You just stay around to keep the tools, you just stay around to keep the tools! You think that we're all fools, you just stay around to keep the tools! Making minute edits every year, you make minute edits every year! We can see it's very clear, you make minute edits every year! Users such as yourself who make a significantly low amount of edits just to keep your administrative tools sicken me and many others. Just give up the tools already!!! What are you holding on to them for anyways!! What a selfish thing to do!!
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The Special Barnstar
For literally being a special editor and a source of inspiration to me for four solid years and counting. Celestina007 (talk) 19:55, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-24T19:55:00.000Z","author":"Celestina007","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Celestina007-2021-05-24T19:55:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!","replies":[]}}-->
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The Teamwork Barnstar
I would like to thank you and User:Levivich for you help on Fielding L. Wright back in 2020. Sorry for taking so long to give you a barnstar. Jon698 (talk) 17:29, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-30T17:29:00.000Z","author":"Jon698","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jon698-2021-05-30T17:29:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2","replies":["c-Serial_Number_54129-2021-06-01T18:43:00.000Z-Jon698-2021-05-30T17:29:00.000Z"]}}-->
Cheers Jon698; it was Levivich who did all the "heavy lifting", actually helping you—I just did a slow burn in the corner. Mind you, did I send you a bunch of books? Anyway, the article's looking dead good. Good work! ——Serial18:43, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-06-01T18:43:00.000Z","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-2021-06-01T18:43:00.000Z-Jon698-2021-05-30T17:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Hey, cool. But I basically just wrote the original article; many moons ago I realised that any article put forward for ITN would be taken over, not so much by gatekeepers, but by trivialistas and this hasn't proved me wrong. Still, collectivism is the name of the day! :) SN5412906:05, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-01-13T06:05:00.000Z","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-2022-01-13T06:05:00.000Z-Cwmhiraeth-2022-01-13T00:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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The Epic Barnstar
I'm giving you this barnstar in recognition of your impressive expansion of Concordat of Worms. I'm glad to see someone share my interest in this very deserving topic. Thank you! Modussiccandi (talk) 21:53, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-02-01T21:53:00.000Z","author":"Modussiccandi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Modussiccandi-2022-02-01T21:53:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_3","replies":[]}}-->
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By the authority vested in me by myself it gives me great pleasure to present you with this barnstar in recognition of your tireless efforts to ensure that Battle of Poitiers is adequately referenced. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:28, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-03-05T17:28:00.000Z","author":"Gog the Mild","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gog_the_Mild-2022-03-05T17:28:00.000Z-In_appreciation","replies":[]}}-->
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On 9 May 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Dennis Waterman, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Ktin (talk) 16:51, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-05-09T16:51:00.000Z","author":"Ktin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ktin-2022-05-09T16:51:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Dennis_Waterman","replies":[]}}-->
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On behalf of the FAR coordinators, thank you, Serial Number 54129! Your work on Óengus I has allowed the article to retain its featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. I hereby award you this Featured Article Save Award, or FASA. You may display this FA star upon your userpage. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 18:47, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-06-04T18:47:00.000Z","author":"Nikkimaria","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nikkimaria-2022-06-04T18:47:00.000Z-Featured_Article_Save_Award","replies":[]}}-->
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Just wanted to give an admiring thumbs-up for your subheads for Index, A History of the. Bravo! Flaggingwill (talk) 16:41, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230519164100","author":"Flaggingwill","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Flaggingwill-20230519164100-Subhead_format,_outstanding_use_of","replies":[]}}-->
