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User talk:Irpen
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Well, self-awarding legitimacy, or lack of it, should not be affected by the fact whether or not it is accompanied by a rejection of a different award, should it? Anyway, I am extremely modest, at least as much as you are, as you could see. I only displayed a ribbon at my user page. Please note, that I was awarded an Order of B. Kh. 1st class skipping the lower two classes. As you can read from an article, 1st class is "awarded to front or army commanders for successful direction of combat operations that led to the liberation of a region or town inflicting heavy casualties on the enemy." I hope our enemies would not recover from such heavy casualties and no one will ever challenge from now on that our cabal rules the Wikipedia. Ура! --Irpen 05:26, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
WołodarkaOk, Irpen, let us end this whole dispute. If you please, just explain on my talk page how is it that the Russians achieved nothing and were defeated yet the Poles did not win. Halibutt 11:34, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
Halibutt, I did respond at that time. Please check dates. To what you wrote later, there is nothing new to add and I view that I said more than enough. Since there are no new questions, there were no new answers for some time. The note about the dispute should stay unless other editors, not just you, views them unwarranted. Not everyohe has to agree, but there has to be an overwhelming majority. So far, to you were rejecting proposals from three (!) editors and insist on your version. I spent to much effort on this to abandon it now. Unless I see that several editors view my position unjustifued, I see no reason to withdraw my objections. --Irpen 19:29, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
it is easy to figure percentage of speakers
Ilya K 18:53, 6 October 2005 (UTC) I know about the census. But there is a caviat. Please take a look at Ukrainian language#Independence and modern era (last paragraph) as well as talk:Ukrainian language#Percentage of speakers. --Irpen 18:58, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
I am sorry, internet problems :(. I got it now. The links are indeed useful. I should use them for ua-language article because I only had Kiev numbers at hand when I was writing this section. However, please note that this numbers prove that the statement at ua-L that "Ukrainopohones became a minority in their nation" removed by AndriyK was factually correct. We should return it there then, shouldn't we? Thanks for the useful link and for your participation. I am glad to work together on more article. --Irpen 19:13, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! These numbers seem sensible. I can't do much more right now. Please keep an eye on Ukrainization because it got totally disrupted. Also, I left some comments to your recent edits at talk. Actually, you may see that I was against this article to be started at this point because it mostly duplicates the section from the history of ua-L. But once it was started I was just trying to see it not going into excesses and moderating it. I hope it can be made encyclpedic. The wholesale delitions by one user will just make it slower and will not accomplish anything. Regards, --Irpen 19:25, 6 October 2005 (UTC) http://www.dif.org.ua/publics/doc.php?action=11/us5 Чи доводилось Вам за останні 12 місяців стикатися з випадками дискримінації (утиску прав та інтересів) щодо людей таких національностей? e1. Чи доводилось Вам за останні 12 місяців стикатися з випадками дискримінації (утиску прав та інтересів) щодо… Українців? 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 1. Так 6.8 7.2 9.2 6.6 9.6 8.5 8.4 12.6 7.1 7.3 6.4 7.2 2. Ні 88.1 92.5 90.4 93.1 89.6 90.4 91.0 87.1 92.6 92.3 93.2 92.7 Не відповіди 5.1 0.3 0.4 0.3 0.9 1.1 0.6 0.3 0.4 0.4 0.4 0.2 e2. Чи доводилось Вам за останні 12 місяців стикатися з випадками дискримінації (утиску прав та інтересів) щодо… Росіян? 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 1. Так 8.6 9.5 9.3 7.4 8.8 8.5 5.7 10.4 5.8 5.9 4.4 6.1 2. Ні 85.7 90.0 90.1 92.2 90.2 90.6 93.6 89.1 93.6 93.4 95.2 93.8 Не відповіди 5.7 0.5 0.6 0.4 1.0 0.9 0.6 0.5 0.6 0.7 0.3 0.2 So nobody's complaining. Ilya K 19:58, 6 October 2005 (UTC) more http://www.livejournal.com/community/ukr_nationalism/324195.html Ilya K 20:08, 6 October 2005 (UTC) Thanks for the useful links. I will be happy to use them. Could you repair Ukrainization (I have server problems right now and can mostly edit talks only). It is a total mess not just content-wise but broken pieces too. Also, you may want to revise the intro in view of my comments at its talk. If you can't do it, I will do that myself later. However, the broken pieces and pieces of paragraphs have to be fixed asap. --Irpen 20:22, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
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Apology !מזל טוב from Izehar Hello Irpen, I've been thinking that since the "bad tempered anon bickering" incident, there has been a gap between us. I would like to apologise for having been on the wrong side of WP:CIV and hope you accept this barnstar for patching up. Izehar 23:12, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
amusing entryIrpen !!! Are you ukrainian nazionalist ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.22.217.116 (talk • contribs)
Дуже дякую Thank you again for you help today. Next time Bonny comes back, I'll know who to contact! ;) —Khoikhoi 01:16, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
The good place to consider would be regional notice boards, like the urgent announcement sections of Portal:Russia/New article announcements, Portal:Ukraine/New article announcements and, yes, a Wikipedia:Romanian Wikipedians' notice board. Some Romanian users feel ashamed by such compatriots and may help as well. Cheers, --Irpen 01:46, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Carpatho-RusynOK, I added the Carpatho -Rusyn Society article to the "Ukrainian diaspora" category. Expect some comments from Pittsburgh. Many people there had ancestors who tried to form a Rusyn autonomus province within Czechoslovakia, and they might not want to be considered as Ukrainians at all. It depends on your definition of "Ukrainian". Pustelnik (talk) 18:43, 24 November 2007 (UTC) Our discussionsI was going to commmend you on your remarkable civility and, as always, amazing dedication to WP. I will alternate my postings, but am generally more interested in improving the state of dance and music articles. I marvel at the combined work of all the Polish, Russian, and Ukrainian members. Sure there will be times to disagree about certain articles, but the manufacture of content from that area is stagerring to be sure. Thank you for the additional links about language issues. The present system seems ill-suited to stave of our stubborn-headed colleagues (we all have some in our respective communites), and I hope discussions will lead to further reforms. I hope you realize by now that I am not the type that intends to begin any warring, but I am known to back up others when their actions seem sincere. Good luck with KK; he seems like he would make for a good time out with friends :) Not a big fan of the Ukrainian Canadian dialect. But I would like to tackle Ukrainian Americans at some point.--tufkaa 23:37, 28 April 2006 (UTC) PD-UA-exemptWould the images on this official site qualify for such a tag? As the company is state owned. If yes that means that I'll be able to do all the stations of the Kiev Metro and then it WILL altogether become a featured article. In the meantime I still would like to upgrade DnieproGES to the FA standard and nominate it. --Kuban Cossack
Sorry, got you wrong. Give me a couple of days to email them with the request for permission, which I don't expect will be a problem. You could email them too, but I think it is more courteous to write to them in Ukrainian rather than in Russian. So, I will gladly do it for you. --Irpen 19:30, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Still, I will email them again and we'll see. --Irpen 19:42, 30 April 2006 (UTC) PrometheismYou keep complaining about this article. But why not just follow the Wikipedia practice and edit it, introducing changes which will make it less POV? This is the Wikipedia way, after all. Be bold. Sitting on the sidelines and telling others to fix articles is not going to accomplish anything. Balcer 03:12, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
UkrainizationWould this and this (scroll down to Лингвистический лохотрон) be of any use to you?—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 15:38, 12 May 2006 (UTC) Davies WERSI have it now next to me. I think I already asked you for a list of terms to check, I am sorry if you gave it to me but I can't find it now - I remember we talked about the list...--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 20:30, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
"Quick jumping to blocks"Irpen, I just wanted to thank you for this. It was good to read some reasoned thought, both about how our sysop temperment is changing as newer, less-encultured people become sysops, and on the individual cases, how mis-application of and sometimes shear insouciance to the guidance can distort our policies into damaging the encyclopædia. Certainly, it makes a rather nice change from the reactionary stuff that so-often pervades AN. Keep up the good work, etc.. :-) Yours, James F. (talk) 09:17, 10 July 2006 (UTC) Allow me 3  For your outstanding contributions to Wikipedia and for passing the strict criteria of newly created Senior Editor rank 1 badge (10,000 edits including 5,000 mainspace edits and two years of service (starting from 3 June 2004 in your case)), you are awarded the Bronze Editor Badge and its Book of Knowledge! Geeze, I'm jealous :) Cheers, Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 15:30, 16 July 2006 (UTC) Wow! Thank you very very much! --Irpen 20:26, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Irpen, Is there any way that you would be willing to consider releasing Image:Kiev St Andrews night.jpg under the CC-by-SA 1.0 license? Thanks. -- Wikitravel Sapphire 07:15, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Political reform in UkraineIrpen, I notice you create red links to "Political reform in Ukraine" and "Constitutional reform in Ukraine", but I don't think it requires a separate article. I think it should rather be a section "Constitutional Reform (2004)" in Constitution of Ukraine article. Also, the terminology you are using seems to be disambiguous, as 2004 reform is one of many political (constitutional) reforms in Ukrainian history. --KPbIC 01:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Allow me...Image:Purple_heart.jpg For defending articles with valor and for being wounded in these defensive operations, this PH for you, Irpen :) -- Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 14:51, 23 August 2006 (UTC)]] Hope you don't mind receiving an American award for that, but sadly, there was no similar award in the USSR... -- Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 14:51, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Language tablesTake a look at my quest from Zscout370 for two tables with language break down in Ukraine by students studying in a specific language (secondary school students only). If you object to their future use, let's let Zscout370 know now so that he does not spend his time on making them. The request is located on his talk page @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zscout370#Png_question --Riurik (discuss) 21:25, 27 August 2006 (UTC) History of the Soviet Union (1953-1985)I have no interest in an edit war but no time either to rewrite the paragraph in question in such a way that it will attain any acceptable level of encyclopedic writing. Therefore just a few short remarks to show that the paragraph is on the one hand totally out of place and full of errors on the other: 1. The article as such is (like almost all articles concerning "communist" and/or "Soviet" topics in the English WP) so utterly flawed, biased and distorted that it would be but a insignificant cosmetic change if I were to rewrite one paragraph of it. 2. It is absolutely inappropriate to imply that Andropov's "major legacy" to the Soviet Union would have been his "discovery" and "promotion" of so dismal a figure as Gorbachev. Andropov was a highly intellectual and reasonable politician as well as a convinced communist that strove for a thouroughgoing improvement (or "reform", although the word can be tricky !) of socialism in the Soviet Union and beyond. THAT is his major (but due to his early death tragically unfulfilled) legacy ! 