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User talk:PawyileeHelp with translation[1] Editor Soman on 30 July 2006 asked for help, and, such as it is, here it is. เรื่องที่ 1Account 1 รายนามกษัตริย์และเจ้าเมืองเชียงใหม่ (ยกเว้นช่วงที่พม่าปกครอง) List of names of nobles and kings of Chiang Mai (elevated during Burmese rule) ดังนี้ Thus: (พระญา = minor king equivalent to a European duke or reigning prince; may be rendered King or Lord, but Prince or Duke not customarily used.) ๑. พระญามังราย (พ.ศ.๑๘๐๔-๑๘๕๔) 1. Lord Mangrai [Meatly] (B.E. 1804-1854) ๒. พระญาไชยสงคราม(พ.ศ.๑๘๕๔-๑๘๖๘) 2. Lord Chaisongkhram [Victorious in War] (B.E. 1854-1868) ๓. พระญาแสนภู (พ.ศ.๑๘๖๘-๑๘๗๗) 3. Lord Saanphuu [100,000 Hills] (B.E. 1868-1877) ๔. พระญาคำฟู (พ.ศ.๑๘๗๗-๑๘๗๙) 4. Lord Khamfuu [Hiss] (B.E. 1877-1879) ๕. พระญาผายู (พ.ศ.๑๘๗๙-๑๘๙๘) 5. Lord Phayuu [Crag] (B.E. 1877-1894) ๖. พระญากือนา (พ.ศ.๑๘๙๘-๑๙๒๘) 6. Lord Geu-nah (B.E. 1898-1924) ๗. พระญาแสนเมืองมา (พ.ศ.๑๙๒๘-๑๙๔๔) 7. Lord Saanmeungmah [100,000 Lands Come](B.E. 1924-1944) ๘. พระญาสามฝั่งแกน (พ.ศ.๑๙๔๕-๑๙๘๔) 8. Lord Sahmfangkaan [three-bank Axis] (B.E. 1945-1988) ๙. พระญาติโลกราช (พ.ศ.๑๙๘๔-๒๐๓๐) 9. Lord Tilokarat [Protest Great World] (B.E. 1988-2030) ๑๐. พระญายอดเชียงราย (พ.ศ.๒๐๓๐-๒๐๓๘) 10. Lord Yowd Chiang Rai [Pinnacle of Chiang Rai](B.E. 2030-2038) ๑๑. พระญาเมืองแก้ว (พ.ศ.๒๐๓๘-๒๐๖๘) 11. Lord Meuang Kaaw [Crystal Land] (B.E. 2038-2069) ๑๒. พระญาเมืองเกษเกล้า 12. Lord Meuang Gasetgelah [Crowned Land] ครั้งที่ ๑ (พ.ศ.๒๐๖๘-๒๐๘๑) 1st Time (B.E. 2068-2081) ครั้งที่ ๒ (พ.ศ.๒๐๘๖-๒๐๘๘) 2nd Time (B.E. 2086-2088) ๑๓. ท้าวซายคำ (พ.ศ.๒๐๘๑-๒๐๘๖) 13. [ท้าว = ] King Chaiyakham [Victorious Word](B.E. 2081-2086) ๑๔. พระนางจิรประภา (พ.ศ.๒๐๘๘-๒๐๘๙) 14. Her Royal Highness Jiraprapha (Lasting Light)(B.E. 2088-2089) ๑๕. พระไชยเชษฐา (พ.ศ.๒๐๘๙-๒๐๙๐) 15. Pra Chaisedtha [Name or title = Elder Victor] (B.E. 2089-2090) ๑๖. ท้าวแม่กุ (พระเมกุฎิ) (พ.ศ.๒๐๙๔-๒๑๐๗) 16. Queen-Mother Gu (Lady Megut) (B.E. 2094-2107) ๑๗. พระนางวิสุทธเทวี (พ.ศ.๒๑๐๗-๒๑๒๑) 17. Queen Wisutthewee (B.E. 2107-2121)
RocketsBig Daddy, Like what you've added to the Thai Rocket Festival article. - Thaimoss 22:07, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
[[Image:BoonBungFai-Rockets-084.JPG|right|thumb|Rocket on ascent.]]
Yasothon Rocket Festival Museum entrance http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Bangfai_M.JPG Murals to left & right of entrance depicting Phaya Tan Park Rocket Shoot http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Bangfai1.JPG King Toad leading war with Phaya Tan http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Bangfai4.JPG
Images added==The Myth==
[ [ Image:Bangfai1.JPG|right|thumb ] ]
[ [ Image:Bangfai4.JPG|left|thumb ] ]
When the Lord Buddha was in his Bodhisatta incarnation
as King of the [[Toad]]s Phaya Kang Kok ({{lang-th|พญาคางคก}}),
etc. etc.
