User talk:BenneHey Benne. You will notice, however, that Aramaeans#Modern is completely unsourced, and thus the connection cannot be verified. Perhaps you could add references to that section? Thanks for the link to the Syriac Universal Alliance by the way. That is one source that could possibly be used. I was actually looking for more academic ones however. Khoikhoi 04:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Sébastien de CourtoisThanks for the correction; I wasn't the one who originally added the sources, I just noticed that they were there. What about the other source? (David Gaunt) Khoikhoi 06:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
ReplyWell, according to WP:V, it's our job to say what the sources say. So, if you have Sébastien de Courtois' book, you are more than welcome to add information from it. As for Assyrian people, you can add {{verify source}} to some of the references if you want. However, I consider the Encyclopaedia of the Orient to be a reliable source. It's not a Wikipedia mirror, although many articles use it in Wikipedia (such as Elazığ and Artvin Province). Is this your main concern at the moment? If it is, I'm sure there are tons of other sources out there that can give the same information. Try leaving some comments on the talk page. Khoikhoi 18:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I guess you're right about the Encyclopaedia of the Orient. Perhaps better sources can be found (via Google Scholar or some place else). Khoikhoi 08:14, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
ReNo worries. When I first saw that type of bot-correction I had thought of the same thing, but later I noticed that the wikicode is designed to accomodate it. The bot I am using is utilizing a wiki-designed code cleanup and spellcheck which is updated regularly by the wikicode designers, so I suppose that's how they want it :) Cheers! Baristarim 07:18, 9 April 2007 (UTC) Replaced loanwordsHi. I've made some corrections & left a few comments at Talk:List of replaced loanwords in Turkish. --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 11:33, 12 April 2007 (UTC) Hi benne Hope you are good. I have set up a wiki se following link: http://www.mardaites.com/sdi/index.php?title=Main_Page please visit it if you are interested. It is a new site and not much information yet. And only invited authors can write articles in it so it will have good quality.
The Syro-Aramaic Reading Of The Qur'anHi. The thing I wrote on "The Syro-Aramaic Reading Of The Qur'an" was referenced, first with the quote from a known translation of the Qur'an, and second Lane's Arabic-English Lexicon. What more do I need to do? Abdassamad 18:02, 25 April 2007 (UTC) Hi Benne. You are correct that the "Reverend" before his name is an honorary title used by members of his church. The same could be said about the titles used by almost any organization. I'm not sure what the standard for that here is on WP. I had understood that the title should be used in the first mention of the person's name and then just the family name. I don't consider it such a big thing. He really doesn't need the title. Wishing you well. Steve Dufour 16:22, 4 May 2007 (UTC) I'd be honoured to participate in the project, Benne! And I think I also know some more users who might be also interested in joining. BTW; thanks for helping my and the Ygo Youkes Galama-article; you are right and it doesn't need deletion, just a lot of improving! -)-(-H- (|-|) -O-)-(- 10:50, 30 May 2007 (UTC) Assyrians[2] [3] The truth hurts, doesn't it? :) Face it, the Syriacs are simply Assyrians. No need to start a fuss about this like you always do. — EliasAlucard|Talk 10:46 02 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
Benne, you haven't begun on a unification page yet. Still waiting khon. Chaldean 13:13, 8 August 2007 (UTC) Aramaean peopleShlama Benne, Yes we could just pick out some few stuff to History headline or Orgin headline. but we should not just add a few setence about the present day Aramaens wich include alot of reliigous divided people. like the "Assyrians" they have a assyrian people and acient assyrians. we could do the same just place (Acient) within the Aramaeans article. thanks. Nochi 13:16, 8 August 2007 (UTC) Merkez Jupa/Centar ŽupaWhy you moving article to Turkish name? Official language of the country is Macedonian and names of all other municipalities in all countries are given in official language. Why you think that this one should be exception? 81.18.57.3 19:09, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
GreetingsShlama, I see that u speak aramaic. I am not hre to argue anything, I have only left this message to say hi and just get to know you. I am a lover of knowledge and am very interested in what ethnicity you are. From the looks of it, some Assyrian wikipedians believe you are an Assyrian, but it appears that you relate with Aramaic. So, what do u consider urself to be? I ma very curious, because I like to know about peoples who have lived to this day. Also, what religion, culture, background etc. I am an Assyrian Catholic of Iraqi background. Nice to talk to you, Regards, Tourskin 06:05, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
About Syriacs?Hi Benne,
Syriac words
and words that changed the use of it:
Hello?Can you please answr my question?!
