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Transfers Winter 2007-08

Yeah, sorry about that. I must've accidentally deleted some stuff from the article. I was only trying to revert Egghead06's edit. – PeeJay 14:29, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

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Notability of footballers

Hi, you contributed to the discussion about football notability criteria in November, so you will be delighted/appalled that I have restarted the discussion here. Please give your opinion so that we can move towards formalising the criteria. Regards, King of the NorthEast 15:06, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you spam

		My RfA
		Thank you very much, Woody, for your nomination and support in my RfA which I really appreciate. It closed at 83/0/0. I was surprised by the unanimity and will do my best to live up to the new role. All the best, --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 16:49, 5 February 2008 (UTC) The patio at the Partal Palace in the Alhambra, Andalucia.

Lead coordinator

Hey Woody, I have asked you a question at the nominations page. The peer review dept. in wiki as a whole is in poor shape I feel (at least I myself have never had a good experience with it) whereas the WPMILHIST specific peer review system has always impressed, I've just asked you on your thoughts about improving WPMILHIST's PR dept. further.

Good luck! SGGH ^speak! 17:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou, your answers were very helpful and you clearly know your stuff and you are curteous to questions. I will take a look at new and improved WP:PR and particularly Wikipedia:Peer review/volunteers which I had not seen before. SGGH ^speak! 20:43, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

James Milner

Do you have anything more to add to the PR? Buc (talk) 19:43, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I pretty sure I've addressed every issue raised either in the article or with a reply in the PR. Buc (talk) 22:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Can't really do much until RM replies. Dweller just gave some advice, he didn't give any feedback about the article. Buc (talk) 22:10, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Unblock? Update?

Please see: Diffs.: a act of vandalism at Heath Ledger apparently committed by a user that you have recently unblocked. See Talk:Heath Ledger for context. Thanks. --NYScholar (talk) 21:07, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you again; was just about to add the template, but I see that you have done so. --NYScholar (talk) 21:14, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Unblock

No idea where that came from, they were doing alright AFAIK. Major mistake on my part, unblocked, etc. Thanks for telling me.Keilana|^Parlez ici 23:11, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem, thanks again for letting me know. Keilana|^Parlez ici 23:15, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Recent Villa history

Hi Woody, just saw you added a {{fac}} to the Villa recent history article. I'll get round to reviewing it tomorrow with luck. You may have noticed ITFC stats article at FLC right now, and I'm working hard on ITFC history to complete the topic... All comments welcome as ever! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:15, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Villa FAC

No worries about the decades - as long as it's consistent that's fine, though I'm not a big fan or going against the MOS. As for other points, I've got a couple - one on the specifics of the references and secondly about images. Though I realise it's damned annoying not being able to use the images we want. I'm sure you have a list of images you'd like to use but can't. Anyway, I'll get back to you (on the FAC page) as soon as I get chance, perhaps later today. Peanut4 (talk) 22:12, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Villa 1961-

Just a quickie. In the lead, your note #1 doesn't reference the sentence it's attached to. Would have changed it myself, but can't make head nor tail of the "new-look" history section on avfc so can't find anything to change it to, cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:28, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

sorry to be picky, but it still doesn't explicitly mention them being in Europe by 1977, which is what the sentence says. Presumably this is via winning the League Cup? you could always add a bit to the note to say so. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:59, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Vandal

Woody, can you have a look at Oddball600 (talk · contribs)? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:47, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks; when do I get to practice rollback? Seems all of his/her edits have been attended to. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:52, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Ronald Reagan protection

Perhaps you could revisit the idea of semi-protection. The edits by established editors is usually sound, and not a drive-by vandalism by anonymous contributors. Full protection is too much, but I think that semi-prot might allow for a better use of editors' time. When you factor out the anon vandalism, the remaining edits are far more manageable (and a lot more sane). Thoughts? - Arcayne (^cast a spell) 18:52, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Footy!