Just put any caption you want on the images to the right of the word "thumb", like this (need to put a'|' in there between "thumb" and the caption: [ [ Image:Bangfai1.JPG|right|thumb|caption here ] ] [ [ Image:Bangfai4.JPG|left|thumb|other caption here ] ] Thaimoss 02:35, 19 February 2007 (UTC) Rockets - 20 FebBig Daddy, I think the Rocket Festival article has been very very much improved by the mythology-related informations and photos you've included recently. Great work, and Thanks. - Thaimoss 00:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Image:Rocket_Festival_Cameraman_Salutes.jpg Image:Rocket_Festival_Cameraman_Shoots.jpg Image:Rocket_Festival_Dirty_Turtle.jpg Image:Rocket_Festival_Working_Couple.jpg Image:Rocket_Festival_Schoolgirl Skirt.jpg Pha Dang and Nang AiIn addition to the myth of Phaya Tan and King Toad, Yasothon also has the legend of Pha-Dang (Red Cliff), and Nang Ai (Mistress or Mrs. NOT Miss Vapor-trail), but I have only contrasting oral accounts of his-vs.-her story. Nevertheless, as Nang Ai is more-or-less Queen of the festival andPha-Dang her escort, I've also uploaded these: Image:Rocket_Festival_Nang_Ai.jpg Image:Rocket Festival Pha-Dang.jpg I posted a summary already to Nong Han Lake, but don't know what to do with the translations, which I have in Word.doc format. Pawyilee 14:35, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
It's a love story of two guys and a girl, Phadaeng on one side, Phangkhi on the other, and Nang Ai Kham in the middle. I began the quest in an attempt to translate her name, only to find I'm married to her! Thai has an expression for soul-mates who have been true lovers down through several re-births. Lao has Nang Ai Kham and Phangki. They have been mated down through many incarnations but, no, they are not lovers. He is a hot-head who wants what he wants when he wants it, with no consideration for others, especially his wife. His name cannot be translated, but, because Lao stories depend a lot on puns involving subtle shifts in tone and vowel length, implies one who habitually destroys everything he touches; even though he is a skilled worker when he wants to be. Her name cannot be translated, either, but implies a genuine Lao miss. She attends to her husband's everyday needs, but she will not yield one inch in an argument. When he climbs a tree and eats his fill of fruit without even so much as tossing her one, she is fed up and prays that in their next lives, he be stuck on a branch (not to be reborn, or have any children) and she be mated to someone else. He is reborn as the son of the King of the Nagas, mythical serpents which represent both rivers and snakes. (Rivers in spate drive snakes above ground.) [The wash north of our house has flooded twice recently, and both banded kraits and black spitting cobras sought refuge with us. My Nang Ai doesn't want to yield an inch to either flood or snake, so has hired men to dam them out. The legend bodes ill for the project.] As for Phadaeng, he is from "somewhere else". His name means Red Cliff and he's from a country with an overhanging cliff, but the legend does not specify just where. All he knows is that she is the most beautiful Lao miss in the world, and all he has to do to win her hand is win a rocket festival tournament; but he can't get it up. The only ones who can get it up are her uncles, so the contest is called off. Complications with Phangkhi ensue that would never fit in a 20-word summary, especially as they involve double and triple entendre of a very racy sort, especially after Nang Ai has a hunter kill him on the branch of a tree where he stopped to eat more fruit. Nagas of every sort arise in revenge and Phadaeng tries to flee to his own country with her, but she is lost and he pines away. He becomes a ghost leading an army of ghosts bent on revenge against the nagas, until almost everywhere is flooded, and Lake Nong Han is the result. Nobody wins and the morale of the tale is that bygones cannot be bygones, for ill-considered deeds done in the remote past will have ill-conceived outcomes down through the future. Wish me luck. Pawyilee 09:50, 23 August 2007 (UTC) Nang Ai and Phangkhi have been fated by their Karma (TH:กรรม kam) to have been reborn throughout many past existences as a couple ordained (TH: คู่สร้าง Khusang); Lao-Isan says such a couple has a sai naen nam kiaw (TH:สายแนนนำเกี่ยว), a tie that binds tight. Stories about the couple, however, say they have not exactly been lovers; in many a past existence, she has been a dutiful wife, but would not yield an inch in an argument to anyone (TH:ไม่ยอมใคร mai yom krai); he only wanted to satisfy himself (TH: เอาแต่ใจคัวเอง ow tae jai tua eng). Thai lunar calendarSorry, but your removal fo stuff from this page seems unfair to me. The edit summary didn't explain the reasons behind the removal. Please contact me A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Happy Editing by Snowolf(talk)CONCOI on 19:29, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Portrayal in Cinema statementsPlease provide sources for the statements you added to Mount Ruapehu and Mount Ngauruhoe. Thanks. RedWolf 15:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
In Peter Jackson's film adaptation of The Lord of the Rings, Mount Doom was represented by Mount Ngauruhoe and Mount Ruapehu, both active volcanoes in New Zealand. In long shots the mountain is either a large model or a CGI effect, or a combination. It was not permitted to film the summit of Ngauruhoe because it is sacred to Māori of the region. However, some scenes on the slopes of Mount Doom were filmed on the slopes of another nearby volcano, Mount Ruapehu.
On-going Rocket Festival workBig Daddy, I've been watching your updates as you've been doing them. Seems like your access to the internet is a bit limited, so I just let you plug at for a while before I do anything, or say anything. Didn't want you to think I'd quit reading! I really like where you've taken it. I'm trying to get ahold of a Thai Language book on the festival, for the same reason "to make it more scholarly". I'll let you know what I come up with. But, I definitely love what you've been doing with the article. If you compare the article history right about the time you started working on it in earnest, to the page as it exists today, you'll really see a huge improvement. Keep up the great work. - Thaimoss 13:16, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Can you help in that regard? GreetingsThanks for your addition to Blackface about Thai cultural tradition and your comments on my talk page. Good to see another person of color around the place. Diversity's a good thing. ;) I'm originally from Louisiana. And, FYI, there the black/rural tradition is to call the elder patriarch (grandfather) of the family "Big Daddy" (likewise, "Big Momma" is reserved for grandmothers). I don't know much about the Isan people -- just what little I skimmed on the Internet after reading your note. I didn't really see any good photos of the people, but I do consider some Southeast Asian peoples black and members of the African diaspora. Your wife very well could be a soul sista. ;) The festival photos on your page are a gas. They remind me of some ribald tribal traditions utilizing oversized penis fetishes on the Continent. Peace to you. Regards. deeceevoice 02:28, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm originally from Georgia: same tradition, except that Big Momma resented it as she was sensitive about her size! Tho' I thought she was the size Big Momma's are supposed to be.:) IMO, Abram could as well be translated "Big