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Loving the work you have done on the Germán Busch page! I love learning about Bolivian history and it's somewhat safer than editing the pages of the living politicians lol. If there is anything I can help with, let me know. Also, do you know of any good books I can buy in Bolivia on the Presidents? Crmoorhead (talk) 20:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Thanks for the comment, I'm glad my work is of interest to some people. Bolivia has a fascinating history that I believe many more people would get into if it was more easily accessible on Wikipedia. In terms of books, I'm not sure if you speak Spanish but if you do then the book I've used as a source quite often is Presidentes de Bolivia: entre urnas y fusiles written by ex-president and historian Carlos Mesa which documents the history of Bolivia's presidents and includes statistical tables of their cabinets, vice presidents, and terms, etc. Mesa is also one of the creators of "Bolivia Siglo XX" a series of hour long documentaries on the history of Bolivia if that interests you. They're all on YouTube. I hope that helps. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 20:44, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, yes I can read Spanish. I know of Siglo XX and have been procrastinating watching the YouTube videos for some time. My wife (who is a Bolivian national) has highly recommended it too, but the information in the book seems ideal, thanks! I have a short book on the Chaco War, but nothing else. There are big gaps in Bolivian history on Wikipedia and what is there is often very politically motivated from sources writing a long way from the country itself. I mainly started editing here because there was shocking discrepancy between what I see in English-speaking media and what I was reading from the daily news in Bolivia. It surprised me that it was so different, but it was a learning experience. Crmoorhead (talk) 14:22, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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They should not have been left blank. This is probably a legacy of the seat changes being uncertain and no-one has completed it yet (I have now filled it in). Please could you fill in all the blanks you have created on other articles. If a party had no seats before and won no seats, the change is 0. You can see this in the tables of previous elections (before you deleted the cells' contents). Cheers, Number5723:49, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: The changes in seats per party noted above is in comparison with the annulled 2019 elections which were never enforced. The operational numbers during the interim period were consistent with the results of the 2014 Bolivian general election.
Hello. Do you have the Mesa book of election results? I am slightly puzzled by the claimed results of the 1913 and 1931 elections, which both had one candidate, but the number of candidate votes and valid votes is not the same. Were there 'against' votes, or possibly write-ins? Cheers, Number5722:11, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Number 57: I do have that book. According to the table on page 303, Ismael Montes ran unopposed in 1913 and won 98.86% (the article on Wikipedia says 98.87) with 77,731 votes. The total number of votes cast in the election were 78,622. Nothing is mentioned of 38,997 valid votes anywhere in the book.
As for Daniel Salamanca, he won with 38,282 votes and 98.16% (the article says 98.17% so presumably one is rounding down while the other is rounding up). The total number of cast votes in 1931 were 38,997. Hence, the information on the article for the 1931 election is correct.
The difference in total votes and votes for candidates is likely due to the fact that Mesa's book also includes the amount of votes cast which were deemed invalid. Therefore, the information on the 1931 election is correct while that of 1913 should be changed from 38,997 to 78,622. It appears that the 1913 article has made a mistake with the correct 78,622 having been put in the % section of the table. Though I have no clue where the 38,997 number came from. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 22:30, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! It looks like the 38,997 in the 1913 article is a leftover from the creator copying the text from the 1931 article – I've edited both per your comments.
A related question – it looks like there may have been separate elections for the two vice presidents in 1913 (apparently there were in 1917) – was this the case, and if so, are figures in the book? Cheers, Number5712:06, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, Mesa's book (at least the 3rd edition from 2003), does not seem to include vice presidential election results. The 1917 article cites Cáceres not Mesa so presumably only the former includes these statistics. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 16:08, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I intend to expand both pages with a list of all ministers and some general information soon. In the meantime, would it be acceptable to make both articles redirects to the Cabinet of Bolivia page in order for me to use the link itself on other articles. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 00:01, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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@Ip says: And that is precisely why I put my political affiliations there, in order to keep my own biases in check. And while yes the Civic Community is an opposition party, it was not affiliated with the Áñez government or her party for that matter. Even then, I have no strong connection to it and support it only in so far as it is the most left-leaning of the opposition groups. Personally, I have no strong opinion on whether the 2019 crisis was or wasn't a coup but nevertheless it remains a hotly discussed topic, especially in Bolivia itself where the answer is much more blurry than in other countries who seem to have made up their mind that it was for the most part. As such, and in keeping with neutral POV, I try my best to walk a very fine line when it comes to wording on the subject as I believe the reader of an article should come to their own conclusions without being led to a singular one (As an example: the 2019 Bolivian protests article seems to favor the anti-coup argument far more while the 2019 Bolivian political crisis article leans the other way). For that reason, I apologise if our edits have come into conflict but I am merely trying to keep sentence structure as neutral as possible, though I do accept that my over-caution may come off as bias. With that said, I appreciate you reaching out on my talk page, I hope this was explanatory and I also wish my best regards. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 06:19, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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I read through the significant expansion of the article. Just one thing, though. She is still a Chilean citizen and as of right now is registered as a voter in Peñalolén. Her Chilean birth certificate does not include any mention to her supposed action (when this happens, a subinscription is performed). As a result, she did not actually renounce her nationality. The article implies she has, which she hasn't. Bedivere (talk) 14:59, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Spanish rendition of Salvatierra's article mentions that she is still registered to vote in Peñalolén as of 2021 but the citation is a non-clickable link to what appears to be a Chilean registry that I don't have access to. If you can provide a verifiable source that she is still a Chilean citizen, I'd be happy to correct the article. Until then, I can't really add any uncited information. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 15:53, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That is certainly interesting. Her presence on a 2021 Chilean electoral roll does evidence the theory Salvatierra may retain her Chilean citizenship. Still, I don't believe it's sufficient to outright claim that she lied about renouncing her nationality or to state that she somehow recovered it. On the other hand, it's substantial enough to warrant mention in the article. I added this note as a compromise: "As of 2021, Salvatierra remained registered on the Peñalolén commune's electoral roll, qualifying her to vote in that year's general elections. Still, it remains unclear whether or not this implies that she regained her Chilean citizenship or never renounced it at all. Article 11 of the Chilean Constitution outlines a method in which an individual may recover their nationality. However, Jorge Tarud, former president of the Chilean Foreign Relations Committee, considers that this option is only feasible for native Chileans, and "he never saw it applied" to Chilean nationals born abroad." Krisgabwoosh (talk) 23:44, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I can obtain her birth certificate and upload it to Commons, since it's freely licensed too. That also proves she hasn't renounced her citizenship. Anyway, keep up the good work. Bedivere (talk) 05:10, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
When someone renounces their citizenship, a subinscription is performed on the birth record, and as a consequence, also on any birth certificate. Bedivere (talk) 19:15, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, here is her Chilean birth certificate, just requested. I have to note that even when someone may renounce their Chilean nationality (and citizenship), it may be recovered at any time by requesting at either the Civil Registry or any Chilean consulate the removal of the renouncing subinscription/annotation. Bedivere (talk) 19:21, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This certainly an interesting find. I have to ask, though, if you could please explain how a birth certificate from 2004 indicates that she maintains Chilean citizenship today. The fecha de emisión gives 26 April 2022, but I assume that just indicates the date in which you accessed the file. I'm not familiar with Chilean documentation, so perhaps you could point out the location of the subinscription showing Salvatierra's current nationality and not, say, the nationalities she would have held when this certificate was issued in 2004. I should also note that for this article to pass as a good article, any reference to her regaining her nationality is probably going to require a non-primary source. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 20:33, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
She was registered a Chilean national in 2004. The certificate I uploaded was issued today. It is based on the original record, including all annotations it may have (it has none). The certificate is not the same as the birth record, from which the first is based, which may still be obtained for about three dollars, online, at the Civil Registry website, but from my knowledge, it only contains some additional information to that of the certificate (such as the specific time of birth, the specific place of birth, the age of their parents, the name of the person who requested the inscription, to name some). Had she renounced her nationality, that would be included in the certificate and in the original record. Now, finding a non-primary source would be troublesome since the media reported unanimously she renounced her citizenship (which she hasn't). Bedivere (talk) 20:56, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have an idea. Just for you to be sure about this controversy. I will make a request to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs asking about Salvatierra's presumed renouncing of her citizenship and what's the status of such request, if it was ever made. It will take about a month for them to respond, maybe less if we're lucky. Bedivere (talk) 20:59, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I commend you for going above and beyond for this. An official statement on the matter is about as direct as we'll probably get without having to make inferences based on her birth certificate. I'll await for their response and edit the article accordingly. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 22:15, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, I didn't want to do the following myself without telling you first. I wanted to change the wording of the phrase "For some time, she was also registered with the Chilean Electoral Service (SERVEL), authorizing her to vote in the Peñalolén electoral district of the Santiago Metropolitan Region". Salvatierra is still a registered voter in Peñalolén as of right now. You can check this by yourself on http://consulta.servel.cl, and inserting her RUN 21442684-6. (As a result, too, she is still a Chilean citizen). Bedivere (talk) 04:56, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
2021 is the most recent direct source for her presence on an electoral registry. Having readers enter her number into a website falls too deeply into Wikipedia:No original research for my liking. I saw that you added an extra sentence mentioning her birth certificate and linking to the Wikimedia image. Personally, I also think that may fall within original research but I'd say leave it as its for now. Alternatively, given that you've found a significant amount of evidence, you could theoretically submit your findings to a Bolivian newspaper such as Página Siete. If they choose to publish it, all of this could easily be added. Whether or not you'd want to put that kind of spotlight on a currently pregnant mother-to-be is up to you I suppose. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 05:48, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That's correct. I didn't suggest, though, to add the Consulta.servel site as a reference, but rather, rewording the mentioned phrase to imply they are still registered as a voter in 2022. It currently suggest they are not ("for some time, she was..."). I can't think of any other way to use that site as a reference, though. Bedivere (talk) 17:36, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs responded yesterday (Tuesday) there are two documents related to the matter: * Oficio Reservado 8/2019 of the General Consulate of Chile in La Paz, which has attached the declaration of Salvatierra renouncing her nationality. It contains her Bolivian and Chilean birth certificate, formularies completed and signed by Salvatierra, copies of her Bolivian passport and Chilean ID card. * Oficio (DISER-DECIV) Público N.° 4850, by Subdirector of Consular Services, 2020, directed at the chief of Nationality Section, Department of Migration, which sends the documentation included in the aforementioned Oficio Reservado N.