Because we care. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:24, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230605162400","author":"Gog the Mild","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gog_the_Mild-20230605162400-In_appreciation_2","replies":[]}}-->
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omg congrats!!! Lourdes10:09, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230703100900","author":"Lourdes","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lourdes-20230703100900-FACBot-20230703000500","replies":["c-Serial_Number_54129-20230703183000-Lourdes-20230703100900"]}}-->
In this case, I think 'omg' must stand for 'oh my gog' :) SN5412918:30, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230703183000","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20230703183000-Lourdes-20230703100900","replies":[]}}-->
much Elinruby (talk) 11:42, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230924114200","author":"Elinruby","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Elinruby-20230924114200-thanks","replies":[]}}-->
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Hi, long time no talk. I think you are being waited for here for a sign off. Hope all is well, no news here except that Damo Suzuki died yesterday so I am sad. Here is a tune in return [1]. Ceoil (talk) 04:11, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240211041100","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ceoil-20240211041100-Sex_Pistols_FAR","replies":["c-Serial_Number_54129-20240211111500-Ceoil-20240211041100"]}}-->
Thanks Ceoil I must've let that drop away. Yes, shame about Damo. Hope he had enough Vitamin C! Good tune that... Bring on the CAN-style drum solos. :) ——Serial11:15, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240211111500","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20240211111500-Ceoil-20240211041100","replies":["c-Ceoil-20240211111900-Serial_Number_54129-20240211111500"]}}-->
Surprised to read that he spent a few weeks in Ireland before absconding to Cologne. <raises a pint of Guinness to me could have been mucker. RIP>. Ceoil (talk) 11:19, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240211111900","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ceoil-20240211111900-Serial_Number_54129-20240211111500","replies":["c-Serial_Number_54129-20240211113000-Ceoil-20240211111900"]}}-->
Just played Yard Act three times on the trot. Fckn hell they're a rattling bunch! Great find. ——Serial11:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240211113000","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20240211113000-Ceoil-20240211111900","replies":["c-Ceoil-20240211113500-Serial_Number_54129-20240211113000"]}}-->
Yeah same here, they are amazing, that bass sound...and the vocal trawl...wow. This is a top ten of all time favourite [2]. Ceoil (talk) 11:35, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240211113500","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Ceoil-20240211113500-Serial_Number_54129-20240211113000","replies":[]}}-->
Absolutely terrific stuff. Well done! DBaK (talk) 08:17, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240401081700","author":"DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240401081700-Brothelyngham","replies":[],"displayName":"DBaK"}}-->
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From what have heard the sound is way better than on the original ep. [3]PreviewCeoil (talk) 20:05, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240428200500","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ceoil-20240428200500-Slates,_Slags_and_Tapes,_live","replies":["c-Serial_Number_54129-20240429151100-Ceoil-20240428200500"]}}-->
Thanks for the red alert Ceoil, I guess I'm hardwired to pre-order that :) There are some good boots from that era, I wonder if they've polished one up fo this? I mean, Grant Showbiz used to do it for his own personal pension fund! ——Serial Number 5412915:11, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240429151100","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20240429151100-Ceoil-20240428200500","replies":["c-Ceoil-20240503220200-Serial_Number_54129-20240429151100"]}}-->
From the previews, I would have selected different boots. Was disappointing at the choices for "Leave the Capitol" and "Middle Mass"; would have gone for the 2nd night in Reykjavik 1981 recordings myself,[4] but guess he (ie Steve Hanley) had to think about fidelity as it is mostly a vinyl release. [shrug]. At least its good to see the band finally making money from re-releases, considering all the awful contracts Mark signed them up to in the 90s when he was short on cash. Ceoil (talk) 22:02, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240503220200","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ceoil-20240503220200-Serial_Number_54129-20240429151100","replies":["c-Ceoil-20240503230200-Ceoil-20240503220200"]}}-->