Daddy" as "Exalted Father"! As for penis fetishes, a great many Linga, great and small, are used over here to scare off the Witch of Death, who is supposed to be frightened by them. Let two or three villagers die in the same week, and red-tipped Linga are sure to sprout off fences, often as knot tied with the two ends of a string encompassing the area protected. Some men and boys wear a Linga tied to their waists for the same reason; curiously, women and girls never do. Isan is a name imposed on NE Thailand as part of Thaification. Isan folk south of E-W flowing Mun River are mostly of Khmer or Cambodian origin, though folks here will tell you that as if it were something shameful. Most of those along the N-S Chi River and along the Mekong are mostly Laotian, but Laos says: "The term "Laotian" does not necessarily refer to the ethnic Lao language, ethnic Lao people, language or customs, but is a political term that also includes the non-ethnic Lao groups within Laos and identifies them as "Laotian" because of their political citizenship. In a similar vein the word "Lao" can also describe the people, cuisine, language and culture of the people of Northeast Thailand Isan, Northern Thailand Chiangmai and Chiangrai who are ethnic Lao." The area is also rich with Thai_Chinese, and any one rich is assumed to be one! An odd thing here is that I know some Thai-Chinese and Lao couples, and their children look European! But speaking of shameful, I'm currently trying to run down the many meanings of a cluster of Thai/Lao words all transcribed as 'Ai', but differing in vowel length and intonation; as I'm practically tone-deaf, I can't hear the difference! I hear one such 'Ai' used to designate a first-born son, though they say the usage is Chinese! I hear it with a different intonation to mean "You contemptible so-and-so!" One means vapor and another shy, embarrassed, ashamed -- and is the nickname of a niece who shocked everyone when she showed up in her too-young and-unmarried-mother's belly! Her parents are married now but the nickname sticks, and can be changed to Queen of the Rocket Festival just by shortening the vowel! Where it really gets interesting is that Lao folk refer to the elder race from which they descended, or sometimes to themselves collectively, as 'Ai Lao'. But, when spoken by a Central Thai, the same identical phrase carries the same emotional content as a certain English-language word that may (or may not) relate to the Niger_River#Etymology. There are for sure descendants of the modern African Diaspora in Southeast Asia, brought here by the English, French, Dutch and Portuguese. One of the interesting foot-notes to WWII is that a Japanese fluent in Dinka tried to get some British Imperial soldiers in Burma to change sides (they understood him clearly, but didn't change sides.) But they are likely to have donated DNA to local populations, as did members of the African Diaspora who came over for Vietnam. There are interesting traces in the flora and fauna of an active sea-borne trade between Mainland SEA and East Africa about 3,000 years ago. There is no scientific proof that the Vietnamese and Thai Ridgeback are related to the Rhodesian Ridgeback, but they sure do look alike. So, too, the San of South Africa and the Negrito of Southeast Asia, which includes a population in Northeastern Australia, as well as in southern Thailand. I am a fan of the 10-year-old http://andaman.org site and their Out-of-Africa Story of the human race, where it is proposed that the San and Negrito are direct descendants of the progenitors of all modern human families, a group that numbered fewer than 5,000 (and likely considerably less) that were the sole homo saps to survive a massive volcanic explosion 73,000 years ago, with only one surviving Y-DNA line, and only 3 of mtDNA (shades of Noah, his sons, and their wives!) My wife's father's father, and his father as well, were from Gujarat, who came here with 11 other Indian merchants about the time of WWII. The same year 3,000 died in NYC in 9/11, 300,000 died in the 2001 Gujarat earthquake, and she is sure some of them were her kin. Their family name was Go-me-na (equally stressed syllables -- which my over-active imagination immediately connected to Makkhali Gosala). Gram'pa was Phadaeng to Gran'ma Ai Lao, but when he took a Thai surname, it was Phasook, Cliff of Happiness, yet another twist on an old story. One Thai expression for falling in love is falling in a hole, but I say I fell off a Cliff!Pawyilee 16:02, 7 July 2007 (UTC) "Blackface in Thailand"This discussion began on Talk:Blackface under Talk:Blackface#split_article.3F as "However split". It pertains to so much of Blackface#Face_paint_and_ethnic_impersonation as reads:
Palm leaf manuscriptHi, the problem with the Palm leaf manuscript was that it was a copyright violation. Many paragraphs were copied & pasted from [5]. Of course being deleted as a copyvio does not prevent recreation from scratch. Garion96 (talk) 17:16, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Pawyilee 04:54, 20 August 2007 (UTC) Hey :)Thanks for stopping by. I haven't had a chance to check out the link, but I will. (Deadlines!) :( Peace, babe. :D deeceevoice 06:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC) Hi, I replaced your edit to the above article. The reason you blanked most of the article is because you used the tag <ref> at the end of the reference rather than the correct </ref>. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 20:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC) Thai nicknamesI'd like to see a source for your assertion that the King's nickname is Ong Lek. He wasn't a king, or even heir to the throne, when he was a child, and his childhood nickname was plain Lek. (My source for this is Hutchinson's book, which refers to him as Lek throughout). I agree that almost no-one would now call the king by his nickname. Maybe his wife does, and his late sister probably did. As for Thaksin, however, he is commonly called Meow in the Thai press, and caricatured as a cat. So I am going to modify the line you added, which isn't very encyclopaedic in any case. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 17:17, 5 January 2008 (UTC) Image:Yantric Matrices04.jpg This "Billion Yantra" (billion as in may-you-become-a-billionare) chart may belong on the Yantra page. Or not. I found it posted on a wall in a beauty shop in Yasothon, but the owner knows nothing about it. At the bottom it appears to be attributed, not to a temple, but to a business selling amulets etc., in อ.ศรีเมืองใหม่ Amphoe Si Mueang Mai, though I'm not all sure of the translation of สำนักสงฆ์สวนหิผานางคอย. Google turned up this image for the supposed composer, หลวงปู่ (Venerated Grandfather) เซมจาโร (Semjaro): http://www.krusiam.com/shop/takhli/product/detail.asp?ProductID=P0035934 I know nothing of Yantra or Tantra in Thailand, much less what beasts are depicted coupling, so I fear the image is "orphaned" for now. Pawyilee (talk) 05:51, 16 March 2008 (UTC) Darwin Among the MachinesWow. I just realized (a month later) that I mixed up you and Sparkygravity. Very embarassing. I told him that I was creating Darwin Among the Machines instead of you. Stupid. Sorry. Good work on Darwin Among the Machines. I think this article is well researched, well written and interesting. Forgive me for trimming it out of "AI" and "History of AI" without talking to you about it first. I realized I should tell you right after I moved it, and then, like an idiot, I mixed you and Sparkygravity up, so anyway sorry. (The reason I trimmed it, if it isn't obvious, is that I'm trying to keep these articles centered on "What major AI textbooks and popular histories tend to mention" with enough detail so that the major themes come through.) ---- CharlesGillingham (talk) 22:06, 19 March 2008 (UTC) Re: Thai BahtTake a look at Wikipedia:Images for how to upload and use images on Wikipedia, and Wikipedia:Extended image syntax for the options about displaying images in articles. As it says on my user page, I'm blind so I can't really help with image placement ... ask about that on the help desk. Graham87 07:34, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
