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Thanks a lot for the link to the source for the 2026 China stuff. Having read it, it does not change my opinion of the 2026 article. The FIFA vice-president mentioned is clearly talking in a hypothetical; he will probably not even be in FIFA when the decision is made. Accordingly, I have decided not to remove the PROD notice; if you wish to, that is your right and I will take it to AfD instead. With regards to 2022, I am deciding whether or not to keep it; for the moment, I will not PROD it, but if 2026 gets deleted easily I might nominate it. Batmanand | Talk17:20, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I must admit that I have not found the exact correct spelling myself. Three things make me conclude the spelling is probably without the space:
Most official sites mention his name without a space, as for instance letour.fr
Google, which automatically searches for errors in queries, always ends up saying: Did you mean: Christian Vandevelde? when I type Vande Velde. This means that Christian Vandevelde is far more used than Christian Vande Velde on the internet.
Last but not least, Vandevelde comes undoubtedly from Dutch, if he was Dutch or Flemish, the spelling of his name would be Vandevelde or Van De Velde. Both meaning 'From the fields'. Vande Velde is however an unexistent name as Vande is not a word in Dutch and to put the space there is unnatural.
It would be "van de Velde" in Dutch (small caps), I don't see that as an argument that the name is has been Americanized one way or the other. If you quote the name, Google has 60k for "Christian Vande velde" and 100k for "Christian Vandevelde", not exactly decisive. So with regard to the last point, authoritative sources, I'd put his employer at the top of the list of those I have seen. They write his paycheck :-) --Per Abrahamsen13:18, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Good point, but also no certainty there, the one 'writing' the paycheck is most of the times not the webmaster and typing errors in foreign names are easily made. For now, I can only say that also the German and Dutch wiki use Vandevelde, not Vande Velde. I'll keep searching for sources. --Pelotastalk13:40, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Mmm... thanks...
...for the cupcakes! Never feel like you have angered anyone by disagreeing with the rest of the people on an AfD. And even if someone was mad, who cares? It's an AfD, not a life-or-death situation -- no one will die because 2022 FIFA World Cup will get deleted, despite a few people objecting. I was really suprised to find the cupcakes on my user page, but thanks anyway! Keep up the good work, and continue to speak up for what you believe in. Ian MankaTalk to me!17:47, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I've just read a bit of the article which seems nice at first sight though if i would have a comment it would be that the article seems to go to deep in the details. Actually I'm not quite sure this topic deserves a full article. Maybe including it into a broader "Bribery in Belgian football" could be an idea. It's been a long time i wanted to write stuff about "what's wrong in Belgian football" (bribery, the weak FA which takes suspicious and weak decisions, the lack of money and modern infrastructures, etc) but right now i think making an article on bribery in belgian football is a good compromise. I'll try to help you on that in the future if you think it's a good idea. Julien Tuerlinckx22:18, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I was originally just thinking of translating (from the Dutch wikipedia) the final paragraph I haven't done yet and that was it. I have not thought of the 'deepness' of the article or the fact if the topic deserves a full article, but maybe you're right. However, I don't really know a lot about other facets of gambling and bribing in belgian soccer. --Pelotastalk23:41, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No Problem, I'm not sure if it is entirely right though, the translation I made from Dutch back to English is correct, but I'm not sure about the original English to Dutch. "Cool" does not in any way resemble "Tight". --Pelotastalk12:01, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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hi, no I made an error with the nationality by forgetting to change from French to Belgium. And I was looking at the stage winner thinking it was overall. He was a Belgian cyclist. my other cyclist-stubs should be ok. Sorry for the mistake James Janderson20:05, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Pelotas, Welcome, but how come that you are working on the lux Wiki? -- Myriam
Well, I'm not planning on editing much on the lux wiki but I will probably have to add some links to pages in other languages which is why I created an account. Although I know French, German and Dutch, I dont speak the luxembourgish languagemix so probably I will not be creating and major pages soon. --Pelotastalk23:05, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, we have many problems with the vandalism of the America pages and the Peru/Chile pages for some reason. This is why they are protected. But they should only be semi-protected, that is protected to unregistered users, or new users. You should be able to edit it within a day or two. As far as links go, if you see any other wiki, please change the link to Civitates Foederatae Americae, as this is the proper latin name for the US. Anything else?--Ioshus 17:40, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Penalty goal - adding (pen) is standard on most sports websites - the goal is counted as a normal goal, so the icon need not be differnt.
Missed penalty - these are not included in most match summaries.
