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Deciding which flag to use

There have been discussions in various locations about what to do with Yugoslavia and its SFRY and FRY iterations. Everyone here agrees that in sports the IOC considered them to be YUG/SFRY until the breakup in 2002, but following this discussion I updated the sports module to show the FRY flag at any point after 1992. I then got a very long (and rather convincing) argument that the SFRY flag should be used when "Yugoslavia" is referred to generically. Unsurprisingly, after I made more changes to get the FRY flag at the appropriate Olympics, it was mentioned that there are a lot more exceptions that would need to be added.

So here's the question: should the "newer" FRY flag be used for any use after 1992, including "generic" usage like at  Yugoslavia (which is {{flagIOC|YUG}}), or should we show the "old" flag for such cases and only show the FRY flag at specific events? Primefac (talk) 19:34, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

This is ridiculous. Countries change flags as well and this is well-shown in the infoboxes. Check Austria, Germany, Spain, South Africa, Canada, just to random name some examples. Unles someone clearly demonstrates that the SFRY flag was used at the ceremonies after 1992 (which was not the case), the flag of FRY should be used in after 1992. --Tone 20:02, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

I don't disagree. I'm mostly a neutral party/template gnome in this, but I figured I'd appeal to a "higher authority" (i.e. gain consensus) since I don't feel like getting yelled at from multiple angles every time I make a change. Primefac (talk) 00:08, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi Primefac, thanks for raising this. My view is for nation at year games articles the flag in use at the time needs to be displayed. This why we have all the exceptions listed at Module:Country alias. So the changes you made here were indeed correct and have my full support. As we roll out the {{Infobox country at games}} template to more and more articles, more and more exceptions we will need to be created. Now, to your other query as to which flag to display for the generic use, my vote is favour for the SFRY flag. This is certainly a unique circumstance as if this was a current sovereign state we would use the their current flag but as we are talking about a former sovereign state we should the flag that was in existence for the majority of the country's existence. Cheers – Ianblair23 (talk) 03:27, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

I'm going to agree with Ianblair23 here.Tvx1 14:55, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

An RfC which might concern you

Here! This list article was recently at AfD (and subsequently at Del. Rev.), and one of the main concerns of the delete !voters (including myself) was that it was WP:INDISCRIMINATE. In an effort to cut down on such content, an RfC has been set-up to help determine the scope of the list. Cheers! 198.84.253.202 (talk) 17:58, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

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As per article and source, for 3rd. it says or, not sa[ble]... I also warned the author, one-to-two years inactive※ Sobreira ◣◥ (parlez) 17:42, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

The blazon also says for that quarter in chief a leopard's face but the image has the saltire between two leopard's faces in pale and two crosses flory in fess. —Tamfang (talk) 00:39, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

I think the OP meant to say the field is blazoned or (see Rolls family) but shown as argent. —Tamfang (talk) 08:29, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Wrong number of stars on flag of Utah

A new user has a comment at Talk:Flag of Utah. Thanks to anyone who can reply and welcome this person. Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:09, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Featured quality source review RFC

Editors in this WikiProject may be interested in the featured quality source review RFC that has been ongoing. It would change the featured article candidate process (FAC) so that source reviews would need to occur prior to any other reviews for FAC. Your comments are appreciated. --IznoRepeat (talk) 21:47, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

WikiJournal of Humanities published first article

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T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)^talk 09:31, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Flag of Saudi Arabia

Please can someone knowledgable assist at Talk:Flag of Saudi Arabia#Directionally challenged? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:45, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Empress Elisabeth of Austria — Coat of arms

I've added {{infobox emblem}} to Empress Elisabeth of Austria § Titles, styles, honours and arms with Her coat of arms. Most of the parameters have me perplexed. Anybody willing to tinker with this? —107.15.157.44 (talk) 21:28, 23 December 2018 (UTC)