HiNice to see someone else working on Thai, and especially Isan articles; I was in Ubon until a couple of years ago. :) The more the better! HenryFlower 11:16, 14 April 2008 (UTC) Education in ThailandWell, I've had a look at it; there's a lot of information there, which was interesting for me, but there's so little in the way of inline references that it's hard to disentangle the fact from the opinion. My other worry is that it's too western-centric, with a long section on the teaching of English - much as I'm interested in it myself, it's just one subject. I'm not sure I'm in a position to add much to this one though - what we really need is someone who can process a lot of Thai-language sources. HenryFlower 11:25, 22 April 2008 (UTC) April 2008
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If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 12:14, 7 May 2008 (UTC) Rocket FestivalThe rocket festival is not confined to Yasothon. It's pretty much all over Isan, that's why I asked how you would feel about your article appearing on the Isan page. It was only a suggestion - I would certainly not consider modifying or moving it without discussing it first. Kudpung (talk) 09:15, 12 May 2008 (UTC) Lunar CalendarI had a look at the article and the work in your sandbox. Gosh, it"s complicated stuff. To be honest, I can only write with style about things I know something about - that's why most of my contribs have long passages of text. The Lunar Calendar is a mass of information, probably what I can do is Wikify it a bit when you have a release version ready of your sandbox trial, but if all the information is in the logical order you want it too be, it's probably ok for publication. In the meantime, I'm doing stuff on all the Rhône wines. I will be in the UK from 15 May through 6 June with only a dial-up so I won't be doing much Wikying. Kud Pung village does not have DSL, so I have an iPstar satellite connection which is quite good but rather expensive.Kudpung (talk) 09:48, 12 May 2008 (UTC) Education in ThailandThanks for your vigilance. Do you know how to get the IP of people like that banned? I also heavily edited some other drivel and deleted what was totally off topic. The UK was cold and wet and I'm glad to be back. If you want any info on the iPstar broadband satellite connection, let me know. Kudpung (talk) 22:26, 16 June 2008 (UTC) NamasteDear Sir: I am surprised and honoured by your request to edit your interesting article on the Thai calendar. I have made a few minor changes; I sincerely hope that you will find them acceptable. Writtenright (talk) 22:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)Writtenright
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Image copyright problem with Image:Maejo University Logo.pngThanks for uploading Image:Maejo University Logo.png. The image has been identified as not specifying the copyright status of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. If you don't indicate the copyright status of the image on the image's description page, using an appropriate copyright tag, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided copyright information for them as well. For more information on using images, see the following pages: This is an automated notice by STBotI. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 15:15, 31 July 2008 (UTC) Phuyailee songHi. I've seen a lot of your nice contributions on Thailand-related articles and decided to drop by your user page. I've corrected a few spelling on tonal marks. Eakka (talk) 14:20, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
August 2008Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Laotian Civil War has been reverted. Your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove unwanted links and spam from Wikipedia. The external link you added or changed is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. The external links I reverted were matching the following regex rule(s): rule: '\bangelfire\.com\b' (link(s): http://www.angelfire.com/in/Laos/) . If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. Please read Wikipedia's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! XLinkBot (talk) 10:13, 16 August 2008 (UTC) If you've got some time, could you have a look at People's Alliance for Democracy? I'm very frustrated by what I think are some blatantly POV edits made by a trio of new users: Heavens child, BasicallySo, and GoodHands. NPOV can be made to work with controversial topics, but it takes lots of eyeballs and the willingness to play by Wikipedia rules. Hopefully you can provide another set of eyeballs and give some useful 3rd party opinions! Thanks a bunch. Patiwat (talk) 06:10, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Well, no, you can't balance one POV with another one, but I'm hard put to rewrite it. I'm from Georgia (U.S. state) and know vote-buying isn't easy, and that politicos can't get a refund for votes bought but not delivered. Where I live now, people have bought the office of อ.ป.ต. township commissioner, and been run out of office, if not out of town, when the projects commissioned went bust. Evidently, a law requires them to put up big green billboards on each project with their names, along with who they commissioned for what and for how much. Interestingly, the most recent billboards carry a 2-year expiration date. And a practice that has died out entirely was that of politicos painting their names and party affiliation on สาลาริมถนน roofs, which backfired when they only served as constant reminders of who was to blame. Pawyilee (talk) 13:40, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Rocket Festival / ประเพณีบุญบั้งไฟBig Daddy Lee, I'm interested in your Lao aspect of the festival. The simple reason I ordered the Thai and Lao language parenthetical references was because of the weight of the article. By that I mean that this article is fundamentally about the Rocket Festival as documented through its practice and observations in Thailand. You and I both recognize the Laotian origin of the people and culture of Isan, so there is always that question. Of course, this Isan region of Thailand is like so many other places around the world, throughout time, where the 'people' and the 'country' don't align. We could show so many examples of how the Isan 'people' are Laotian. But, in today's context, they're Thai, nationally. And, in this article, you and I have incorporated photos from Yasothon, and Roi Et and you did some great work with that stuff from the Yasothon Municipal Bang Fai Museum. You've rasied a good point about the opportunity to continue to enhance the content of this article with some information about the correlation of the festival to the 'people', and by that way, underscore the ethnic and religious backgrounds of the people of Isan. - Thaimoss (talk) 22:11, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Thai highway networkHi, Khun Pawyilee. I just noticed that you added content to Thai highway network. The external link of this article (http://map-project.doh.go.th/ZoomRaster.asp) ist dead. Do you have an alternative? --hdamm (talk) 16:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