° 8/2019. I was given access to the 2020 document, but not to the documents it had attached. The 2020 document signed by Lorena Guzman Núñez requests an "Acta Literal" (literal act / a copy of the birth registry) with the annotation of the nationality renunciation, "as soon as possible, in order to notify the interested person". The birth certificate makes no mention of such annotation, though. As a result, it seems that Salvatierra did renounce to her Chilean nationality, but it hasn't been legalized yet. She hasn't so far requested to annul such renunciation. Bedivere (talk) 04:33, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Aha, wonderful. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that it all came down to slow Latin American bureaucracy—I remember the absolute slog of dealing with Bolivian customs back in the day. So she did renounce her nationality but it just hasn't been processed yet. I'd appreciate if you could forward what the Foreign Ministry sent to you to me, I have some uses for it. Aside from that, what do you think we do now? For intents and purposes, it appears she is no longer a Chilean citizen. Should we just remove the note on the article? Krisgabwoosh (talk) 04:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well, legally she still is a Chilean citizen, besides the fact that she obviously does not want to be one. I think we should remove the note once Salvatierra actually loses the nationality. I can send the censored Oficio of 2020. Bedivere (talk) 15:17, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I imagine she might remained qualified until the Chilean government finally gets around the annulling her citizenship. Does Chile automatically register voters or are they required to register themselves as in the U.S.? Krisgabwoosh (talk) 03:47, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello! I love your work on the 3rd Plurinational Legislative Assembly of Bolivia page! Congratulations on getting it to GA status as well! While I was reading it, I came across the "Special seats" that are in the Chamber of deputies, with no explanation as to what they are. This isn't a call to action by any means (though it could be a way to expand the article if you see fit) but more of a question as to what they are per se. I would love to know more about them, how they are elected, and what they represent! Ornithoptera (talk) 01:33, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ornithoptera: Firstly, thank you very much for your kind words. As for special seats, they refer to the seven "special indigenous circumscriptions" in the county. They were established with the promulgation of the 2009 Constitution. Though they're technically "districts" each one makes up an entire department, with only Chuquisaca and Potosí not having one. According to article 146 of the Constitution, these districts exist "only in rural areas and in those departments in which these rural native indigenous peoples and nations constitute a minority of the population". From what I understand, they're meant to give minority indigenous groups representation, with only some 100,000 people of Bolivia's 10 million population being authorized to vote in them. That is, specific members of minority indigenous groups in each department are the only ones who can vote here. You can read a full summary of special circumscriptions here.[3] Personally, I don't feel like an explanation of them really fits in the article on the 3rd assembly. However, an explanation of them should definitely be included somewhere, likely on either the Plurinational Legislative Assembly or Chamber of Deputies articles. At the moment, however, both of those are quite barebones and I like to fully rewrite articles rather than tweak only certain sections. More importantly, I don't as of yet feel fully confident writing about it, as I haven't done quite in depth research on how exactly they work, whose authorized to vote in them, etc. Anyway, hopefully that was helpful! Thanks again for the kind comment. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 02:14, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for the in-depth response! I really do find topics such as these fascinating and I do appreciate the interesting amount of detail being put into it. I've really learned a lot. I do look forward to your eventual rewrites of those topics, if you are able to, keep me in mind and I would love to give it a read through! You could potentially add it to this article: Reserved political positions if you see fit! I think this is a genuinely fascinating fact and I genuinely appreciate the illumination on the matter! Thank you so much, and you are very welcome, your hard work is definitely appreciated! Ornithoptera (talk) 06:31, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Wanted to explain my quickfail of Jeanine Áñez at GA before you read it: the page is simply a bit too large to consider without a split. Some of this is simply because events have taken place since you nominated it for GA in March. I think the Presidency and (possibly) Arrest and prosecution sections would make for GAs of their own, and I think that would help the parent page to be a bit more reasonably sized. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:39, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Totally agree! My original intent was indeed to eventually split prosecution into its own article, though admittedly I had hoped to have gotten around to it sooner. Given recent expansion (and edit warring) I had actually been thinking about withdrawing the nomination (the only thing stopping me was my inability to figure out how, lol), so I appreciate the quickfail. I'll renominate the article once the prosecution section (at the very least) has been split and also meets GA standards. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 05:11, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you for your comments on my proposed DYK for Edward Rand. I would like to enter the changes you suggested, but I'm not sure how to via source editing. Is it possible if you could do so or how I might be able to? GuardianH (talk) 17:00, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The added citations needed to the actual article can both be done using the visual editor. Since the nomination page is a template, it can only be source edited. In the source editor, all you have to do is locate the hook and change the parts stated in my comment the same as you would with the visual editor. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 17:51, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, I will try to do so. Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on the article itself? I have been the only one who has been writing it so far, and I would like your thoughts as a first-time reader. GuardianH (talk) 23:47, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Reads pretty well. I would not that there are some sections where a citation is followed by the same citation. In this case, only the latter citation is necessary. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 23:52, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Hey Kris! Great work on Bolivian people, I'll say it in Spanish for better understanding: has hecho una labor muy encomiable.
