Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Utah/Archive 5
Drafts have been created at Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/United States judges and justices#Utah for the following Utah State Supreme Court Justices who are missing from Wikipedia. Please consider adopting a draft and completing the article for the missing person. Cheers! bd2412 T 16:39, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
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I'm wondering if someone from this WikiProject could take a look at this article and assess it. It was created by a student editor as part of Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Brigham Young University/HIST 221 - Gonzales - The United States Since 1877 (Winter 2019), and student moved the article to the mainspace on their own without submitting it for WP:AFC review. There are some WP:MOS and other similar errors which can be cleaned up, but my main concerns are that it's a WP:CONTENTFORK which might not need it's own stand-alone article. I don't believe the university course this student created the article for has ended; so, it's possible that they are still going to get graded on their work; at the same time, it's been added to the mainspace which means that it probably shouldn't be left as is just because it's part of a student editing project. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:46, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
multiple Tintic mills?Tintic Mill currently is a redirect to Tintic Standard Reduction Mill, a mill "also known as the Tintic Mill or Harold Mill—built in 1920, and only operating from 1921 to 1925,... an abandoned refinery or concentrator located on the west slope of Warm Springs Mountain on the southern edge of Genola, Utah. Tintic Smelter Site is also located off Highway 6, but a good distance to the west, at a location southwest of Eureka, Utah. It seems to be named "the Tintic Smelter and Tintic Mill"? It covers the Tintic Smelter, "built in 1908, dismantled in 1915, and replaced that year by the Tintic Mill" seeming to imply that the Tintic Mill is at this location. "Significance: This site aids in the documentation of the history of smelters and mills in Tintic. The Tintic Smelter, built by Jesse Knight, was constructed to combat high smelting rates of the 1908 period; and it resulted in lower rates by Salt Lake Valley smelters. The Knight-Dern Mill (Tintic Mill) was built as a joint venture by Jesse Knight and George Dern (Utah Governor, 1925-1933, and Secretary of War under Franklin D. Roosevelt). The mill utilized the Holt-Dern method of roasting ore in processing and received ores from throughout the western states." So were there two places named "Tintic Mill", and the term "Tintic Mill" is ambiguous? It does seem possible that there were multiple mills in the Tintic Mining District, an area which is not defined in Wikipedia yet, but which no one has asserted is small. Or was the Tintic Smelter replaced by the Tintic Standard Reduction Mill quite a long way afar? (Pinging User:Ntsimp.) Hmm, the Tintic Standard Reduction Mill is described as having been "designed and built by W. C. Madge. It is significant as the only American mill using the Augustin process during the early 1920s." Different process -> different building altogether? --Doncram (talk) 22:39, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
Saturday's WarriorSaturday's Warrior is up for deletion. Is this film notable outside of the latter-day saint community? The article needs more info on critical reception of the films/play. Tea and crumpets (talk) 16:48, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
Utah architectsI've created a good many articles on Utah architects in the past, and recently have been cooperating with User:Zigzig20s, and we both have been creating more. Could we sort of keep track here for a while, and maybe discuss standards if that might be helpful? Or maybe just share about all that is going on, and hope some others might be able to help with some questions? I copy in a question or two raised by Zigzig20s elsewhere, and ask some more. --Doncram (talk) 20:08, 21 October 2019 (UTC) There is Category:Architects from Utah, now with 31 members, probably already covering the more major historic architects in the state. I bet some of them were started by me but left fairly incomplete. It includes:
Recent new articles started by Z or me include:
notability and mergingWhat do we think is enough to make an architect Wikipedia-notable? In the past i created articles for every architect i could find who had designed 5 or more NRHP-listed works, which are pretty major works usually. Now I create articles with fewer works. I almost always would not create an article for someone with just one NRHP listing. What about two, as for Julius A. Smith? Sometimes if an architect only created a few major works, it might be better to cover them in an article about an architectural firm that trained them, maybe. I don't recall myself ever merging already-separated articles back, though. --Doncram (talk) 20:28, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
ScowcroftsSide question: by any chance was Scowcroft Warehouse founded by Brent Scowcroft's ancestors? There is also Heber Scowcroft House, designed by Moroni Charles Woods.