November 2008Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Viktor Bout has been reverted. Your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove unwanted links and spam from Wikipedia. The external link you added or changed is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. The external links I reverted were matching the following regex rule(s): rule: '\bblogspot\.com' (link(s): http://jotman.blogspot.com/2008/10/kommersant-interview-with-victor-bout.html) . If the external link you inserted or changed was to a blog, forum, free web hosting service, or similar site, then please check the information on the external site thoroughly. Note that such sites should probably not be linked to if they contain information that is in violation of the creator's copyright (see Linking to copyrighted works), or they are not written by a recognised, reliable source. Linking to sites that you are involved with is also strongly discouraged (see conflict of interest). If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. Please read Wikipedia's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! XLinkBot (talk) 11:57, 5 November 2008 (UTC) Yasothon's Bangfy museumDear user, you seem to be think that I have made a contribution to an article. However, I'm the maintainer of HotCat, which is a javascript tool that other users use in making edits. The edit that you suggest I have made, is made by another user most likely and you followed the HotCat link in that users edit summary. Users are however individually responsible for their edits, and therefore I cannot help you, you will have to talk to the other editor. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:13, 30 November 2008 (UTC) Stereotypes of Jews AfDHey, Pawyilee. :) Reading your entry at the AfD, you don't say explicitly "Keep" or "Delete." Please amend your comments so that your vote can be tallied when the time comes. Thanks for stopping by and weighing in -- and happy new year! :D deeceevoice (talk) 20:49, 3 January 2009 (UTC) Hi Pawyilee. I noticed that you've done a lot of edits on this article and seem to be somewhat knowledgable. I'm an active cleanup editor and noticed that this article needed a little work. I've done some extensive editing to the article to make it more readable and clarify a few things. If you could check over my work to make sure that I didn't mess up anything, I'd be most appreciative. I'm not knowledgable about the Thai calendar, so I could only go on what was there. Thanks! --Lendorien (talk) 16:35, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi Pawyilee. This article has now been considerably expanded and reedited, reassessed and promoted, but a template was added disputing the neutrality of your contribution on Thaification. Personally I can't see any issues with the neutrality, however, I do think the contrib would gain more in importance and relevance if it were transferred to the main page on Thaification which needs expanding, leaving a short mention on its influence on education, and a link to the main article. What do you think?Kudpung (talk) 22:49, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Proposal for new Manual of Style for Thailand-related articlesA drafted new version of the Manual of Style for Thailand-related articles has been started here. Still at issue are specific naming conventions for Thai royals and nobles and settlements. As a member of WikiProject Thailand, you are welcome to contribute to the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Thailand#Updating the Manual of Style (part 2). Paul_012 (talk) 18:29, 10 February 2009 (UTC) Hi, I am quite interested in the idea you are proposing on this article's talk page. Regardless, as it is a Featured Article, it would have to bide by the policies and guidelines of veriability and reliable sourcing. As such, I am going about the steps of showing explicitly that the name and function of the idol in the article are said by the subject in question. Do you think this edit has made it clear? Please share your thoughts on the talk page. Jappalang (talk) 12:15, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Malvern WaterHi Pawyilee, this is nothing to do with Thailand (I have to change my focus from time to time), but wonder if I could impose on you for a completely unbiased review of Malvern Water. The article that I recently split from its parent and expanded has just been tagged for POV and weasel words. As I'm generally extremely careful what I write, I can't really see any justification in the editor's comments. If you have time could you please take a look it and make any suggestions you think fit on its talk page, and/or come out in support of it. It certainly doesn't lack any notability, and it's well referenced. Many thanks. --Kudpung (talk) 05:02, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
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Thailand-United Kingdom relationsJust found the right book for it will start soon Sodacan (talk) 01:16, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
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This low-resolution image of a 100-Baht Banknote Series 14 Back, the same as on the backs of Series 14 and 15 100-baht banknotes first announced 20 October 2537 BE/AD 1994 and continued unchanged on the Series 15 of 22 October 2547 BE/AD 2004, but since quietly replaced by Series 15 (Revised) 19 September 2548 BE/AD 2005, is used judiciously in Education in Thailand to present the key visual aspects of the sub-topic, Thaification. *File:100B_m14r_legend_250x60.PNG, *File:100B_m14r_school_156x250.png, and *File:100B_m14r_temple_195x250.png are cropped from the original to call attention to the inscription (in translation) "Education in our nation is of the first importance/therefore I shall diligently improve it./Thus remarked Rama V"; pupils at a modern school, and boys receiving instruction at a Buddhist wat as in days of old. --Pawyilee (talk) 08:40, 4 January 2010 (UTC) Thai-US relations are drifting apartThanks for the article, its very interesting. Really looking forward to Anupong getting an earful from Patrick Leahy, tickets to that please! It was telling I thought when Hillary Clinton on her first visit to Asia on behalf of the new administration would go to Indonesia first, even before Singapore or Thailand. Seeing as Indonesian is now a economically and politically more stable than us. What a contrast us in 1997 and Indonesia in 1997 and now 2010 Indonesia a relatively stable democracy and Thailand in complete meltdown. Anyway I just finished this article please have a look and edit away- Burmo-Siamese War (1548–49) Sodacan (BTW I have never seen the movie) (talk) 15:34, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