I saw this edit today on Salvatierra's article and I have to tell you that it is inappropriate to imply she was a Chilean national from age of fourteen; she was a Chilean from birth, as the child of a Chilean national; Chilean law contemplates ius sanguini. The 2019 date is also doubtful; she declared her renounciation that year, but as we talked about before, such renounciation has not been completed and in fact, she was eligible to vote last 4 September in the national plebiscite. She obviously remains a Chilean citizen. Perhaps the 2019 date could remain but clarifying that, although she renounced the citizenship that year, it hasn't been legally formalized.
Hi! Thank you for the kind words. I'm actually in the midst of transculding our previous discussion on the topic to Salvatierra's talk page, with my reasoning for keeping the resignation date to 2019. As for your main concern, I can explain the issue. While Chilean law grants citizenship to all people born to Chilean nationals, the Bolivian Constitution did not allow for dual citizenship until 2004. See Carlos Mesa#Constitutional reform. This explains why her mother only registered her Chilean citizenship when she was fourteen (precisely in 2004). Krisgabwoosh (talk) 01:05, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi there, Krisgabwoosh. I'm glad to see you've added the Women in Red user box to your user page, especially as you have created a number of well developed biographies of women. If you would like to become a member, you can do so by linking to "Join Women in Red" on our WikiProject page. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 18:12, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi. Your María Elva Pinckert hook is queued up to run in a couple of days, but there's one thing that needs to be fixed. DYK rules require the fact in the hook to have a citation at the end of the sentence in the article, which I guess would be In 1999, Pinckert moved into local politics, motivated by the murder of her brother, who was unable to receive the necessary intensive care due to the lack of medical units in the region. Could you add that please? Thanks. -- RoySmith(talk)02:38, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi! I saw your comment in the GA nomination review for Tomas Frias. I wanted ask you personally if you might participate given your extensive knowledge of Bolivian history and to ensure at least two people agree that it is an article worthy of the GA status. CondeDeHolderness (talk)
@CondeDeHolderness: I'd be happy to observe the review process. I hope that I did not come out as accusatory, but given this article's recent history, hopefully you'll understand my suspicion. Thanks for reaching out! Krisgabwoosh (talk) 07:18, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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I really like your articles on Bolivian politicians, it is great to see such an underrepresented area on Wikipedia get some attention! Have you considered adding English translations for the sources you are using, since most of them are in Spanish? I.e. using the "trans-title" field of the Cite news template. This would help a lot for people like me who don't speak Spanish =) Thanks for your work so far and I hope we will see many more articles on the subject from you! 37.197.180.150 (talk) 09:21, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the positive feedback! In terms of title translations, I never really considered using them, but if people find it useful, I guess I could start adding them in newer articles. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 09:39, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi there, Krisgabwoosh, and thanks for creating such an effective user page. The way in which you display progress on the articles you have created is a great idea. Congratulations too on the high standard of work you have carried out on all those Bolivian politicians. My attention was drawn to the page as a result of the Women in Red tag you added to your user boxes. I see you are also an active member of Women in Green. Your activity in connection with these two projects is certainly helping to improve coverage of women on the English Wikipedia. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 13:29, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for you kind words! Bolivia is one of just two countries where women make up a majority of the legislature, so joining the Women in Red Project just seemed like a natural fit. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 17:48, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi Krisgabwoosh, I hope you're doing well 😁 Congratulations on even more GA's, it's awesome to see Bolivian coverage on the project improve so much. I wanted to ask if you had ever thought about applying for Autopatrolled rights? You can read more about it on the link, but the TL;DR of it is that the articles you create are automatically approved, and don't need to be looked at by a new page reviewer, cutting down on the extensive page review backlog in the process. You get no extra abilities, and you do nothing different, it's just convenient for reviewers to not have to look through more new articles if yours are consistently good. You have far surpassed the minimum of 25 decent articles to be approved, so I think you have a pretty good shot at getting it. No obligation though, but I thought I'd mention it. Cheers! Johnson524 (Talk!) 11:59, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting! Didn't know this was a thing. Admittedly, I'll miss the kind comments User:SunDawn and others occasionally leave when reviewing articles, but if it'll reduce all of your workloads, I'd be happy to apply. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 15:35, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, absolutely! SunDawn's nice comments are certainly a shot of adrenaline on the project, so I'd argue that he creates the only downside for this permission lol. My reply here is a little late, so I'd also like to congratulate you on getting approved! Looking forward to keeping up with your work, cheers! Johnson524 (Talk!) 01:57, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello. English Wikipedia has treated Bolivian elections as double simultaneous vote elections going back to 1979 (i.e. with the presidency and Congress elected by a single ballot, hence only having a single results table). However, looking at the results on Spanish Wikipedia, it appears this isn't the case?
Spanish Wikipedia has full DSV results until the 1993 election, then from the 1997 to 2009 elections, the presidency and the "Plurinominal" seats in the Chamber being elected on one ballot, but voters having a second ballot for "Uninominal" seats. Then in 2009, it seems there were separate ballots for the president, plurinominal and uninominal seats in the Chamber (although still not clear how the Senate was elected), but in 2014 it reverts to the 1997–2009 system. 2019 is unclear and then 2020 seems to be separate votes for all three groups (with the Senate elected based on the Plurinominal votes for the Chamber as in 2009.
