User talk:Zidanie5

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Francesco Guccini

Sorry to edit your sandbox. I just wanted to be sure you saw the link. Then I saw you already have the link. Just wondering why you're preparing an article that already exists. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:06, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your interest! Well, I am not preparing it from scratch, I just plan to expand it with the help of the much better Italian equivalent (it's an FA article in it.wiki). I'd like to bring it to A class, gonna be tough but I'll try xD. Btw I'm on livehelp irc atm!

Ah. No problem at all. I you need any help at all, just ask. By the way, about the "poisoning" thing. When you add categories, and I think some templates too, they get immediately listed in another part of Wikipedia. (See the bottom of any article. Click one of the categories and see.) By modifying the category by adding some arbitrary word, you disable it, or create a category that doesn't exist. This will then not be listed anywhere. The reason I suggested poisoning it instead of adding a colon, is because you can, in the end, search and replace the keyword with nothing, thus enabling the category or template. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:33, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Pics. Here's the list of the pictures I took so far: Lighter - Chair - Crucifix - Pot - Kitchen Appliances (the big ones to cook) - Fork - Coffee Cup. Drop me a line with ones you'd like me to take!

A kitten for you!

Please come back to IRC. Don't be offended. He didn't mean it. We love you and miss you.

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:43, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

) A kitten is always the best thing to do, in any situation! Copyvio, lack of sources, not notable? Paste a kitten and those thingies will go away ^^

By the way, did you know that the image name is in Italian? Zidanie5 (talk) 18:07, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - Writing a new Wikipedia Article

Hi Zidanie5. Thanks for your interest and sorry I did not want to post there. I'm writing an article about a family member who is an accomplished and known artist with a long career. I'm pretty sure I have the right start as far as learning the process and creating the article in the sandbox, and then seeking help to check it out before publishing. The ariticle is 99% together and sourced, etc... but simply in MS Word. I'll need to redo the whole thing within Wikipedia. I know there are rules about editing your 'own' wikipedia page, but I don't know if there are rules about being related to the subject? So I guess that is my first question; can I write an article about a family member? ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Thegallery/Francis_Kelly_(Artist) Thegallery (talk) 16:45, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and you're welcome.

There are indeed "guidelines" regarding the kind of article you're talking about. I'll sum it up for you: you can make the article, the page, but Wikipedia as a community strongly discourages it, because it is difficult to keep a neutral point of view when writing about someone you're in a close relationship with. This, especially here, is the main policy page you should refer to in this case. The same "rules" you were talking about, here, those for one's own page, can be applied to "family" situations too, so giving it another read can be useful, especially section 4. Another page that can help a lot in these cases is this one. Remember that usually, if a subject is notable enough, there will be someone unrelated that will start the page at some point.

The community is usually kinder with conflict of interest editors if: 1) the article is as neutral as it could be if it was written by an unrelated editor, 2) The conflict of interest is made clear, not hidden, and 3) the editor does not seem to be only interested in that article, and gives a help in other pages too.

For 1) what you need to do is to be very careful, i.e. you need to keep a neutral point of view at all costs. This page will help you with that.

For 2) Until it's in your sandbox there is no need to do that. It will be useful, IF you decide to go on with your article, when it's time to move it to mainspace or submit it for a review, so don't worry about it for now.

For 3) You could be labeled as a Single Purpose Account, so try to make some edits before going all in with your article (and possibly, after doing so ^^). To do that, you can start helping a bit around WP:CLEANUP, or you can find a project that relates to your interests and see what help is needed (e.g. Project:Music). Or you can take some ideas here!

Anyways, the wisest thing is usually NOT to edit in a conflict of interest situation.

If you do those three things, especially the neutral point of view one, your article has much better chances of not being deleted (still possible though...). Naturally, all other policies apply too, especially this one and WP:RS, so I hope you give them a read to check if your article conforms with those policies (especially check your references). For any further explanation, you can find me quite often (not tomorrow until evening, though) on the IRC channel wikipedia-en-help... It can be more comfortable for explaining things like formatting and to go into detail.

So, bottom line, don't do it, if you do it, do it right, read the help pages above (I know they're many but they're useful), and even then it may be deleted.