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ThailandHi Paw. Nice to see that you are still following the Thai articles, and thanks again for your input. I must admit I haven't been very busy on them lately except for cleaning up the inevitable spam on Pattaya stuff, etc. I've been rather busy micromanaging a Wikipedia project about my home county in the UK. There seems to be some new editors who are helping to clean up some of the Thai articles, including the one on Education. It's a shame they can't read up on Wikipedia policy before complaining about what others do. I've suggested that if they don't like the article, I can have it deleted so that they can write a new one themselves. it was probably a rather brusque comment, but some people that think a high edit count from just correcting work that other people have spent hours doing, is the path to adminship. Best regards, --Kudpung (talk) 00:39, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Thai Royal and Noble titlesHi, I have deleted all your changes to the Thai royal and noble titles article. First of all I understand why you would want to put the information where you did, but apart from it being of linguistic interests and trivial coincidence, it is not correct. 'abhisit' is a word, not a title- put the definition in a dictionary not on a noble titles page. Ammat is a title, but it is a government title like Palad Krasuang or Ratamontri NOT, again not a noble title- if you want to provide the information somewhere put it in a proper page, otherwise you are encouraging to the worst kind of political discussion: trivial and personal. I am no fan of Abhisit or his crew but this is absurd. Sodacan (talk) 10:28, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Any university educated Thai native speaker will laugh at this.Well, at least you have a handle on the problem, if only you can put yourself in the flip-flops (เกิบ)of the ones being laughed at. The red shirts' beef is not with Abhisit's name, but with the noun abhisit. Nor do they have a beef with the name of a title given to anyone's ancestor, but with people called courtiers (ammat in Thai.) Take time to click on the link for other shirts opinion of stereotypical courtiers. What I'd like to do is clarify for readers the stereotypes in play among 2010 protesters. You say prai hasn't been used since the Ayutthaya period. You obviously haven't been to Bangkok lately. If you like, I can send you the T-shirt. You also haven't been to red shirt country lately, or you'd know that university-educated Thai native speakers are fairly easy to find. And my wife, who holds a ปริญญาตี from the University of Hard Knocks, knows the meaning of abhisit and does not like it, though she's never said anything about him. Meanwhile, the subject matter of Thao, Si/Sri, Prai, Ammat, Abhisit and Abhisitchon can sit in my sandbox for all I care for as long as you care to exercise your abhisit. --Pawyilee (talk) 13:28, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
We need to settle this soon, or let it go forever, as I expect any day now arryathamm will end, along with electricity and web service. --Pawyilee (talk) 10:59, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Again please explain to me your objections, I'm still waiting. Sodacan (talk) 12:19, 20 May 2010 (UTC) TalkbackMootros (talk) 19:37, 19 May 2010 (UTC) Little Brown Jug of RenuI put the little brown jug of Renu in the Sato (rice wine) article in the first place, but someone else objected that my posting appeared to be an advertisement rather than an explication of the rather amusing advertisements on such jugs, and suggested I move it to its own article. I'm happy you merged it back where it belongs, though I've gone back and re-worded it considerably. Please edit my edit, if you please! --Pawyilee (talk) 14:50, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Dry ice treatment in bedbug articleSorry for terminating with extreme prejudice. It's just that ... well, all too often, after I've done my almost-daily review of recent edits, looking for the subtler forms of vandalism and other transgressions, I seldom have much enthusiasm left over to properly address a new topic. Especially if it hasn't gotten off to a good start on its own. The article used to be drowning in (undoubtedly well-intentioned) WP:HOWTO vios, and still has some spam in its references. I worked for weeks cleaning that stuff out and reorganizing. I've heard about dry ice for abatement, and in fact the article does need a section on professional detection and extermination techniques. Actually, I think it used to mention dry ice treatment. However, the fact that bedbugs (and their eggs) can be killed by freezing (and perhaps with CO2 atmosphere saturation) is something you can infer from the biology section. That's how I left it after nuking everything how-to related. Dry ice treatment is fairly new, and of uncertain value to most people. ("New", by itself, isn't bad -- the use of dogs for sniffing out nests is new. But it's also apparently very effective.) The solid, proven, mainstream treatments ought to get first priority. Still, if you put in a section on treatments that only mentioned dry ice, and kept it brief (please don't do the whole journalistic who-what-when-where-why, it makes it sound even more spammy), and with WP:RS-compliant sourcing, I think it would be OK. I might tag it as WP:UNDUE. But not to get it deleted, really. More to get other, more worthy stuff mentioned in the same section. Yakushima (talk) 05:53, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
USMC reading list & Ender's GameWell, if mentioning the USMC reading list in Starship Troopers is fair, then saying something about it in Ender's Game should be fine. It's funny how the reading list recommends it from PFC up a few grades, stops, then it reappears at the officer's candidate level. Yakushima (talk) 14:01, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
ARYAHi, yes read it. Thank you for this info. Rajkris (talk) 08:53, 9 September 2010 (UTC) Hell in a hand basket phrase and Camp Douglas conspiracyI wanted to be sure to let you know directly that I just left a reply to your comments on the above subject on the talk page of the Camp Douglas (Chicago) article. I appreciate your remarks, especially because you correctly pointed out some problems with my last revision, and your approach to the matter. I leave my remarks from the discussion page in the article again here for convenience:
Battle of Griswoldville; correct point, inaccurate source, better sourceSee my reply to your comment on the Battle of Griswoldville talk page. I won't repeat it all here but the nutshell version is that your point is right but your web site source appears to be inaccurate. I think it is only by chance that it cites a figure in the ball park for Union Army soldiers over the age of 44 (but somewhat off if you include 44 year olds). You will see the error; they used the figure just for 44 year olds and ignored the older ages. A worse error is made for the soldiers age 26 to 43, I note what I think is a better source for your point, which is the 1 million enlistment study itself, properly read and interpreted.Donner60 (talk) 08:53, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Searching other language wikis{{helpme}} How do I search for other language wikis? I feel sure there must be some besides English and Thai for Phra Mae Thorani. --Pawyilee (talk) 14:03, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Electoral CollegeTalkback|Talk:Electoral College (United States)|Number of electoral votes per state per election (talk) 23:11, 8 February 2011 (UTC) St John's College, CambridgeAmong your other confusions regarding St John's College, Cambridge, I'm intrigued as to why you made this edit, adding David Cameron? Did you read David Cameron#Education, which says, clearly, that he was at Brasenose, Oxford? And if Cameron *had* been a Johnian, don't you think he would already be listed among our alumni? - David Biddulph (talk) 08:20, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
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I also removed the 'Party Leadership' section as it conveyed nothing more than the infobox at the top. I hope you understand this was done with the best of intentions. Gonefishing (talk) 18:45, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