Do you know what the true character of the elections is? I think we probably need separate results tables for the presidency and Congress from 1997 onwards? Cheers, Number5718:24, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
According to this file in spanish about the 2020 election, page 45 "En cada Departamento, se eligen la mitad de los Diputados en circunscripciones uninominales. La otra mitad se elige en circunscripciones plurinominales departamentales, de las listas encabezadas por los candidatos a Presidente, Vicepresidente y Senadores de la República.". It seem to me there is only two vote, one for the constituencies seats of the lower house, and the other for the president, upper house and proportional seats of the lower house. I have vagues memories that in 2020 there were separates preliminary results, then it was as above in the final results. But I'm not 100% sure. The spanish wiki do tend to stop updating many election at preliminary results, by the way, even those of spanish speaking countries, so it's surprisingly unreliable even with those. One other possibility which come to mind would be that voters abroad would be able to vote for one of the election but not the other because of some constitutional rule. This does happen in Uruguay with their referendum held the same day as others election, for example. But I couldn't find info about it for Bolivia. I tend to think that it is two ballots ever since 1997 and the constituency seats, with the different results you mentioned coming from a lack of proper update of the pages. But I can't say for sure. Having a spanish fluent user help here would be great.--Aréat (talk) 19:12, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, yeah, this was something I've been grappling with tackling recently as well. In essence, elections before 1997 only have the one result, with seats in both chambers of parliament allocated based on the presidential vote total. However, from 1997 on, half of the seats in the lower chamber were made subject to direct suffrage through single-member constituencies ("uninominal" seats, as opposed to "plurinominal" or party-list seats), creating two vote totals (or over 60 if we're counting each individual race).
Save for the addition of seven indigenous seats from 2009, the system has pretty much remained unchanged since 1997, so I'm not exactly sure what you're seeing in the 2009 or 2020 election tables that would indicate a change. I see what's going on! So, citizens voting from abroad are included in their own "district," which is essentially any country that isn't Bolivia. What this means is that, while overseas citizens can vote for president, that vote isn't included in parliamentary calculations, as they're not technically living in any department (Keep in mind that party-list seats are, of course, allocated based on the percentage attained in each department, not the national vote overall. Overseas citizens, then, are in their own "department" that has no seats, if it makes more sense to look at it that way). In that sense, Spanish Wikipedia for the 2009 election is using the national + foreign vote total for the presidential table, just the national vote total for the party-list table, and then the single-member vote total.
In a sense, I suppose that this is technically correct, as the extra votes from abroad don't affect the distribution of parliamentary seats. Whether this merits an extra table is something that, I guess, will have to be decided on.
To summarize:
Presidents are elected based on national + foreign vote totals.
Senators and party-list (plurinominal) deputies are elected based on national vote totals in each department.
Single-member (uninominal) deputies are elected based on national vote totals in each constituency.
And for reference, Bolivia's electoral court keeps a continually updated Electoral Atlas containing every election since 1979. I always consult this for election results.
Thanks – so basically we need separate presidential and Congressional results tables from 1997 onwards to account for the different voting method. Cheers, Number5707:53, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, I once made edits to the Wikipedia page of the President of Bolivia, where I reverted the indefinite reeleccion and wrote that only one reelection citing that the Inter-American court rejected unlimited reelection as a human right, but you were right, the Inter-American Court's ruling was advisory and didn't apply within Bolivia and, on the contrary, the Constitutional Tribunal ratified the right to indefinite reelection in January 2023 (https://eldeber.com.bo/pais/ratifican-que-la-reeleccion-indefinida-es-un-derecho-humano-pese-a-que-la-corte-idh-lo-desestimo_312223). In Spanish Wikipedia you will notice that both the President and the Vice-president still are labeled as only one reelection allowed, I tried to edit the pages with the source above and even left a long explanation on the Talk pages, but users Anton Francho (https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Ant%C3%B3n_Francho) and Dimartz (https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Dimartz) both reverted my edits and even threatened to suspend anyone attempting to claim that indefinite reelection is allowed (arguing that the Constitution explicitly allows only one reelection). I already sent them talk page messages, but haven't responded. Hope you can help me convince them. Belson 303 (talk) 18:18, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, @Belson 303:; I appreciate you reaching out. Although I'm, unfortunately, not involved enough on Spanish Wikipedia to aid you directly, I can hopefully give some advice that will lead you in the right direction. What you have here appears to be a classic case of WP:EDITWARRING – and one, if I understand correctly, where a user with administrative powers is threating to misuse them.
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Hi @Golden:, yes, I'll be sure to get to it by tomorrow. The ongoing backlog drive coupled with my high nomination count has led to quite a few concurrently open reviews, and I've been trying to address each one at a time. Thank you for your patience. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 00:38, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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So regarding your review of the Jews in the civil rights movement proposal. I think you're right ALT1 is a better hook :). I think we should go for 50%. What do you think? Homerethegreat (talk) 12:10, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Homerethegreat: Hi! Good job on the new article, btw. In terms of the hook: for more comprehensive changes, wherein basically the entire thing is rewritten or a new one is added, its generally required to simply add another alt (the same way ALT1 is formatted on your own hook; a new one would be ALT2, then ALT3, etc.).