As for the alternating grey layout - iut is only your opinion that it looks crappy now, but it is not set to white - it is set to transparent. We shouldn't hard-code background colours outisde of the stylesheet. ed g2s • talk 12:19, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
ed g2s • talk12:17, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
True if you are viewing the article on the Wikipedia website using the default skin. If someone else runs a mirror with a different background - or you customise your skin to use a different background, then there is a big difference between white and transparent. ed g2s • talk12:52, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok I can agree that it is just my opinion, but still between white and transparent is not much difference is there? ;) Thanks for the icons, too bad about the missed penalties. :s --Pelotastalk14:37, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Copyrighted images cannot be used deocratively, see WP:FUC. Team logos need only be used on an article about the club. We try to keep Fair Use to a minimum. ed g2s • talk13:38, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, calm down.. I thought you were talking about this edit. The capitalisation of "results" is simply wrong. The hyphen is open to debate but article titles tend not to use them. "(... August 2006)" or "August 2006 ..." are much more common ways of date grouping (see here for examples). ed g2s • talk12:47, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Samogitian Wikipedia
Hello. I'm from Samogitian Wikipedia. My name is Tadas. If you need help say me o other administrators. (Sorry for me english :) )Tadas1215:01, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks for your info. Honestly I do not know for sure if Belgian names always capitalize "Van" or "De". It just appears to me that they are almost always capitalized from the Belgian names I see. I know that it's different from the Dutch, which always use lowercase "van" and "de". As for why I left the comment, this is in response to the previous edits of Stephan Van Der Heyden and Jelle Van Damme. The editors moved the pages from capital to lowercase letters, and left the comments Interjectives should be written without capitals and 'van' in between names needs to be written small, which are certainly incorrect for Belgian names. I guess the editors confused them with Dutch names. As I'm also not 100% correct, I apologize. But it's much more likely that the capitalized "Van" are used in the two names, so I moved them back to its original pages. If there are evidence that the two people use lowercase "van", sure we should move them back. But there aren't, unless we get to see their identity cards, as you suggest. Chanheigeorge00:36, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No need to apologise, at least you care! And indeed it is hard to be sure, one can only hope that the names are correctly spelled in the media and work from there, in this case I can say that I don't really know about Van Der Heyden, but Van Damme is commonly spelled with capital letters as part of Anderlecht and the Red Devils. --Pelotastalk09:03, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi Pelotas,
Please don't take my user page seriously. I don't really care about those things that much, but I find it a lot better to argue about silly things like soccer and the metric systems than war or terrorism or abortion or other things that people get really upset about. If it offends you, I'll take it down. But since you're a Simpsons fan: Can you tell me where I got the title: "These things I believe?" -- Mwalcoff00:08, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Nono, leave it, doesn't offend me I just found it quite harsh/bold overall. I totally agree that all in all these are just silly things. About the simpsons thinghy, it's when Homer has the right answer to a radio show question. Is it not the title of a Rory Calhoun (?) album? --Pelotastalk00:41, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Belgian League Results
Hi Pelotas. I see you're an ardent supporter of Belgian football and have put a fair bit of work on the league here. Just to say that we are using a different template for Serie A results if you want to have a look at it. The 16 team version is being used for Portugese league.
Just to say aswell, that we have it setup on the Serie A page so that if you click on a result in the table you get taken directly to result on the detailed results page. Handy for picking out one result in particular instead of trawling through pages and pages. Niall12318:27, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I've noticed it already, but I believe that the table can be too wide for the people with smaller screens. I would like to see each teamname in the top bar shortened to three letters max. But good work nonetheless, making the results clickable however is a very good idea. I've already copied the idea of a clickable number of goals per team in the standings table. --Pelotastalk21:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm guessing that you're using Firefox. If you look at the table using IE, the names of the clubs along the top are shown as vertical. I've had this discussion already with another person. Here's a screen shot as how it looks on my screen using IE. Screen Shot. Hopefully they'll sort out firefox to fix this. Niall12321:48, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
My own beliefs on Kosovo and Albania really have very little to do with what I am doing. I am stub sorting. Because of the Albanian nationality law, any ethnic Albanian from any country can be a citizen of the Republic of Albania. However, it is clear from his birth that he is a Kosovar Albanian. The Albania-bio-stub is for people from the Republic of Albania, not any ethnic Albanian person.--Thomas.macmillan18:19, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The Albanian bio stub is for Albanian or Albanian Related football, which this clearly is. Since he is an Albanian Citizen, he should be in the "Albanian footballers" catergory too then. --Pelotastalk19:12, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Looks nice, keep going. :) Maybe the date could be set with a green background when a nation captures the title for the first time and red when they last had it? --Pelotastalk14:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the cup cake :) It brought some joy to me at a time when I am feeling a bit down. Sorry I didn't notice you'd left me the cupcake until now! Thanks also for putting it in the right place! Thanks alot, and I hope you had a great birthday. -JacќяМ ¿Qué?14:37, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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I want to help, although I might lack a bit of time in the near future (examination + holiday trip). But I'll try my best :-) Karma-AH (talk) 15:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Age tag for the the fb in, fb si and fb out templates
I'm not sure what you mean by extra tag, but in the bottom of the squad information and players in / out tables there are explanation about the age: end of the season for squad information and signing day for players in / out. So, for example, if you take a look at Arsenal_F.C._season_2007-08#In code, you'll see something like this age={{age|1985|4|18|2007|5|25}}. I hope that's a solution. If you have a better solution, please lets discuss it. Regards. --ClaudioMB (talk) 16:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If we could specify a date for all players just once, that would be great for Squad information table (for player in / out is better use the day of the signing). I don't know how to do it, if you know it, please, could you do it for Arsenal_F.C._season_2007-08#Squad_information. I guess the date should be the date of last match of the season (11 May2008). --ClaudioMB (talk) 14:37, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Minor edit marking
Hi - maybe you don't realise you need to change your preferences ...