3. If anybody "discovered" Gorbachev, then this dubious honor belongs to either Suslov or Kulakov (or even Shevardnadze) and only in the third or fourth instance to Andropov. 4. Gorbachev was since 1978 CC secretary for agriculture, not "personnel". Rather, Ligachev (whose world views were and still are far more corresponding to Andropov's than Gorbachev's ever did) was nominated CC secretary for personnel questions during Andropov's time in office in late 1983. 5. If Gorbachev is mentioned as a "protegée" of Andropov, then his other (and often much closer) collaborators should also be named - for instance Ryzhkov, Ligachev, Romanov or Aliev to mention but a few. 6. It was during Chernenko's (and not Andropov's !) long periods of absence due to his illness in 1984/85 that Gorbachev acted as the "Second Secretary" of the CC and therefore as the "deputy" to the General Secretary. During Andropov's illness no clear "deputy" was chosen. I hope this makes my line of reasoning a bit clearer, Yours Elsmlie 09:59, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Transparency vs. Opacityor, more explicitly, "Open Meetings/Records" vs. "Behind Closed Doors" Dear Irpen: Thank you, many times thank you, for your recent comments on the need for transparency in admin decisions, as opposed to their being made secretly off-wiki with no record. What I have seen over and over in real-world governance is the immediate tendency of secrecy to foster corruption. In part this might be the tendency of already existing corruption to seek secrecy as a growth medium; but I think secrecy has also weakened the resistance of the previously honorable with its continual tempting whisper of "no-one will know." One of the alarming things about the recent WP:AN/I discussion was how open discussion was repeatedly subverted by admins who claimed their actions had support but declined to specify names, citations, or any other detail. (Perhaps "all the lurkers support them in
It is all too vivid a reminder of the block-plus-false-accusation-of-"threats" on Commons for which the blocking admin would not give even specifics, let alone cites (and said "other admins" had asked him for the block, though again he gave no names; where did this asking occur?)... ... and of the entire RfA talk page deleted because one person had asked an awkward question. (Interesting question, too. How, right after two previous failed RfAs, did a candidate manage to win unanimously, 25-0, a third RfA for which all previous opposition disappeared — or, as the asker noted, of which previous opponents had not heard? Why would anyone delete an entire page to keep that question from being seen, rather than either answering or ignoring it? It would have been easy enough to reply "You snooze, you lose.") Open meetings and open records, allowing everyone to see what's really going on, let people learn to trust their administration — if the actions so revealed are worthy of trust. A cloud of secrecy, from which emerge (even occasionally) lies and injustices, tends to have the opposite result. Further, making an official habit of dishonesty (e.g. using false accusations to justify admin actions) cannot bode well for an encyclopedia project, which after all should be honest and verifiable. The Wikipedia/Wikimedia community faces a serious problem, even if most of its members simply don't know it yet, even if many will remain blithely unaware. Your recent comments have shown the clearest awareness of this, made the clearest statement of it, that I have seen to date. Again, thank you. – SAJordan talkcontribs 08:55, 17 Dec 2006 (UTC). Question on Kyiv spellingIrpen, Kyiv spelling of the capital of Ukraine is the official spelling, according to the Ukrainian national system of transliteration. It's also one of the well established spellings of the city (Google test: more than 5mln hits). Thus, I would like to ask what is your view on the scope of usage of this spelling in Wikipedia? Should it be used, as a reflection that the spelling is a valid spelling, which has its usage? Or, should it be excluded from each and every page? --KPbIC 22:58, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
OK, I was pleased to log in and find out that my page became a field for a productive discussion. Since it was conducted at my page, I assume that all that took part are interested in my opinion. Here goes. First, the general statement. Based on the combination of the current Wikipedia policies and the modern prevailing English usage, Kiev should indeed be used throughout Wikipedia, except for the proper names where Kyiv is part of such name, such as football clubs, enterprises, organizations, etc. It should also be used in the discussion in the "Kiev or Kyiv" section of the Kiev article and, ideally, in the yet non-writted Name of Capital of Ukraine article, similarly to the existing Name of Ukraine. That said, I do not make it my priority to hunt for Kyiv all over Wikipedia and change it for Kiev because I have other things to do. At the same time, users who do so, act in accordance with the policies and they should not be reverted for frivolous reasons. Personally, I usually only change Kyiv by Kiwv in two cases. One, when I edit the article for other reasons, like expanding it. Two, when someone Kyivizes the spelling that pre-exists. I am not bound to do it that way, as this is my volunteerly soft self-restriction. Kuban kazak may have a different view on how tolerant one should be to non-policy name and he is entitled to act as he sees fit because this is actually what policies prescribe. I do not see Kyiv within current policies. A separate, and yet related question, is that the usage in articles does not have to coinside with the main article. True enough, the historic names, as found in historic literature written in English may be used. However, Kyiv does not prevail in English usage in any particular context. As such, historicity is not a valid reason for this particular city. I view the argument Krys frequently brings about the desires of the city residents largely irrelevant. Curiously, I am not even sure that an opinion of the residents of the city is known. Truth is that the population of the city is both overwhelmingly Russophone and overwhelmingly supportive of the Ukrainian independence. How one is to derive the residents' view of the particular question is a mystery to me and however one does it, that's original research. I am not aware of a sociological survey where the city residents were asked the particular question. I must say that this would be extrely interesting to know. --Irpen 04:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
There are plenty of google hits for Warszawa and Munchen as well. There is no usage of the term in Wikipedia. Similarly, Kyiv is not "ignored". It is not used in WP except few circumstances. There are only two contexts for the city name: modern and historical. Kyiv does not prevail in either of those. If you you don't see a clear answer, you are free to spend your time pursuing it. I do see a clear answer and consider this a pure waste of time. Therefore, I do not see a need for RfC and will not help it happen. If it happens, I might comment on it at some point but I view initiation unfavorably not because I like the status quo but because I don't see any merit in your claim. To summarize, I cannot prevent you from pursuing the issue anywhere you want but I do not want to facilitate another empty discussion which will bring nothing. --Irpen 23:43, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
I am not for "independent" surveys as opposed to the government ones. I am against deriving the answers to a question A from the answers to a question B made by a Wikipedian on his own and then invoking the results of such original research to argue his points. The question to the city residents "How would you prefer your city to be called in English?" has never been asked and I would be very curious to see an answer to it no matter who conducts such survey. I see other baseless claims you made above, like "Kievans support" this or that. Not that this is very relevant to the Wikipedia naming, but I have no idea where you get this info from. I think the only way to know is to check how people answer questions asked to them. I did not see Kievans answering the questions like "Would you prefer your children to study in the schools with Russian or Ukrainian as the primary language of instructions, provided that both languages are studied comprehensively within the schools curriculum?" Neither I have seen specific Kiev-only answers to the question "Would you prefer Russian to be a second state language in Ukraine?" (I've seen the answers to this latter question asked Ukraine-wide and the answer of the majority of the population of the country is "yes"). This all is, however, beside the point. I commented on that simply because you like to invoke the will of the people baselessly purely on where you want the people's will to be or by deriving it from elsewhere without basis. Moreover, this has only an indirect and remote effect on the English usage as the latter is mainly affected by the English native speakers and those do not live in Ukraine. "People I know" is not a valid statement as an argument in Wikipedia. Besides, I know many people who think otherwise. I am not invoking them because user:Irpen is not an authority to conduct surveys and argue their results. Neither is user:Krys. I can see that you personally want to see the English usage changed. I neither approve nor disapprove your interest in doing so. However, Wikipedia cannot be a vehicle to promote your personal preferences on what the English usage is better to advance your political goals. I have repeatedly supported the Ukrainian-based versions of the names within Wikipedia where such were warranted by the recent change of the English usage. I not only supported but also initiated the moves of Luhansk and Kharkiv. Unlike Kuban kazak, I consistently use LvIv and CherkaSy not only in main but also at talk pages (while you act more like Kazak by insisting on using Kyiv in talk space, but, hey, this is just talk space and you are both free to deflect from conventions dictated for mainspace to make your point). As soon as (also if) the prevailing English usage would change towards Kyiv, I will support the change of the article's name and will use the name in modern context in the articles I edit. Re your point about Warsaw, see this. As you can see Polish editors rejected your claim. You want to start an RfC about something that has been discussed to death and a new RfC will add nothing to it. If this is how you want to be spending your wikitime, go for it. I am not interested in the endless discussions about something where everything has been already said. --Irpen 02:09, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