Since this is just a simple grammatical fix, it shouldn't be too controversial to just edit the template and make the change yourself. I'd also recommend including the word "were" within the linked portion, alongside "Jews" (... laws were Jews?) Krisgabwoosh (talk) 15:40, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Homerethegreat: One last thing, you have one uncited paragraph at the very beginning of the article (immediately under "Overview") which I evidently missed the first time around. A successful DYK requires all claims to be cited. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 20:07, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, someone added a new paragraph. Thanks for the heads up! I added sources where missing. I'm really flattered you think it has the making of a WP:Good article, I'll submit it :). And of course thanks for the help with the DYK procedures :)! Homerethegreat (talk) 21:13, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No problem! I'd have to get acquainted with the rules – a GA reviewer can't approve that same article's DYK hook – but if it's not the case the other way around, then maybe I'll review the nom myself. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 21:59, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Again thanks for the help! By the way, planning on writing an article on Jewish women in Jazz (I love Jazz), very interesting topic which sadly is not well known. If it interests you I'll post you a link once I get around to finishing it :). Homerethegreat (talk) 19:14, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, that's a quick turnaround for a pretty well-researched article; props to you. Tell me, are you new to Wikipedia? Your account is few years old but I saw that your user page was just created last month. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 07:22, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I only created my userpage last month, beforehand I preferred to not reveal much. But in recent months I felt a bit attacked by some users (I imagine other users who deal with Jewish issues feel the same) so I felt forced to open a userpage that explained that I don't only deal directly with Israel related issues but also with culture, arts which interests me far more than other issues I just feel I have no choice but to deal with... Homerethegreat (talk) 09:53, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
AI upscaling software should generally not be used to increase the resolution or quality of an old or low-resolution image. [...] If an AI-upscaled image is used in an article, this fact should be noted in its caption.
Wikimedia Commons also requires that AI-upscaled image pages be clearly described or categorised to state this, in the same way that any other manipulated or colorised image would be. (I've gone through your uploads there and automatically added a template to the uploads that appeared to be AI-manipulated and/or higher resolution than the Flickr source, please correct me and remove the templates if I've misinterpreted any of them.) Belbury (talk) 14:53, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Belbury: I don't mind the tags being added to the images (although the retouched template might be more suitable, as they're not just straight AI work). However, I'm not a fan of how some of the files are proposed to be renamed. They are, strictly speaking, still the "official portrait" – just an upscaled version. Adding the word "upscaled" at the end, the same way the unedited files have the "original" at the end, should suffice. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 22:16, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello! I hope you’re doing well! I wanted to let you know that I have made quite some progress with the catalogue, hopefully will be done by the end of this month.
I also wanted to take you up on your earlier offer, that of giving editing advice. Im trying to get a good article, the article being José María Linares. I’ve looked at the criteria and think I have at least hit some targets. Would you mind giving the article a look and giving me pointers, what you think? It took quite some time to assemble it but I know it’s not quite perfect.
At any rate, let me know what you think. Your help, considering your experience, would be a gold mine to me.
Ok, I've gone ahead and taken a look at the article. If you would like a different perspective here or in the future, considering listing this or other articles for Wikipedia:Peer review.
Right off the bat, this article is a good first effort – but I don't believe it meets GA criteria quite yet. I'll enumerate what could be done differently; I like being thorough, so I'll be as exhaustive as possible without getting too much into the nitty-gritty.
Dates: See WP:DATEOVERVIEW. In most cases, you can use the date format you feel most comfortable with, which seems for you to be the American MDY. The rule is just to keep it consistent – so either 1 January 2000 or January 1, 2000, but not both in the same article. The Linares article currently suffers from this mismatch, which will need to be corrected.
Wikipedia also asks that articles on English topics use the country's preferred format – MDY for American articles and DMY for British ones. Since Bolivia is not an English-speaking country, this rule does not apply – though I personally prefer to use DMY as it is the format used in Bolivia. I'd ask that you do, too, for consistency across multiple articles, but it's ultimately your choice on the matter.
Citations: Articles that frequently cite different pages of the same work benefit from the addition of condensed footnotes, as seen here.[1] At present, the book El dictador Linares: Biografía is cited twenty-seven separate times in its entirety; citing it just once at the bottom – with in-line footnotes directing to it – would suffice. Take a look at the article on Simón Bolívar as an example of what I'm referring to: the author employs the use of footnotes for in-line citations, which all direct to the same book citation.
This method has several benefits. Mainly, it's both cleaner and easier to read: it's less difficult to find the page numbers when it's not buried at the end of repeated book information. It also allows you to cite multiple works using one reference – refer again to the Bolívar article.
There are a couple templates that allow you to add footnotes. I prefer Template:Sfn and Template:Sfnm but Template:Harvnb gets the job done as well – up to you. You can use headers to divide footnotes from works cited: I typically go for Notes > Footnotes > Bibliography.
These two are some of the immediate things that jumped out to me on first look through. I do have more notes and pointers regarding prose that I'll add in the coming days, but I thought I'd jot these ones down now to get you started in the right direction. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 05:09, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is great input. I’ll get working on these suggestions right away!
Good job on converting the references to footnotes; that looks much cleaner. For the future: remember to use "pp=" rather than "p=" when a footnote is citing multiple pages – those page ranges should also be separated by an en dash– rather than a hyphen-. For the footnote to work correctly, it must also contain the surnames of all the authors.
With that out of the way, I would like to move on to the prose of the article. See MOS:BIO for an exhaustive list of general guidelines for biographies.
