User talk:Surtsicna

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Nomination for merging of Template:Infobox peerage title

Template:Infobox peerage title has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox family. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you.

Your GA nomination of Amalric of Nesle

The article Amalric of Nesle you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Amalric of Nesle and Talk:Amalric of Nesle/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Cplakidas -- Cplakidas (talk) 18:42, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Jill, Duchess of Hamilton

On 30 December 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jill, Duchess of Hamilton, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Jill, Duchess of Hamilton, donated her body to science because "funerals are a bore"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jill, Duchess of Hamilton. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Jill, Duchess of Hamilton), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:04, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Amalric of Nesle

The article Amalric of Nesle you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Amalric of Nesle for comments about the article, and Talk:Amalric of Nesle/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Cplakidas -- Cplakidas (talk) 13:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Abu Sulayman Da'ud

On 1 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Abu Sulayman Da'ud, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Arab Christian physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud served both Latin Christian and Arab Muslim rulers? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Abu Sulayman Da'ud. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Abu Sulayman Da'ud), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

– 🌻 Hilst (talk | contribs) 12:02, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Amalric, King of Jerusalem

Hi, you removed the source for Baldwin & Setton 1969, causing multiple ref errors. Are you going to replace the references? It's hard to tell what you're trying to do when you never use edit summaries. If you weren't such a long-standing editor I'd just revert your change as test/incompetence/vandalism. DuncanHill (talk) 10:33, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That is a bit harsh. You must have noticed that I am in the middle of a major expansion of the article. The source was duplicated and I just removed the wrong copy. --Surtsicna (talk) 10:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I long ago gave up trying to guess what editors who refuse to use edit summaries may or may not be doing. So will you be fixing the errors you've introduced? You've added another since I posted here. DuncanHill (talk) 10:59, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DuncanHill, I am trying to cite Baldwin's contribution to the book published jointly by Baldwin and Setton. You are welcome to help out. --Surtsicna (talk) 11:13, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

OK, well to start with sfn refs won't work if you get the forename and surname the wrong way round. I fixed that here. Then, when you removed the "Baldwin & Setton 1969" source you should have changed all the sfns in the text that called it, like this. Lots of editors who use sfn refs make similar errors, it's a horrible system that's almost as obnoxious for the editor as it is for the reader. Using edit summaries helps other editors see what you are trying to do, and that helps them fix mistakes when they do occur. You'll have noticed in my edit summaries I point to User:Trappist the monk/HarvErrors.js which is a useful tool for spotting this kind of error. DuncanHill (talk) 11:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, the forename/surname switcheroo. Thank you. I will be sure to note any future difficulties in the edit summaries. --Surtsicna (talk) 11:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you're looking for a challenge

Hervey de Montmorency.

I tried to make it a little more legible? --Kansas Bear 17:08, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am struggling to find info about this guy in modern reference works. --Surtsicna (talk) 18:01, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I wondered about that. --Kansas Bear 18:08, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Crouch The Beaumont Twins does not mention such a person, and the Complete Peerage for Pembroke says that Isabel/Elizabeth (sister of the Beaumont twins) wife of Gilbert de Clare, earl Pembroke, was still alive and a widow in 1172. Ealdgyth (talk) 18:28, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It does not help that there are apparently numerous, very different spellings of the name. Surtsicna (talk) 20:39, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Miles of Plancy

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Miles of Plancy you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Borsoka -- Borsoka (talk) 06:06, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Melisende, Queen of Jerusalem

On 7 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Melisende, Queen of Jerusalem, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Queen Melisende (pictured) was so incensed by the rumours of her alleged infidelity that neither her husband nor his friends felt safe in her presence? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Melisende, Queen of Jerusalem. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Melisende, Queen of Jerusalem), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

		Hook update
		Your hook reached 15,506 views (1,292.1 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of January 2025 – nice work!

