Wikipedia talk:AutoblockAutoblock detects proxy server IPs rather than actual user public IPsI was effected by collateral damage caused by an autoblock incident today, which led me to make two disturbing discoveries.
These are very serious issues for wikipedia, the incorrect blocking of the proxy servers would likely prevented tens of thousands (or more) of Sydney wikipedians from making any edits. What is the state of the code for the detection of user IP addresses? Aside from incorrectly interpreting proxy IPs as user IPs? I have avoided putting this on the main page for WP:Autoblock as it is kinda embarassing. We need to sort this out ASAP. By comparison the time out of the autoblock seems minor. Please advise me of what may be done. BTW all users of the ISP tgp.com.au have no choice but to deal with the ISP's transparent proxy system, which works fine apart from when websites incorrectly detect the proxy IP as the user's public IP. This is a website's issue. Other websites have it correct http://whatismyipaddress.com/ for instance does a fine job detailing both the public IP and the proxy IP and the reverse DNS-lookup of the proxy server. (I am writting this from a different Internet connection). Dananimal 08:48, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
I tride to edit a talk page it sed useer is blocked wene I was autoblocked. I tride this by creating an ancant with a bad name and wate till I got blocked. The statement saning that autoblocked can edit talk pages is not true?.**My Cat inn @ (talk)** 01:35, 14 January 2006 (UTC) Google Web AcceleratorI was one of the lucky few to be invited to the beta of Google Web Accelerator during its launch. I've had no problems for almost a month... but, today, while trying to edit a page, I got a WikiMedia warning notice that my IP address was blocked from editing! ...except it's not my IP that was shown. The blocked IP was 72.14.194.19 ... I pay my ISP for a high-bandwidth high-availability DSL line with a static IP, and that certainly wasn't it. It, in fact, is one of the many IP addresses for the Google Web Accelerator cache proxies. When you use GWA, the program "cheats" by keeping a web connection open the entire session instead of opening and closing per file like regular web accesses go. Typically, the first time you connect to a remote machine, it registers your ISP-assigned IP address as its incoming connection, but subsequent connections are provided through Google's proxy. Since your internet "pipe" is being used full time instead of constantly making and breaking connections, this speeds up many websites with little problem. Of course, when someone else before you has vandalized a page and you happen to land on the same proxy as they just used for that session, you find yourself blocked as well. There is a solution, however. Simply go to your Google Web Accelerator toolbar, click the "Accelerator" button, which brings up the GWA menu, and select "Don't accelerate this website." The latest versions of the software include this as a dialog box on the preferences page. Add en.wikipedia.org to the box marked for "Sites that you do not want to use Google Web Accelerator". You may want to do this for other sites that let you edit content and administer your account (such as DeviantART and MySpace). See also:
~Kylu (u|t) 03:43, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
What are the numbers for?Why do autoblocks look like this?:
If you are logged in as a CheckUser, would that reveal the IP address? Keyboard mouse (talk) 02:00, 9 May 2010 (UTC) Is there a way to filter Autoblocks by the blocking user?I want to check which autoblocks have been generated on the basis of blocks I have made, but can't find a way to filter the list (search filters on the blocked user not the blocking admin). Can anybody help? Cheers TigerShark 19:57, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
questionWill you get frozen if a vandal with the same IP address gets frozen? ("frozen" means blocked in(de)finitely) Frosty 20:16, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Seriously AnnoyingI have been autoblocked a number of times, and each time it was because the autoblock was intended for someone else. Your program is deeply flawed. I neither live in China nor do I use AOL, so the suggestions on how to deal with this annoyance are not applicable here. Clearly, your program is hindering the ability of editors who are not AOL users or living in China. Since your program affects so many different users in an adverse way, it is not unreasonable to suggest that it be scrapped or re-coded to remove this flaw. I appreciate the intent of the software, but the manner in which it executes it's task is unacceptable. Wandering Star 14:58, 22 July 2006 (UTC) Queston about autoblockWhy when I try to edit different pages do I get different reasons and users who have been blocked, specfic to that page. Also is this new thing? I distinctly remember being assured I wouldn't be constantly blocked for being an AOL user after I created an account. It's a fairly pointless idea as anyone really that determined to vandalise wikipedia would find a way-if they are AOL users, open internet explorer and there ban is lifted for some other poor person to inherit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clomb (talk • contribs)