ps, Fall type bass heavy tunes are going through a revival in last three years....skip to 4:17 here for the best of the bunch. What an incredible drummer. Ceoil (talk) 23:02, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240503230200","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Ceoil-20240503230200-Ceoil-20240503220200","replies":[]}}-->
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Your username is absolutely incredible. Full marks from me. Template:LunaEatsTunaSig (talk), posted at 15:20, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240531152000","author":"LunaEatsTuna","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LunaEatsTuna-20240531152000-A_cookie_for_you!","replies":["c-Serial_Number_54129-20240531171300-LunaEatsTuna-20240531152000"],"displayName":"Template:LunaEatsTunaSig"}}-->
Thanks LunaEatsTuna, but it involved absolutely no imagination on my part. Why do you have 'Template' in your sig. ——Serial Number 5412917:13, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240531171300","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20240531171300-LunaEatsTuna-20240531152000","replies":["c-LunaEatsTuna-20240531171700-Serial_Number_54129-20240531171300"]}}-->
After several valid complaints, I have since changed it. ❧ LunaEatsTuna (talk), we do what we must because we can – posted at 17:17, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240531171700","author":"LunaEatsTuna","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-LunaEatsTuna-20240531171700-Serial_Number_54129-20240531171300","replies":["c-Serial_Number_54129-20240531172900-LunaEatsTuna-20240531171700"],"displayName":"\u2767 LunaEatsTuna"}}-->
Well, OK, but it seems a lot of fuss about nothing. Who gets into a long dance over templates. More power on your tax evasion, btw. ——Serial Number 5412917:29, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240531172900","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20240531172900-LunaEatsTuna-20240531171700","replies":[]}}-->
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Congrats - great work! Hchc2009 (talk) 17:13, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240714171300","author":"Hchc2009","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hchc2009-20240714171300-FACBot-20240606000600","replies":["c-Serial_Number_54129-20240714174700-Hchc2009-20240714171300"]}}-->
Thanks Hchc2009 for the kind words—and also nice to see you pop back in every now and again. Your medieval presence is much missed; I learned much from you when merely a noob, and there weren't many medievalists around. To be honest, there might be even less now. Fancy writing up Thomas' final battle together? :) ——Serial Number 5412917:47, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240714174700","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20240714174700-Hchc2009-20240714171300","replies":[]}}-->
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Hi there SN. I don't know if we've had the pleasure, but I've been aware of your prolific work for some time. Do you think the White Ship page ought to be named something like "White Ship disaster"? It has always struck me as odd that the title is merely the ship. Particularly strange since we have the Victims of the White Ship disaster article. Aza24 (talk)01:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240902011200","author":"Aza24","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aza24-20240902011200-Page_name_query","replies":["c-Serial_Number_54129-20240906151600-Aza24-20240902011200","c-Serial_Number_54129-20240906151600-Aza24-20240902011200-1"]}}-->
Aza24, hi, I've seen you around FAC, I think? Thanks for the note, and I must apologise for my tardiness in replying. I'm afraid I have a memory like a sieve nowadays :) I think you're prright, actually. To me, an article on a ship should be about the ship as a whole to which any disaster (say) is just a portion. I guess Titanic and Sinking of the Titanic is a similar example, if a far larger/more notable one. But for a medieval ship, there's only so much we can ever know about its order, construction, launch, victualing, crewing, ownership, voyages, etc., and where, like the White ship, the most notable event by far is its sinking, that's what the article focuses on, and of course, the article title should reflect the article itself. Per the principle of least astonishment, if the article is called the White Ship, then the reader will expect an article about the ship; likewise, if an article is called White Ship disaster, then they will know that when they click the link, they will find an article about the sinking rather than the boat itself. And as you say, that's already accepted logic in the Victims of article—that the disaster is effectively the primary topic.SerialNumber5412915:16, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240906151600","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20240906151600-Aza24-20240902011200","replies":[]}}-->PS, if you happen to be around FAC these days, I've got something there at the moment, although if it bores you to tears, that's pretty understandable :) thanks for looking in again! SerialNumber5412915:16, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240906151600","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20240906151600-Aza24-20240902011200-1","replies":["c-Aza24-20240907191400-Serial_Number_54129-20240906151600"]}}-->