GalliumBot (talk • contribs) (he/it) 03:27, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Hodierna of Jerusalem

The article Hodierna of Jerusalem you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Hodierna of Jerusalem for comments about the article, and Talk:Hodierna of Jerusalem/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Borsoka -- Borsoka (talk) 04:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For the four sisters, Melisende, Alice, Hodierna, and Ioveta. Borsoka (talk) 04:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

❤️❤️❤️❤️ Surtsicna (talk) 09:27, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Ernesius

Hello! Your submission of Ernesius at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 02:21, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply; just pinging again. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 14:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Limia

On 9 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Limia, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a hypothesized land bridge may have allowed some fish species (example pictured) to migrate from South America to Cuba? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Limia. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Limia), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for GAARlandia

On 9 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article GAARlandia, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a hypothesized land bridge may have allowed some fish species (example pictured) to migrate from South America to Cuba? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Limia. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, GAARlandia), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

		Hook update
		Your hook reached 15,449 views (1,287.4 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of January 2025 – nice work!

GalliumBot (talk • contribs) (he/it) 03:28, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Miles of Plancy

The article Miles of Plancy you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Miles of Plancy for comments about the article, and Talk:Miles of Plancy/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Borsoka -- Borsoka (talk) 15:25, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Reactions to the 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses

Hi Surtsicna, I notcied you rejected the DYK nomination for Reactions to the 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses, as the article was a split from a parent and therefore considered not new. Having reviewed WP:DYKNEW prior to nomination, it's clear it comes under the criteria of "an article is considered new if, within the last seven days, the article has been created in mainspace from a redlink or redirect", is this context technically from a redirect. Could you point me in the direct of the guidelines where it states that the article must be based on new content, as opposed to simply being a new article, as you describe in the DYK review? Thanks. CNC (talk) 12:06, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, CNC. Please see WP:DYKAIM, which lists "to showcase new and improved content" as the first of the aims of the project. This precedes WP:DYKNEW, and explains what is meant by "new" article in WP:DYKNEW. The article does not feature enough new content to qualify and may never do so, but it may yet qualify as improved if it undergoes a successful GA nomination first. Surtsicna (talk) 15:41, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I get it now, thanks for explaining. I should have read that part too in hindsight, apologies. CNC (talk) 15:44, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Walter III Brisebarre

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Walter III Brisebarre you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Borsoka -- Borsoka (talk) 05:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Alice of Antioch

On 20 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alice of Antioch, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a bishop complained to the pope that Princess Alice of Antioch refused to share her raiding spoils with him? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alice of Antioch. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Alice of Antioch), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings and...

Hi Surtsicna! Just to let you know that I have just restored the image you deleted from Adelaide of Aquitaine, and have added a caption that sources it. You can find my rationale, of sorts, and such as it is, on the corresponding talk page. Regards, Technopat (talk) 01:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for William (bishop of Acre)

On 21 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article William (bishop of Acre), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that William, a medieval bishop of Acre, "met a strange and undeserved fate" at the hands of a mentally ill young priest? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/William (bishop of Acre). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, William (bishop of Acre)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:03, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

		Hook update
		Your hook reached 10,114 views (842.8 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of January 2025 – nice work!

GalliumBot (talk • contribs) (he/it) 03:29, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Council of Tripoli

Hello! Your submission of Council of Tripoli at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! ~Darth Stabro^Talk • Contribs 02:43, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to discussion

@Surtsicna You are invited to join the discussion on the "Personal interests" section at Talk: William, Prince of Wales. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 09:58, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Hospital of St. John (Jerusalem)

Hello! Your submission of Hospital of St. John (Jerusalem) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Muhandes (talk) 23:20, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Bertrand of Toulouse (son of Alfonso Jordan)

On 25 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bertrand of Toulouse (son of Alfonso Jordan), which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that the capture of the crusader Bertrand of Toulouse by Muslims was blamed by an anonymous monk on the "treachery" of Queen Melisende and Countess Hodierna? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bertrand of Toulouse (son of Alfonso Jordan). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Bertrand of Toulouse (son of Alfonso Jordan)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

1=Launchballer 12:03, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Walter III Brisebarre

The article Walter III Brisebarre you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Walter III Brisebarre for comments about the article, and Talk:Walter III Brisebarre/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Borsoka -- Borsoka (talk) 16:45, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Brachyrhaphis roseni