Is there any point?...in using the unblock-auto template on your user talk page when your IP is dynamic and will probably change again within a minute? --WikiSlasher 08:13, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Autoblock bypass proposalOne way to reduce the collateral damage of autoblocks might be to allow users who have registered an email address to bypass autoblocks, so long as the email address doesn't match the email address of the blocked user (or perhaps, of any blocked user). It would be up to the blocking admin if a hard autoblock is used (the current behaviour), or a soft autoblock (the default, under this proposal), or no autoblock at all, as per the recently implemented option. Regards, Ben Aveling, thinking out loud. 02:15, 9 November 2006 (UTC) Advantages:
Disadvantages:
Autoblock bypass policy proposal #2 (a feature request)I think it would be nice to have a status (that any admin can edit) of not being affected by autoblocks. Let's face it if a user makes 500+ non-vandalism edits it is not likely for them to vandalise. Autoblocks are used to get rid of troublesome vandals and there's no point autoblocking a username that existed a few months before the vandalism ever took place. Sorry if this has been asked before but if it has that just means I have even more support. We could have a page like Wikipedia:Requests for autoblock immunity for editors to be quickly reviewed and then approved for autoblock immunity. --WikiSlasher 06:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I have to point out that the autoblocker stops and deters more than just vandals. As it stands the autoblocker deters established editors from using sockpuppets to make personal attacks against or vandalise the userpages of other editors with whom they disagree with because a blocked sockpuppet will limit their ability to continue editing and repeated unblock-auto requests will raise enough suspicions for a administrators to call in Checkuser. -- Netsnipe ► 11:20, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
ProblemWhy is it that when someone logs in from an autoblocked IP they can't edit or make a new account? I remember autoblocks weren't as restrictive. Wiki is Freaakky. 05:43, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
"...Autoblocked because your IP address was recently used by "XarionC". The reason given for XarionC's block is: "vandalism"..." I have no idea who this XarionC is. Please unblock my IP. No idea how to block peopleThere's someone who's added infinite crap to the articles, like fake pokemon evolutions and general vandalism, and I'd like them blocked. How do I request it? The person's address is 24.36.19.248. Crowstar 16:16, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Autoblock disableWhat does this usually mean? When we don't autoblock IP when a user is block? I thouhgt we usually block IP when a user is block. When we encounter time when we won't block IP? --Freeway19 02:40, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Warring may be okay at first block offense. ONce I just had a conflict with anouther user. However constantly imitating the same mistake may not be acceptable.--Freeway19 01:29, 15 October 2008 (UTC) Very outdated
—AlexSm 18:47, 30 October 2008 (UTC) Duration/number of blocksHow often does an IP address get autoblocked? For example, User:A gets blocked with autoblock enabled, its IP is blocked for 1 day as usual. If that IP tries to edit after that 1 day is over, does it get autoblocked again for another 1 day? --90.196.43.118 (talk) 18:16, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Most mobile internet providers (cellphone operators which provides internet access to phone or to computer by tethering or dedicated modem) (actually every one of them, which i have encountered or heard about) uses CGN, which means, users gets dynamic natted addresses, which maps out to few external addresses. It looks like negative effects of autoblock will be even worse than in case of non-natted dynamic addresses. What to do if user have been autoblocked in this situation? -Yyy (talk) 08:03, 6 November 2010 (UTC) Where user has posted IP addressCame up in a conversation with an autoblocked user today. Its not necessary to post the underlying IP but some users don't realise this, so I've added a note to be aware that it may be appropriate to Rev Del the information for privacy/security.