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Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Western Australia/Perth archive
SuburbsFirst off, nice work on the suburb categories Shinjiman. I'd like to help you out with WikiProject Perth. You might have noticed that I started the list of Perth suburbs and created stubs for a lot of those suburbs, I just haven't had a chance (or the motivation) to create the rest. For information about the suburbs I've found DOLA, REIWA and the local councils websites have been useful, although I've still got to read the copyright info for DOLA. If you need assistance with anything please let me know, otherwise I'm going to continue adding suburbs. Meesham 09:42, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC) Is there anyone have the comments about the Article naming for the suburbs? Seems some names are names as [Suburb A, Western Australia], but some of them are named [Suburb B, Australia] or [Suburb C]. Is that we need to unite them to a uniform naming conveetions?? :) Shinjiman 16:20, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC) When I started adding some I only added Australia or Western Australia to disambig with other articles. Other editors have been changing some of them over to [Suburb, Western Australia], and for ones that I've been working on recently I've been changing them over to that format too. I think [Suburb, Western Australia] would be the best format, so that would be my vote. Meesham 16:38, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC) Support. :D Shinjiman 03:42, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC) If we don't get any other responses in the next couple of days we should probably just go ahead with changing them, I've already been changing a couple as I go along. I think South Perth is now a good example of what we should try to aim for for atleast the local council pages, maybe all of the suburb pages. This is thanks mainly to an anonymous user (203.59.82.69) who added a lot of the history, although finding history for the other suburbs will probably be difficult. The only thing that page is missing now in my opinion is a map of the area, showing the boundaries of the suburb and/or the local council. It could probably also do with a bit more information about the current state of South Perth, like popular areas etc (I'm not too sure, as I'm a northerner :) ) Meesham 10:32, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC) Hi guys, I've finally worked out how to contribute (I think I've got it right!) to this page. I only recently discovered the Wikipages and more as an experiment than deliberate intent, I decided to add some material to the South Perth page. Mainly this was because my Wife works for the City and I pick up lots of useful history and information. The COSP webpage has a lot of information about suburb and street name history; I know because I did a lot of web research for her at home. The pages are buried very deep in the website but are worth searching for. The REIWA website is singularly unhelpful. I've also done a bit on Waterford, for the same reasons as above, and also added some stuff about Dianella. --Robert Fraser 07:49, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC) Suburb InfoboxesLike the infoboxes for the train/bus stations, should there be one for suburbs? Such contents could be name, a picture with the dot on where the suburb is, public transport in the suburb, parks, gardens, lakes, attractions etc? EDIT: Found one that exists, tried an example with Innaloo, Western Australia Trisreed my talk my contribs 09:38, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
Added and changed parts to suggestions. It is also set so that the dot map is based on the name of the council. Trisreed my talk my contribs 09:22, 31 October 2005 (UTC) No Dot Map - Find a free alternative to this? Maybe a similar picture of the zoomed out metro area? Boochan 11:08, 31 October 2005 (UTC) How about a representative picture instead of the dot? I tried for characteristic images for Mt Lawley, Inglewood and, to a lesser extent, Cottesloe. More informative than a dot, and once the Kvaleberg extension (the {{coor d||N/S||E/W|}}-Template that gives locations such as 31°57′07″S 115°51′32″E / 31.952°S 115.859°E) is implemented fully (like in the German wikipedia; see the top of this page for example), the dots may well be irrelevant - Gobeirne 18:09, 31 October 2005 (UTC) Great Idea. We got pictures of all the train/bus stations, so why not try and get indivdual pictures of places in suburbs that are well known? Boochan 23:28, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
User:Gnangarra/Suburbs is a page that Gnangarra and myself have been using. Please make use of it to allow those preforming tasks to know whats been done, and what hasn't. --Spook (my talk | my contribs) 05:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Better than studying :D. I wrote this up, took the photos, hope it helps. --Sclozza 04:31, 18 November 2005 (UTC) Expansion of suburb articlesI have expanded quite a few articles, including: Shenton Park, Western Australia Floreat, Western Australia Jolimont, Western Australia Daglish, Western Australia Highgate, Western Australia Karrakatta, Western Australia Wembley Downs, Western Australia. I was just wondering if the way i have done these is alright and if not, please feel free to add/change them. Thanks --Ali K 08:57, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Suburb for Perth Airport and NewburnI've found out there's a suburb called Perth Airport, and its postcode is 6105. Is that really exist at this moment? and also, I also cannot find the suburb called Newburn (its postcode is 6104), but I've found out this suburb exists in the old version of Perth map (around 1990s version), is that really exists nowadays?--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 16:53, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Completed SuburbsThe project page for WP:PERTH shows a progress bar with 94 of 350 suburb articles being listed as complete. Where is the list of complete suburb articles, and how do we add one or increase the counter if we have completed another? I have just expanded Ballajura quite a bit. -- Renesis13 09:22, 17 March 2006 (UTC) Naming conventions of Perth suburbs and Perth LGAsIt's quite common that one of the Perth suburb is the name of LGAs. Is that needed to disambig (split) the articles that explaining the suburb itself, and the other explaining the LGA? And also some LGAs is not containing the suburb itself, is that better to change the article name to the LGA name (like [City of ..., Western Australia], [Town of ... Western Australia] and [Shire of ..., Western Australia])?--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 04:58, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