Please remember to mark your edits as minor if (and only if) they genuinely are minor edits (see Help:Minor edit). Marking a major change as a minor one is considered poor etiquette. The rule of thumb is that only an edit that consists solely of spelling corrections, formatting changes, or rearranging of text without modifying content should be flagged as a 'minor edit.' Thank you.
Regards --Matildatalk01:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
okidoki... i just have a different idea of minor. I've always used it except when I added at least 5 lines of meaningful text. --Pelotastalk03:20, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
User page help
Dear Pelotas...I see that you have requested help in getting your user page in order and am willing to help you. My suggestions will not be full of a lot of flashy formatting. In my opinion, the less a user page looks like a Wikipedia page, the harder it is to read and navigate. You can go to my user page to see how an infobox can handle most of the routine information which you can expand upon if you so desire in the body of your user page.
To keep this conversation all in one place, you can respond on your talk page here. However, I ask that you put {{Talkback|Pelotas|User page help}} on my talk page to alert me to your response. Either way, I would like to hear back from you.
Oh, that's nice, but Finns already offered to renew my page here. However, that was in April/May 2008 and I haven't heard from him/her since. :s About your ideas, I like having a user page which does not look like a traditional wikipedia article at all, just to show the difference. Your page does look nice though, maybe if I write more about myself I could make it look better too. But I would at first thought choose a user page like this or this. --Pelotastalk17:23, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Pelotas, I am adamantly against such pages. To me they are an eyesore. I prefer going with the K.I.S.S. principle when designing a user page. Many of the flashy user pages have so many redundancies that they become insulting. I know where the links to the user's talk page, contributions, and e-mail are. (Talk page link on top, the latter two in the toolbox.) You are invited to check out this template to help get you started. I wish you the best of luck, but I will not design such pages. Have a nice day! - LA @ 17:57, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I made the change because of the following reasons:
Better access to a certain result, in correspondance to the unwritten "create easy access to every fact" rule
Alphabetical sorting is broad consensus in almost all UEFA season articles for this season, especially in the top leagues
However, it would be okay if the edit would be reverted, provided that there is consensus (either already reached or to be built in the future) on sorting the results by last year's position. Hockey-holic (talk) 15:51, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
ITN
On 30 December, 2008, In the news was updated with a news item that involved the article Van Rompuy I Government, which you created and substantially updated. If you know of another interesting news item involving a recently created or updated article, then please suggest it on the In the news candidates page.