I am tired of discussing with you some irrepevant issues. Your assertions about knowing and being able to derive the wishes of the residents are flawed but I already explained why. As for comparison of Kyiv with Kharkov, the difference has been explained to you. All the E.L. WW2 literature uses Kharkov. It also uses Rumania and, frequently, Tarnopol. Kyiv is not used by much of the English language books iun any historical context. That's what makes it different from Kharkov and Lwow. --Irpen 06:40, 19 December 2006 (UTC) Possibly unfree Image:A Voloshyn.jpg An image that you uploaded or altered, Image:A Voloshyn.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images because its copyright status is disputed. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. Please go to its page for more information if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Nv8200p talk 15:15, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
An uninvolved admin says....Now would be a great time to drop it. Please discontinue the argument at WP:RFI or I will drag the warring parties apart while adopting a policy of actively not caring who, if anyone, is right. Same goes for Piotrus. Guy (Help!) 21:21, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
New day, new hopeSince you tried talking to me, let me repay the good intention, especially as I still think you are a decent person, and we are having a terrible misunderstanding. Plus if I can work things with Ghirla (in mediation), I am sure it should not be more difficult to patch our relations. So. You think that I am responsible for Ghirla leaving the project, yes? I don't think so. We were doing well in mediation, I was mostly satisfied with his replies and I didn't see any sign he was unsatisfied with mine. So I don't think I was the reason he left our project. Further, as I wrote before, I would be happy to cosign a request to get him back. He is a valued contributor, and as we have been doing good progress dealing with the incivility issue I see no reason not to want him to come back and continue contributing to this project, avoiding our past problems with the civility parole he himself recognized as acceptable and useful. Second. I am offended by your accusations that I try to get my opponents blocked. You should know well I spend a lot of time in discussions, and in my years here even you could find only several examples where I was forced to take this action. Blocking policy exists for a reason, and if an admin finds that a person who disagree with his POV seems also to be violating polices whose violation is blockable, what can that admin do? He cannot block that person himself, obviously - so isn't the only choice (assuming he has tried to talk to that person first but failed to reach a solution) to ask other admins to investigate that matter (again, assuming that that admin thinks the case is relativly simple and violates a policy whose violation is blockable)? Do note that investigation may result in a block but may also in recommendations for DR or just plain 'you are overreacting, let it go'. As I wrote before I don't believe any of my actions were over and beyong what is perfectly normal and to be expected behavior of any user.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 18:03, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Piotrus, I agree that civility is an asset. I agree that incivility is not helping. All I am saying is that policies should not be used as a weapon in edit or personal conflicts. I never reported Halibutt or Lysy for their abusive language. The price of your actions is a loss of an invaluable editor, while Halibutt is still around. Could be if I was harassing Hali over civility the same way as you were harassing Ghirla, Hali would not have been here as well. And I am not even mentioning the extreme offense about my ethnicity I took from Lysy. I will not sit idly if this practice continues while I will do my best to ensure the improved civility overall. --Irpen 20:53, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
I did not defend his incivility, that's for one. Besides, he was constantly provoked by the campaign that some were running against him. I did talk to him about overal tone of his messages and about not taking the bait. Unfortunately, it had only some effect. If your goal was to eject him, you succeeded now. Happy edits, --Irpen 21:11, 24 January 2007 (UTC) New day, new hope - 2
By campaign I mean being followed everywhere with links to his a year old RfC, which even included WP:DYK pages, being faced with WP:TE attacks, like in Russian Enlightenment and other whatnots. I repeat that I agree that Ghirla has somewhat a short temper. So does Hali. Piotrus and myself have a thicker skin. I have the thickest one. The crux of the matter is that editors like Ghirla and Hali should not be harassed but protected for the benefit of us all thanks to the enormous amount of material they bring here. They should not be reported to all sorts of boards on every minor instance. --Irpen 21:53, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
He has not chased away a single editor. I can tell you more. My first interaction with him was a long and stubborn argument at the talk of the the Great Russian language article. After two days of arguing over the disagreement, he gave to me my first barnstar that you can see at the top of my page. He can be reasoned with if you do it properly. If, OTOH, one does it like Piotrus and Halibutt was doing, yes, he looses temper and responds inadequately. Still, I am aware of no more valuable contributor to this project and I am willing to tolerate occasional incivility from such editors, similar to how I tolerate Halibutt and oppose any harassment he has been taking lately. --Irpen 22:12, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Ivan ChernyshyovHello Irpen! A Count (or General) "Czernichev" is listed in Giles MacDonogh's Frederick the Great: A Life in Deeds and Letters as being the advisor to Catherine the Great that suggested to Prince Henry of Prussia that Frederick take Warmia, leading up to the First Partition.[1] This book about the Seven Years' War mentions a "General Ivan Chernichev", while this book about Sweden mentions "Czernichev" visiting Finland. If you have time, could you investigate and confirm that this is the same individual as Ivan Chernyshyov (which lacks military info)? Cheers, Olessi 07:36, 1 February 2007 (UTC) Trouble with PiotrusI noticed your comments on the talk page of the RfC for User:Piotrus. Just wanted to give you a heads-up on the harrassment he is attempting on my own talk page. A user contacted him after the fact of a situation that was handled, and not only did Piotrus attempt to re-warn me on my talk page, he also sent one of his minions after me. I tried to inform him several times, and he continues to persist on my talk page. His actions are so against any admin I have come across. Rarelibra 16:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC) Re:On reporting PiotrusHello Irpen! Nice to notice that you have time to write to me. You and Dr. Dan's speak truth, but the process of user:Piotrus 3RR is under way, and I am not imposition to stop it, and after reading his reply on 3RR board there he trying to escape responsibility once again accusing other contributors of vandalism and bad faith leaves me no space, only to bring this case to the end. But I promise that I will have your words for the future developments. You are experienced contributor and in the light of this event I would like to hear your advice, despite that I am already made the decision about this. Probably you are aware that Piotrus and his ally Lysy trying to remove some information from one article.(the same which P.P. was reported) In the heat of edits, contributor Lysy came to help a bit to our dear Piotrus. And imagine situation, at first Lysy conducted small changes but suddenly out of nowhere appears so called annon vandal from USA, and blanks the page [2] and of course dedicated contributor Lysy "reverts" this so called vandal [3] (please see edit summary vandalism by anonymous editor). Every thing would be fine if not one and big but, after comparison of two version - before so called vandal and after so called restoration, vital information was lost (yes you right the information which is not pleasant to Polish eyes) - [4]. Huge parts of article simple disappear! It is impossible to lost info if you reverting to the previuos version of edit only, which had it, of course if you do not remove it during restoration of version, but Lysy's edit summary is silent about this. Later he tried to update one part of article during so called restoration process and to show that he is removing it publicly [5], you see this is only one part; other vital info was not restored in any attempt. This situation I see as clear sneaky approach to receive upper hand in content dispute. How do you see this situation? M.K. 11:31, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
TranslationI don't have time for that; there is nothing offensive in those posts and besides 1) they are private messages from Darwinek to me and 2) your knowledge of Polish should be sufficient to understand and translate them if you really think they are important.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 06:46, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
About the "Żyrandol" nicknameHi, I'm explaining it in your talk since the RFArb is probably not the right place. The nickname is stupid and childish, and should have no place in wikipedia, I fully agree. However there's nothing offensive in it. Probably calling someone a tomato would be more of an offence. --Lysytalk 06:56, 26 March 2007 (UTC) Seems like a play on the "similarity" of Ghirlandajo and Zhyra'ndol (light fixture) in Polish, if I'm any judge. Not exactly offensive, but certainly somewhat pejorative (was used in context of "between us buddies", right?). Yury Tarasievich 09:05, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