Thank you for the thoughtful response! I've started a discussion, incorporating some of your feedback, at Talk:White Ship#Requested move 7 September 2024 – Aza24 (talk)19:14, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240907191400","author":"Aza24","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Aza24-20240907191400-Serial_Number_54129-20240906151600","replies":[]}}-->
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Thank you for your comments in the FAC, - I replied now, - interesting aspect! - Today's story has 3 composers, I couldn't decide for the one on the Main page or the one who didn't make it on his bicentenary, so took both, and the pic has a third. Listen if you have a bit of time. The music, played by the Kyiv Symphony Orchestra in Germany in April 2022, impressed me. - To celebrate the day, I listened to Bruckner's Eighth on radio, conducted by Dennis Russell Davies. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:57, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240904205700","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20240904205700-September_music","replies":[]}}-->
Recommended reading today: Frye Fire, by sadly missed Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:33, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240906213300","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20240906213300-September_music","replies":[]}}-->
Happy because my story today is about a Czech mezzo soprano who is mentioned on the Main page on her birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:44, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240909134400","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20240909134400-September_music","replies":[]}}-->
Three stories related to today in memory, 11 September, 20 July and 20 June, the latter piece of art also pictured on the Main page. --
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Today is Schoenberg's 150th birthday! On display, portrayed by Egon Schiele, with music from Moses und Aron, and with two DYK hooks, one from 2010 and another from 2014; the latter, about his 40th birthday, appeared on his 140th birthday, which made me happy then and now again. - See places for a stunning sunrise, on the day Bruckner's 200th birthday was celebrated (just a few days late). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:32, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240913133200","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20240913133200-September_music","replies":[]}}-->
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Just thought it would be easier to discuss this on your talk than through edit summaries. If you think the close should be updated/corrected/whatever you should probably ask WereSpielChequers if that's what they would prefer. Primefac (talk) 14:10, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240906141000","author":"Primefac","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Primefac-20240906141000-Hey,_look!_A_talk_page!","replies":["c-Serial_Number_54129-20240906145100-Primefac-20240906141000"]}}-->
Very funny Primefac. Of course, you're absolutely right. And I no way meant to suggest trolling or anything like that. Merely a gentle... digging out, perhaps. Of the kind that Fram's probably used to by now. And probably doesn't care about. Because if he did, he wouldn't be where he is today. I guess I just don't like being thought of as stupid. I remember WSC from the London meetups, funnily enough, where—and I hope this isn't OUTING!—I seem to recall him regularly getting stuck into the famed Wetherspoon's mixed grill :) I hope he's still enjoying them! SerialNumber5412914:51, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240906145100","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20240906145100-Primefac-20240906141000","replies":["c-WereSpielChequers-20240906162200-Serial_Number_54129-20240906145100"]}}-->
I'm still a regular at the London meetup, but can't remember when I last ordered the mixed grill. When Mrs WSC discovered that the low cholesterol level I was such a martyr to was from a 1989 test she made me get it measured again. These days we have good and bad cholesterol and its the just the good cholesterol that I have a low level of. Spoons being known for their beer rather than their food I have a number of choices on their menu that I'm unlikely to try again, so nowadays it is the Mandalorian curry if I'm feeling virtuous or the steak and kidney pudding if I'm feeling that I've been healthy in my last month's dining. As for the close, it was near unanimous, and I thought I was paying respect to that as opposed to simply saying successful. ϢereSpielChequers16:22, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240906162200","author":"WereSpielChequers","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-WereSpielChequers-20240906162200-Serial_Number_54129-20240906145100","replies":["c-Serial_Number_54129-20240906165300-WereSpielChequers-20240906162200"],"displayName":"\u03e2ere"}}-->