use of clarifier (xxx ,Western Australia)I came across this article Perth Airport, its on a redirect from Perth Airport, Western Australia. Places using "Perth" like this should have the clarifier(DAB) added in every case, with redirects coming from the general title. When other Perths add articles the rediect page can become a DAB page. Gnangarra 16:17, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Category:Local Government Areas of PerthAnd while we're on the subject, I would very much like to see this category obliterated. There are no local government areas of Perth; there are only local government areas of Western Australia that just happen to be in the Perth metropolitan area. How do people feel about me depopulating this into Category:Local Government Areas of Western Australia and deleting it? Hesperian 23:12, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
This article has been butchered since July. Hesperian 05:58, 27 November 2007 (UTC) House valuesThe conversation has taken place in other forums as well, but I'm raising this specifically with regard to Perth. Is there a need for the housing value to be in each of the suburb articles? Reason I ask is that it has to be updated every 3 months, but updating 338 articles is actually quite a challenge, especially if the formatting on each article is not the same. I updated any marked (Q2 2006) to (Q3 2006) today. Orderinchaos 03:27, 21 January 2007 (UTC) I'd rather see an external link to someone else who can provide upto date current economic data, such as the WA Dept of Treasury and Finance http://www.dtf.wa.gov.au petedavo 11:31, 30 January 2007 (UTC) Featured article reviewDear all, I've placed Hamersley, Western Australia for review. I would appreciate third party input into this rather than those attached to this article. Wikipedia:Featured article review/Hamersley, Western Australia Michellecrisp 07:43, 6 July 2007 (UTC) Hamersley, Western Australia has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:05, 8 July 2007 (UTC) TransportFreeways, Highways & Major RoadsNewcomer here... Just letting you guys know I just completed a detailed article of the Mitchell Freeway & Kwinana Freeway and I will probably do many more articles on the major Perth Highways & Roads. Either Clean them up or create new ones? Anyone wishing to help or supply pictures? Boochan 13:44, 6 October 2005 (UTC) I say clean up & add when it exists, and new ones when there are not any. I am willing to help content such as lists of interchanges. Also think dont just ones with routes allocated. Trisreed my talk my contribs 09:49, 14 October 2005 (UTC) I'll supply pictures if you want, just tell me what you want and I'll see what I can do. Spook 06:26, 18 February 2006 (UTC) StationsFor currently, I have doing about the Train Stations and Bus Stations in Perth, which are provided by Transperth. Also, I have done about 3 Train Stations in Perth, but proposed to adding a infobox on the top right hand corner. The box at the bottom are created similar as WikiProject Melbourne. Hopfully can finished them soon. :-) --Shinjiman 12:57, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
The infobox that're proposed should be like this (that will be created later):
(users can edit the table above to include the information that should have for the train/bus station.) --Shinjiman 13:13, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC) Just updated Perth Train Station for the trial of this kind of template. --Shinjiman 17:56, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC) Changed a variablle from platform_style to platform_arch for better meaning. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 02:30, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC) Just added a new attribute: street --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 03:51, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC) Change a attribute from esclators to escalators. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 15:44, 1 May 2005 (UTC) Just added a attribute security into the Bus Station template. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 8 July 2005 14:30 (UTC) I just noticed that the midland and fremantle line stations are not showing up in the transperth catrgoy. Trisreed Changed a variable from faregates into station_struct to stat more clearly that is a open station or closed station.--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 08:48, 30 October 2005 (UTC) Stations orderAs the stations names are shown, which way to shown the direction from/to Perth is better?
also, which way to shown the Thornlie Spur Line is better?
Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 11:34, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC) Use perth as the centre station, that's where it all starts. Sandstorm6299 13:08, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC) I take that back, i think revert to beckenham-thornlie (my bad, sorry), since that is the physical connection, but in the armadale line page, use the patterns to indicate no stopping at beckenham Sandstorm6299 15:00, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) ~ Depot boxes is moved to below. ~ Also, the new station is opening sunday, so we can hopefully get a picture for it Good job on the WikiProject, Shinjiman Trisreed 8:17, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC) Gonna to be rushI will gonna to be rushing about those articles except Mandurah Line, and hopfully finishes in these one to two weeks. The progress becomes lots faster than before. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 8 July 2005 14:30 (UTC) Dash or SlashAccording to the Armadale Line Timetable, the title used is [Armadale / Thornlie Line]; also in the Stopping Pattern in the Armadale Line Timetable, the word [Armadale - Thornlie Line] is used, also this is used on the display in the Perth Station platforms. So which form of display is more correct, a / or a - ??? --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 01:28, 6 August 2005 (UTC) Right now, I think they are being treated as 2 separate lines: Armadale Line and Thornlie Line... it's just that they share the same stations all the way to Cannington, and they share the same colour code. I think it would be best to put Armadale/Thornlie Line, as that is what is printed on the front of the timetable, and also the Transperth website. But I think it might be best to wait until something official comes out. Oh and were you there at the Thornlie station opening ceremony this morning? Just wondering... Sandstorm6299 12:22, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