Hey, Woody! I've tentatively returned to editing articles within the scope of WP:FOOTY.....OK, related to Liverpool F.C. One question: does the project maintain a formal system for the promotion of articles to A-class, á la MILHIST? I've identified an array of neglected articles that I'm resolved to ...."improve" ;-). If you're ever inclined to assist such efforts, I'd happily welcome that support!*hint hint* I really shouldn't allow myself to be so distracted from Charles Harington Harington. Regards, SoLando (Talk) 14:57, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah, that's unfortunate. I've become so accustomed (in the project space) to the extensive, meticulous structure of MILHIST. Perhaps Footy should employ the service of yourself and/or Kirill to effect project transformation? ;-) I can't fathom why/how I neglected to tag Harington. Thank you! I urge you, nay insist, that you select the Irish VC list for your next project - I'm of Green heritage! Admittedly, I'm a veritable mongrel but I qualify for Guinness ;-). Regards, SoLando (Talk) 15:26, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Over the weekend? That's impressive. Alas, my approach would have been to sporadically edit the article/list, perhaps encompassing many months, until I either relented and completed the article or relegated it to very low priority! ;-) FOOTY appears to be exceptionally active so presumably MILHIST's system of internal content review could be successfully adopted...? Were a policy-compliant image was available, I'd expand the lamentably maligned Stig Inge Bjørnebye‎ beyond the current projected length/standard and nominate it as an FAC. GA will probably be a practical compromise. My next victim is Patrick Berger's article - it's concise and has excellent potential! Regards, SoLando (Talk) 15:51, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps a movement within FOOTY will gain momemtum? I suppose MILHIST's structure is essentially representative of its scope ;-). There was a failed FAC for a VC recipient whose name I cannot recall. It was insufficiently referenced and impeded by an unencylopedic tone, but it wouldn't be that time-consuming to improve it to FA standard. And yes, Berger - the Czech maestro! SoLando (Talk) 16:18, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Optimus91

I see you tripped over it too. What do you think? I don't see what Ryulong was thinking on that one, but he may have some reasons we don't know about. If we don't here from him shortly, I am inclined to seek community input on an unblock at WP:AN... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 16:33, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

No

I am NOT the only person and seems that just two of you thought this thru and maid the compromise yourselves. PPNjegos (talk) 12:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Cyclin-dependent kinase 5

When you moved over redirect Cyclin-dependent kinase 5, Anthony.bradbury (talk · contribs) accidentally deleted it, I think by following the {{db-move}} in the original page. I have reported the problem to Anthony, but he seem busy at the moment. Can you undelete this article? —Banus (talk) 09:12, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! It's ok now —Banus (talk) 11:52, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Villa history

I will get around to reviewing it properly soon (poke me with a stick if I don't), but one quick point I noticed. Mercer is described as resigning, but I have three different sources which say he was sacked. Oldelpaso (talk) 16:37, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Right, I've sobered up after yesterday's celebrations. In a narrative club history in Manchester City: The Complete Record Gary James wrote "Unfortunately Mercer became ill, suffering a stroke while still at Villa, and appallingly he was dismissed while still trying to recover." A profile of Mercer later in the book says "Mercer's career changed direction in 1963 when pressure increased at Villa. The Villa fans were desperate for [their first league title since] 1910. His relatively young side were still not ready for that, and, as a result of the pressure, Mercer became ill. Eventually he suffered a stroke. (Two sentences about the scope of Mercer's role at Villa)...while he he lay at home ill the Villa board decided to terminate his contract."

Ian Penney's Maine Road Encyclopedia uses the phrase Villa relieved him of his post after mentioning the stroke. David Clayton's take is "He recovered [from the stroke] but when the doctors gave him a clean bill of health, the Villa board sacked him. He decided to retire and many thought they had seen the last of "Genial Joe". But Mercer's love of the game pulled him back and in 1965..."(rest of career)

So we have Villa-centred sources which tend to portray Villa in a favourable light, and City-centred sources which tend to be sympathetic towards Mercer. It seems to me that he did retire, but only once he was no longer Villa manager. James has also written a biography of Mercer - Football with a Smile - but it is long since out of print. I'd class him as the most reliable of my three sources, I've always found his books to be very well researched. Oldelpaso (talk) 19:39, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Just this remaining really before I support, I may do some further copyediting at some point. I've just noticed that the manager history on the Villa site says Mercer today lives in retirement on Merseyside, when he died 18 years ago, so I'd take that one with a pinch of salt. Oldelpaso (talk) 21:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Villa stats

Hey Woody, I saw you're pushing to FLC now, but you didn't transclude the nomination so I've taken the liberty of doing so. Hope you don't mind! The Rambling Man (talk) 08:59, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Silly billy. No harm done! The Rambling Man (talk) 09:21, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Wow, I just noticed that it was me that welcomed you to this place back in Nov 2006. Has it really been that long?! The Rambling Man (talk) 09:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

You're quick!