RequestFeel free to write how bad I and other Polish editors are on your talk page. Feel free to start a RfC or use other means ohttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Irpen&action=edit Editing User talk:Irpen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaf asking others for input. But don't spam my talk pages with your grudges after I have politely asked you to stop several times. By all means, feel free to reply / repost / do whatever you want on your talk pages.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 04:55, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Soviet invasion of PolandI am pleased with the way this article is progressing. I've spent enough time on it now that eventually I would like to see it at FAC. However, I'm only too aware of criticisms re POV from you, Mosin, and Grafikm, and though I have done quite a lot, I think, to increase the information in the article about the Soviet view of things, I would be pleased if you could check it over again. I would rather directly address criticisms from you now than at FAC; and I hope you will have time to edit the article yourself. Those elements, like the title, which are well-sourced, cannot be removed (though I have added that the Soviets called it the "liberation campaign" and have made the Soviet view as clear as I can), but there is, of course, room for parallel interpretations of events, if sourced. At the moment I am looking at figures and will be making some edits clarifying the differences between old and newer figures for the deaths and deportations (at the moment the figures are something of an inchoate smattering). Anything you can do to help the article will be appreciated. As you probably know, arguments between Polish and Russian-speaking editors don't interest me: I have a high regard for yourself and Ghirlandajo, as well as for Piotrus and Halibutt, and I would love it if this article could pool all your brains together instead of pulling them apart. qp10qp 21:35, 9 April 2007 (UTC) ArbCom/PiotrusCase has been started, probably you will be interested: [8] M.K. 10:21, 20 April 2007 (UTC) Hello, An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Piotrus. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Piotrus/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Piotrus/Workshop. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Picaroon (Talk) 20:33, 30 April 2007 (UTC) Your commentWhatever this was, the Portal talk:Poland/Poland-related Wikipedia notice board is not the place to post it. Try the talk pages of the people you think are involved. Balcer 02:03, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
All right. I am not going to persist in this silly revert war. It stays in history and will likely be read enough, to be sure. I do not care whether it beautifies the page (and its archives) forever. I hope you will fiercely remove the calls to get a hand in an edit war frequently posted at that board from now on. --Irpen 02:20, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Balcer, "I am not going to tell you who" only because I don't have a 100% proof of who, but I do have a very strong circumstantial evidence on "what" (a duck test.) As for the Russian or Ukrainian boards, I am aware of the announcements in support of someone or something (like even the one in question) and, sadly, even calls to oppose something. But I am not aware of any similar campaigns run among the Russian or Ukrainian users behind the scenes. If this happened, I would not hesitate to use the board to find what truly was behind such incident in the Russian or Ukrainian community. --Irpen 02:38, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Please read what I said at the board. What happened is indeed disgusting but my exposing it is aimed at making the repetitions less likely. --Irpen 06:08, 5 May 2007 (UTC) MeltyukhovIrpen, do you consider Meltyukhov's book a reliable source ? The more I read him the more suspicious I am. --Lysytalk 09:00, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
If he is the one using the "concentration camps" term, this is pretty strong for a respected scholar. Aren't you concerned about this ? You know what I mean, there are different authors, and one can often find some extremal ones, even among the academics. The sources should be carefully selected. I'm usually trying to avoid citing authors who exhibit clear POV pushing in their works (like e.g. not citing Professor Edward Prus about Polish-Ukrainian conflicts, as I know he is biased). --Lysytalk 09:29, 28 May 2007 (UTC) Mikhail Meltyukhov is notable. As for his reliability, however, the article only claims he is an employee of Russian Institute of Documents and Historical Records Research, a red-linked institute that we don't know nothing about. What is important in estabilishing a person's reliability is primarily: what institution creditentials is he backed up with, what venue publishes his works (the one's we cite, particulary) and how are they received (reviewed) by the academic community. Currently we lack all of those crucial pieces of information, the best we can say is that he is a Russian historian with a PhD publishing books/articles/ebooks but with no info on reliablity of publishers (for all we know he can be self-publishing them). As such, he is definetly having problems with WP:RS.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 17:53, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Irpen, I apologize for bugging your userpage, but I addressed you and not Piotrus. I'm puzzled as to why he responded in your talk page instead of you, and you did not. Do you understand and agree with the point that I was trying to make above ? --Lysytalk 20:12, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
ClarificationIrpen, I am perfectly aware that you a most voiceful opponent of Holocaust Denial, and hence I thought that you would probably be aware of the nature of the Institute for Historical Review, probably the most infamous and repellent revisionist organisation of them all. This is precisely why I was so shocked by this edit, and wanted an explanation from you as to what point you are making. I am glad you have now (rather late) explained what happened. Prompt answers to legitimate questions will help to avoid similar misunderstandings in the future. I still stand by my suggestion that your comment with the link to IHR be stroked out, but the decision is of course yours. Balcer 20:36, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
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О, мой сынок, мой дорогой, Из дому ты уйдёшь.Where are you when we need your knowledge of Ukrainian? --Pan Gerwazy 12:11, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Gone missing?Where are you, Irps? Bishonen | talk 23:52, 10 July 2007 (UTC).
Where's Irpen? --Mcginnly | Natter 09:54, 17 July 2007 (UTC) Thank you all, dear friends for your concerns. I am OK. Great, actually. You can find why I stopped editing from my today's entries. Sometimes, the climate here makes it just impossible to edit. Hopefully, the situation will improve. All the best to you all as well! --Irpen 04:13, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
An apologyIrpen, it was never my intent to cause you distress and I am sorry about that - alas, the case is stressful to us all, and I myself have recently been seriously considering a wikiholiday, because every time I check my watchlist I dread "what other attacks on my person I will have to read now". After you declared that you are compiling your own evidence against me, can you blame me for drafting a reply? If you are distressed that it was semi-public, would you prefer I compiled it secretly in a *.doc or similar file as is commonly done - and presumably, in the form your not-yet-public evidence is drafted? If so, you could have just asked me to remove it from the web, and I'd have done so. Further, if this draft of an evidence was so distressing, please consider how do others - like myself - feel when they face similar accusations - coming from your person, too - near constantly, from article's talk pages, through user talk, public fora and DR cases.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 13:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Few thoughtsHey Irpen. Welcome back. I have read your newest posts on Arbcom. They are quite impassioned and a lot of thought clearly went into them. I am not going to respond in full here, as that would require quite a bit of reflection on my part, and I should let Piotrus speak first. Balcer
Still, here are a few thoughts of mine, for your consideration. 1. You expressed your opposition to off-wiki communication. Please reconsider. One of the best parts about being a Wikipedian is developing friendships with interesting people, friendships which necessarily need to go off official Wikipedia channels for communication. If I want to discuss with Piotrus any non-Wikipedia topic of interest to us, obviously we are not going to use Wikipedia talk pages. Therefore, I resent your implication that Piotrus' request to me for IM communication was in any way illegitimate or suspicious. Balcer
2. Your outrage at the "list of offenses" that Piotrus was compiling seems boundless, but please make an effort to see things from his point of view. In the last months of last year, Piotrus went through a quite involved Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Piotrus, where plenty of evidence was presented against him by his opponents on Wikipedia. Obviously, presenting counterarguments on his part must have taken quite a lot of effort. Knowing that since the RfC did not result in any resolution, and that a similar effort was likely to be launched against him again (as indeed it was in the Arbcom), it seems perfectly reasonable for him to build up his side of the case beforehand. I suppose that he regrets now posting this material on a page which he thought was private, but which of course in this day and age where Google is combing all Wikispace day and night, obviously is not. Balcer
3. If you really think Piotrus did something really reprehensible, while at the same time you admit that in many respects he is a great contributor to Wikipedia and a decent human being, try to put yourself in his shoes for a moment and try to figure out what induced him to do what he did. Could it be that there is something in what you, Ghirlandajo and others are doing that is in some part responsible for this situation? What part of your behavior could be changed? Balcer
4. I join you in my dismay at the rather limited (or even nonexistent) positive role that Arbcom is taking in this situation. They contributed very little, and the rulings under consideration are rather meaningless general pronouncements which display no understanding of what is really going on here (I think we all agree on this at this point). It almost makes me wonder whether this whole issue could not just be resolved among the editors involved. Since Arbcom seems incompetent here, maybe that is the only hope left. Balcer 09:19, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Re: "Proposing a novel solution that may actually work"Hi Irpen. Welcome back. I am very glad to see you participating again. I have read with interest your remarks here, and have responded with some questions here. I'd be interested in your response. Anything idea that might help ameliorate the situation should be vigorously pursued. Regards, Paul August ☎ 19:14, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Happy Irpen's Day!