Depot boxes~ Moved from above ~ Also, as the bus depots are mentioned in Path Transit and the train depots in Transperth Trains, maybe there could be a depot box? Trisreed 8:17, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC) ~ end moving ~
More about stations...Maybe you could add whether it is level, underground, or above ground station? Trisreed 05:21, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
I've got a large number of images detailing the construction work for the William St and Esplanade stations up until April this year, when I left Perth. If anyone wants me to upload some or all of these for inclusion on the as yet unwritten pages for these two stations, let me know! - Gobeirne 00:02, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
About Train Station succession boxes
This is the sample train lines milestone which appears throughout the electric poles in Perth railway lines. The first row indicates the train section. The second and the third rows are indicates the distance from Perth Station. and the fourth row indicates the direction of the line. According those information on the pole, we can determine the information for the train lines, which includes: In general, up direction are towards Fremantle, and vice versa for down direction. In original, I've created the train station articles according to the train lines track directions order. See also Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Melbourne/Railway_stations#Up_and_Down for reference about in Melbourne. But however, which way to express the train succession boxes are better? Better need to know the others opinion... --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 16:28, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
Train InfoboxesI noticed in the train infoboxes there is a new section called 'SmartRider Format'. Is this needed? Most of the articles have no details for this and 'Fare Gates' has the same purpose ie if there is not fare gates, it is a mobile processor. Trisreed my talk my contribs 08:14, 24 October 2005 (UTC) Will be fairly important as the Smartrider is released January 2006. Fairly big difference between the two. Boochan 11:48, 24 October 2005 (UTC) I agree... this should definitley be kept. It is much more important than some of the other info on there like phone etc. --Djone2121 11:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
I've implemented the changes for the train station, better saying the [Station structure]. It is because the open/closed station not only applies on the SmartRider holder, also it applies on the other tickets holders including cash tickets and MultiRiders.--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 08:48, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
I have implemented the value [avm] in the infoboxes to indicate the station have Add Value Machines or not. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 04:53, 12 December 2005 (UTC) SmartRider Student CardI have one of the new student SmartRider cards as issued by Perth schools. If you need any information about it just ask me. I would scan it in, but I am not sure if that would break copyright law. Deganom 11:52, 24 October 2005 (UTC) So do I. I am using mine at the moment as a member of the Control Group. Let me know if you need info. fyi. the smartcard chip is located on the top left corner - put it up to an optical mouse and you can see it --Djone2121 11:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC) Control Group? Deganom 11:59, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Shouldn't need to scan pictures.. PTA has sufficient pictures of the smartrider cards on there websites. Information is also very plentiful. Boochan 13:10, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Bus servicesjust a few issues to address 1. should we put all connecting bus services for all stations.. example: Oats Street is considered a station with connecting bus services (with bus stands) but Shinjiman has also put other routes which don't have an allocated official stand i.e. 282 and 283.. so should this be the case for all other stations? e.g. Kenwick is not officially a station with connecting bus services, but 220 passes by the station along Albany Highway 2. the Esplanade Busport page is in a mess, maybe putting all the bus stands in order, then showing which company owns which service by colour? like all sWAn Transit can be in orange, then Southern Coast Transit in red and Path Transit in green? Sandstorm6299 08:50, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Past public transport proposal detailsJust found out about the past public transport details in 1997, and it's the 10 year plan proposed system for the public transport, I've seen there's much information are included at there.... [3] --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 17:00, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
William Street works photos Wikimedia Commons has media related to William St, Perth, Western Australia. For those who are interested, I've added 20 photos of the William St demolition works
for the New MetroRail project to Wikimedia Commons. Gobeirne 08:04, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Train stations platformsSeveral stations have been changed into tables, however, some tables are broken (table goes to bottom). And a sample article are running in trail expressing the platforms in table. (Broken table: Perth Station by M Johnson, fixed table: Armadale Station by me, and the original text version Midland Station). By comparing these versions, we've got the main difference including:
It needs to know others comments about the opinions to having a proposed change to stations articles. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 15:17, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Line NamingI was just looking at Innaloo and Hillarys articles the train line is referred to the joondalup lime on innaloo and the northern line on hillarys what should the train lines be referred to as. i've always thought they are midland, armadale, freo, joondalup and now mandurah. Can someone confirm the names and then we need to ensure the suburbs are consistant with what ever format Gnangarra 10:08, 7 February 2006 (UTC) The lines are indeed the Joondalup, Midland, Fremantle, Armadale, Thornlie, and Mandurah lines. These are the official names. Sandstorm6299 10:12, 21 May 2006 (UTC) New Line TemplatesArnzy has recently introduced a new template to the Perth station page. I have readily accepted this change, and I have even contributed to it by adding several things to it. But now I have found that I may have added more additions than necessary. I would like to know what is truly necessary? Obviously, we need the line, previous and next stations, and the colours. Will it be necessary to fit in the patterns and zones as well? (see Claisebrook to see what I am referring to.) I have found the previous template more than adequate, but Arnzy may have changed to this template to make all rail line templates in wikipedia the same. Sandstorm6299 10:12, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Nice job Trisreed on adjusting the template. I guess I'm not very good at creating a good one. I'll get back to my usual updating and editing. Thanks again for clearing the terrible attempt I made! Sandstorm6299 13:53, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi guys, a short intro, I'm Arnzy, and in general I'm a railfan that has travelled on Brisbane, Sydney, Adelaide and Perth systems. Getting onto things, as you all know, I was the one to implement this style of template to keep it to consistency with most other rail systems. However, the improvements to the template have been good ones as it does suit the Transperth rail system perfectly with the many running patterns and so on. Good work. --Arnzy (whats up?) 11:45, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Applied template to all stations on Armadale/Thornlie Line. Sandstorm6299 17:37, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
I have adapted the new Transperth template and made one for the Transwa services (see the Transwa template). Hope this keeps a bit more uniformity between the metro and regional rail services in the Perth pages. Now only the Indian Pacific is left, but it would be pretty weird to change only the WA pages (East Perth and Kalgoorlie) since the rest of the stations are in SA and NSW. Sandstorm6299 05:50, 1 July 2006 (UTC) I've seen this article, seems the name has been changed into Garden City Bus Station by Bergoine, is that the name of the station has been changed? Seems these changes is not verifiable, and cannot found in the Transperth website, which is in official. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 17:55, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
I have reverted the following: Booragoon bus station, Perth, Cannington railway station, Perth, Esplanade Busport, Perth, Canning Bridge bus station, Perth, Curtin University bus station, Perth, Murdoch Park 'n' Ride, Perth, Rockingham bus station, Success Park 'n' Ride, Perth and List of Perth bus stations Sandstorm6299 11:56, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Train station sucession boxesSome changes to the succession boxes for the station made by yours truly make the Joondalup line head in the same direction of Fremantle, as they do in real life. So the revised track direction looks like this; This doesn't have appeared to have caused any conflicts, so it will stay like this hopefully. Also, regarding the Mandurah line, when it does come into service we should have the track direction the same way as Armadale/Thornlie and Midland, since it heads in that direction, and the Clarkson line will carry on to Mandurah--M W Johnson 06:59, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Confusing Train Station Navigation BoxesFor someone who is not from Perth, I find the new railway station navigation boxes confusing - for someone unfamiliar with the railway line stop categorisations, even if you can go to the Line page and look at it, it is very confusing if all you want to know is what the adjacent stations are Every other railway system with pages on Wikipedia does it this way and it is a lot easier to navigate. I suggest you put them back to just show the next station on each page or find a way to put the letter codes and the next stations on the navigation table. (JROBBO 01:30, 8 June 2006 (UTC)) Well, we tried making it as simple and yet as comprehensive as possible so that we would cover every bit of information on the routes. I don't seem to see anyway to improve it, but maybe that's because I'm from Perth, so that's why I can't pick out the bad points. Maybe you could suggest what could be done to improve it. I'm sure people here will be willing to discuss. Here is the current template being used at Perth railway station for reference: {{Transperth Line|
name=Perth|
zone=<font color=red>'''Free Transit Zone'''</font>|
line_line1=[[Midland railway line, Perth|Midland Line]]|
previous_line1=''to [[Fremantle railway line, Perth|Fremantle Line]]''|
next_line1=[[McIver railway station, Perth|McIver]]|
nextzones_line1=<font color=red>'''Free Transit Zone'''</font>|
pattern_line1=All, A, B, E|
previouszones_line1=|
color_line1=A90056|
line_line2=[[Fremantle railway line, Perth|Fremantle Line]]|
previous_line2=''to [[Midland railway line, Perth|Midland Line]]''|
next_line2=[[City West railway station, Perth|City West]]|
nextzones_line2=<font color=red>'''Free Transit Zone'''</font>|
pattern_line2=All, A, B, K, L, S|
previouszones_line2=|
color_line2=005A9C|
line_line3=[[Armadale railway line, Perth|Armadale / Thornlie Line]]|
previous_line3=''terminus''|
next_line3=[[McIver railway station, Perth|McIver]]|
nextzones_line3=<font color=red>'''Free Transit Zone'''</font>|
pattern_line3=All, C, E, T|
previouszones_line3=|
color_line3=FEBE10|
line_line4=[[Joondalup railway line, Perth|Joondalup Line]]|
previous_line4=''to [[Mandurah railway line, Perth|Mandurah Line]]''|
next_line4=[[Leederville railway station, Perth|Leederville]]|
nextzones_line4=<font color=green>'''Zone 1'''</font>|
pattern_line4=All, W|
previouszones_line4=|
color_line4=A6AA12|
line_line5=[[Joondalup railway line, Perth|Joondalup Line]]|
previous_line5=''to [[Mandurah railway line, Perth|Mandurah Line]]''|
next_line5=[[Warwick railway station, Perth|Warwick]]|
nextzones_line5=<font color=green>'''Zone 2'''</font>|
pattern_line5=C|
previouszones_line5=|
color_line5=A6AA12|
line_line6=[[Mandurah railway line, Perth|Mandurah Line]]|
previous_line6=''to [[Joondalup railway line, Perth|Joondalup Line]]''|
next_line6=[[Esplanade railway station, Perth|Esplanade]]|
nextzones_line6=<font color=red>'''Free Transit Zone'''</font>|
pattern_line6=|
previouszones_line6=|
color_line6=E06F1D}}