Thanks for adding the block template. I edit conflicted with you to add it msyelf. Cheers, Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Orphaned non-free image (Image:Target alternatecover.jpg)

I'm aware of that. That's why I requested speedy deletion, because it wasn't used in any pages and there was no use for it anymore as the cover turned out to be fake - but you declined it. Save-Me-Oprah^(talk) 16:30, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Category:All lonely articles

You might want to take another look at this. It appears to me that this category is likely to stay empty. The preferred term now seems to be "orphaned" rather than "lonely" articles; {{lonely}} redirects to {{orphan}}, and there is a separate Category:All orphaned articles. Category:Lonely articles and all of its subcategories, including this one, now appear to be empty. --Russ (talk) 16:55, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

new user name

When and why did you change usernames. You almost got spammed with my monthly WP:LOTD notice.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:33, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Notability of non-playing footballers (AfD:Paul Rodgers (footballer))

Hello! You contributed to AfD:Paul Rodgers by voting to keep him. As you may know, WP:FOOTY is currently working to finalize a Notability criteria. One of the points of the current suggestion that are still being debated is more or less a translation of AfD:Paul Rodgers. I'm now trying to come up with a suggestion that summarizes this AfD, and would like you to comment on my interpretation of your arguments, and perhaps even discuss a suggestion. Thank you! Sebisthlm (talk) 20:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Villa

You've addressed all my issues. I'll wait for Oldelpaso to go through the text until I update my own comments. No rush yet I hope. If I forget just get back to me. Peanut4 (talk) 01:02, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Milhist

Oops, brain fart, thought it was the 15th >.< You'd think I'd notice this stuff when everything is time stamped. Narson (talk) 15:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Inter-Cities Fairs Cup

Hi, it probably escaped your notice that Blues represented the city of Birmingham in the first Inter-Cities Fairs Cup (or even that such a thing existed). I've always believed that we were entered because Brum wanted to put in a combined team, as London did with the London XI, but your lot weren't interested, whether in the competition at all, or whether in mixing with the small-timers, I don't know. If you have a minute, I'd be grateful if you could have a look see if any of your books shed light on the matter. Absolutely non-urgent, just if you have the time. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 18:00, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for participating in my RfA! It was closed as successful with 58 supporting, 0 opposing, and 2 neutral. I hope to demonstrate that your trust in me is rightly placed and am always open to critiques and suggestions. Cheers. MBisanz ^talk 04:19, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Best pic I've seen

Doczilla's RfA

.: Oh, no! There goes To-ky-o! Admin Doczilla! :. File:Godzilla(01)reverse.jpg Thanks for !voting! Thank you for !voting in my RfA which resulted in the collapse of civilization with 92 (94?) support, 1 oppose, and 1 neutral. Blame jc37 and Hiding for nominating me, everyone who had questions or comments, everyone who !voted, everyone who tallied the numbers correctly, and WJBScribe who closed without shouting, "No mop for you!" Seriously, your response has overwhelmed me. I am deeply grateful. Messier 82 Woody Thank you for casting the 82nd vote in support.      "The bad news is time flies. The good news is you're the pilot." - Michael Althsuler

Advice

After your block, may you insert in correct manner with English language grammar this source and other source from this edit in introduction of association football? In first linked site you read section Australian Rugby Union and you read sentence the 2003 Rugby World Cup was the fourth largest sporting event in the world behind the Olympics, Soccer World Cup and the World Athletics Championships: Olympics is most followed sporting event in this source. In other source volleyball is most participated sport and Formula One Racing has the largest television viewing audience in the world. I would like insert other sources which consider various sports are most popular in the world but not soccer: sure several sources consider soccer most popular in the world but other sources no!!!! Regards,--PIO (talk) 16:54, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Villa stats & records

Hi, I've just stuck a load of comments at your FLC. Noticed you've been busy recently, so if it'd help if I sorted out some of this myself while you get on with more important things, just copy the comments over to my talk with ticks against what you'd like me to do, and I'll do my best. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:46, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Running Man Barnstar
		Awarded jointly to ChrisTheDude, Mattythewhite, The Rambling Man and Woody for producing quality articles at such a prolific rate that I can no longer keep up with reviewing them all. Oldelpaso (talk) 12:04, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

PROLIX

See here; I never saw whatever you deleted, but this may be more of a spam issue than a copyvio concern. Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:37, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Your edit at List of Victoria Cross recipients by nationality

Hello! i just want to say that i added that link as a Heading in that list because those recipients aren't English, they are from British India. So can i know what was your concern about that edit? Thanks! --SMS ^Talk 12:01, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry! i did it all wrong! Well i just wanted to mention that these are the British Indian recipients and the link to British Indian VC recipients redirects to the same VC list. I think you got my point and if you can do that it will be a great help!--SMS ^Talk 12:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

You're back !

