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So have you gotten a hold of anyone at Pyzam yet? --Mactographer (talk) 07:13, 15 December 2007 (UTC) Image source problem with Image:Saban cropped.jpg![]() Thanks for uploading Image:Saban cropped.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, their copyright should also be acknowledged. As well as adding the source, please add a proper copyright licensing tag if the file doesn't have one already. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Non-free content, use a tag such as {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use. If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Wikipedia:Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 09:54, 9 December 2007 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Superm401 - Talk 09:54, 9 December 2007 (UTC) Your recent editsHi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button Moving down campaign logosI think you are wrong on this one. The campaign logo symbolizes the campaign. The photo, in Hillary Clinton's case, is her official Senator photo. The campaign logo deserves to be in the infobox, just like corporations have their logo in their infoboxes. Wasted Time R (talk) 22:42, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Style notesYou just wrote "Huckabee is currently competing with former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani for 1st in national ..."
Source of Huckabee and stray dogHere is a source for the stray dog comment. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,268762,00.html and also here http://www.utopiarescue.com/oldsite/stop_animal_torture.htm This isn't relevant because it is about the son and not the father. However the father's reaction is relevant. Jmegill (talk) 20:36, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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WikiProject College football August 2008 NewsletterThe August 2008 issue of the College football WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Hey Rtr10, there is no policy, but there does seem to be some sort of informal standard in place. I had a look around at a lot of other college templates and all used the standard font, hence why I made the change. Somno (talk) 12:58, 12 August 2008 (UTC) WikiProject College football September 2008 NewsletterThe September 2008 issue of the College football WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Image source problem with Image:JoeBiden08.gif![]() Thanks for uploading Image:JoeBiden08.gif. 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(not) Personal attacksRtr10, today at WP:AN/I I requested action by administrators regarding what I felt were your personal insults towards myself and others, in violation of WP:NPA. The consensus among the people (actually all of them) at the section where I posted the inquiry was that you are not conducting personal attacks. Please feel free to continue calling people things like "most ignorant", "anal" and "holier than thou". This is perfectly in line with policy. The thread in question for your review, if you'd like to see, is Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Continued_stream_of_personal_attacks. I've marked the thread as resolved. Sorry to trouble you, and thanks for your time. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:31, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
2009 CFB Kickoff gameI can tell you right now that quite a few Hokies are looking forward to next year's college football game against the Crimson Tide in the Georgia Dome. It should be a really fascinating game, regardless of the outcome. Incidentally, I've put up 2006 Gator Bowl for FAC, and am looking for comments, criticism and support. Anything you'd care to add would be a big help. Thanks! JKBrooks85 (talk) 08:18, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Please read the above policy. Since you are canvassing people to vote in the RFC on logos, and are doing so completely misleadingly, I suggest you revert yourself on all those pages (or I will do it for you). "As I am sure you know our current standard/system of using logos legitimately with fair use rationales do not violate any wikipedia policy." is a false (or at the very best miseleading) statement. As such, you are making the RfC completely meaningless because of the canvassed votes. Black Kite 15:47, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
heated disputeHammersoft, Wiggy!, and Rtr10, I'm leaving this on all three talk pages, and hoping it does more good than harm. Hammersoft and I have been discussing civility a little, and I wanted to chime in. This probably applies to everyone involved in the logo fair use discussion, but I'm just leaving it on your talk pages because you three are directly involved with what Hamersoft and I have been discussing. Please, all three of you, consider altering your approach to talking to/about each other in the college logo discussion, and your interpretations of civility. You have very different opinions on what is best for Wikipedia, but I assure you, they are just that: opinions on what is best for Wikipedia. None of the three of you is here to damage Wikipedia, and it's beneath all of you to say so. Denigrating and vilifying someone you disagree with, particularly questioning their motives for being here, creates a toxic environment for the rest of us. "Warning" someone who you feel has denigrated or vilified you, rather than talking politely human to human, also creates a toxic environment, and is unlikely to have the effect you desire. Please consider rebooting your interactions with each other, and approaching this as you would dealing with other adults in your office or somewhere else in real life; it's too easy to be rude on the internet, in a way you would never consider doing to a coworker. You're welcome to criticize each other's opinions on what should or should not be done. You're welcome to state your opinion that other people's approach is damaging to the encyclopedia. To do so is not incivil, but is part of the give and take of discussions that you feel strongly about, and you have to have a thick skin if you're going to participate in heated discussions. But please, all three of you, resolve to respect the motives of everyone involved, bend over backwards to avoid being insulting, and bend over backwards to avoid taking the bait if you think someone else has insulted you. I'm becoming seriously disenchanted with "civility warnings", templated comments, talk of blocking, indeed talk of "civility policy" at all. "Don't be a dick" pretty much covers everything. I'm just hoping that a plea for everyone involved to treat everyone else involved as an adult that you happen to disagree with is enough to smooth things over. I'm not online a lot, but I do have all three talk pages watched now, so if you reply, feel free to do it here, or on my talk page, and I'll reply when I get a chance. --barneca (talk) 17:21, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