Sandstorm6299 11:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Improvements and feedback on Warwick railway station, PerthThis article has been bugging me for a few days since I saw the extremely poor state it's history section was in (only a single line). Since then I've given it a massive kick in the bum, and after collecting what I knew about the station and matching it up to information found at LISWA this afternoon, the section has been totally re-written from scratch including appropriate referencing and whatever else was warranted. If anyone has the time, i'd appreciate any feedback you'd feel like passing on -- Thewinchester (talk) 16:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Australian transport navbox consolidationFor the interest of WA editors, i've opened up discussion on AWNB on consolidation of Australia's transport navboxes. This has been prompted by the creation of yet another transport-related navbox this morning which has infested a number of Perth transport articles. Your thoughts and input on the matter before I go ahead with this would be appreciated. Thewinchester (talk) 04:23, 14 May 2007 (UTC) Perth old railways (route maps)Hi to all interested. Seeing that Thewinchester had added rail maps for the suburban lines. I have created rail maps for Eastern Railway, Upper Darling Range Railway and Mundaring Weir Branch Line. I hope that someone who has more knowledge in this area can double check the maps first for accuracy before they are added into the articles. If any corrections need to be made, you can mention them here, or you can have a try at editing the maps yourself using the resources from Wikipedia:Railway line template. 리지강.wa.au 21:05, 11 June 2007 (UTC) Template:Transperth LineThere's a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains#Transperth boxes over a possible replacement for {{Transperth Line}} and associated templates. Best, Mackensen (talk) 15:01, 21 July 2007 (UTC) Most project members are probably out partying/asleep/ or offline at the moment this arrived - 11.00 pm saturday night - I have every intention of joining in there tommorow SatuSuro 15:10, 21 July 2007 (UTC) WarwickHi all. After browsing through certain articles, I have noticed that this is rather overexposed, and has a random(?) person in the picture that is quite possibly recognisable. Now I know I might be seen as picky, but is someone able to take a picture of this station from the lower level without these factors? Just a personal thing that has been eating at me for a while. --Ali K 13:03, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Photos of New Perth stationsEsplanade Station and the new William St platforms opened today. Does anyone have any photos (or can anyone get some) of the new platforms? JRG 06:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Transperth line coloursIn thinking about the coming opening of the Mandurah line, I’ve begun to wonder about the most appropriate way to represent it when updating my map of the railways (see Transperth Trains), so I thought I’d bring it here. Even though the Joondalup and Mandurah lines are to form one complete north-to-south route (and, indeed, already do as far as Esplanade), Transperth have chosen to give each of them an individual colour. So far, I’ve been showing the Mandurah line separately, in its official colour, but is this the best choice? Is it more important to reflect official usage, or to represent the actual service operated? David Arthur (talk) 23:30, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
East Perth railway stationHey guys, it's been a while. I notice that on the templates for Perth railway stations that all of the the links to East Perth station link to East Perth railway station, Perth; this is only a redirect to East Perth railway station. I've tried to correct this, but because of the complex s-line templates that the articles now use I can't figure out how. Can anyone fix this please? --M W Johnson 01:55, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Duplicate route maps on rail line articlesWe have an article that has no refs or cites - yet it now has more graphic info than one can poke a stick at - this is a project wide issue - please see talk at:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Western_Australia - thanks SatuSuro 07:41, 11 March 2008 (UTC) Transperth train line mapI am currently making a transperth trainline map like the one on their trains - it will have some extra information on it unlike their one!--Jlong2008 (talk) 09:54, 16 March 2008 (UTC) StreetsPerth Streets - an opinionI recently received this message on my talk page after asking User:SatuSuro if he could provide a reference for the information he added to Forrest Place. Some interesting ideas are brought up, and I thought you guys might want to comment. Thanks, --Ali K 14:15, 15 July 2006 (UTC) "Hi Ali, thanks for the message. I was accidentally cruising the Perth Street entries on Perth Stubs. I will refrain what I think of most of the entries. Someone needs to set a much higher standard - if not a template example- just compare St Geos Tce with Murray St and Forrest Place - As for the Forrest Place entry, refs are the last thing I am thinking of when I check the other streets, the inconsistency and mess is more important to cleanup at this stage, it's as though they are not in the same city. One: someone needs to do a template map of the cbd. Two: someone needs to check books rather than links to web pages with almost irrelevent info. There is a very strong need for a very strong editorial broom through the weird and wonderful collection of Perth Stubs. Unfortunately I have neither the time at the moment, or the sufficient sense of humour to cope with issues that will no doubt arise. Maybe someone else will take up the call. Refs later, consistency and thinks to tie it all together like a map or box for each entry.User:SatuSuro 13:58, 15 July 2006 (UTC)"
Perth Street Article TitlesFollowing a recent change - it is obvious a consensus is needed ( possibly with explanation of background - to refer to editors who might not have been part of the extensive issues in the formatting of names of places and things in australia in general) and a policy needs to be made about how Perth streets and article titles fit into the greater scheme of things before we have divergent title usage. SatuSuro 06:10, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
<-- (edit conflict)*Olive branch I think the bracket street (perth, western australia) convention is a lot cleaner. That also the reasoning for use at WP:Australian places. We also need to consider names like Queen st, Aberdeen st as I think it would be likely that our friends in Scotland will probably have those names. Gnangarra 11:26, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
So what do people think should be the way we move forward on Perth street/road articles? Orderinchaos 00:35, 17 December 2006 (UTC) General discussionStub templatesDiscussion on the naming of stub templates relating to this and other Australian city wikiprojects is in progress at WP:WSS/P#Australian cities. Feel free to comment. Grutness...wha? 01:45, 23 September 2005 (UTC) UpdateThe changeover to the new stub types for Perth hs been done. There are only two minor changes:
This brings Perth into line with all other cities that have separate stubs. there is also now a separate {{WesternAustralia-geo-stub}} for locations in the state (including places in and around Perth). A couple of other minor points:
We at WP:WSS hope these changes aren't inconvenient, and will help your project! Grutness...wha? 00:38, 23 October 2005 (UTC) LandmarksJust an idea, that some comment should be made about the landmarks, as otherwise outsiders might not have the faintest the barracks arch or bell tower might really mean? vcxlor 07:32, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
Central City StreetsI created a tiny sub-stub for Murray St a few weeks back, but if anyone wants to get started on some others, here are some pictures which may be useful. Gobeirne 06:09, 25 October 2005 (UTC) CultureI've just added a Culture section to the Perth WikiProject page, following discussions with vcxlor about the need to discuss and document Perth's cultural history, such as the evolution of the Perth music scene, and Perth-related aspects of other cultural phenomena, such as the fact that Bodgies and Widgies used to congregate around the Snake Pit in Scarborough... even Post-office goths and Gogans... that sort of thing.... what do you all think? - Gobeirne 03:43, 27 October 2005 (UTC) Yeah, well, some suggestions folks! (aka Harry Secombe goons voice)
Really tied in with ruling class things like art gallery things
Does anyone think they can expand this one? Is it the way to go? vcxlor 03:54, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
Overall, I would personally just stick to music. All the rest of the ideas listed are either [snip] Boochan 13:14, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
and consider "Not needed on Wikipedia" a gross misunderstanding on what it is.vcxlor 00:31, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
The right foot is to realise, whether it's just one art or otherwise, we need to get on with it folks!vcxlor 11:58, 29 October 2005 (UTC) Agreed - Shame I only know little, little bits about Perth culture to help with any articles... think i'll stick to my area of expertise (roads and such) Boochan 17:47, 29 October 2005 (UTC) Parks & GardensA Good start to this category would be grabbing an up to date street directory. This lists all Parks and Gardens in the Perth Metropolitan Area. I will try and get a list done at some time or another. Boochan 08:24, 30 October 2005 (UTC) Photo sourceThe Fremantle Port Authority website [7] has a great collection of old photos of freo and ships etc. Don't forget to tag any pre 1955 uploads with {{PD-Australia}}. -- Ian ≡ talk 18:08, 28 December 2005 (UTC) Adventure WorldHi! I created the Adventure World article and don't know which category it should go in and even if it should go in a WikiProject category? Any suggestions?
This list has been created by d3j4vu I think the format needs to be adjusted to something simpler and have created a discussion on the articles talk page. Before it grows can we get some feed back as to what would be the appropriate format thanks Gnangarra 14:14, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Disambiguation link repair: PerthI guess here is as good a place as any to bring attention to the page Perth. It's a disambigaution page (which is fine), but that means that if someone accidentally uses "[[Perth]]" when they want to link to Perth, Western Australia then the reader has to make an unnessessary vist to the dab page. This can be fixed by performing disambiguation link reapir on Perth, using its What links here. I thought it might be a simple job for someone who's interested, a minor way to help this WikiProject.--Commander Keane 19:49, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Photo request for South PerthHi - I wonder if anyone could help with a photo of St Mary the Virgin Anglican Church, apparently in Ridge Street, South Perth? It is regarded as a good example of Australian architectural styles#Post-War Period c. 1940 - 1960. The church was designed by G H Parry. Thanks--A Y Arktos 00:12, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
I live near South Perth, I'll try and get a few shots of St Mary's. Can't help on the Dalkeith one, though, I'll let you know if I get a decent one. Anyone else is welcome to get a photo, more the merrier. Riff 02:45, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Title of the WikiProjectIs that necessary to change from Perth into Perth, Australia? seems Duncharris moved that into Perth, Australia to disambig between Perth, Scotland and other cities. It needs to know others opinion regarding the title of this WikiProject. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 15:10, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations Ian!! - Gobeirne 08:35, 10 February 2006 (UTC) A wikiperth meetThe Sydney wikiproject editors are planning to meet on 5th feb. What I was wondering was there sufficient interest to arrange a similar meet here in Perth. What does everybody think, leave your thoughts here. Gnangarra 05:18, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm, im like only 14 so i dont know... Do we all have msn or something we can use to communicate in easier formats? Nhoj1991
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Congratulations to Snottygobble, Ian, and everyone else involved in getting this piece of Perth's history to the main page - Gobeirne 04:25, 17 February 2006 (UTC) Langley ParkLangley Park, Western Australia has just been created, and I nominated a Did you know for it. It would be great to get a photo. I couldn't find one in the commons.--Commander Keane 21:57, 20 March 2006 (UTC) Congrats!Congrats people! Perth, Western Australia is now a good article! Alvin6226 00:01, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Hillarys Boat HarbourHey, I really think that Hillarys Boat Harbour/ Sorrento Quay should have an article by now, it perths second most popular tourist attraction, second to only kings park, and there are alot of other articles that would/could link to it. Anyone up for it? Nhoj 16:35, 23 April 2006 (UTC) Photo RequestsRecent changes have taken place to the request for photos article, geographical location have been seperated out into categories. For Western Australia-related articles needing a photograph, use The Free Image Search Tool may be able to locate suitable images on other web sites. The Image Existence Checker shows articles in this list that have images.