Dear Sharon. I am afraid I am not the best model to "look up to", at least I would recommend others to look elsewhere for the model behavior. But I appreciate your award and will try to live up to it. Best regards, --Irpen 00:06, 7 August 2007 (UTC) English translation of the Valuyev CircularHiya. I stumbled through translating the Valuyev Circular into English, at s:Valuyev Circular. If you have a bit of time, please proof-read it and improve the translation. Thanks. —Michael Z. 2007-08-10 14:20 Z
MapFound a nice map. I linked it to a few places, but you might think of more uses for it. It is quite detailed (11 MB). Balcer
The above case is closed. A general amnesty for editors involved in Eastern Europe-related articles is extended, with the expectation that further editing will adhere to Wikipedia's policies. Future behavior problems may be addressed by the Arbitration Committee on the motion of any Arbitrator or upon acceptance of a request for inquiry by any user who edits in this area. For the Arbitration Committee, Picaroon (t) 19:10, 19 August 2007 (UTC) Hello, An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Digwuren. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Digwuren/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Digwuren/Workshop. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, ArbComBot 00:04, 26 August 2007 (UTC) Dino award time Bishzilla award little Irpen prestigious Tightrope Trophy created by puny 'shonen for SlimVirgin. Image represent amazing Blondin carrying Jimbo Wales safely across Niagara Falls. bishzilla ROARR!! 23:03, 29 August 2007 (UTC). Since you are interested in that period, could you stub this red link? Thank you.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 17:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't think there is a need to keep that local copy; it's a free licence picture - it will never be deleted from Commons.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 02:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. Among the principles passed was At wit's end which states that necessary measures must be adopted by the Arbitration Committee in cases where repeated attempts to stop disruptive disputes have failed. As a result of the case, both Digwuren and Petri Krohn are banned for one year. There has also been a general restriction to all editors working on topis related to Eastern Europe and a warning to all those who may, in the future, attempt to use Wikipedia as a battleground that they may be banned when the matter is reported to the Committee. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Cbrown1023 talk 18:28, 21 October 2007 (UTC) Award
Truly, thanks for all your work.--Riurik(discuss) 04:03, 22 October 2007 (UTC) Image:Ukraine irreproachable sevice thirdc ribbon.png is your image you wanted. I notice a spelling error, but I cannot fix it now. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 19:41, 27 October 2007 (UTC) S.H. sourcesMaybe this [12], [13],[14],[15] would be any of use to you in future if you decide to work on this article seriously. Personally I find this article FUBARed beyond belief. Also this could serve as good start for an artile about great historian [16]. Good luck. Cheers. M0RD00R 21:10, 22 October 2007 (UTC) 83 IPPlease show me evidence that that anon is a banned user, and I will apologize to MK and ban the IP myself. Otherwise I tend to WP:AGF and the anon seems to have a perfectly reasonable point to make.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 20:01, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
This arbitration case has closed and the final decision may be found at the link above. Giano is placed on civility restriction for one year. Should Giano make any edits which are judged by an administrator to be uncivil, personal attacks, or assumptions of bad faith, Giano may be blocked for the duration specified in the enforcement ruling. All parties in this case are strongly cautioned to pursue disputes in a civil manner designed to contribute to resolution and to cause minimal disruption. All the involved editors, both the supporters and detractors of IRC, are asked to avoid edit warring on project space pages even if their status is unclear, and are instructed to use civil discussion to resolve all issues with respect to the "admin" IRC channel. For the Arbitration committee, Thatcher 04:06, 9 February 2008 (UTC) you were missedYour editing was greatly missed while you were gone. Ostap 04:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Your #admins queryI asked FT2 to follow up with you about your concerns. He has access to the logs and played a large role in establishing the new guidelines for the channel. I'll follow up with both of you to see if your concerns are addressed. Take care, FloNight♥♥♥ 21:44, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Allow me
Piotrus/TigerShark/ZScout incident on ANI only noticed this by chance. If something like this happens again will you let me know? (This is regardless of who was actually right or wrong, of course.) Meantime having a look into it, and catching up. Whatever went on, whoever did what, it's worth it. FT2 (Talk | email) 04:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Award
Trans. requestSorry to bug thee Irpen. If you have any time, could you translate this interview, and maybe put it in thy userpace? It might be useful for non-Russian speakers on wiki to be able to read that sort of thing. It's especially interesting as it's by a renowned Ukrainian medievalist, and will prolly be useful again and again. All the best, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 03:58, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Does it have to end like that?Irpen, I still remember the days we co-edited peacefully. Please, consider: I do not follow your edits; I do not criticize articles you have written for bias based on your ethnicity or such; I do not come out of blue to start threads about you on public forums even if you blip on my watchlist here and there; I do not criticize you on public forums for things you have done now or years ago; I do not demand a review of your behavior; I do not not criticize past ArbCom or other rulings that failed to fulfill all my expectations with regard to your person. And so on. Yet increasingly you are doing all of those things to me. Please, Irpen, stop this. I find no pleasure in our disputes, and I don't want to spend a single second collecting diffs with regards to them. Cannot we just agree not to talk about one another? Cannot you just refrain from voicing your opinion on "what Piotrus does"? If you wish, we could try a mediation, perhaps with User:Durova (I found her attempt to mediate between me and Ghirla a year ago rather helpful). I hope we will be able to bury this proverbial hatchet and stop confronting one another in that way before we end up in ArbCom (again - do we need to go through this ordeal again?). I hope we are wise enough to avoid it. Please, pretty please, consider my words. I have not commented under your latest analysis in AE, even through I could've pointed out the ArbCom rulings and such we all know too well. I have no desire to criticize you and blacken your name, please do not do so to me. Please consider this a gesture of my good will, and if so, please consider removing your post there (the issue does not concern you at all, after all) and please, consider not commenting on me in the future (and I will do my best to not comment on you, and to fulfill any other reasonable requests you may have in the future). Please think back to 2 or 3 years ago when we were on more peaceful terms and whether we cannot act like the bad blood between us from was never there. Thanks, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 01:28, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
#admins channelHi :-) After reading your comment about #admins, yesterday I started a discussion in #admin-chan-ops about some of the issues you raised. Though no specific action was made in response to the discussion, the exchange of information was good and I now think that there is better awareness of some of your concerns. I plan to do it again some time next week. Take care, FloNight♥♥♥ 20:44, 5 April 2008 (UTC) Holodomor genocide question deletion?Should said article be listed for deletion? It's a POV fork and the article is just one massive violation of WP:SYNTH, a POV pushing article created by a notorious user under the blatant POV pushing title of “Holodomor genocide denial”. The Holodomor article already discusses the genocide question so what little legitimacy this article has is covered there.--Miyokan (talk) 14:51, 10 April 2008 (UTC) RFA thanksThanks for your support in my RFA, that didn't quite make it and ended at 120/47/13. There was a ton of great advice there, that I'm going to go on. Maybe someday. If not, there are articles to write! Thanks for your support. Lawrence § t/e 18:07, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Award
Gagarin imageSomeone is trying to get your Gagarin image deleted [24], thought you might like to comment.--Miyokan (talk) 03:30, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Polish administrative divisionsHi, Irpen! Piotrus asked me to comment on the situation around the administrative division of Polish territories after partitions article on my talk page, and since it regards several of your edits, I thought I'd let you know as well. Please feel free to comment and provide any clarifications you feel are necessary. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:29, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Quick noteIrpen, I have hopefully made it utterly clear in my statement that I do not support any further action on Giano, and that he's only listed as involved because he was the fulcrum for which WMC and Geogre's actions should be judged. Giano's making a statement here couldn't hurt, and certainly could help. But I understand the high level of feelings here, and I've disengaged from his page, and unless you wish me to post here again on this issue, from here as well. SirFozzie (talk) 01:03, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
HiYou're back, hurray. Some day I would like to make Chernozem into a GA and would appreciate yr help with references - maybe you have access to images?. Best, Novickas (talk) 23:07, 26 August 2008 (UTC) Your RFArb statementHello Irpen. Please could you refactor your statement on the main RfArb page? Statements should be 500 words or less, and yours is currently 1380. Thanks, Ryan PostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 23:27, 26 August 2008 (UTC) An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Piotrus 2/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Piotrus 2/Workshop. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, — Coren (talk) 22:04, 29 August 2008 (UTC) Civility policy issuesFYI, you may wish to read and comment at Wikipedia:Editing restrictions/Civility restriction RFC. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 03:24, 4 September 2008 (UTC) Discussion at Wikipedia talk:CivilityHi there. A follow up to our recent posts. You've been active recently at Wikipedia talk:Civility. Would you be interested in commenting at Wikipedia talk:Civility#Discussion of civility at recent Request for Arbitration? There are several other threads on that talk page that you might be interested in as well, and a proposal to rewrite the policy. For the whole recent story, read downwards from Wikipedia talk:Civility#A Big Question: Does this page make sense?. This will need to be advertised more widely to get more balanced input, but for now I'm notifying those I quoted from the RfArb, and a few other editors who have either written essays on this, or have been active on the talk page recently. Apologies if you had this watchlisted anyway. Carcharoth (talk) 06:13, 19 September 2008 (UTC) Irpen, hi, glad to see you back. :) Since you participated in the Tag team discussions at the WG wiki, I wanted to draw your attention to the Wikipedia:Tag team essay. It was started based on our 2008 report, but is still heavily in flux. I'd really love if you could come over and help out with it, to ensure that your opinions are properly reflected in the essay. Or if nothing else, please add it to your watchlist? Thanks, --Elonka 23:18, 7 September 2008 (UTC) BravoYou just made the best edit of the day [26], Bravo! Unfortunately I wasn't brave enough to do it... Mariah-Yulia (talk) 21:13, 19 September 2008 (UTC) Another handThe following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Irpen, it is not my desire to drag you (or anybody else) through wikipolitics mud throwing contests. Since we didn't have any problematic wiki content disputes in months (if not years) I didn't plan to involve you in any dispute resolution unless you made yourself involved in it first. I presented evidence against you only after you've joined the ArbCom and made it clear you'll present your evidence against me. The evidence I've gathered in the past was gathered to use to defend myself when ArbComs would be launched against me (as they've been in the past), not to attack others (I've never started an ArbCom). Wouldn't it save both of us much time and stress if we would withdraw our mutual fingers pointing at each other from this arbcom and concentrate on improving Wikipedia (as we are doing by discussing Jaworski's work, for example)? Do we have to fight? I don't see why we should.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