Syriac is the liturgical for Maronites (a religion). The mjority of the Maronites are Syrians? (Siryani in Arabi)? However some are ethnic Arabs who identify as Arabs for example (Al-Mashrouki tribe) many Maronites families come from them. and some claim lineage to the Ghassanids, also many modern Lebanese (regardless of religion) simply claim a Phoenician ethnicity. --Skatewalk 17:32, 26 August 2007 (UTC) You're not helping nor is Elias...Listen, Aramaean, Assyrian, Syriac, Chaldean are all accepted names [not by all of course] for the SAME PEOPLE. The fact of the matter is that we refer to ourselves as "Sourayeh/Souroyeh" in Neo-Syriac/Aramaic which would be translated as "Syrian" and historically was but due to the modern "Arab" state of Syria; Syriac and Assyrian are used in place. Syria and Assyria have common origination according to documented history and professors such as Frye, Nelson. Syria historically refers to the western territories of the Assyrian empire aka Aram and Canaan which would equate to modern day states of Israel, Lebanon, and Syria where if we were to equate modern Assyria with a nation it would be "Iraqi-Kurdistan" where most Iraqi Chaldeans and Assyrians originate from the Nineveh plains. None of these terms are incorrect however Syrian would be used today if not for the nation of "Arab" Syria. The fact is in Syriac we don't say Kaldaya, Aramaya, or Aturaya, maybe in religious contexts or political ones people may say it but everyone regardless of village says Sourayeh which means Syrian and it is used similarly to Armenian or Greek, which may also imply Christian and where Kurd, Turk, or Arab would imply Muslim. Assyrian ancestory isn't a pipe-dream nor is Aramean though less slightly is Chaldean though still not impossible. Towards the latter days of the Assyrian empire Arameans had pretty much Aramaicized much of the near east and with that also become systemized by Assyrian rule hence becoming nationlized in a sense as Assyrians. Assyria was more of a nationality than an ethnicity composed of many different people that had been conquered by the armies of the Assyrian empire. Think of it as an ancient form of America. There are Americans of every origin which I'm not claiming was the case for Assyira but someowhat similar to it. Sharru Kinnu III 17:02, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello thereHey there Benne! I hope you're doing fine. I just wanted to tell that even though things always have not been clear between us I would like to thank you about your participation within the Syriac (Assyrian/Aramean/Chaldean) people. --Yohanun 22:09, 1 November 2007 (UTC)ܦܘܫ ܒܫܠܡܠܐ Tawdi lokh ahuno, ono-ste towo-no. The problem with our people is that the religion comes before the nationalism, we need to realise that we need a unity among us before we can get through the religious problems. We need unity really desperetaly, 50% of our population in Iraq has fled, we are almost extinct in Turkey and Iran. I am very sad for my people since what I and other see is that the Kurds have taken over our ancient cities and villages, and they are claiming it has been theirs since ancient times. Aloho howe am kul suroyo w mshihoyo--Yohanun 22:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
WikiProject FrisiansHi, you are invited to join in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Friesland. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:15, 29 November 2007 (UTC) EliasAlucardI believe it may be of interest that the user user:EliasAlucard has been pemanently blocked from swedish wikipedia, this because of what he has written in syriac/assyrian artikles and discussions [[4]]. And they came to the conclusion that this user could never write NPOV material related to these subjects. They also said the only reason hes editing this articles in wikipedia is in propaganda purposes. In english wiki he wrote this in a discussion (with you it seems) [[5]] that itself hes worth a lifelong ban, regardless him saying he was not serious. Pardon my bad english, but english isn't my best subject, i thought this little information could be of interest for you, that this user is not in any ways objective. The TriZ (talk) 01:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
I never even said i am religous, but you have said many things about your assyrian propaganda. Including that you will use people who refrain themselfs as arameans as slaves and that you want the aramean people and language to be destroyed and forgotten, and much more than that. You clearly have an assyrian agenda and your using wikipedia to spread your propaganda. I would easily prove this, if it was in swedish, lucky for you my knowledge in the english language isn't even close to my swedish. The TriZ (talk) 16:37, 1 February 2008 (UTC) Cooperation boardI invite you to Wikipedia:Assyrian-Syriac wikipedia cooperation board Chaldean (talk) 03:56, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
East/West Syriacs articlesBenne, I have moved them because they lacked sources. They have been tagged for ages. They clearly talked about the Jacobite/Nestorian groups. You have any sources establishing any other groups, I suggest you create articles on them separately. We cannot keep articles based on WP:SYN and selected soundbites from random sources indefinitely just because some ethnic patriots "disagree". It works the other way round: provide sources, and then create sub-articles. I appreciate you are willing to actually make coherent statements (as opposed to Chaldean, who prefers to behave like ELIZA). You will still need to recognize that reliable sources are a non-negotiable prerequisite here. I appreciate your inside knowledge, too, which will allow you to sort out confusing situations quickly, but at the end of the day, it will not replace actual sources. dab (𒁳) 14:01, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
AkbulutDon't delete reliable source just because you don't like them. Chaldean (talk) 20:56, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