Darn, I had to fail your FAC when it hit three opposes while you were "at sea". I also subsequently learned (from a different FAC) that there is an issue with plural/singular on clubs, so it seems that one is resolved. Bring it back as soon as you feel it's ready. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

My oppose is pretty much neutral on this now as well. Sorry, I probably ought to have updated my position. Everything I opposed it for has been addressed. I'm just waiting to see the outcome of OldElPaso's queeries then i will play my hand again. Peanut4 (talk) 17:00, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

See this MOS discussion; do we need a guideline? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:27, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! And thanks for understanding :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:31, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

The best place for the discussion is the one already started here, so please add that to it. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:42, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Pretty much all sorted from my point of view. If I find anything else using an extra-fine toothed comb I'll let you know or try to resolve it myself. Oldelpaso (talk) 20:00, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Woody, by the way, since I'm trying to discourage re-noms coming back before they're ready, when you re-nom, please indicate you have my permission. Hopefully, that will help forestall others (that aren't ready) from coming back too soon. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Archiving

Hello Woody! I'm the one who removed some AfD's on WP:WPF. I thought I'd just be helpful. Since it was the first time I didn't archive them. How do you do that, so I can get it right next time? Cheers, Sebisthlm (talk) 20:20, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the tutorial! I've added the articles I removed to the archive per your instructions. Sebisthlm (talk) 21:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

What about the PRODs? I removed Gary Charman and I don't see any in the archives, so I take it they're not added there. Sebisthlm (talk) 10:40, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Thought so. Thanks! Sebisthlm (talk) 10:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

History of Aston Villa

Hi, Woody, I have made a few edits to the article. If they are more-or-less OK, I can carry on with the rest of the article later. Please feel free to revert all or any of them if you want to. I feel guilty about the weight that my opposition seemed to have carried at the FAC - on relfection I was too quick to oppose on what now seems to be shakey grounds. Having spent two hours reading through the article, I can see that it is essentially very good. Should you re-nominate, (and I hope you do), I will support you. Best wishes, Graham. --GrahamColm^Talk 21:29, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

And I feel double guilty that I'm so self-obsessed that I didn't contribute either. Re-nom asap. Let me know asap. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:34, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Woody, Hi, I've completed the CE for you to keep or revert as you wish. Please let me know when you re-nominate. Best wishes, Graham.--GrahamColm^Talk 19:01, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Good day! I re-read the article and I think it looks fantastic. With the recent changes, I believe it is more accessible to the "layperson" if you will. I will fully support. --Laser brain (talk) 19:50, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for saving In Vento

I am documenting New York City Ballet season by season; this is their last week for this winter and there is much to enter. I will expand upon the entries after they go on tour next week. Thank you again for saving In Vento! Robert Greer (talk) 00:53, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Villa articles

Take your point entirely on FLCs becoming peer reviews; I now won't touch football FLCs that didn't have a PR first. Though there is a problem that some PRs attract significantly better participation than others. As to your history article, it now appears to have such a surfeit of goodwill I fully expect it to breeze through FAC in record time! cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:01, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

See my remarks on record time at Roger's talk page; I don't want anyone to be disapointed or to put any money on record time :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Not Villa, mate, but have you seen this? --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 21:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm not really into soccer but having seen that clip, I share your pain :) --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 19:45, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Paul the Apostle banner

I have reverted temporarily your very sound edit, as I had linked to this page at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Mass-spamming_by_User:John_Carter_and_User:Betacommandbot, protesting about just this, & I can't face trying to find another article where GA tags have been upstaged. I will re-revert in due course, promise! Hope this is ok! Johnbod (talk) 19:54, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

huh?