I fully share your lack of affection to the ArbCom (particularly this ArbCom I must add to be fully honest.) I share your desire to avoid arbcom as much as possible. All I want is that all the editors who want to write content are able to do it in harmonious environment while the users who are primarily motivated by the Wiki-careerist goals to somehow fulfill their ambitions without interfering with the ability of good editors to work comfortably creating the Wikipedia content. Unfortunately it has become impossible to harmoniously edit in EE area where I want to write and this arbcom, as well as previous ones, illustrate just that. Let me outline again what I see as the most important hurdles, aside from unhelpful intrusions of self-serving mandarins, and what I think needs to be done on our, and particularly, your part. If this was done earlier, things would not have reached the arbcom stage. In fact, all the previous arbcoms could have been avoided too. If it can be done now, I would support a request to end this ArbCom and consider the matter resolved. Arbitrators would be just as happy, I am sure. The primary reason why the editing environment in these topics is so plaguy is not just that these are the areas where editors' views are so strong. People with strong views can have amicable discussions about their issues of disagreement. The reason why the climate is so poisoned lies in some participants' in these conflicts acting dishonestly. The most blatant form of dishonest conduct is employing various secretive means aimed at gaining an upper hand in a conflict. I consider your logging to be just that. In my statement I explained why I do not buy your defense claim. I don't see how following me around and logging my reaction to Betacommand's trolling me [27] or logging Dorftrottel's trolling at ANI about myself [28] can be used for your defense. I don't see how logging my two-months absence can be used for your defense. And I don't see how selectively logging my other actions and giving them the worst possible spin can be used for defense of your own actions. I also wrote here that the only good use of this log I can see is for an attack. And this is exactly how it was used [29] [30] [31] [32]. I must insist that you cease this practice. I asked you many times but you persisted. For me your log was a tipping point. Before that I publicly expressed doubt that your conduct is an ArbCom matter despite many bitter disagreement we had. The understanding on this activity is absolutely crucial and if we cannot reach it by a mutual agreement, I see it critical to get an ArbCom ruling on that. Neither me, nor ArbCom can enforce any ban on your continuing to follow whoever your consider your enemies and meticulously log anything that you can try to spin in a way that would help you push for sanctions of your targets. Thus, ideally it has to be a voluntarily pledge on your part. If you refuse to give it, the only sanction to this effect would be a remedy that would prohibit you from using such surreptitiously collected information. Can we come to an agreement on this? Next, comes off-line canvassing. Are you trying to say that you do not contact people off-line asking for a revert, when you approach a 3RR quota, or for a vote in a survey? Please, let's be serious! This has to stop. Of course, aside from #admins logs that are absolutely stunning, no direct evidence can exist of your Gadu Gadu and email communication since off-wiki communication by its very nature does not leave trace. Their being untraceable is exactly why off-line communications are used, sometimes for absolutely legitimate but sometimes for the illicit purposes. No direct evidence can possibly exist that you ask for reverts by emails and Gadu Gadu. But I believe the amount of circumstantial evidence (in addition to Molobo's flipping on whether he communicates with you off-line and the Alden Jones affair) seems to me very convincing. I can name a couple of other editors, aside from Molobo, who are also known to be your Gadu Gadu partners and who come in all the time when you are "out of reverts". We can have arbitrators rule based on the circumstantial evidence and whatever came out accidentally on Molobo and Alden Jones. Or I will accept if you publicly pledge not to ever ask for an extra revert off-line. While I do not do it myself, if you want I will will post a similar public pledge on my page if this would make it easier for you to promise to refrain from such activity and follow up on this promise. As for the IRC incidents I listed, how can you possibly claim that you did nothing wrong going to this rather special place and badmouthing your opponents behind their backs? And how can you come back to wiki and complain about "incivility" with straight face after what you have said at IRC behind the editors' backs? Would you be willing to pledge that no illicit IRC-shopping would ever happen? In that case, we won't need an arbcom ruling on that either. As for your adminship, my problem with it lies in that people who behave unethically should not be admins. If we can agree on the ethic rules and you pledge to abide by them we won't need to discuss your admin status. IMO, admin status in its own means very little. So, this is my take on things. If you voluntarily pledge to stop maintaining logs on those you consider your enemies, refrain from using off-line channels to recruit help in revert wars or to stack votes in surveys, refrain from misusing #admins to get an upper hand in POV disputes and generally abandon the practice of solving editing conflicts through achieving your opponents' blocks or sanctions by whatever means possible, I would be just as happy to have it solved without any ArbCom involvement. You cannot seriously deny that such activity is reprehensible while you can continue to deny, of course, that you have done that in the past. Is this what you are trying to say? Also, and if this would have been an ideal world, I would like to see your help in reigning on bad users regardless on their POV. Your staunch and persistent defense of Molobo that ranges from personally unblocking him to arguing against every single block he got, arguing on- and off-wiki, continues to raise my eyebrows. But this is your business. I have no intent to interfere with your private correspondence in general. You can correspond with anyone you want. I have no qualms even about your correspondence with Martintg whose obsession about my person goes beyond understandable [33] [34] [35] [36] [37]. There are proper and improper uses of off-line communications. The latter has got to stop. And, ironically, the normalcy in our recent discussion of Jaworski's work only became possible because no one arrived this time out of the blue with reverting my placing doubts on the propriety of the use of this source in the infobox. This just demonstrates what stays in the way of our discussions always taking a constructive route. So, if we could agree on this without ArbCom, I would be just as happy. --Irpen 01:38, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Another hand (section break)Piotrus, it saddens and hurts me that even in this discussion that seems to be aimed to restore our once cordial relations, you try to use such obvious non-truths. (I use the last word instead of a more obvious choice only because I still have not completely given up on the hope that we can resolve this peaceably.) Above and below I speak to you completely truthfully. I expect the same courtesy in return. Let's agree on this point from now on. OK? Now, on your "disputes resolutions require one to present evidence; it's collection is not a sign of bad faith but of following the rules": in this section as well as in the next one I posted a very detail explanation why this log does not help dispute resolution. It may only help make disputes worse rather than "resolve" them. And this is not just my thought. This is a fact as your series of complaints where you used that log to WP:RFI, WP:PAIN, WP:CSN and, most lately, WP:AE failed to help alleviate the situation. In fact, your complaints made things worse. If you read what I wrote here and here as well as above you will see my full explanation why neither "collecting evidence for DR", nor the "defense" claim hold any water. I won't waste any more of your and my time by going over this again. You are not making it any more convincing by merely repeating a claim which I already answered. As for your claim that you did not act, dishonestly the combination and timing of these two diffs [38] [39] prove to the contrary. You can say whatever you want but you do not seriously believe that anyone would buy that you did not make an effort to keep the log secret. You used a <!--- comment out syntax---> assuming google won't find it (you were simply mistaken about google) and you always logged out before editing it in order to avoid this being discovered in your contributions while you made all other pl-wiki edits while being logged-in. You kept it in pl-wiki, rather than at other mediawiki sites, simply because it was more convenient for you but you took all the reasonable precautions against this page's being found. You simply underestimated google. And I saw it in google without actually looking for your log. I was not even checking pl-wiki. Just pl.wikipedia.org and en.wikipedia.org happen to get searched whet "site:wikipedia.org" is entered in the google string. It was a pure accident as I explained here. So, unless you publicly give a word of honor, that you would stop, I would indeed assume that you continue logging based on your persistence with that in the past and your continued defense of this habit. And as long other editors have to edit knowing of being monitored for any "evidence" that can be spun as wrongdoing, we will never have a harmonious climate here. And I do not consider you completely dishonest. Otherwise, I would not have asked you to give me your word on anything as the word from a lier is meaningless indeed. I believe that if you give a public pledge, you would abide by it. And this is why you were so evasive when direct questions about your black book and Gadu Gadu recruitment for reverts were asked in the past [40] [41]. You are simply uncomfortable to give your word on something that you plan to not do. Because, like all of us you do not like to lie. Rather, you tried to sway the matter away and attempted to avoid making a promise that you know you did not plan to hold. So, I request that you make this promise unequivocally and I will believe that you will hold to your word. On my side, I swear that I do not have any such log and never did. I doubt anyone else has it either, judging from the evidence posted so far. I would assume that if whoever of your opponents had such log on you, s/he would have posted the evidence by now. That no one posted anything that looks log-like ([42] [43] [44] [45]), means that it takes your opponents much time to locate whatever they think they need to prove your wrongdoing. So, you can rest assured that you were the only one who had such a log. And if you stop, there would be no one left. Moreover, if just several editors make a public pledge to follow some basic rules of ethical conduct (rules on logging and on off-line revert war and survey recruiting), there would be an enormous pressure for everyone to join. This would be the biggest step towards good editing climate. Next, "I have gathered evidence that I stumbled upon by accident and that I never thought I'd be using". Piotrus, please do not think so badly of my intelligence. "Collecting evidence you did not plan to use" claim does not even need to be discussed. But "stumbled upon by accident" is just as incredulous. You were certainly following my edits and your logging by post to Betacommand's talk [46], the ridiculous ANI thread [47] and even my absence (!) [48] show that you were regularly clicking on this link to find the material. Moreover, I can demonstrate your studying my edits by showing how you got to articles which I purposely kept unanounced for a couple of days to see who of my shadows would get to them first, or to images I would have an argument about, or to user talk pages and noticeboards after I posted there. If we would have to continue with this ArbCom and you would persist with denying that you meticulously checked my edits, I could write up an evidence section on that. I always said that I find being shadowed puzzling and amusing (and it feels me with pity towards people who have nothing better to do with their lives) but