Solar panelsI removed the "controversy" stuff you added to Solar panel. None of that was actually controversy about solar panels themselves; rather, it was about companies that make solar panels. That would be like adding info about the various lawsuits McDonalds has faced to Hamburger, or adding information about GM's bankruptcy and bailout to automobile. Qwyrxian (talk) 12:44, 19 September 2011 (UTC) Re: "Yes, it was relevant as background"Talkback|Goldsztajn#Yes.2C_it_was_relevant_as_background Piping linksHi. You might like to take a look at the guidelines at Wikipedia:Piped link. In particular, links should lead to what the titles suggest. When
Please tell me what you think of the opening paragraph you now get when you click on Siam. Though I wrote it myself, I don't like it and think a better editor could make it much more concise. Write now. I have too many irons in the fire. I only recently discovered the Laotian Rebellion in the Vietnam portal, and it is in serious need need of rescue. Please meet me over at Talk:Laotian_Rebellion! --Pawyilee (talk) 09:29, 26 October 2011 (UTC) Twentieth century impressions of SiamThe book itself is not notable and so cannot have its own article here in Wikipedia, but as you say it does includes some important information. Given that it is out of copyright, my suggestion is that it be added to Wikibooks - see here. Neutralitytalk 00:05, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
Hey!I left Anderson AFB in Guam in 1973.....I was the ten year old kid at the airport anxiously waiting to breath air I couldn't feel as I moved (the most humid place I ever experianced...for two years) LOL!--Amadscientist (talk) 05:46, 18 February 2012 (UTC) ...And depending on what time of the year that was....your pay stubs might have had my dads name on them ;)!--Amadscientist (talk) 05:49, 18 February 2012 (UTC) Template:Please expand this article
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Crawfurd missionMy thought is that the article would be easier to write if Siamese invasion of Kedah existed. And it should exist, anyway. In particular the previous involvement of the East India Company is pretty much essential background for Crawfurd's interests; and it occurred in 1821. So, how would you like to proceed? There is a book by Bonney that is highly relevant; the Google Books view is only snippet, but I happen to have had it on my shelves for a very long time. Crawfurd is cited about 10 times. I could just start a draft in the next few days, and we could see how it looked. Charles Matthews (talk) 17:58, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Good luck. Charles Matthews (talk) 07:27, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Hey Pawyilee, did something go wrong there? Best, Drmies (talk) 14:20, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
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- I think it's great; wish I could write half as well. Now, how did you come to pick me, and where is your talk page?—Pawyilee (talk) 13:42, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
I think it's safe to do this. I changed the entry in Hercules (disambiguation) for two reasons. I redirected the article to 2014 North American Cold Wave because the North American storm was covered there, or at least it was when I got through. That article links to Cyclone Anne (2014). The other is that I discovered it was listed as a place.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:26, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks for the edit Re: the Bunnag_family and Sheik Ahmad. I guess my article is pretty much now done. Could I submit it to some sort of Featured Article review? If so, how? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Singora (talk • contribs) 19:20, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
- Henceforth, do not make further edits to this article unless you know exactly what you are doing. I've undone a couple of your edits as they impacted very negatively on readability. Unless you are intimately acquainted with the subject matter, please DISCUSS rather than MAKE possible edits.
- A case in point is your assertion re: a family of silk weavers being descendants of Sultan Sulaiman Shah. You've obviously not looked at the section I've headlined "The Singora Legacy". This section links to the following reference:
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- You didn't read this, did you?
- Another issue concerns your edit as shown below:
- "The city was initially a Southeast-Asian political model vassal of Siam"
- Please, this is verbosity taken to the extreme. It's unreadable. It hinders rather than helps.
--Singora (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 18:54, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
- Mandala (Southeast Asian political model) explains power relationship better than English word vassal, but your point is well-taken with regards to verbosity. I lack the skill to merge reference to "circles of power" into your text. Consider pipe-linking to vassal, or at least include it in See also. Same for parenthetical reference to Malay styles and titles with regards to the city's founder's title "Dato." Note, too, I piped the Java he fled to Java's Colonial periods, which gives the setting Mongol fled. As to the silk weaver's reference, I cannot sight-read Thai, but must "decode" it; nevertheless, Thai silk explains what they were weaving, even if it lacks a reference to weaving in Surat Thani. Rather than make any more changes there, I'll do as you suggest and make suggests on the talk page. I would have done that anyway, had you responded to my first suggestion there which you still have not done. Nor can I make suggestions on your talk page, as you have yet to open an account and set one up.—Pawyilee (talk) 08:50, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
- Chavalit Yongchaiyudh is of Sino-Thai and ethnic Lao descent.[1] How is he also of Persian descent?—Pawyilee (talk) 09:15, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
- Mandala (Southeast Asian political model) explains power relationship better than English word vassal, but your point is well-taken with regards to verbosity. I lack the skill to merge reference to "circles of power" into your text. Consider pipe-linking to vassal, or at least include it in See also. Same for parenthetical reference to Malay styles and titles with regards to the city's founder's title "Dato." Note, too, I piped the Java he fled to Java's Colonial periods, which gives the setting Mongol fled. As to the silk weaver's reference, I cannot sight-read Thai, but must "decode" it; nevertheless, Thai silk explains what they were weaving, even if it lacks a reference to weaving in Surat Thani. Rather than make any more changes there, I'll do as you suggest and make suggests on the talk page. I would have done that anyway, had you responded to my first suggestion there which you still have not done. Nor can I make suggestions on your talk page, as you have yet to open an account and set one up.—Pawyilee (talk) 08:50, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
- Ha! Good question. What's happening here is that you're placing too much trust in Wikipedia! Chavalit Yongchaiyudh is actually one of the best known descendants of Sultan Sulaiman Shah. Look again at the Singora legacy. The reference pertaining to Chavalit Yongchaiyudh is number 24. It's the Songklanakarin Journal of Social Sciences & Humanities. It's all in Thai, however.