Listen, the thing is that Oleh, I suspect, was not fully aware of citizenship laws of Ukraine and I think that people who let him to obtain a dual-citizenship was under-quilified as they failed to warn him about this issue. In Ukraine recently a newly naturalized Serbian Marco Devic had to give up his previous citizenship in order to play for Ukraine. It's a big issue as one needs to think not twice, but make a final decision whether it is worth to give up one's citizenship for the other country's. Him thinking that he has a dual citizenship would that truly be correct? His dual citizenship does not hold any ground as it is not recognized by his native country. Putting a Ukrainian flag only adds a confusion to that issue. Yes, he is truly a native Ukrainian and his last name can not get any more Ukrainian. However, he is a naturalized Belgian citizen and at his age there is no really a reason for him to change it back. Therefore consider him as Ukrainian somewhat discrimatory as by law he is an accepted Belgian citizen. On personal note, I feel bad that he was not given a single chance to play on the international level as he truly desrves it. And, in my opinion, Ukraine national really needs such players. Pelotas, do not take my message personally as I try to make a point. Yaschuk could easily play for Belgian national, but he is being a stuborn jackass. In his situation that would be the way show his skills. But if he prefers his pricipals over his career or a chance to make a national team then it's his personal issue. Very respectfully, Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 18:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Your Userpage
So yeah, in the interest of clearing up backlog, I've taken up a crusade to remove backlog from the Design Center. Congats- your'e next! The beta is in my sandbox. Just please don't edit it, I'm currentloy working on it and an edit conflict would be an ugly thing ideed. ResMar01:45, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Looks very nice, however I have a rather small screen and the right menu is moved below the left part. Maybe you could make the left menu smaller? (e.g. Just as big as the where I've been/What I am thinghy?) But I like the way it looks! Very nice thanks. --Pelotastalk18:08, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
result-Done Compromised the left "Where I've Been" and "What I Am" to reduce genral width of total left structure. Also added filler effect to background. On a small moniter, the gap between the two columns will shrink to match to width and aspect ration of the computer. ResMar18:27, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see the problem. Internet Explorer automatically floats the Userboxes right. Firefoc dosn't. The problem here is that specifying float sends the Userboxes smack where left column is. ResMar18:41, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Source for goalscorers (Jupiler League 2008-09) needed
Hi Pelotas,
first of all, thanks a lot for your work on Belgian First Division 2008–09, especially with all those goalscorers. However, there is a minor issue existing. Is there a reliable source for the complete list? I'm asking this because there has been some trouble lately over at the Serbian Superliga 2008–09 article. A couple of anon editors were edit warring about details in a list similar to the one on the Belgian article, but with one fundemental difference - there exists no source at all. As a result, the number of goals in the table (307) is not in tune with the number of goals credited for all scorers (304), so I had to issue a warning on the talk page about WP:V and its consequences. All of this would certainly not have happened if there had been a reliable source.
So, in order to prevent those... I don't know how to call them... from arguing "But there is also a unsourced list of scorers on the Belgian article, yet it goes unsanctioned" - could you please add a source to your list? Ideally, it should be something similar to this (German Bundesliga) from either the Belgian association or another reliable source.
Done. Although I'll be honest, I just added the three most used sites by myself when I want to look up any information about the league, instead of veryfying the wikipedia content with those three sites. I do not use them to update the goal scorer list, because if you investigate those closely, then different sites will always give different results. So how do I know it is right? Well, I have a huge excel sheet in which I add each and every goal scorer in each match played. Once you have the list it's no so much work to update it every week, I even have more trouble with keeping the length of the columns the same ;) --Pelotastalk20:45, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Soccer-holic and I are trying to improve league articles in general, especially when talking about colors used in league standings. We are thinking that codes (colors) should be unified and used in the same way in all articles. So take a look at this Soccer-holic's subpage: User:Soccer-holic/League season article, which explains parts which every league articles should consist of, as well as using the colors in the right order and code. Please leave your comments and improvements (if needed) so we can take the final proposal to the community on Wikipedia:WikiProject Football. SonjiCeli (talk) 15:18, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I can see where this unified color scheme would be useful indeed, maybe we should make a standard template which explains the colors, as they did for formula 1 here (It is added as a key for instance here). Also, in the standings by round we should create unified templates there also, as for instance the color scheme for the Spainish league (here) is completely different from the standard one here and the colours should probably be linked to the ones chosen before... --Pelotastalk15:38, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Dates
Hi, I noticed that you have been linking some dates at 2009 Belgian Cup Final recently. This practice of linking dates for the purpose of autoformatting is now deprecated. Please see WP:LINKING and WP:MOSNUM. Furthermore, there is an temporary Arbcom injunction on mass linking/delinking of chronological elements. I'm happy to respond to any inquiries you may have about the matter. Thank you for your attention. Ohconfucius (talk) 05:13, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As a current or past contributor to season articles within Wikipedia:WikiProject Football, I thought I'd let you know about the season article task force, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of season articles of all kind. If you would like to participate, join by visiting the task force page. Thanks!
Got it, don't have the time right now though. Also never heard of her before :) But maybe I will do it towards the end of this week if I find some time. Pelotastalk14:18, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Have not looked at it again, but I'm quite sure it was wrong or at least incomplete. It is mentioned clearly that the results of the last team are not counted in this ranking. I'm guessing you did add them, or forgot to add the results against a another team. If however I did make a mistake, then sorry. Pelotastalk18:57, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Re: 2009-10 Belgian Division
Sorry, my bad. I simply overlooked the update date. On the other hand, consider a restriction of the section (as it is the WikiProject standard) to the best ten scorers plus, if there aren't too many, those who have the same amount of goals as the 10th-best scorer. The Wikipedia policy behind this is WP:NOT#STATS. --Soccer-holicI hear voices in my head...08:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. I've noticed that you are creating new articles about living persons but are not including references. While I appreciate your efforts to improve Wikipedia's coverage of football, articles need to have references so the information can be verified and to establish the notability of the subject of the article. I expect that you are using some type of reference (such as www.vi.nl, www.playerhistory or guardian.touch-line.com) to create the article, so please just add it. You can check how I did it on the Denis Odoi article, or feel free to ask me questions if you need help. Best regards. Jogurney (talk) 13:25, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Former World Cup matches
Hello. My name is Edson Ortolan (from Brazil). Another day I suggested to add in some place (new article or new entry in another page) the former matches between the teams of the Fifa World Cup 10. I listed all plays until Group D. The reference is the Wikipedia.