Poor ole Spicy, not getting the regal treatment even with his self-nom'd higher-by-eleven !votes result ;) The Mandalorian curry sounds like something out of the Star Wars franchise (from the cantina, perhaps!), but you can't beat a proper pudding all day long. That's pretty much off, and continues to be off, the menu for me, too. Back on topic, though, WereSpielChequers, I now see that Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Recent uses a Greater-than sign; that's new, isn't it? Anything to do with this edit? (@Primefac too.) SerialNumber5412916:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240906165300","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20240906165300-WereSpielChequers-20240906162200","replies":["c-Primefac-20240906165700-Serial_Number_54129-20240906165300","c-WereSpielChequers-20240906184600-Serial_Number_54129-20240906165300"]}}-->
Huh, that seems a bit silly, quibbling over 99 and 99.X% Surprised I never noticed it before. Primefac (talk) 16:57, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240906165700","author":"Primefac","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Primefac-20240906165700-Serial_Number_54129-20240906165300","replies":[]}}-->
Yes, that means I've been inconsistent. Hopefully I will be consistent for the future, unless of course anyone objects to the change. No comment re the template. ϢereSpielChequers18:46, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240906184600","author":"WereSpielChequers","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-WereSpielChequers-20240906184600-Serial_Number_54129-20240906165300","replies":["c-Serial_Number_54129-20240911133900-WereSpielChequers-20240906184600"],"displayName":"\u03e2ere"}}-->
@WereSpielChequers: Well, I'm sure interested parties will be observing keenly for future consistency. I recommend gelatin. Cheers! SerialNumber5412913:39, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240911133900","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20240911133900-WereSpielChequers-20240906184600","replies":[]}}-->
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Your this closing of a move request on Samastha Kerala Jem-iyyathul Ulama appears to have done without considering sources whereas you apparently considered the opinion of a single disruptive editor on the subject having a conflict of interest on it. It might be worth talking a look at this discussion also. So what remedy need to be made? Neutralhappy (talk) 14:25, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240908142500","author":"Neutralhappy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Neutralhappy-20240908142500-Closing_of_a_move_request","replies":["c-Serial_Number_54129-20240911113400-Neutralhappy-20240908142500"]}}-->
Well, interesting... @Spworld2: are you a disruptive user? Please desist if so. Or is this a broader misunderstanding between two pretty experienced editors, underpinned by differing operating philosophies? SerialNumber5412911:34, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240911113400","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20240911113400-Neutralhappy-20240908142500","replies":[]}}-->
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Came across Index, A History of the today. I was extremely charmed by the section headers, and further delighted to see that it was your work. Thanks for keeping Wikipedia weird ;) ♠PMC♠ (talk)23:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240912232000","author":"Premeditated Chaos","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Premeditated_Chaos-20240912232000-A_barnstar_for_you!_4","replies":["c-Serial_Number_54129-20240916171100-Premeditated_Chaos-20240912232000"],"displayName":"PMC"}}-->
Hi Premeditated Chaos thanks for the message! (First time, apparently!) Yes, it was good fun doing; and a dead good read too, if bizarre minuscule is a favoured genre (not that it even is a genre, but). I'd like to have taken it further—I've collected a shed load of respectable reviews, etc in the years since, but I suspect that'll be the point when it gets stripped of anything fun :) if you know what I mean. It's a shame though, cos the book deserves to be promoted in anti-G11/NOTPROMO way. I hope you're well! I had a look for the Paper article you were after, but they don't even seem to have an archive of their own? Let alone anywhere else. Did you have any joy? SerialNumber5412917:11, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240916171100","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20240916171100-Premeditated_Chaos-20240912232000","replies":["c-Premeditated_Chaos-20240918231200-Serial_Number_54129-20240916171100"]}}-->
I'm well, hope you are also :) Shame about the Paper article, but it's so common with mid-90s magazines. It's really awful to think of how much cultural output has been lost for lack of digital archiving.