On 27 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Brachyrhaphis roseni, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Brachyrhaphis roseni (examples pictured) and B. rhabdophora are difficult to breed because they voraciously eat their own young? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Brachyrhaphis roseni. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Brachyrhaphis roseni), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Brachyrhaphis rhabdophora

On 27 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Brachyrhaphis rhabdophora, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Brachyrhaphis roseni (examples pictured) and B. rhabdophora are difficult to breed because they voraciously eat their own young? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Brachyrhaphis roseni. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Brachyrhaphis rhabdophora), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Popes

Howdy. Someone (or many) have been undoing or changing the edits you made to the intros/infoboxes of popes - I've since restored some of them. Also, they've been splitting 'Pope' in the succession boxes, into 'Sovereign of the Catholic Church' under church titles & 'Pope' under regnal title (I've undone those), which was creating duplicates. GoodDay (talk) 16:19, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. Thanks for keeping an eye out. Surtsicna (talk) 16:22, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Tyrannasorus rex

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Tyrannasorus rex you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Jens Lallensack -- Jens Lallensack (talk) 00:22, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Tyrannasorus rex

The article Tyrannasorus rex you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Tyrannasorus rex and Talk:Tyrannasorus rex/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Jens Lallensack -- Jens Lallensack (talk) 01:02, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Talk: Donald Trump lead sentence discussion

Hi Surtsicna,

I hope this message finds you well. I wanted to reach out about a consensus debate currently happening on Donald Trump’s page, as it mirrors a similar situation we encountered during Joe Biden’s presidency. Four years ago, we agreed on a consensus to keep the lead sentence format, which I believe was both fair and sensible. Specifically, the line for Joe Biden was: "...who has been the 46th and current president of the United States since 2021." Looking back, I see that you were in favor of maintaining this as the status quo. Talk:Joe Biden/Archive 15#RfC: Should we say he is "current" president in the lead, or not?

I believe we should apply this same structure to Donald Trump’s page, just as we did for Joe Biden and Barack Obama before him, to ensure consistency and clarity. This format clearly conveys the order ("47th"), incumbency ("current"), and start date ("since 2025"), which helps maintain uniformity across presidential biographies.

Given your involvement and knowledge of that earlier consensus, your insights would be incredibly valuable in the current discussion. It’s important that we uphold the same standards regardless of the officeholder, and I’d appreciate it if you could weigh in, share your thoughts, and cast a vote. Here is the current discussion and vote underway: Talk:Donald Trump, Superseding consensus #50, sentences 1 and 2

Thanks a lot, and I hope you’ll consider contributing. TimeToFixThis (talk) 11:32, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Diocese of Banias

On 30 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Diocese of Banias, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Adam and John were the only Latin bishops of Banias who lived in Banias? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Diocese of Banias. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Diocese of Banias), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:03, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Adam of Acre

On 30 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Adam of Acre, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Adam and John were the only Latin bishops of Banias who lived in Banias? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Diocese of Banias. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Adam of Acre), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:03, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for John (bishop of Banyas)

On 30 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article John (bishop of Banyas), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Adam and John were the only Latin bishops of Banias who lived in Banias? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Diocese of Banias. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, John (bishop of Banyas)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:03, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Tyrannasorus rex

The article Tyrannasorus rex you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Tyrannasorus rex for comments about the article, and Talk:Tyrannasorus rex/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Jens Lallensack -- Jens Lallensack (talk) 01:41, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for County of Champagne

On 31 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article County of Champagne, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that King Philip refused to give up Champagne? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/County of Champagne. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, County of Champagne), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Great hook! Viriditas (talk) 00:29, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, thank you, @Viriditas. When I find myself lacking a hook that would be interesting to an average reader, I resort to word play. This one is tame compared to bicolor molly, the dwarf molly, and the mangrove molly 😳 Surtsicna (talk) 01:02, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, thanks. Now I will have to study up on your hooks. Viriditas (talk) 21:27, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ernesius

On 2 February 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ernesius, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ernesius. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ernesius), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

charlotte ^👸♥ 00:23, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]