New straw pollYou are a user who responded to RFC: Use of logos on sports team pages. As someone interested in the discussion a new straw poll has been laid out to see where we currently stand with regards to building a consensus. For the sake of clarity, please indicate your support or opposition (or neutrality) to each section, but leave discussion to the end of each section. — BQZip01 — talk 23:17, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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WikiProject College football January 2009 NewsletterThe January 2009 issue of the College football WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. your reversal in the Mark Gottfried articleI marked the article as unreferenced, because it is--Rolltide.com is NOT a third-party publication on the topic of Gottfried. Note what WP:RS has to say: "Wikipedia articles[1] should use reliable, third-party, published sources." Rolltide.com is simply not third-party, since it's run by the Athletics department. Why not browse through the Tuscaloosa News, which has run articles on Gottfried plenty of times? Drmies (talk) 16:18, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Final versionAs a contributor to the discussion regarding sports team logos, I am soliciting feedback as to the latest version of that guideline. Your support/opposition/feedback would be appreciated. — BQZip01 — talk 21:21, 2 February 2009 (UTC) WikiProject College football February 2009 NewsletterThe February 2009 issue of the College football WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Formal Mediation for Sports LogosAs a contributor to Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content/RFC_on_use_of_sports_team_logos/Archive_1, I have included you in a request for formal mediation regarding the subject at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Use of Sports Logos. With your input and agreement to work through mediation, I hope we can achieve a lasting solution. — BQZip01 — talk 06:33, 31 May 2009 (UTC) Orphaned non-free media (File:Nadar 08.PNG)
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Ole MissNext time, instead of being a jerk, realize you don't know everything. As has now been proven, I was right. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.75.195 (talk) 23:18, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
What's wrong with your analogy is that I knew first hand what time the game was. I didn't guess, use a percentage or go to Madame Crystal Ball Reader. I had inside information. Just because it wasn't published anywhere doesn't make it less factual. It was on paper, just not made "public". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.75.195 (talk) 18:10, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
BarnstarRtr10, thanks for the recognition! Jweiss11 (talk) 13:02, 27 October 2009 (UTC) Re: Iron BowlYou should seriously stop getting so worked up over a wikipedia article. I am in no way trying to act as an authority on the names of each game. I am acting based on consensus that we appeared to have made through this edit. I agreed with his suggestion and deleted the made up titles, and included a guide for titles in hidden text. Nobody has made any objections to that guide in the year since I added it. My reasoning for reverting your edit on "the kick" is that 1.) it was listed as "Van Tiffin's kick" for years before you made the change several years ago, thus I think consensus was implied that it was fine the way it was, and 2.) the other titles in the section are easily attributed to a specific Iron Bowl game. Mentioning "the run in the mud" or "Punt Bama Punt" automatically makes you think of the 1967 and 1972 Iron Bowls, because they could not possibly be a reference to anything else. Google the terms, and the first links you get refer to the respective Iron Bowls. Google "the kick" and you get nothing referring to the Iron Bowl. As for "the drive," coaches referring to a drive in a particular game as "the drive" in postgame comments after said game in no way suggests that the game will forever be known by that term. How else would you expect them to refer to it? I'm sure that Mike Shula referred to "the kick" that beat Tennessee in 2005 in his post game comments that day, but that in no way suggested that the game would be forever known by that term, and indeed it has not been. You have not provided any source in which someone has stated that this Iron Bowl will be known by that term. Thus, we cannot assume per wikipedia's crystal ball policy that the game will be known by that term 24 years from now, so there is no comparison, yet, with "the kick." Your suggestion that I've shown any sort of ownership of the article is patently absurd. I am editing the article in the spirit of what the previous concensus has been. If you object to that, take up your issues on the article's talk page, not my talk page. Please stop assuming bad faith, and please stop taking wikipedia so personally. It's understood that if you contribute to wikipedia, your contributions might be edited by other users. That is not rudeness on their part, it is an overreaction on your part. CH52584 (talk) 01:13, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College footballI think you'll want to check out this discussion: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football#Articles for each year's roster of a specific team? Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 20:10, 8 January 2010 (UTC) Iron BowlBy that standard [1], couple other names should be removed as well, for example "The Drive", as there's no RS for that either. Volunteer Marek (talk) 00:36, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
<-- Except this was THE biggest comeback in Iron Bowl history. And in Auburn's history. [4], [5], [6], so yes, this one is a special "comeback" among other comebacks. Again, if you insist on proper sourcing, then other games' nicknames have to be sourced as well. Also, just a word of advice, you shouldn't refer to other people's edits as "vandalism" [7] no matter how wrong you think they are unless they are very clearly vandalism (stuff like "So and so is gay" or "Mike likes Jane" or something). This advice is meant in honest good faith - sooner or later, someone will take issue with that and might try to get you blocked or sanctioned (I've been on Wikipedia for awhile and I've seen it happen numerous times). If you're going to revert stuff like that just say "unsourced" or "unsupported" etc. Volunteer Marek (talk) 03:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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