Context: Generally speaking, biographies should be focused squarely on the subject of the article. While broader context is helpful, try to keep it brief and relevant; if you wish to expand on the historical situation at the time, perhaps try creating a dedicated article or adding to an existing one. On this point, it's immediately noticeable that large chunks of this article don't seem particularly related to Linares himself, and there are entire sections that do not even mention his name – all of "Belzu resigns" and large paragraphs in "Relations with Peru", among others.
Quotes: This article also heavily employs quotes – which lack citations – particularly very lenghy quotes. There's nothing wrong with that, per se, so long as – again – it's relevant to the subject of the article. Some quotes, like the section-filling one under "Physical appearance", would do better to be integrated into the text in your own words. Others, like the long diatribe under "Belzu resigns", probably belong in Belzu's article rather than here – and even then, could be condensed.
The quote under "Relentless plotter" is probably the one with the best argument for keeping. It's possible that you could integrate it into the text in your own words, but I get the impression that much of the information related is wrapped up in myth and legend, in which case it's best not to phrase it as statements of fact. If it is kept, it could stand to abridged by skipping much of the fluff. If you're not familiar, an ellipsis ... can be used to indicate that you are omitting parts of a quote.
For example: "I went on a walk on the beach and came across a magical unicorn" could be shortened to "I went on a walk... and came across a magical unicorn". You can even use square brackets to change certain words, so long as they don't change the meaning being conveyed in the quote. For example: "I went on a walk" can become "[He] went on a walk". Try seeing if you can employ ellipses to shorten the quote under "Relentless plotter" to be less overly long.
Wikivoice: See WP:NPOV. This article could do with being a bit more descriptive in its prose. In particular, there are many parts of this article that mention events wrapped in legend and myth, wherein it would be best to either name who made the claim, clarify the event's validity, or omit it entirely. An early example comes in the second paragraph:
"It is said that his mother did not allow Linares to leave their home, standing at the entrance. The young man jumped over his mother... Although this story is likely exaggerated, it is true that Linares..."
There are several things that can be done differently here. For starters, much of the information is highly mythicized. The article makes up for this by using odd-sounding phrases: "it is true" being one of them. Odd assertions like "this moment serves as Linares' political baptism" (Did it? Says who?) also should not be here. If we wanted to be purely descriptive, we could omit all the conjecture entirely and state something along the lines of:
"Linares was 17 years old on 13 July 1825, when Potosí revolted in support of Antonio José de Sucre and Francisco O'Connor, who were approaching the city in their campaign for independence. Linares participated in support of the revolutionaries[a] during the uprising; after the revolution, he continued to support...".
On the other hand, this doesn't mean that all myths and conjecture must be omitted. We just need to work it better into the text and properly differentiate truth from legend – which, in fairness, you do put some effort into doing already. For example, the phrase "it is said" immediately jumps out as something that should be scrutinized. You would do better to actually name who exactly said – or at the very least recounted – the tale. Something along the lines of:
"According to some accounts, related by [name of the author you got the info from], Linares 'rushed'[b] to join the revolutionaries. Upon being prevented from leaving by his mother, Linares pushed passed her, rifle in hand, and went to join the fight in the streets."
It is also not clear whether the phrase "this story is likely exaggerated" is your opinion or the sources. Never editorialize your own opinion, and if you are citing someone else's opinion, always name them:
"[Author] states that versions of this story are likely exaggerated."
For a different example on differentiating between fact, fiction, and the fuzzy in-between, try reading the section "Apparent suicide" in the article on Germán Busch. It's not perfect, but I believe it's a good enough example on how one can relay information that most of the public was no privy to without citing them as plain fact or fiction. There's a lot of quoting witnesses at the scene; phrases like "Reportedly, Matilde was awoken" and "Carmona reported that he"; and mentions of particular claims made by historical scholars:
"Contemporary historians such as Brockmann state that the narrative of suicide is the most maintainable" rather than "The narrative of suicide is the most maintainable". On reads like an expert opinion, the other reads like your own.
That's it for now. Take another look at the article and see if you can spot areas where the prose could be tidied up based on the above suggestions. I'll add my own edits to help you along. Hope this helps! Krisgabwoosh (talk) 10:38, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the edits you have made! And I will start working on this asap! I appreciate your help and advice.
Thanks a lot for your contributions on Bolivian articles! I would like to ask if there is a online database for Bolivian cabinet ministers, their party affiliation, their professions, their biologies and their pictures. What I could only find are some gazettes that tell about who are appointed as ministers without describing their affiliation, so I will be very very much appreciated if I may know the party each cabinet minister is from! Robmarotiz (talk) 16:57, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey! Thanks for reaching out with your question. For me, the main source I consult on the topic of ministers is the book Presidentes de Bolivia: Entre urnas y fusiles by Carlos Mesa.[a] The work contains an index of all government ministers; it includes professions, offices held, and the range of dates they served. I usually cross-reference this by taking the date a minister is said to have assumed office and searching for the relevant decree outlining their appointment in the Gaceta Oficial del Estado.
Neither of these two sources contain party affiliations, which is unfortunate. In those cases, you generally will need to research each individual minister to find what party they were a member of, which is easy or difficult depending on how prominent they were. There are some rules that could be helpful, though:
For most ministers before the Campero Cabinet (1825–1880), party affiliation won't usually come up, as political parties weren't well-established.