I hope you won't insult anyone's intelligence anymore by your "stumbled by accident" claim. Next, you should really stop these repetitious resurrections of the Bacler stuff yet again. Balcer can say what he wants. But he acted grossly unfairly to me. Unlikely in bad faith, everyone makes mistakes, but that was very offensive. You can continue to assign the blame in any way that seems convenient to you and I am not to repeat what I said already having reviewed our discussions with Balcer on more than one occasion [49] [50]. Now you came up with even more bizarre claim [51] that I am guilty of no less than harassment towards Biophys, Lysy and Halibutt. Please stop talking nonsense [52]. BTW, Ghirla made it plain that he left the en-Wiki because he considers your conduct here a major detriment to the comfortable editing environment [53]. And note that the by amount of content, Ghirla was the most prolific editor in the EE. So, should I be saying this all the time like you do? On your off-wiki communication remark above, please, again, do not misrepresent the issue. People are intelligent enough to see what types of communication I mean when I say they are unacceptable. You don't seriously think that in view of how the editing went, I would buy the claim that all there was there was: "Piotrus, what's interesting on Wikipedia?" "I created article X, user Y article Z, there are discussions on articles M and N". This is not what was going on. There were direct requests "please revert here". You were saying that it can't be proven [54]. I think, it can. When seeing those many cases when the fourth (or sometimes third) revert came specifically from the editors who you talk to via Gadu Gadu and came almost instantly after you were reverted and came from the very same editors (Molobo, Tymek, Darwinek, Alden Jones and his socks) I believe that an unbiased observer would see the same thing as I see. It could not have been anything but "Please revert this article" by Gadu Gadu. And, Molobo being a special case aside, I do not even blame these editors. They have less free time for Wikipedia and they admire you and they think that by undoing people's edits back to your version that revert to a "better" version because they think very highly of you. I kind of understand them. It is not so much their fault as it is yours when you ask for a revert. Same goes to surveys. So, you can persist with the denial and we will then have to see what others would say if revert and vote histories are put together (and I would hate spending time doing that) or we can just agree that this stops. Same as before, I would trust your word. I believe that precisely because you don't like telling non-truths you carefully avoided saying directly: "I did not request reverts by IM or email". So, I want you to give your word that you won't. I will then forget the past and, again if it makes you comfortable, would post a similar pledge to my talk page. It would be easy for me because I do not do it anyway. And of course there should be no tricks to circumvent that, like "please regularly check my edits and you know what to do..." And think again of the pressure such mutual pledge by us would place on everyone to follow through. If all major EE players would pledge to follow the mutually agreeable rules of ethical conduct, I am sure the climate would improve dramatically. On IRC you again stray this off-topic. I mostly agree with the part of your essay that you link to. I argued many times against the practice that would scare editors from reporting the 3RR violations. I can't agree with you fully that only WP:3RR needs to be enforced while EDITWAR should not. My view is that these are simply different ballparks. Unlike simple 3RR, blocking someone for general editwarring is a discretion block which requires seeking more opinions. Crudely, while blocking for 3RR is WP:AN3 matter to be decided by a single admin, blocking for edit warring is a WP:ANI matter. There should not be unilateral blocks for general editwarring based purely on a 3RR complaint. You may want to read, for example this thread where I and several other editors you would recognize argue these points. But you, again, swayed the discussion off-topic. Your IRC conduct was wrong not because you did not break 3RR while Boody did. It was wrong because it was block shopping at a secret forum. There is no excuse to talk with other admins about Boody's alleged violation in the forum to which he has no access. There are no privacy issues involved. Similarly, there is no excuse of your badmouting Lokyz and M.K. at IRC behind their backs. Anyway, I am effectively repeating what I said here and we are wasting our time. You need to promise that you will never ever talk about your opponents at #admins simply because this is the very basic rule of decency. Talking people down behind their backs is worse than uncivil. It is simply dishonorable. Why do I have to spend time explaining such an obvious thing? You can't possibly say that this is acceptable practice. And since, unlike for Gadu Gadu, the logs came out, you cannot even try to deny that either. So, what is the problem to promise to never do it? On Molobo, he is not my obsession. He is yours. He is a nightmare but you tried to get him out of every block he got because he was useful both as a battering ram and an extra revert that you can call in by Gadu Gadu. Here are some examples of his hysterionics after he returned from his year-long block. First, is trolling at Talk:Boleslaw's intervention... that went as far as even arguing lengths for removing of the Russian History wikiproject tag from its talk (and actually removing it too). Next, was his closing the circle of the wikitravel of the "Treatment of the Polish citizens by the Soviet occupiers" piece whose travels all over Wikipedia are a really a story on its own. You can refresh your memory as your friend Martin already posted the mention of one chapter of this text's wikitravels in his evidence. To remind you, originally, it was a rather unfortunate section hastily written and added to the History of Poland (1939-1945) article. Being out of place there, by our mutual agreement it was split off (by you (!) [55] ) into a separate article. Then Richardusr did a great job expanding and NPOVing that article which also got renamed in the course of this expansion into a much more neutral title Occupation of Poland (1939–1945) at which it peaceably remains to this day. This was not good enough for you though and you copy/pasted its half word for word into an "article" called much more eloquently Soviet repressions of Polish citizens (1939-1946). (BTW, at the AfD I started because it was a word-for-word fork, you stated that you were going to improve it and rid it of the forkness. Six months later it is still a bit for bit fork.) Good enough for you but not good enough for your friend Molobo who pasted its copy bit for bit back into square one, the History of Poland (1939-1945). Thus is in a way, this piece of text fully circumnavigated the Wikipedia. Due to that, the NPOV tag beautifies the History of Poland article to this day and our discussion of this fascinating round-the-wiki travel is here. To sum it up, Molobo remains just as fascinating as he was but, perhaps he now has a more busy life, we see less of him. He got an indefinite block from which you managed to get him out by intense email lobbying. This is quite a story, Piotrus. But as I said before, no matter how I would love you to start reigning in on trolls even when they push for the right POV, this is not something I am trying to make you promise me. But other activities outlined above should stop, namely:
If you and I can agree on that, we would make a huge difference when other editors would feel pressured to pledge the same. If you accept it, I would have nothing else to ask from ArbCom. Your previous reply to my suggestions was sort of evasive. It was partly a denial, partly an assertion but not of what I asked you to assert. This required me to spend so much time to, basically, say the same thing differently. The ball is in your court. I don't like these conflicts, I want to edit peacefully, I am sure it would happen if we agree on such obvious and basic rules. And I also dislike this ArbCom. But please no more circling around. My offer is very clear and sincere and deserves a clear answer. --Irpen 02:19, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Another hand (section break 2)Piotrus, I just want to make sure there is a complete understanding between us. You wrote:
My three bulleted points about the activities that should stop are as follows (emphasis added}:
You said above that you agree that logging "should not be done", while at the workshop, later on the same day, you again defend such activity with your : "Piotrus evidence collection was within norms of the community" proposal. So, which is it? Also, you say:
You collected material on the following editors: Dr Dan, M.K., Lokyz, Matthead, Ghirla, myself, M0RD00R, Giano. Are all (or any) of them "difficult to distinguish from a troll"? --Irpen 07:15, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
This is not a trading game, Piotrus. I am not asking you for any "favors" beyond normal rules of common decensy. If you want to know what I won't do "in return", I can tell that I won't do any of this either. I won't call in reverts by email, IRC, Gadu Gadu or any other way (like you did). Neither I would call in votes to RM or AfD discussions . I won't stack diffs, like you did. I won't stack them on you and your friends on any Wikipedia, on my hard drive, anywhere at all. I just don't see elimination of opponents as the method to resolve content disputes. I won't be asking anyone off-line to block or sanction my "enemies" or to unblock my friends, (like you did). It would be very easy for me since I have not done any of that before. If this undercarpet games stop, I am sure we would have a decent chance that content disputes would be solved as well by an honest and robust debate. I want you to behave ethically from now on. And I won't do anything unethical either. How does it sound? --Irpen 03:24, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Another hand (section break 3)I will be happy to try to patch things with Balcer if he wants to discuss the last incident. In my opinion it is he who owes me an apology but I will be happy to discuss our misunderstanding with the Polish editor I respect more than any other (and this is how I saw Balcer) and try to find a solution. I said on several occasions that I miss the times we were editing together with Balcer and I am sorry things went bad between us. We can discuss it if he wants. I am not aware of my misconduct towards Lysy and Halibutt. They never said I offended them but if they have anything to say to me, they are free to do it. Particularly about Halibutt, I am on record defending him and speaking of him highly on several occasions. Now, back to the issues at hand:
Because what you claim above is a little different from what I ask. You added "otherwise uninterested" and "that I cannot deal with via normal dispute resolutions". You keep being evasive, Piotrus. And finally
"Normal dispute resolutions" is the only proper way to deal with Wikipedia disputes. I request that you restrict yourself to these methods from now on. And my main problem with you so far has been in that you did not. --Irpen 18:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Piotrus, this is silly. I always assume good faith until there is evidence to the contrary. This is what AGF says, no more, no less. There is a clear direct evidence that you repeatedly sought sanctions of your content opponents using every board Wikipedia has, as well as off-wiki, that is behind their backs, thus considering elimination of opponents as a method to resolve content disputes. There is a clear direct evidence that to do so, you meticulously sifted the edit patterns of people who you see as your enemies in search of anything you can spin to call for their sanctions and blocks. Finally, there is rather convincing circumstantial evidence (which is while not direct is still IMO pretty strong) that you used off-line communication to request reverts and votes (my beef is not with off-line communication in itself but only in using it for illicit purposes.) So, there is nothing to "assume" here. AGF does not deny common sense. It does not say "wear pink glasses". AGF is not a blank check to behave unethically and then accuse those who cry wolf in ABF. I am not asking you anything beyond requesting that you follow normal ethical rules of conduct. If you think that all the evidence I see is simply made up, you can try to say this at the ArbCom (and I know you would.) I firmly believe that no neutral person would say that what you did was legit. I am willing to put this behind if you promise that this stops. And I will never do any of this stuff. Neither I have done it in the past. So, the ball is in your court. Please tell me at last in clear and non-evasive terms whether you promise to stop doing all of the things above. I am sure that if you do, things will start changing for better very quickly. And I will be happy to put this behind and assume that you honor your pledge. --Irpen 19:07, 23 September 2008 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