I don't know how the Wikipedia works to these contribuitions. I didn't know about signature, address and other things. Example: must I let my email in the message ? Thanks in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.0.123.234 (talk) 15:17, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Edson, I'm not quite sure what you are asking, but in theory you could just ask what you want on each page. If it's correct meaningful information, somewhat structured and in theory following the wikipedia guidelines, then you cannot do anything wrong. If you do, someone will correct it anyway. In this case, you could for instance add the info on pages 2010 FIFA World Cup Group A through 2010 FIFA World Cup Group H, as a section at the top, or for each match individually within the article. Anyone can edit wikipedia, that's the basic idea! :) So you do not need do put your address or email anywhere. If you create a (free) account however, then you avoid problems with blocked pages (Sometimes this happens because many unregistered users try to ruin pages). Now whether you create an account or not, when posting on talk pages, you should sign your comment by putting ~~~~, this automatically changes into your ip address (or nickname) and adds the time of posting. If you have more questions, feel free to ask! Pelotastalk16:08, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. I understand. I was curious for search the results between the teams of the 2010 World Cup, because Brazil played against Portugal in 1966 World Cup (Portugal 3 X 1 Brazil) in Round 1 and I rememberd that Portugal beat Korea DPR (5 X 3) in Quarters. So I found all results of the other plays and I wrote one list with them. My question is: is there the possibility to put it in any place (new article, new topic)?
Do you want to see the list ? Thanks.201.0.123.234 (talk) 17:39, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I send the list, but here it will be confused because the format. Look at: Group A: South Africa X Mexico: first match;
Uruguay X France: England/66: Uruguay 2 X 1 France - round 1; Korea Rep-Japan/02: Uruguay 0 x 0 France - round 1;
South Africa X Uruguay: first match;
France X Mexico: Uruguay/30: France 4 X 1 Mexico - round 1; Switzerland/54: France 3 x 2 Mexico - round 1; England/66: France 1 x 1 Mexico - round 1; Mexico X Uruguay: England/66: Mexico 0 x 0 Uruguay - round 1; France X South Africa: France/98: France 3 X 0 South Africa - round 1 --- Group B: Argentina X Nigeria: United States/94: Argentina 2 X 1 Nigeria - round 1; Korea Rep-Japan/02: Argentina 1 X 0 Nigeria - round 1; Korea Rep X Greece: first match;
Argentina X Korea Rep: Mexico/86: Argentina 3 X 1 Korea Rep - round 1; Greece X Nigeria: United States/94: Greece 0 X 2 Nigeria - round 1; Greece X Argentina: United States/94: Greece 0 X 4 Argentina - round 1; Nigeria X Korea Rep: first match --- Group C: England X United States: Brazil/50: England 0 X 1 United States - round 1; Algeria X Slovenia: first match; England X Algeria: first match; Slovenia X United States: first match; United States X Algeria: first match; Slovenia X England: first match; Obs.:
1) Slovenia separated from Yugoslavia.--- Group D: Germany X Australia: Germany/74: West Germany 3 X 0 Australia - round 1; Serbia X Ghana: first match; Germany X Serbia: Switzerland/54: West Germany 2 X 0 Yugoslavia - Quartes; Sweden/58: West Germany 1 X 0 Yugoslavia - Quartes; Chile/62: West Germany 0 X 1 Yugoslavia - Quartes; Germany/74: West Germany 2 X 0 Yugoslavia - round 2; Italy/90: West Germany 4 X 1 Yugoslavia - round 1; France/98: Germany 2 X 2 Yugoslavia - round 1; Ghana X Australia: first match; Australia X Serbia: first match; Ghana X Germany: first match; Obs.: 1) I included the matches of the West Germany (1954-1990) 2) I included the matches of the Yugoslavia (1930-1999) and Serbia and Montenegro (2006).--- Group E: Netherlands X Denmark: first match; Japan X Cameroon: first match; Netherlands X Japan: first match; Cameroon X Denmark: first match; Denmark X Japan: first match; Cameroon X Netherlands: first match --- Group F: Italy X Paraguay: Brazil/50: Italy 2 X 0 Paraguay - round 1;
New Zealand X Slovakia: first match; Italy X New Zealand: first match; Slovakia X Paraguay: first match; Paraguay X New Zealand: first match; Slovakia X Italy: Italy/34: Czechoslovakia 1 X 2 Italy - Final. Obs.: Slovakia was part of Czechoslovakia.--- Group G:
Brazil X Korea DPR: first match; Cote d'Ivory X Portugal: first match; Brazil X Cote d'Ivory: first match; Portugal X Korea DPR:
England/66: Portugal 5 X 3 Korea DPR - Quartes; Korea DPR X Cote d'Ivory: first match; Portugal X Brazil: England/66: Portugal 3 X 1 Brazil - round 1 --- Group H: Spain X Switzerland: England/66: Spain 2 X 1 Switzerland - round 1; United States/94: Spain 3 X 0 Switzerland - round 2; Honduras X Chile : first match; Spain X Honduras: Spain/82: Spain 1 X 1 Honduras - round 1; Chile X Switzerland: Chile/62: Chile 3 X 1 Switzerland - round 1; Switzerland X Honduras: first match; Chile X Spain: Brazil/50: Chile 0 X 2 Spain - round 1. 201.0.123.234 (talk) 19:13, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Pelotas, I will edit the 2010 FIFA World Group A, but I don't know to put the links because my informatical knowledge is poor. Look at my work. Other argument to remember the importance of the former matches: we are in the 19th FIFA World Cup and we build a tradition and history of the plays and emotions. Thanks.201.82.254.144 (talk) 22:03, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Pelotas. Your text of the Group A is very good !!! If I wrote very well in English (I read and understand very well) and if I had the know-how, I would expand the texts.201.82.254.144 (talk) 23:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Happy New Year, Pelotas. Why was the comentaries and ancient results deleted ? It was a good information to inform the football lovers. I'm sad.200.153.228.55 (talk) 22:02, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Probably too much side information without sticking to the core of the article. You can ask on the discussion page and maybe it can be put back on. I'm thinking that it will only get 'more' though as there are more and more world cups. So maybe it's not the most ideal place. Maybe you could create a new article, somthing like: "frequent fifa world cup matchups" or so... Pelotastalk23:34, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know to make it with the rulers of the Wilipedia (links, flags, fonts etc.). And I didn't find the fourth play between FRA vs. MEX and the third play between ITA vs. CZE. Your texts was cool and can I translate to Portuguese and put in my article? I want to hear your opinion. Thanks, again.201.92.15.84 (talk) 18:13, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Ivm uitgeleende spelers van het voorbije seizoen, mag ik die toevoegen of moet ik wachten tot 1 juli want ik weet niet precies wanneer die uitleencontracten aflopen.
Voor aflopende contracten lijkt het mij logisch dat ze bij End of 2010-11 season komen. Voor nieuwe loan deals normaal op de afgesloten datum, is de datum onduidelijk, dan kan het msschn best ook bij End of 2010-11 season. Zie bvb Gertjan De Mets, loan einde staat bij "end of season", terwijl hij ook op 14 maart staat wegens dan nieuw contact getekend. Dit is hoe ik het oorspronkelijk heb opgesteld, maar als je een beter en overzichtelijker idee hebt, stel gerust voor he... Pelotastalk14:51, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Sources for "Bruges Derby" results in 2nd division?
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I've noticed you added the results of the derbies played in 2nd Division on the French page. I've searched several days long for that but couldn't find them anywhere. Please, could you tell me where you took them from? :D
Haha I also searched for days :) I asked for it on the supporters forum of Cercle Brugge. You need to register first, then you can see it at http://cerclebruggeforum.be/index.php?showtopic=745232. I also tried to find it on http://www.bsdb.be/, where it's not in the database, however I asked the owner and he promised to look it up for me. He says he should be able to get the data so I expect it to come in this week. If it's the same as the other one then I guess the sources are valid although I'm already pretty sure they are. --Pelotastalk|contribs11:08, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Since you will understand my Flemish English: by this I give the pipe to Maarten! :) I think there is few I can still adapt or add in the main article from the Belgian national football team. Maybe I will be able to upload a couple of pictures I would really want to upload for this page (depends on copyright), but we will see that later. I have never been uploading, maybe I will ask for help.
True, I could adapt the history (can be extended a lot) or work on some of the "loose ends" you proposed. For me it is fine to put some energy in listing up the matches every now and then, so we could make appointments about who would enlist which period. But the upcoming days, I will leave the Red Devils page like it is (or pages related to it) - I satisfied my edit hunger and hopefully also the curiosity of people who want to know something more about the reviving Belgian squad!
As you see I am able to write something, but I wouldn't know how to comment on those results (as you proposed). Simply indicating if it went well or wrong with the Belgian team, and memorable matches to indicate? Purely results discussion seems a bit boring to me, but often in football it is all you can do if you have no background.
I am not worrying (yet) about matches that count or not. There is no discussion that international friendlies, qualifiers and tournament matches always count, but what with matches against teams that are not countries or not official countries, play-off matches, matches from de jaren stillekes with very few info, ... ?