I do like unusual reading, so I've popped Index on my library list. Can't say you're promoting it if it's all paid for by the king's money, right? I know how you feel wrt that level of "professionalising" kind of stripping the fun out, but I can't imagine it not at least being GA-able without losing the good stuff. (And, you know...I do do GA reviews, should you ever decide to pull the trigger on it.) Cheers! ♠PMC♠ (talk)23:12, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240918231200","author":"Premeditated Chaos","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Premeditated_Chaos-20240918231200-Serial_Number_54129-20240916171100","replies":[],"displayName":"PMC"}}-->
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Regarding this edit: I think you meant to say ~150 logged admin actions? isaacl (talk) 23:19, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241003231900","author":"Isaacl","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Isaacl-20241003231900-Count_of_admin_actions","replies":["c-Serial_Number_54129-20241003232800-Isaacl-20241003231900"]}}-->
Thanks, Isaacl, yes,now adjusted. Cheers! SerialNumber5412923:28, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241003232800","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20241003232800-Isaacl-20241003231900","replies":[]}}-->
You've got your way - I won't take part in the GA process or any discussions about the GA process - so why are you twisting the knife? If you don't have the power to ban me from the GA process like you claim, THEN HOW ON EARTH have you the right to demand that I am not allowed to post on my own user page, or to demand that I "get back to work". What "work" am I allowed to do? Who gets to decide it? Are you trying to drive me off the project - if so you are doing a good job of it. I don't want to continue this discussion, so please don't.Nigel Ish (talk) 14:42, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241005144200","author":"Nigel Ish","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nigel_Ish-20241005144200-GA","replies":[]}}-->
Although thinking about it, continuing a discussion on someone's talk page is an odd way of 'not wanting to continue' a discussion that Nigel Ish started in by now *checks notes* two other venues, and has now also taken to Users:Kyteto's and Thebiguglyalien's talk pages, ywo completely inoffensive editors who have somehow earned Nigel Ish's ire. Or perhaps not enough people were paying him attention. SerialNumber5412918:10, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241005181000","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20241005181000-GA","replies":[]}}-->
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Hey, I've just noticed that when you edited the lead photo for Shooting of Stephen Waldorf you uploaded it to Commons but it's a fair use image. Could you re-upload it locally? Just copy and paste this onto the description page (dug up from the deleted file that was used before):
==Summary==
{{Non-free use rationale 2
|Description = Side-by-side composite photograph of David Martin (left) and Stephen Waldorf (right), taken c. 1983. Waldorf was shot by police officers who mistook him for Martin.
|Source = '''Original publication''': media photo, presumably published in print in 1983<br/>
'''Immediate source''': http://westhampsteadlife.com/2016/09/07/they-shot-the-wrong-man/17751
|Date = c. 1983
|Author = Unknown
|Article = Shooting of Stephen Waldorf
|Purpose = for visual identification of the person in question, at the top of their biographical article
|Replaceability = Of the two subjects, neither was a public figure or likely to have been freely photographed prior to the incident for which they are notable. One has been deceased since 1984 and the other is not a public figure or somebody who is likely to be widely photographed. Additionally, the appearance of both subjects in 1983 is important for side-by-side comparison and any free image that may exist or could be created could not represent what these people looked like at the time of the incident for which they are notable.
|Minimality = The image will be used in one article only and will be the only image of these individuals used in that article. The full view of both subjects' faces is necessary for side-by-side comparison, which is the purpose of its use.
|Commercial = The incident took place in 1983 so the image has been publicly available for 40 years at the time of upload. Commercial opportunities are likely to be limited for an image of two people only notable for their involvement in a single incident such a long time ago.
|Other information = The subject of the photograph has been deceased since: 1984
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==Licensing==
{{Non-free biog-pic|Shooting of Stephen Waldorf}}
Then we can arrange deletion of the Commons file and we won't get caught out on TFA day! Thanks, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts?14:47, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241007144700","author":"HJ Mitchell","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-HJ_Mitchell-20241007144700-Waldorf","replies":[],"displayName":"HJ\u00a0Mitchell"}}-->