Use this method where the request is not an immediate necessity, and on the talk if you have a specific requirement for the photograph then leave a message. If your request has more immediate need do above and also add a wiki link to the article on the category page as this will cause the page to appear on watchlists thus alerting everybody. Gnangarra 13:55, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Black Swan Theatre CompanyOn the project page, under 'Tasks' there is a link to Black Swan Theatre. I made a stub at Black Swan Theatre Company because this is the official name. I am not sure how to change this on the project page and i dont want to somebody to create it under Black Swan Theatre when i have already done so at the other name. Cheers, --Ali K 05:16, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
1929, 1979, 2004 Information neededThese three years have celebrations to mark number of years since settlement, 1929 - 100 years, 1979 - 150 years and 2004 - 175 years. Each of these had numerous events including various buildings, plaques etc being dedicated. can everybody please keep an eye for any of these and leave a note here so that articles can be constructed. The WAY 1979 article already has a number of events listed but its not all of them. Gnangarra 11:23, 4 June 2006 (UTC) A good example of 1929 is the Centennial Pavilion at the RAS (which they want to push down), and there are plaques at some sites around Perth with the RWAHS brass plaquea commemorating the people or things considered "historic" by them in 1927/29 - such as the round house, and chippers leap. hows that for a start? SatuSuro 02:32, 5 June 2006 (UTC) DomeDoes anyone want to have a go at fixing my Dome Coffee stub? I created it so I'd have a link for another article I was working on, but if you have more info than I, feel free to add. Orderinchaos78 14:17, 7 June 2006 (UTC) Wildflower picturesHi a new user has created an article on Wild Flower Festival with links to Kings Park, Western Australia. I looked for some wild flower pictures and couldn't find any. This is no doubt in part to incompetent searching but maybe we also need additions in this area.--A Y Arktos\talk 22:38, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Wikimedia Commons has media related to Western Australia. . Gnangarra 01:14, 20 June 2006 (UTC) I have seen several supermarkets have a "Buy WA First" label for some products, and anyone knows how this was introduced? thanks and regards. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 09:37, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Native titleThe Noongar federal court ruling should get a mention somewhere, Perth people are probably in the best position to decide where to put it. Thanks. --Peta 23:34, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Kings Park, Western Australia - help pleaseI've been cleaning this article up, I would appreciate some feed back and suggestion for further developement of the article. Thanks Gnangarra 08:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC) "Western Australia's 100 most influential people"(cross-posted at talk:History of Western Australia) The insert in todays West is good reading if you're interested. Wikipedia is quoted as one the references. — Moondyne 05:03, 9 November 2006 (UTC) Events that should be includedRed Bull Air Race
I struck out Rally Aust as there already an article Gnangarra 10:02, 21 November 2006 (UTC) There is a Perth section at Red Bull Air Race World Series. Nachoman-au 11:21, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
If you are interested in the Red Bull Air Race, please join Wikipedia:WikiProject Red Bull Air Race World Series. Thanks--HamedogTalk|@ 08:20, 1 December 2006 (UTC) Swan Valley and the Caversham wine festivals? Music festivals are no doubt being added to the Perth Music article. Hopman Cup? where do we stop petedavo 11:27, 30 January 2007 (UTC) WikiProject Western AustraliaAm I the first to suggest that this project become for the whole state. Australia project is too focused on Eastern states and this one gets too detailed. It would also help in reaching consensus on a 'national gauge' re. general australian articles with t'othersiders. Fred.e 20:59, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for comments. We can have both projects, silly of me to say change. As well! I'm sure if editors don't have 'right' we can ask an admin. If there is more support I'll lobby the ones I have found so far. There is a lot of WA pages that can be neatly linked together but I don't want to do to much without consensus. Templates coud improve lots areas, for instance, as they have already on this project. Fred.e 17:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
From one who has suggested more projects than he could handle, its all a matter of focus, time, energy and commitment - just look at the australian history guy - clearly one obsessed - one way to go! SatuSuro 23:00, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Shopping CentresI've just this morning located all the articles I could find on shopping centres in Perth and grouped them all into a master category. This has also been added as a sub-section to the main project page under Places. thewinchester 03:19, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
User:Fred.e has just created Wikipedia:WikiProject Western Australia. This will of course be aimed at coordinating and improving articles related to Western Australia, and fostering collaboration between Category:Wikipedians in Western Australia. The project is so brand spanking new that we haven't yet defined our goals or scope, let alone how we're going to achieve them. So this is your chance to be involved right from the start. Hesperian 10:29, 17 December 2006 (UTC) Anyone who wants to make it a better article..I created the well needed article Fremantle Town Hall. If anyone has information they can add, it would be of great use! Thanks, --Ali K 07:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC) FYI: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 January 3#Perth. Hesperian 23:08, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