18:40, 17 October 2011 (UTC)Zidanie5 (talk)

Yes, wow, so much to think about! First of all, thank you so much for the thorough introduction and all the links. They are my reading assignment for today! There are a lot of gray areas. Actually my brother pretty much asssembled the bulk of the document, so I have't contributed much myself. Francis Kelly is my father, and though I've spent a lifetime with him, I don't have much to do with his biography. The document itself is built on from various published biographies over the years, as well as many articles and other publications that we have physical copies of. Unfortunealy many of the sources are no longer published and not available online, but they are legitmate sources that can be looked up by others. The article is objective, as there are no opinions to be shared. It's mainly just his biography. That being said, there is talk of his 'influences' and a couple of things that could be seen as subjective, and that is where we'd need outside help, to make sure we are not drawing conclusions or making assumptions. Of course, one of the sources is in fact my father and my mother, who traveled with him through his formal education and career. That is a definate conflict of interest, but there's also no better source!

He is notable and been well received and 'known'. But he is not famous and frankly I don't see any one else creating much more than a paragraph about him. Because we have his collection and documents including every article and show involving him there's no better source. And even if it is not all included on the published page, much of this info should still be in the disscussion or otherwise included with the article. Unfortunatley no one is knocking on our door to write the article. I assume one will appear eventually, but my guess it that will be built from various sources on the internet, some of which are not very accurate! Anyway, I will start on my 'assignment'. And we'll go from there.

I've actually been a member of Wikipedia for many years, and I've made a couple of edits. But they have been very minor, as frankly I've been too shy to think my knowledge is above others. So I've primarily just made a few suggestions in the discussion pages rather than make the edits myself. Publishing this article would definatley be a break from my usual activity on Wikipedia. Thanks again; sorry to ramble on! Thegallery (talk) 10:14, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

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Simple references These require two parts; a) Chzz is 98 years old.<ref> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref> He likes tea. <ref> [http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com Tea website] </ref> b) A section called "References" with the special code "{{reflist}}"; == References == {{reflist}} (an existing article is likely to already have one of these sections) To see the result of that, please look at user:chzz/demo/simpleref. Edit it, and check the code; perhaps make a test page of your own, such as user:Zidanie5/reftest and try it out. Named references Chzz was born in 1837, <ref name="MyBook"> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref> in Footown.<ref name="MyBook"/> Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result. Citation templates You can put anything you like between <ref> and </ref>, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look; Chzz has 37 Olympic medals. <ref> {{Citation | last = Smith | first = John | title = Olympic medal winners of the 20th century | publication-date = 2001 | publisher = [[Cambridge University Press]] | page = 125 | isbn = 0-521-37169-4 }} </ref> Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result. For more help and tips on that subject, see user:chzz/help/refs.

 Chzz  ►  20:15, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A Barnstar For You

		The Rosetta Barnstar
		For your expansion of Francesco Guccini, I hereby present to you this Barnstar. Zid! You are wonderful! We luv ya! Great work! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:39, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Great to see that you've been recognised for your work on this article. I've updated WP:FAOL/IT, adding a "progress" column as you suggested. Feel free to make any other changes to that page that you want. violet/riga _^[talk] 19:38, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot, I appreciate it! Zidanie5 (talk) 21:38, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sergio Franchi discography

Hi! and thanks for your help. I have made some improvements and I am awaiting a response to my message about removing the tags. Thanks, CatherineCathlec (talk) 22:15, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New message for you on Sergio Franchi disco talk page. CatherineCathlec (talk) 01:21, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To Zidanie5: You left me a message asking why I said "welcome." Well as of Oct 15th you state that after helping Wikipedia many times you have decided to make an account. And your talk page says welcome as of October 7, 2011. Please excuse me if I have upset you by adding my welcome. Thanks again for your help. CatherineCathlec (talk) 16:37, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I see... Well, the first date on my user page is October 2009, when I made this account, then I put another signature this October after changing some text... And you're right, nobody welcomed me for two years! Don't worry, you didn't upset me, I was only curious :-) Zidanie5 (talk) 16:44, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for answering, Zidanie5. As I said before, I have found your reviews and suggestions most helpful! As the discograpy was my first full article, I am still learning ettiquette and terms on Wikipedia. Have left you a new message on the discography talk page. CatherineCathlec (talk) 17:16, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reminder