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Why don't you add 'FY' to your Babel list on your user page? Or maybe FY-3 or FY-4? You're also participating in the Wikiproject Friesland, right? Guess you're a frisian, then :) Dr. F.C. Turner - [USERPAGE|USERTALK] - 18:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC) Hi Benne, Do you think you can contribute to the article? We need more text in the Culture section, like traditions and cuisine etc. also if you can add more text in the article? thank you AramaeanSyriac (talk) 22:18, 18 September 2008 (UTC) SeyfoHi Benne, I hope your well. I'm writing to you cause I want your opinion on a thing and I would appreciate if you could take the time to give me your thoughts. If I had a copy of a letter written by president Wilson 1914, an open letter to the American people, where he speaks about whats happening to the Armenian and the Syrian peoples, plus different posters from that time by Armenians in the States where they appeal to the American people for money to starving "Armenians, Syrians and Greeks". Do you believe this is of importance and can make a difference (in the "Assyrian Genocide"-article in particular)? Take Care. The TriZ (talk) 19:58, 21 October 2008 (UTC) Posters like this, [6]. This goes against all the lies that EliasAlucard & the rest are saying, that the poeple has only been mentioned as Assyrians. The TriZ (talk) 16:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC) I have some of these, [7]. And this is the President Wilson letter, [8]. I've got it to. The TriZ (talk) 16:59, 23 October 2008 (UTC) I uploaded it here, [9]. The TriZ (talk) 20:00, 23 October 2008 (UTC) RfD nomination of Assyro-Chaldeans/miniprojectI have nominated Assyro-Chaldeans/miniproject (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. MBisanz talk 00:59, 28 October 2008 (UTC) Please join discussionIn [[10]]. Thank you JeanVinelorde (talk) 12:12, 15 April 2009 (UTC) Hi, Benne! Sorry to disturb you, but I saw from this category that you are a member of WikiProject Turkey, and the List of sultans of the Ottoman Empire is currently a featured list candidate. If you could take some of your time and review it on its nomination page, I would be very grateful. Regards. --BomBom (talk) 02:59, 24 April 2009 (UTC) Your voice is neededTalk:Assyrian/Syriac_diaspora#Request_Move. The TriZ (talk) 00:52, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Assyria After The EmpireYou dispute the section on Neo Assyrian Empire that is concerned with Assyrian continued existence. Saying that is disputed. Its not actually disputed by modern Assyriologists. I have added links to support this, and am prepared to add further non POV links if necessary. Its pretty much accepted that the name Assyria continued to be used after the fall, by the Achamaenids, Greeks, Parthians, Romans and Sassanids. Not to mention in Armenian and Georgian references. Likewise Native Mesopotamian religion, which is known to have survived well into the Christian era. People have designated themselves as Assyrian for many centuries. Of course, the culture changed, even at the time of the Empire Aramaic was replacing Akkadian, and Manicheanism and Christianity replaced Ashurism, that is true of all ancient cultures, including the Greeks. The view that Assyria was completely devastated and its people literally wiped off the face of the earth is dated, and now largely discredited by more modern Assyriologists, Archaeologists, Ethnologists and Historians. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sinharib99 (talk • contribs) 19:40, 8 March 2010 (UTC) ReviewerHello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged protection, is currently undergoing a two-month trial scheduled to end 15 August 2010. Reviewers can review edits made by users who are not autoconfirmed to articles placed under pending changes. Pending changes is applied to only a small number of articles, similarly to how semi-protection is applied but in a more controlled way for the trial. The list of articles with pending changes awaiting review is located at Special:OldReviewedPages. For the guideline on reviewing, see Wikipedia:Reviewing. Being granted reviewer rights doesn't change how you can edit articles even with pending changes. The general help page on pending changes can be found here, and the general policy for the trial can be found here. If you do not want this userright, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. Tiptoety talk 06:59, 12 July 2010 (UTC) Notification: changes to "Mark my edits as minor by default" preferenceHello there. This is an automated message to tell you about the gradual phasing out of the preference entitled "Mark all edits minor by default", which you currently have (or very recently had) enabled. On 13 March 2011, this preference was hidden from the user preferences screen as part of efforts to prevent its accidental misuse (consensus discussion). This had the effect of locking users in to their existing preference, which, in your case, was For established users such as yourself there is a workaround available involving custom JavaScript. With the script in place, you can continue with this functionality indefinitely (its use is governed by WP:MINOR). If you have any problems, feel free to drop me a note. Thank you for your understanding and happy editing :) Editing on behalf of User:Jarry1250, LivingBot (talk) 18:28, 15 March 2011 (UTC) proposed merge of Church of the East with the Assyrian Church of EastPlease note that Article Church of the East deals with all the historical branches of the East Syriac Christianity, now split in three different bodies: ACoE, Chaldean Church, Ancient Church of East. Even before the the split the body now known as ACoE, at the time known as Qochanis Patriarchate, was only one of the branches of the Church. So a merge, which I oppose, would be very POV. A ntv (talk) 10:40, 26 July 2011 (UTC) Ichthus: January 2012
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