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Hi, I think that the current surveys show that happiness favours married parents rather than childless couples. The data from pewresearch and the other surveys also display that unmarried people (including women) with no children have a lower rate of happiness relatively speaking. I think that the old passage relied on the opinions of one sociologist in order to make its point when the picture expresses another, namely that married people are significantly happier than unmarried people, and that married people with children are margianlly happier than couples without children (which is only true in recent times). Skellyret (talk) 19:58, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I made it more objective and I also added more information, I think that should fix the dispute :) Skellyret (talk) 20:12, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- First of all, please learn for format citations properly. Do not just drop links like that. We have all kinds of tools that could help you. In the Visual Editor, you can use the key combination Ctrl+Shift+k and a dialog box will pop up. Second, if you checked the sources, and there are many of them, you would find that it is not "one sociologist" pushing an opinion. The status quo is fine. It is, overall, a mixed picture, with a slight tilt towards non-parents, some of whom childfree. It is possible for the balance to shift due to statistical fluctuations. But of course, statistics only apply to ensembles, not individuals. Involuntarily childless people and regretful parents will both be unhappy. Nerd271 (talk) 03:08, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I used the same method of citation based on the simple title version from Wikipedia:Bare URLs, so it should already be formatted properly.
- Furthermore you cited only 3 sources for the claim that on average parents are less happy than childless people, of which 2 of them (the only relevant ones in this case) are based on the opinion of one sociologist. I left the one pubmed source because it conducts an analyses of 22 different nations, whilst my passage was based on recent studies from in 2020 and 2022. Pewresearch and the other sources also clearly demonstrates that the evidence for the general claim that childless, unmarried women are happiest (even in 2012) is at the least very iffy.
- The balance has shifted, atleast for America. The evidence shows it. Skellyret (talk) 12:56, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