Cabinets formed during periods of single-party rule are mostly composed of ministers from just that party (Conservative (1888–1899), Liberal (1899–1920), MNR (1952–1964), MAS (2006–present))
Many ministers who served during the 1979–2006 period were also members of parliament, in which case you may try consulting the Diccionario biográfico de parlamentarios by Salvador Romero [es] for their party affiliation. I actually have already indexed all members of parliament listed in that book – along with their party affiliation – on a user page that you can consult.
In terms of photographs, that is something you will have to locate on your own, by searching the web and the like. I know that for foreign ministers, you can find full biographies with relevant photographs by visiting this page and searching the now-dead reference links in Archive.today (link here). For gender, it's usually obvious based simply on the name – to make it easier, the first woman minister doesn't pop up until Alcira Espinoza in 1969.
I don't live in the Americas, so it would be very difficult for me to get a copy of Mr.Mesa's book. While I will ask my friends living in the Americas to find a copy, could you help me scan the relevant part of the book so that I can get along with the part I need earlier? I would appreciate it even more. Robmarotiz (talk) 06:59, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here's a link to purchase the book if you wish to. For individual scans, just let me know which cabinet you're working on, and I can see about sending you the relevant pages.
The press does not have a way of shipping into mainland China, so there isn't a direct way for me to purchase the paperback version. If you may, could you send me the pages about MNR presidencies during 1952-1964 and the military presidencies from Barrientos to Banzer? Robmarotiz (talk) 09:48, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Robmarotiz: Ok. I've uploaded the relevant pages to the Internet Archive. Let me know when you've received it. I will delete the page after that, so make sure to download it as a PDF. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 17:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for disturbing you again, but after reading the pages you sent and the official gazettes, I found out that occassionally the cabinet resigned en masse, which is quite rare in presidential regimes, although I found the same practices in the histories of Peru and Chile. That being said, Peru has a clear definition of President of Council of Ministers while Chile made its Minister of the Interior a pseudo one during the Parliamentary Republic period and had the practice abolished after the period. Why would it happen throughout the Bolivian history, when Bolivia does not have a PCM, or in other words, the only person that could preside over the cabinet is the president? Robmarotiz (talk) 05:49, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's difficult to precisely say what may have caused a cabinet to resign en masse at any give time. But here are a couple theories that may help:
Presidential transition / coup d'état: In this instance, the change in administration would have been followed by a reorganization of the cabinet. This is especially the case when the transition of power was not peaceful.
Cabinet reshuffle: Presidents have been known to entirely reshuffle the composition of their cabinet. Evo Morales, notably, requested the resignation of his entire ministerial staff every year, in order to ratify or replace each portfolio. Whether any of the presidents listed were known to do this also is not something I'm currently aware of.
As a side note: Length of tenure among Bolivian government ministers is exceptionally short. Cabinet turnaround is quite common, especially when compared to U.S. administrations, where a single secretary may stay in office for a full two terms. I suspect that the form of appointing ministers may have something to do with this: Bolivia's president is free to appoint and dismiss any minister as they please; other countries often require the legislature to ratify new appointments.
Major historical event: Historical events not linked to transitions of power may cause a cabinet to resign. Hugo Banzer, for example, dismissed all non-military members of his cabinet after breaking his alliance with the MNR and FSB. If you're looking for sources stating what may have occurred, try consulting the website of the La Paz Municipal Library, which has issues of El Diario from 1951 to 1954 and Presencia [es] from 1964 to 1966.
Book error: While a good resource, be aware that the book does contain some errors. The most obvious one in the pages I sent to you is that the ministers in the Paz Estenssoro (3) Cabinet are said to have taken and left office on 6 August 1964, when they actually left office on 4 November 1964, after Barrientos overthrew them.[b]
I noticed that some of the resigns did not have a clear reason given, for example, on June 10 of 1960, according to this gazette that reappointed ministers to all positions, a resign en masse must have happened. However, compared to the ministers in the cabinet beforehand which you could find in Señor Mesa's book, the reshuffled cabinet only had 4 new ministers, making it not a major reshuffle. On the other hand, as far as I could tell, Bolivia didn't have anything vital on the previous days besides Paz's reelection to the presidency on June 5. Why would there be a resign en masse when the reshuffle was not a major one? Robmarotiz (talk) 06:30, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In that instance, it is likely that the president simply requested that the ministers hand in their resignations so that he could decide whether to accept or deny them. It's more of a formality than anything. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 08:09, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Notes
^There is no online version of this book that I could find, but I do own my own copy. I'm happy to scan and send images of any relevant pages you might need.
^Note the discrepancy: the dates both say "6 Ago. 1964" but the "DIAS" column lists "90", indicating the error.
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Sorry for potential disturbance, but are there internet archives for historic Bolivian newspapers like El Diario or La Calle? Perhaps it would be possible to track down unknown historical people through those works. Robmarotiz (talk) 11:14, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is actually an interesting question. So, archives of old Bolivian newspapers are a bit hard to come by, but there are some institutions that have partially digitized their collections.
The repository of the Higher University of San Andrés has some old newspapers from the mid-1800s, and also hosts several historical documents if you can finesse its god-awful search system.
Those are the only three that I currently know about. I'm in the process of uploading most of these scans to the Internet Archive for preservation, so you can always check my page there to see if I've made any new discoveries. I'm almost finished uploading all the editions of El Diario, so you might have an easier time searching for what you're looking for there.
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