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 19:50, 25 November 2010 (UTC) Unblocked users remaining autoblockedCould somebody tell me why unblocking a user does not (always? ever?) remove the autoblock on that user's IP? HrafnTalkStalk(P) 14:33, 5 December 2010 (UTC) How to get rid of newbiesAutoblock totally sucks. I have just been caught by this monstrosity. If I was a newbie then I would be gone for good. Rethink this. HairyWombat 17:23, 4 November 2011 (UTC) home networksmost computers on a home network share the ip address of the router or modem. so the problem is that if one person in a house is auto-blocked, then all others will be also. this gos for all sites with ip blocking --Jonstoner1993 (talk) 05:14, 6 November 2011 (UTC) Where to request additions to MediaWiki:Autoblock whitelist ?Hi, have been recently IP-autoblocked for the 2nd time (details http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Richiez#unblock.2C_shared_IP_behind_NAT) and could not find a better place to ask. Richiez (talk) 16:48, 8 February 2012 (UTC) Checking for autoblocksBased on the ANI discussion, Favonian autoblocked User:201.43.37.169. However, the entry in the autoblock list says Autoblock #3875649, not the IP's address. That means apparently a non-admin cannot tell that the IP is autoblocked, either by looking at the autoblock list or by looking at the IP's contribution list. Based on what Favonian says, it looks like an admin sees something a little different on the contribution list so they can tell. I'm having trouble understanding (1) in what circumstances an admin would use this "mask" (based on the earlier discussion on this talk page) rather than the IP's address; and (2) why the autoblock status is "hidden" from non-admins. What User:Essjay (now retired) says in the earlier discussion on this Talk page ("It's a matter of privacy for contributors.") doesn't make sense to me. Can someone illuminate any of this? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:02, 6 May 2012 (UTC) Autoblock is now removed when unblockingIn May 2012 the bug 5445 "Remove autoblocks when a user is unblocked" was finally fixed. Looks like this page and MediaWiki:Unblocked need to be updated. — AlexSm 19:56, 24 July 2012 (UTC) Autoblock automatic resetHi. Could somebody please clarify an issue regarding Autoblock expiry after 24 hours, as WP:ABK is not clear on the issue. It states that: "There is an internal autoblock expiry time variable, which is set to 24 hours, meaning that autoblocks only last for 24 hours." Does that mean that the autoblocking function will only be active for the original underlying IP for 24 hours, or does it mean that users who become autoblocked will only be blocked for 24 hours, or both? In the following situation:
Given that there was no activity from the IP address for a week, will User:Jane be autoblocked? Any input would be appreciated. TigerShark (talk) 13:37, 14 September 2015 (UTC) Is there anything that can be done re: IP hopper vandals?I was wondering if there is anything that can be done about IPs who "hop" from address to address, making it appear that they are editing from different parts of the globe. L3X1 My Complaint Desk 21:32, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
AutoblockIf the user gets blocked and autoblocked, they can not edit. I noticed here that I may been doing something that the users can see. Well yes you can. If account creation is disabled, then it is part of the auto block. When they try to edit, then they see a message. I may not check that why there are lot of blocked users. Though it can seem to be a good idea for it and I haven't see admins unblocking users at all. --2601:205:C100:424D:650A:B59C:9FF0:CA5F (talk) 02:02, 23 January 2018 (UTC) The decree about Moscow universityIn 1755, on 25 January, St. Tatiana's Day according to the Russian Orthodox Church calendar, Empress AS Evalar Fortyu LattyEarly history M.V. LomonosovOne of the oldest Russian institutions of higher education, Moscow University was established in 1755. In 1940 it was named after Academician Mikhail Lomonosov (1711 - 1765), an outstanding Russian scientist, who greatly contributed to the establishment of the university in Moscow. Mikhail Lomonosov was one of the intellectual titans of XVIII century. The great Russian poet Alexander Pushkin described him as a person of formidable willpower and keen scientific mind, whose lifelong passion was learning. Lomonosov's interests ranged from history, rhetoric, art and poetry to mechanics, chemistry, mineralogy. His activity is a manifestation of the enormous potential of the Russian scientific community whose representatives occupied the leading positions in the world at the time. Peter I reformed Russia, which allowed the country reach the standards of the contemporary European powers in many spheres. Great importance was placed on education. In 1724 the St. Petersburg Academy of Sciences, founded by Peter I, established a university and a grammar school to educate intellectuals and researchers the country needed; however, these educational establishments did not fulfill the task they took on. It was Michail Lomonosov who suggested, in his letter to Count Shuvalov, the idea of establishing a university in Moscow. An influential courtier and the favorite of Empress Elizaveta Petrovna, Count Shuvalov was a patron of the arts and science; he supported Lomonosov's plans for a new university and presented them to the Empress. Elizaveta Petrovna signed the decree that a university should be founded in Moscow. The opening ceremony took place on 26 April, when Elizaveta Petrovna's coronation day was celebrated. Since 1755 25 January and 26 April are marked by special events and