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January 2025

The succession boxes at the bottom of pages never have refs, which needlessly clutter a navigational tool. You may disagree whether "oldest living governor" should be included, but the need for a specific citation is obviated by WP:CALC (from the birth and death dates of governors which are appropriately cited on their respective pages), which is why this statistic has been present on many pages for years. The warning on my page was unnecessary, and not appreciated; refrain from such behavior in the future, please. Davey2116 (talk) 20:16, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Noted. I apologise, Davey2116. An admin recently asked me to notify users I've reverted, hence the warning. I should have accurately described the content as original research, meaning it's a synthesis of published material that implies a conclusion not clearly stated by the sources. Also, the topic of the oldest living president has been previously discussed, and consensus was to remove it from these articles. Such information is better suited for specialised wikis like Gerontology Wiki. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 19:43, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Margaret Thatcher post-nominal letters

I'm still for removing the note containing Thatcher's post-nominal titles [1] While you're correct that they're in a note, I would argue that it's still a holdover from when they were used in leads, just a special case due to the quantity of titles. In addition, they are all present in the infobox already, so an additional note that the reader has to click or scroll for is redundant and not consistently used across other articles. Miklogfeather (talk) 07:30, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Miklogfeather, I see your point, but I would bring this matter to Talk:Margaret Thatcher to facilitate a local consensus. The inclusion of post-nominals in the lead is long-standing, going back over two decades. Thanks, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 20:35, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]