In upcoming weeks I will make sure to make myself a user page like you did, and we can see how we proceed.
Hey! Yeah, I added Šabala to List of Belgian football transfers winter 2013–14, because he was transferred to Club Brugge officially on 29 January. This was confirmed by Skonto FC director and the player himself that day and a day later also by Club Brugge. Although, it was stated that Šabala would be loaned to his former club Skonto till July 1, 2014. I think that the correct way would be to add him to the Belgian winter transfers in the IN section of Club Brugge and then in the OUT section that he is currently on loan to Skonto FC. I similarly did in List of Latvian football transfers winter 2013-14.
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Why not start from Frédéric Gounongbe and have a RM for going to Frédéric Gounongbé eh? Almost all sources are stating Frédéric Gounongbe... Common sense? Pelotastalk|contribs16:03, 21 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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I'll have to find time but it will be hard to do anything properly on short notice, my work is preventing me from both editing and travelling a lot lately ;) But I don't mind to have a look at some pages later on (October, November, ...). And where should I go in Romania? :) From Belgium there's only cheap flights to Bacău. :) Pelotastalk|contribs07:50, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Belgium NFT
Hello Pelotas, I would like to get back to following comments of yours more than two years ago now. It was good that you gave me a push and ideas; I simply wanted to mention where we stand now.
Great job on the article so far! :)
I already thanked for that, but never totally ceased working at the main article and side articles. For the main page, at the moment a GA review is ongoing. May I introduce you to Sygmoral? He is a specialist in layouts and wikipedia coding. Also the insights given by the current GA reviewer, MarshalN20 (a triple FA editor) have been very welcome to move the article forward. All help is still welcome, I invite you to take a look for suggestions.
But just to inform you, I have some more ideas and there are still a lot of stuff to do regarding the team:
Have you had any response yet? I find this also a bit of a burden, besides, the RBFA does recognise matches that were not official according to FIFA in last years...
Finally, an easier one, we also need a template such as Template:England national football team to link al these pages together and maybe sort out all the categories too.
Good that you started it - I kept it updated, have a look.
I sure do! Belgium NFT and it related articles are a never finished matter, from which strangely enough it feels like we did already most of the work! :) You too, have fun in the articles you are busy with. Kareldorado (talk) 09:29, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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@Qed237: I mistakenly thought that was the official code since there is no "u" in Romania, not when written in English nor Romanian. However since you asked I went looking around and on Comparison of IOC, FIFA, and ISO 3166 country codes I can also see that ROU is the official one... I don't see any reason to use the French name abbeviation but hey what am I going to do about it. I also always change "NLD" to "NED" and "DEU" to "GER" but those seem ok in IOC/FIFA context. Slovenia seems questionable too, I use "SLO" but "SVN" is FIFA style... oh well. Pelotastalk|contribs22:04, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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There was nothing wrong with it, on the contrary, thanks! Don't understand why you go through all the effort to do the reformatting, but adding a reference is too much of a bother... ;) --Pelotastalk|contribs21:49, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Oh ok, someone put it on my userpage in the same manner and I thought it was funny :) But ok, I'll refrain from doing this in the future, the world just got a little bit more dull again :s --Pelotastalk|contribs21:58, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Eurovision 2017 results
Pelotas, only show total points in the final table. The columns for jury and televote are not used in that section, see 2016 article. Those details are done differently. Wes WolfTalk22:57, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ah OK. I only noticed your recent edit, hence me coming here first. I'll figure out who added the 2 new columns, and let them know that WikiProject Eurovision doesn't use that layout style (a consensus was reached on that decision). The split results are shown in a separate collapsible table alongside the scoreboard. Wes WolfTalk23:03, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hockey WC
Hey, saw your edits to the EuroHockey article. If any of those 3 teams win, shouldn't the Q spot go the next best placed team of the World League Semifinal? Kante4 (talk) 13:51, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ik zie dat jij de updates doet van de zomertransfers in de Belgische competitie. Geweldig werk! Ik maak vaak gebruik van deze pagina.
Ze is jammer genoeg al een hele tijd niet ge-updatet (vandaag wel de transfers van OHL erbij gekomen).
Keep up the good work!! Is vast niet evident om telkens een speler bij te voegen, ik kan het alvast niet, respect!