CommentSorry for intervening here. I understand that you both are negotiating about something. Let's assume that you came to an agreement. Do you think that would allow to dismiss the case?Biophys (talk) 22:29, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
UpdateI had to go on a several days Wikibreak. Now I am trying to catch up on what I have missed. Piotrus, I see that you did not respond to my last post above but, when I was away, continued making the accusatory of myself and others statements while admitting to no wrongdoing on your own part whatsoever. I had some hope that we might be able to resolve the most problematic issues in a discussion between us but judging from your lack of response to the above and from your recent posts on the case I see that you think this should be resolved by different means. I am sorry we were unable to achieve a common ground and I hope the solution reached by the ArbCom and the community would be at least somewhat helpful this time. To ensure that other users from both sides do not confuse the discussion we had above (which I think fairly illustrates the views from both of us), I archived it. If you change your mind and have any suggestions, please start a new section. --Irpen 22:29, 2 October 2008 (UTC) QuestionRe statement here [56]- would you say salting is an abuse of adminstrative powers? It looks as though it takes another admin to undo [57]. And they say this is not a bureaucracy...IMO Byzantium would be impressed.Novickas (talk) 20:58, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
I think that the best thing for all of us is to practice good conduct. While you preach AGF, you, within the same phrase, accuse FP in the lack of it. Is not it ironic, Vecrumba? The judgment on salting redirects is based not on "assumptions" but on actions. Move-blank-restore within a minute (per Martin) done once is strange in the least. When done more than once, it isn't just "strange" but suggestive. Move+template, when done by Piotrus could have been innocuous. But its being done 1) repeatedly, 2) often in response to a disagreeable to Piotrus move and 3) always with a redirect from non-Polish to a Polish name and never vice-versa, is a pattern of actions that calls for attention. I agree with you that "we're rather tired of all this". For example, should I have taken this as an example of ABF on your part? I did not think so. You saw me around for a while and while I viewed this comment of yours you made on myself grossly unfair, I saw just that: unfair rather than "bad-assuming". You and I are editing for a long time and if you conclude from my edits that I "had no intent to actually discuss anything on the talk page (as in, await an explanation), [and was] merely rendering my verdict (of bad faith)", so be it. You assume nothing. You conclude. Trouble is, Vecrumba, not in "assumptions" but in sneaky conduct. My calls to Piotrus (and everyone) was to accept a straightforward ethics code based on few simple and basic rules such as no off-line canvassing, no off-line coordination in revert wars, no block-shopping (particularly no off-line block-shopping). I have no problem with you sticking to your POV. Neither I have a problem with you (or Martin or Piotrus) corresponding with anyone or each other (or not corresponding). I only have a problem when Wikipedia matters are handled non-transparently and unethically, either to "win" content disputes, like in the EE conflicts, or to achieve advances in the alternative to real life careers on Wikipedia. I am a very imperfect wikipedian. For example my POV may be different from yours, my English is not as good as yours (and especially as Horlo's who ridicules my English left and right) and, being human, I say things as I see them (perhaps just as you do and often not in the same light as you do.) But I do not engage in off-line coordination of revert wars. I do not email around asking to block (or unblock) anyone. I do not follow people around and stack all the material I can find aiming at having someone blocked at the opportune time. And, note, I never accused you in doing that either. I would simply like that everyone followed these simple rules. This is the core of my workshop proposal. P.S. And I do not move-blank-restore redirects either. Neither you do, btw. --Irpen 19:20, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
(od) "This" will only work if we accept that...
I will change your POV no more than you will change mine. But there is one more factor in writing articles, particularly about history, which is...
So, the question is, how do we create by consensus reputably sourced articles written in a cohesive narrative which will most likely not completely reflect our own POV?
KostomarovSo, can I move the page or do you disagree with the move? And why is the current title "Nikolay" and not "Nikolai" as it is in the text? Nikolay seems to be the most uncommon of all of them! Ostap 05:41, 11 October 2008 (UTC) GianoI haven't said anything to Giano in over a year. Fred Talk 01:28, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
DigwurenI do not appreciate your personal attacks, nor your assumption of bad faith, in [61]. Please avoid such in the future; Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Piotrus 2/Workshop#There are no 'get out of jail free' cards on Wikipedia. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 17:27, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
While I appreciate your effort in promoting civility, I regretfully note that you have not actually withdrawn the personal attack mentioned above. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 23:22, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Old mapsI have stumbled on a well of old maps from the 1943 reprint of Carlton Hayes's A Political and Cultural History of Modern Europe. The copyright has 1939 on it, so it is not expired quite yet; however, I believe I can scan them and put them up with proper referencing. Please advise. --Ivan2007 (По-балакаемo?) 03:12, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
HelloHi Irpen, I just wanted to apologize for calling you a Russian nationalist edit warrior at one point. Well, I still think you're a Russian nationalist, which is OK, nobody is perfect; and you do sometimes go into edit-warring; well who doesn't, I'm working myself on this bad habit. But you're clearly an intelligent person and have shown that you listen to reason, the qualities that are more important than someone's personal biases I think. So I hope there are no hard feelings and feel free to call me any names you like in case an opportunity arises. All the best!--Termer (talk) 06:39, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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Please see the above link to read the full case. For the Arbitration Committee, Ryan PostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 10:04, 23 December 2008 (UTC) CommiserationsIrpen, I just want to offer you my commiserations. You seem to have left wikipedia ... I hope you are doing well nonetheless. Maybe it is for the best given en.wiki's circumstances if you do join Ghirla or something in ru.wiki, or give wiki up for better things in real life. I can see, with all the users who apparently dislike you, how you might feel it will be impossible to contribute to the encyclopedia without being bullied and ignored now you have these restrictions. It is my fault for launching such a case; I was naive about the quality of the arbitrators and the process, and about how easily the process could be hijacked. Your contributions to Ukrainian topics will be missed if you have indeed decided to leave. Probably because of your support for Giano and your continued appearance on such platforms a large portion of the arbs became badly disposed towards you. Just politics, the nature of the wiki beast. If it means anything I think the vast majority of editors in this area are nice people when their ideological backs are not up. Maybe there is hope in the longer term, if you do decide to return. Probably most e-e users, even the ones you have had some bad times with, would not actually want you to leave. Have a good Christmas! All the best, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 10:54, 23 December 2008 (UTC) Possibly unfree File:Battle of the cruiser chervona ukraina.jpgAn image that you uploaded or altered, File:Battle of the cruiser chervona ukraina.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the image description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Magog the Ogre (talk) 13:07, 23 December 2008 (UTC) --Magog the Ogre (talk) 13:07, 23 December 2008 (UTC) Possibly unfree File:Brest borderguards.jpgAn image that you uploaded or altered, File:Brest borderguards.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the image description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Magog the Ogre (talk) 07:11, 24 December 2008 (UTC) --Magog the Ogre (talk) 07:11, 24 December 2008 (UTC) Merry ChristmasHi Irpen, here to wish you a very Merry Christmas and I do hope that you have a lovely New Year. I do realise that you and I got off on the wrong foot this year and I do apologise for that; let us start anew :-) Take care, my friend. ScarianCall me Pat! 16:41, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
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J Milburn (talk) 21:42, 11 March 2011 (UTC) LeontovychHey, I've significantly expanded the article on Mykola Leontovych over the past few months. Thought (maybe more of "hoped") you might be interested in expanding, correcting it, or editing in general to help bring it to good, or even featured status. :-) Request for commentThis message is being sent to you because you have previously edited the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) page. There is currently a discussion that may result in a significant change to Wikipedia policy. Specifically, a consensus is being sought on if the policies of WP:UCN and WP:EN continues to be working policies for naming biographical articles, or if such policies have been replaced by a new status quo. This discussion is on-going at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (use English), and your comments would be appreciated. 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Nomination of Klitschko brothers for deletion A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Klitschko brothers is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted. The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Klitschko brothers until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:16, 9 September 2011 (UTC) Featured article review for Hero of UkraineI have nominated Hero of Ukraine for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. You are receiving this notice because you have been identified as one of the top three editors by edit count. Brad (talk) 17:19, 14 October 2011 (UTC) Orphaned non-free image File:Kiev stadium 1980.jpgThanks for uploading File:Kiev stadium 1980.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media). Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Skier Dude (talk) 03:26, 23 October 2011 (UTC) Possibly unfree File:Filaret and volodymyr.jpgA file that you uploaded or altered, File:Filaret and volodymyr.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Ronhjones (Talk) 00:43, 8 November 2011 (UTC) File permission problem with File:Bieshu.jpgThanks for uploading File:Bieshu.jpg. I noticed that while you provided a valid copyright licensing tag, there is no proof that the creator of the file agreed to license it under the given license. If you created this media entirely yourself but have previously published it elsewhere (especially online), please either
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Possibly unfree File:Brezhnev1936.jpgA file that you uploaded or altered, File:Brezhnev1936.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you object to the listing for any reason. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 00:53, 29 November 2013 (UTC) Orphaned non-free image File:Banach.jpgThanks for uploading File:Banach.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media). Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 14:46, 25 February 2014 (UTC) File permission problem with File:Kultiginanıtı.jpgThanks for uploading File:Kultiginanıtı.jpg. I noticed that while you provided a valid copyright licensing tag, there is no proof that the creator of the file has agreed to release it under the given license. If you are the copyright holder for this media entirely yourself but have previously published it elsewhere (especially online), please either
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