I just wanted to remind you when responding to edit semi protected requests to change the template from {{Edit semi-protected|answered=yes}} to {{Edit semi-protected|answered=no}} as you did atTalk:WWE#Edit request from , 4 November 2011. Thank you, Baseball Watcher 23:47, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'm sorry, I usually do [1] [2] [3], I forgot to in that case. Thanks for the reminder! Zidanie5 (talk) 23:54, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback Dashboard task force

Hi Zidanie5,

I noticed you replied to some feedback from the new Feedback Dashboard feature – you might be interested in the task force Steven Walling and I just created for this purpose: Wikipedia:Feedback Dashboard. Thanks for diving in on your own and helping the newbies, and I hope you'll sign up! Maryana (WMF) (talk) 23:36, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and thank you for the tip, I wasn't aware of the existence of the task force. I like helping new editors find their way, so I will surely sign up! Zidanie5 (talk) 00:12, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Grazie :)

Hello, and thank you for the welcome :) We'll keep in touch :) --Pikks (talk) 10:38, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cudighi

Hi Zid! Long time. Do you know this sandwich? We could use a photo, if it's convenient, and if you're hungry. Best, :) :) :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:04, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Anna! Long time indeed, we never seem to cross each other on IRC, stupid timezones... Anyways, I never heard of that, it probably is a Northern dish (I could tell from the name even before the article itself confirmed me). My father works in Northern Italy, I'll have to ask him if he ever came across such a sandwich, if so I'll have him take a pic! Zidanie5 (talk) 18:03, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I haven't been on IRC much lately. Not time zones. Just me. Tell your Dad I say hi, and no worries if he can't find it. :) :) Best wishes, and see you on IRC soon, my friend. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:40, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I understand! Well hope to see you soon on IRC, in the meantime have fun! :-) Zidanie5 (talk) 20:54, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anna, after asking around a bit, I found out Cudighi is actually a pronunciation variant of Cotechino, and that it basically constitutes a variant of cotechino, but it's a mainly American variant, brought to the States by Italian immigrants... In Italy it would simply be cotechino, while cudeghi is a particular recipe from Michigan... Probably asking someone from there is your best shot at getting a picture... Zidanie5 (talk) 23:27, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, okay. I'm kind of stupid, because I just saw Italy in the list and thought of you. Of course, the article says Michigan. Sorry to put you through the trouble. Maybe there's a project Michigan where I can ask. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:34, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Spam, input requested

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Grazie

Thanks for letting me know the new article was up, my first attempt, much appreciated, regards Jbro68 (talk) 10:37, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A misplaced post

Hi Zid!!! I think this was meant for you: User_talk:Anna_Frodesiak#Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation.2FCognitive_Computation. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:23, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Anna, yep it's meant for me, thanks for pointing it out :-) Zidanie5 (talk) 06:15, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No prob. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:44, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback Dashboard upgrade

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Thanks for signing up for the Feedback Dashboard response team! I wanted to let you know that the tool just got an important update (see here for details). I also wanted to invite you to the IRC office hours session that Steven and I are going to hold this Sunday, December 4. Hope you can make it and share your experience/questions with us! Thanks again, Maryana (WMF) (talk) 23:44, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Francesco Guccini

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Sorry, but the prose is really a big issue. Take this to GOCE, PR and then renominate it.♫GoP♫_T^C_N 14:27, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Language page

I added a few Serbo-Croatian translations for you. I'll come back to pretty them up; I'm editing from a U.S.-standard keyboard, so I'll have to hunt down all the unique letters I need to insert them. Also, there's the issue of Serbo-Croatian being a distinct dialect from Serbian or Croatian, and not being spoken by one country alone - I put it under the flag of Yugoslavia (a dead country) for now for lack of a better option. m.o.p 05:40, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

:-) This could snowball.  Chzz  ►  06:20, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for contributing to the page, Master, and I guess the choice of Yugoslavia may be the most "neutral" of all. I tried searching for some page with language icon flags listing Serbo-Croatian too, but found nothing! Zidanie5 (talk) 02:58, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Help for Arzoo Inc

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Auguri

Buon Natale / Merry Christmas :) --★ Pikks ★ ^MsG 23:25, 25 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tanti auguri anche a te! Merry Christmas, I hope you spent it wonderfully :-) Zidanie5 (talk) 01:22, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!

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Just to say that, unless I'm much mistaken, we saw each other on the FIE Fencing Channel today. This summer I'll flesh up Arianna Errigo's and Elisa Di Francisca's articles. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 19:46, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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