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Formatting Utah State Preservation Office historic site doc referencesHey, @Zigzig20s: and @Ntsimp: and anyone else interested in this exciting topic!?! :) It probably doesn't matter much but there's been some variation in how we format references to Utah State forms, and maybe there is a best way or maybe not. Maybe we could share thoughts? Take for example this form for Cramer House as an example (where i happened to change the formatting by this diff, but i am not sure about it). Three minor questions:
I do think it doesn't really matter which ways are chosen, or even if we are inconsistent, but could anyone else opine about 1, 2, 3? Or, hmm, should this question be taken to some noticeboard, maybe wp:RSN? Or perhaps better, ask in terms of what would be preferred in articles being nominated for "Good" or "Featured" status? Maybe/probably the exact formatting does matter for articles to get promoted, so ask editors/regulars at Wikipedia talk:Good articles and/or Wikipedia talk:Featured articles? --Doncram (talk) 17:54, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Has this been demolished? Feel free to expand the article with good RS. Thanks!Zigzig20s (talk) 00:59, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
Latter-day Saints UniversityJust to be clear, Latter-day Saints University mentioned here is BYU, isn't it? If so, shouldn't we create a redirect? The phrase "Latter-day Saints University" is not mentioned in History of Brigham Young University.Zigzig20s (talk) 05:41, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
It may be interesting to create the Provo City Cemetery, with a section about its history and another section about the notable individuals buried there.Zigzig20s (talk) 07:24, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
A couple new articles and a couple new templatesI've created the following articles and templates:
Just making people aware of them. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:38, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
FAR for Geology of the Bryce Canyon areaI have nominated Geology of the Bryce Canyon area for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. (t · c) buidhe 07:01, 11 September 2021 (UTC) RfC on the "Implications for polygamy legalization" section of the Respect for Marriage Act articleThere is currently an RfC on the "Implications for polygamy legalization" section at Talk:Respect for Marriage Act#RfC concerning polygamy.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 17:15, 25 July 2022 (UTC) Respect for Marriage Act, polygamy, & WP:ANThere is currently a discussion which you might want to participate in at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Epiphyllumlover additions of polygamist information, which especially concerns the Respect for Marriage Act and articles relating to it.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 20:02, 28 July 2022 (UTC) Good Article Reassessment: Sister WivesSister Wives has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) [he/him] 09:03, 5 December 2022 (UTC) Sim Gill Page Being Edited - Most Likely By CampaignJust a heads up that it appears that the Sim Gill page is getting edited by the Sim Gill Campaign. Or at the least by people who want to make him look good, rather than remain neutral. Over the past month, I have restored the article to its original state multiple times. Someone keeps removing controversy section, adding a list of his awards, and spinning all events of his life to sound like a campaign brochure. I think it would be worthwhile to keep an eye on the page, and further discus which sections are appropriate and which are not. Very much reminds me of the Mike Winder edits of the past... Editing to make yourself sound good just prior to an election. Vayapues2 (talk) 14:58, 11 August 2020 (UTC) Can I get a couple more eyes on Talk:Nightingale College? and Nightingale CollegeNightingale College of Salt Lake City appears to have a really shady history. There is a history on the talk page in which Nightingale college has paid Wikipedia editors. There appears to be an ongoing defamation lawsuit in federal court and whole sections are now being deleted. I am at a total loss. Any help would be most appreciated. thanks a billion in advance. ( ^◡^)っ ♡
New public art list for SLCJust sharing a recently created public art list: List of public art in Salt Lake City. Additions and other improvements welcome. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:14, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Liberty Bell replica(s) in SLCHello again! I think there are two Liberty Bell replicas in Salt Lake City, and I'm curious if one or both deserve Wikipedia entries. If I'm understanding correctly, there's one installed in the Utah State Capitol and another at Memory Grove.
Do any project members have access to other helpful sources, or thoughts on entries for either bell? ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:23, 23 May 2021 (UTC) Morgan Commercial and Normal College Marker?Does anyone know more about this memorial?
Should there be a Wikipedia entry? ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:29, 13 June 2021 (UTC) Pony Express markersDo any project members know more about these Pony Express markers? Should there be a Wikipedia article? ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:33, 13 June 2021 (UTC) User script to detect unreliable sourcesI have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like
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