If the two Perths cannot separate themselves honorably there will be problems - I suggest the Perth in scotland and perth in wa to have qualifiers in the category titles rather than disambigs -sooner than later - notability issues are rubbish - we're on diff sides of this much abused planet... SatuSuro 02:12, 4 January 2007 (UTC) SFD notificationThis message is to notify you that a stub template and category that is associated with this WikiProject ({{Perth-road-stub}} and Category:Perth, Western Australia road stubs) is up for deletion at WP:SFD. Please join the discussion. Thanks. ~ Amalas rawr =^_^= 15:59, 12 January 2007 (UTC) Similar WikiProjectsIf you want to include a list of similar city WikiProjects, you can transclude the following page: Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/List of city WikiProjects. BlankVerse 13:30, 22 January 2007 (UTC) Ratings (Perth-importance=____)I've rated the importance to WikiProject Perth (as opposed to Australia as a whole) of most suburbs, Transperth entities and local councils for the Perth project after this feature became available in March. Some differentiation was necessary - I ended up with the following schema: Suburbs and LGAs
Transperth/PTA
This is quite arbitrary, so I'm happy to hear feedback, and in particular anything that anyone thinks has been incorrectly rated. If you see a Low suburb that definitely should be Mid, just rerate it yourself (note - only change the Perth-importance tag! All suburbs should be low on the "importance" tag except for our two top ones), but anything involving High and especially Top should go here for discussion. Orderinchaos 04:56, 25 April 2007 (UTC) Culture in WAHi all... I've just started editing under a username, I was previously known as all sorts of little number groups making small corrections to articles. I'm just dropping a note here regarding the Culture categories. I have created a new category "Culture in Western Australia" to house the cultural sections of the WA and Perth Wikipedia projects, as they all seemed to be floating around ekeing out their own separate existences and were thoroughly tangled! Also sorted out the 100% redundancy between "Media in Perth, Western Australia" and "Radio stations in Perth" - the latter seems a more logical place, and it is a subset of Media in Western Australia anyway. I also note the relative dearth of arts information, and am hoping to get something up on Artrage and FORM soon. If anyone has any suggestions or requests or ideas I'm all ears ! One final thing - "Perth, Western Australia culture" looks awkward and odd. I realise it started off as "Perth culture" and got renamed, but given we have to disambiguate the name maybe "Culture of Perth, Western Australia" would look better? If others agree maybe we can get it speedy renamed. Zivko85 11:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Wikimania bidThe bids are about to close. Per [8], if anyone is of a different opinion to me that we are not ready to bid and wants to improve the bid to an acceptable standard (I'm inclined to support Melbourne in their bid at this stage), please fix it within 24 hours, or it will not be made official. I would hope that if this occurs, that the bid be of a professional standard that does our city proud. Orderinchaos 03:32, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Perth, W.A. articleTalk:Perth, Western Australia#GA_delisted SatuSuro 01:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC) Parliament HouseParliament House, Perth is at a standard that is not complete enough for a building so prominent and important in our State. I just thought I should let you know! Thanks, Auroranorth 09:02, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Wikimania 2009(moved from WT:WA) Hi there, everybody. Are we going to submit a bid for Wikimania 2009? Our bid is fairly well developed and I would be happy to continue with its progress (I have experiences with conferences about 75% of the size of this one). But the important thing is - do we have consensus that we should go through with it? Thanks, Auroranorth 08:43, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hi folks - I've written an article on the Freo Markets. Feel free to expand it, add photos, and help me come up with a decent hook for WP:DYK! Cheers :) - Gobeirne (talk) 23:55, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
WP:Perth/WP:WA
I am here to propose the deletion of the WP:Perth project. My reasons are as follows;
Any thoughts on this? Thanks. Twenty Years 16:23, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
In March we discussed a proposal to drop the WP Perth Project and the consensus was to make it a taskforce of WP:WA. I'm still a bit unclear what that actually means in a practical sense but see we still have all of the Perth quality and importance categories hanging around. Are they really necessary? And is the WP AUS Perth=yes parm necessary also? There just seems to be so much overlap and demarcation with these admin functions it is always confusing. I have no problems with maintaining a separate taskforce talkpage, if that is still the consensus. Moondyne 03:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
The West Australian - 175 Years of HeadlinesHello all - The West currently has a series of scans accessible for various important events over the last 175 years. This is a great opportunity to add information to many of our articles! For example: Meckering, the Melbourne-Evans collision, and Forrest Place. I'm not sure how long this resource will remain available, so we should make the most of it. Cheers - Gobeirne (talk) 20:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC) Perth Oval/Members Equity Stadium picturesJust wondering if anyone has some good pics of Perth Oval, particularly of the gates on Bulwer St. The Hack 06:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC) Photos required from PerthI am currently working on many various articles for which I require photos from around the world. I am currently requiring photos from Perth for these articles, and I was hoping that this message would reach a photographer who can take the photos for me. The photos I currently require are listed at User:Russavia/Required_photos#Perth.2C_Western_Australia. If any photographers can assist with this, I would be most appreciative. Please leave any comments or questions for me on my talk page at User_talk:Russavia as I am unlikely to read replies. Thanks in advance for any assistance which can be provided. Cheers, --Russavia I'm chanting as we speak 06:21, 19 April 2010 (UTC) The Historical Society of Cockburn?Is anyone here involved with the above society? Just wondering, because I'm planning on going to their next meeting. :-) — Sam Wilson ( Talk • Contribs ) … 10:29, 10 June 2010 (UTC) This talk page - needs archivingIt is a great read as to where we have come from - but we need to have some perspective of what we can do now - rather than what we were talking about 3 and 4 years ago - anyone willing to make the cut off point? SatuSuro 09:47, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
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