- This is a PHD thesis written by a Thai student in England. It's in English:
- See page 82. A sentence reads "Additionally, General Chavalit Yongchaiyut, a retired army commander and former prime minister, who is still active as a politician, is descended from another Persian family, that of Sultan Sulaiman (Jitmuad 1998)". Notice the reference to Jitmuad. This is the one I've used (ie, the Songklanakarin Journal). Perhaps it would be better to use this English language reference rather than the Thai reference I'm currently using, but I'm concerned about the possibility of link rot.
- Finally, take a quick look at this: http://www.al-shia.org/html/thi/page.php?id=270&page=2. It's in Thai but you can easily use Google Translate. You'll see that paragraph three shows a small list of Sultan Sulaiman's descendants. In total, there are 164 Thai families descended from Sulaiman. ( Singora (talk) 07:25, 22 March 2014 (UTC) )
- OK -- I've just made some more chabges. For the Singora legacy, I've used the English language PHD thesis as my source. I believe the link will be stable. This is a good source as it mentions that the mother of King Rama III was also descended from Sultan Sulaiman. I hope you'll now find everything a bit clearer. ( Singora (talk) 11:18, 22 March 2014 (UTC) )
- WebCite, not to be confused with "website," fights link rot. It is privately funded and I'd greatly appreciate your giving them a PayPal donation, which is my sole reason for having a PayPal account. It is a great way to preserve theses, which are often taken down by institutions that initially published them. WebCite is blocked by many Thai government sites, which seem to have an aversion to being held accountable to history, even for seemingly innocuous reports, such as the lineage of Abhisit Vejjajiva. —Pawyilee (talk) 13:00, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- OK -- I've just made some more chabges. For the Singora legacy, I've used the English language PHD thesis as my source. I believe the link will be stable. This is a good source as it mentions that the mother of King Rama III was also descended from Sultan Sulaiman. I hope you'll now find everything a bit clearer. ( Singora (talk) 11:18, 22 March 2014 (UTC) )
As for placing too much trust in Wikipedia, Wikipedia is about venerability, not truth! I also try to harmonize articles, which is why I suggest
- move to Singgora Sultanate
- define Dato as Malay title not a name
- mention at least somewhere other than on the Talk page the circles of power in Mandala (Southeast Asian political model)
—Pawyilee (talk) 13:31, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- Hello again. I reverted to your Dato link. I'm not sure why I actually removed it! As for putting a link to Mandala (Southeast Asian political model), I have to say that you really must forget this garbage. Take a look at any academic narrative discussing the southern peninsular states and you'll only ever see these terms mentioned:
- 1. vassal or vassal states
- 2. suzerainty
- 3. Bunga mas
- My Sultanate of Singgora article includes references to each of the above terms. No one but no one ever talks about Mandala Asian Political Horse Crap. Seriously, no one!
- I submitted the article for Featured Article review. I guess I'll just have to wait and see what happens next.
- Out of curiosity, have I come across you before on a forum? I notice the comments on your user page re: Vietnam and U Tapao Royal Thai Navy Air Base. If you are who I think you might be, you may remember something unusual about my girlfriend's surname. Finally, why would anyone have a problem with Abhisit's family history?
( Singora (talk) 06:58, 23 March 2014 (UTC) )
- garbage? You're proposing the article for deletion? And, no, I've never heard of you or your girlfriend outside of these talk pages, and beginning to wish I'd never heard of Singgora! —Pawyilee (talk) 12:08, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
- I tried your WebCite recommendation and it worked. Thanks. I've archived one of the PHD theses my article references. In due course I'll archive other important web links, too.
- I submitted the article for a FEATURED ARTICLE Review, and thus far (after three days) no one has commented on anything. What a load of bollocks! I'll just carry on writing a proper article for the Journal of the Siam Society. I can really see now why experts don't waste their time with Wikipedia.( Singora (talk) 16:37, 27 March 2014 (UTC) )
- Interested in knowing how JSS's peer review process works. —Pawyilee (talk) 22:15, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- I submitted the article for a FEATURED ARTICLE Review, and thus far (after three days) no one has commented on anything. What a load of bollocks! I'll just carry on writing a proper article for the Journal of the Siam Society. I can really see now why experts don't waste their time with Wikipedia.( Singora (talk) 16:37, 27 March 2014 (UTC) )
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I know of no reliable source for this info. I only know it because I was one of the Project 404 personnel in Laos. My personal experience is thus, in WP rules, the notorious and dreaded "Original research".Georgejdorner (talk) 18:05, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
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Also consider digging into the many websites put up by veterans of various operations: these are considered "peer-reviewed" sources. Write now Contemporary Historical Examination of Current Operations (series) (CHECO) is practically useless, but worth a look. One CHECO report is used in Ref#9 at Battle of Lima Site 85. Some of its references link to peer-revived web sites. Also see how references are used in companion articles such as the current article on the 1st Combat Evaluation Group, my earlier version, and the current Combat Skyspot. You can see an archived site now on Wikipedia's Black List if you go ogle GROUND-CONTROLLED RADAR BOMBING (Necessity is the Mother of Invention). Further information: Operation Arc Light, Operation Commando Hunt, and Operation Menu. Remember to check the TALKs.
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- Yep, my old military intelligence reports finally are being recycled by the historians.Georgejdorner (talk) 22:01, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
- LIKE! —Pawyilee (talk) 08:03, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
- Yep, my old military intelligence reports finally are being recycled by the historians.Georgejdorner (talk) 22:01, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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