Klopt ik was met vakantie en ben er daardoor niet meer toe gekomen. Ik plan het wel te doen de komende dagen, eind Augustus zijn het er steeds een hele hoop dus kan een paar dagen duren. Anyway thanks voor de support! Leuk dat er nog mensen dit volgen :) Grtz --Pelotastalk|contribs17:57, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Geektime alert for me... Looking through each individual race report on the UCI website, and see what the collation brings up. I am starting to think that potentially, that the option of the ProConti teams and number of riders is potentially not necessary - especially when there does seem to be a lack of available sources in regards to it. I do remember seeing it once, but the link does not to be there any longer. Tis but a shame, though... Craig(talk)20:38, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Lierse will merge with Oosterzonen not with Lyra. So the name change of the latter is not yet 100% certain.
I know they are stating that the name will change, but it is not 100% certain until the paperwork is finished so I think you are being a bit too hasty?
I have kept the name for the moment, as you mentioned it, however I think it is still too fast since the official documents have not yet been taken care of (even if Lyra itself mentions it on their website). I'll edit the page a bit more but it might be possible you have to revert the changed name.
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Zoals ik al vreesde: je moet de naam aanpassen naar K Lyra-Lierse Berlaar.
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How was he NOT in the squad for Latvia and Slovenia when he even PLAYED against Latvia. Are you comprehending that this is the squad for the BOTH matches, not for Slovenia only!? Otherwise correct the "squad called up for the qualifying games against Latvia and Slovenia" part and just say that's the squad for Slovenia.
And the difference between him and Trichkovski and Spirovski is that they weren't in the squad at either match. Is it so hard to comprehend?
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I don't think assistant roles are notable, especially as he was only there for short periods. You have also addhed to the OH Leuven manager category which is not accurate, he was only an asisstant. GiantSnowman11:07, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello, I noticed you contribute to quite a few Belgian football articles, and was wondering if you could help with some confusion I've had regarding the Belgian First Division A format. For play-offs II, what is the format of this season? The article currently says 7th to 16th will be split into 4 groups of 4, with the 4 group winners advancing to the semi-finals. However, I noticed here it is mentioned that play-offs II will be split into 2 groups of 6, with the 2 group winners advancing to a playoff to determine who will compete against the play-off I team. Do you know which is correct? Also, is it correct that the Europa League third qualifying round spot goes to the winner of the regular season by default (unless they qualify for the Champions League or EL group stage as cup winners)? Thanks, S.A. Julio (talk) 23:39, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for adding the playoffs! :) Just one question, imho it's more clear to use "Championship Playoffs" and "Europa League Playoffs" rather than "I" and "II". In any case if you insist on I and II then the relegation playoffs in division 1B should be changed to III as well. Pelotastalk|contribs15:08, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, I don't mind it being changed back, I just had seen the numbering used frequently. Also "Europa League play-offs" seemed a bit confusing since there are two parts, the playoff tournament of 16 teams, and then the actual decisive match against a play-off I team for a Europa League spot. S.A. Julio (talk) 15:44, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi Pelotas. I have reverted your change to the number of recoveries in Belgium ([2]). The official source reports 5,146 ([3], [4]). If you took the figure of 5,164 from Worldometer ([5]) note that it is probably a typo. It has happened before. Best, --MarioGom (talk) 10:48, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Not aware no... where is the managerial section reused in the season articles exactly? (or where is the issue precisely?) Without the "onlyinclude" it breaks the overall Belgian season article :s Pelotastalk|contribs19:07, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed not supposed to be there... not sure how to resolve both problems really. Removal of the onlyinclude only causes a blank space at the overall Belgian season article, seems less severe of an issue while we look for a solution... Pelotastalk|contribs08:47, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, I do apologize for using plain text insertions. I found it is the best way like : trigger an alarm bell. This in order to provoke a good correction... from a really English spoken contributor. Take note that new trends in Belgian football is to "buy" a club and then move it on a new location. Federation puts new rule: no more than 30 km between the two concerned stadiums ! Be care also that Belgian Federation authorises some clubs to apply older registred number (exemple OH Louvain and the number 18 former "Stade Louvain" - only one year in higher division). It is very better to maintain differents pages. Friendly. Shanon11 Shanon11 (talk) 13:04, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the info Shanon11. So, as I see it, R.A.E.C. Mons (1910) is the old, former, now defunct club from Mons, with matricule 44. R.A.E.C. Mons (2015) is the new, current, active club with matricule 4194 (which will try to buy back the matricule 44 from 2026). Definitely these are distinct clubs and the structure should remain, not merging them. Your example of OH Leuven is totally the same. Oud-Heverlee Leuven indeed took over again matricule 18 (instead of 6142 of F.C. Zwarte Duivels Oud-Heverlee), but it is still not the same as Stade Leuven (the former matricule 18). Not sure where the 30km comes in because Mons, Genvy & Quevy all close to each other, within 30km at least. Pelotastalk|contribs11:05, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi. The point is that this championship is no more national or styled as such. And its organization is now divided between two different authorities. For the rest, I’ll agree with all the solutions.--Footy Tea (talk) 13:47, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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