festivities at Moscow University; the annual conference where students present results of their research work is traditionally held in April. According to Lomonosov's plan, there were originally three faculties. First all the students acquired a comprehensive knowledge in the field of science and humanities at the Faculty of Philosophy; then they could specialize and continue at the Faculty of Philosophy or join either the Law Faculty or The Faculty of Medicine. Lectures were delivered either in Latin, the language of educated people at the time, or in Russian. Unlike European Universities, Moscow University did not have the Faculty of Theology, since Russia had special theological education establishments. Moscow university first buildingFrom the very beginning elitism was alien to the very spirit of the University community, which determined Moscow University's long-standing democratic tradition. The Decree Elizaveta Petrovna signed stated in its preamble that the university was to educate commoners; only serfs were not admitted. Lomonosov himself pointed out that in European universities it was the academic achievements of a student that mattered, not his social position or family background. In the late XVIII century there were only three noblemen among the 26 professors of Moscow University, most of the students were commoners too. The best students were sent to continue their education abroad, establishing the contacts with the international scientific community. Originally tuition at Moscow University was free for all, later only poor students were exempt from tuition fees. The state funding did not cover all the University expenses; thus the administration had to find ways to raise additional funds. The University was partly funded by its patrons, such as the rich merchants of the Demidov and Stroganov families and some others, who donated laboratory equipment, books, various collections and established scholarships for University students. Many times University alumni supported their alma mater through hard times raising money by public subscriptions. To the University library professors traditionally bequeathed their private book collections, the largest among them were those collected by I.M.Snegirev, P.Ya.Petrov, T.N.Granovsky, S.M.Soloviev, F.I.Buslaev, N.K.Gudzy, I.G.Petrovsky and some others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.210.206.33 (talk) 00:40, 21 August 2018 (UTC) Page's tone is objectionablePage contains numerous levels of arse-covering tripe. Someone who's the victim of a mistaken autoblock has every reason to be annoyed at both the policymakers/software writers responsible for autoblocking and the admin who left the box ticked. Blaming it on the software is a vile excuse; software is written by people, employed by people and used by people, and this isn't a bug but an intended feature. It'd be more honest to tell people their block is considered acceptable collateral damage (the fundamental rationale the page dances around admitting) than to play this kind of stupid PR game. (In case someone thinks I have a personal stake in this: I've never been autoblocked, or blocked at all, to my knowledge.) Magic9mushroom (talk) 08:16, 24 February 2020 (UTC) Need helpI was just suddenly blocked by Wikipedia for my IP address. My IP address is 59.153.238.59. Thanks. 222.109.223.177 (talk) 12:15, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
Autoblock to IPv6 addressWhy autoblocking IPv6 addresses subverts readily over a few hours? 2405:9800:BA31:F6:811F:BFCD:7B8D:8F4E (talk) 02:05, 17 August 2021 (UTC) In desperate need of someone's helpNot sure if this is appropriate but, hello, I'm desperately trying to get some help with getting back to editing but my account ids blocked I've email millions of people millions of times just to be ignored or dismissed. I've tried the UTRS system thing which seems to make no difference for reasons I don't know. Please bare in mind I'm another human being, all I'm asking for is your/someone's help not anyone's bank details. Please help me =[ 31.125.215.135 (talk) 18:18, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
Documentation needs to be updatedI don't think the instructions for how an admin would remove an autoblock work anymore—as far as I can tell, searching for a username on Special:BlockList does not return the autoblock associated with the account block. The interface has probably changed since that section was added 14 years ago. Based on the screenshot that's used, I suspect the search on the old Special:BlockList/Special:IPBLockList just took you to that place in the list, rather than actually filtering the results the way it does now, so the autoblocks appeared right under the primary block. Anyway, this page should probably say something about using Special:AutoblockList now, since I assume that's what people actually do. :-) —Emufarmers(T/C) 19:44, 19 October 2022 (UTC) Bob and Bort[1] missed two instances while turning "Bort" into "Bob". Please rectify. 86.9.180.72 (talk) 00:26, 24 June 2023 (UTC) Semi-protected edit request on 18 September 2023
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