What is wrong with the link? What do you mean? --YeltsAkciR-pUuoYeviGannoGreveN (talk) 21:43, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

But it is a good song, and enjoyable to listen too. I am doing you a favour. You are the one that should be blocked for being ungrateful of Rick Astleys musical talent. --YeltsAkciR-pUuoYeviGannoGreveN (talk) 21:50, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Civility question

What do you think? [1] [2] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:13, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Just generally makes Wiki a miserable place to be. <sigh> SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:30, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I forgot to get back to you, started doing the sockpuppet thing instead. A fun Wiki day :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:24, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Berger

Patrik Berger is still undergoing expansion; as noted in one of the edit summaries it requires more meatier paragraphs ;-). Ahem. Would you consider contributing to the development of the Aston Villa section? I'm convinced it would be....disengaging were I to write it, but I have no aversion should you decide against editing the article :-). Regards, SoLando (Talk) 13:19, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, that would be very much appreciated :-). If only February was quieter in every respect, foremost on Wikipedia. Disruptive conspiracy theorists are intolerable! The project has an almost magnetic appeal to that element - it's absurd. If only Elvis Presley was to reveal himself from an anonymous ip to sooth them with the sound of Suspicious Minds ;-). The History of Aston Villa (1961-present) is an excellent article and deserved to be promoted. Congratulations! If Roger is monitoring this, may I say that I hope the transition to admin' has been smooth! Regards, SoLando (Talk) 19:27, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

ip campaign

Evening! Thanks for checking on my user page and for dealing with the IPs. More to come I'm sure! What fun to be an admin, eh? The Rambling Man (talk) 17:17, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Request

Dear Woody, I've just asked for peer review on the article cannon, and seeing that you've volunteered to review military articles, I thought you may be interested in providing suggestions. I would really appreciate your help (as would the others working on the article), but please feel free to ignore this spam message if it's not feasible or if you don't want to. Best, Keilana|^Parlez ici 22:36, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Currency formatting on main page

Thank you very much for clearing that up. --Anthony5429 (talk) 17:54, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks for the prompt reverting of vandalism on my page. Much appreciated. Gillyweed (talk) 21:45, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Villa player list

Hi, think you've probably got Mr Barry wrong, both soccerbase and avfc say 382 appearances. While you're there perhaps you should update the 'correct as of' date as well ;-) (it's really starting to bother me that I notice this sort of thing) cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:47, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

What in the world!

I'm not considering legal action against Roger. What's that going to do? I was meaning the website who violated the copyright of Wikipedia. I request you withdraw your most recent edit on my talk page. Of course, I can clarify this on his talk page if others get the impression, but such a strong warning, I think, is not appropriate given the circumstances. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:18, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I re-read it, and agree that it is open to the possibility (although again, I don't know what it would achieve) so have reworded it. As for the article, the edit history should show the article's progression. Some other editor even had to include the information about this artist's other daughter Tanujashree, which wasn't in my original text to begin with. To merely assume the article is a copy from the website and not vice-versa was a failure to assume good faith, particularly by the editor who advanced the speedy-deletion template on the article. This, I suppose, I should also include as yet another incident in the ANI filed against him. Still, thank you for alerting me to this and for the information on what I can do about the website. I'm extremely grateful that you are looking into the matter now. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:26, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

That's great news - glad that it is back. Thank you again. Now I'm going to have to slowly go through all the other speedy-deletion candidates that have been stuck on my page by the editor who I filed an ANI against. If there is any way of undo-ing the articles that have been deleted, and replacing it with a tag of proposed deletion or something to that effect, that would be great. This way, I can make any necessary edits prior to articles being deleted so quickly. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:40, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I would have put a hang on tag if I had a chance, but wasn't able to as it was 'speedily deleted' before I could. :S Strangely, I don't remember creating this article. But still, she is considered extremely prominent, and I would add a hang on tag in any case, if I could. I can make it into a non-copy vio stub for now if you can undo the delete. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:51, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

(outdent) Thanks for sorting that out, Woody. Much appreciated :) --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 16:16, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

MILHIST coordinator election

It's my pleasure to inform you that you have been elected to serve as an Assistant Coordinator of the Military history WikiProject for the next six months. Congratulations!

If you have not already done so, please visit the coordinators' talk page, where you'll be able to find some open tasks as well as reference material and discussions relevant to you. You might also be interested in a bit of advice that I have to offer.

Again, congratulations, and good luck! Kirill 00:01, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Congrats!

Assistant Coordinator of the Military history Wikiproject,
February 2008 — August 2008

Congrats on your election as an Assistant Coordinator of the Military history Wikiproject. In honor of your achievement, I present you with these stars. I wish you luck in the coming term. TomStar81 (Talk) 00:47, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words, and congrats on your election. My reply to Tom may also be of interest to you. -MBK₀₀₄ 02:36, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Limited edition election gift. Blnguyen (vote in the photo straw poll) 04:39, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Well done Woody. I wish you another six months of happy military mopping, more good times reading articles at WP:MHR and success with your own article writing. And hopefully another big period of growth for WP:MILHIST. Blnguyen (vote in the photo straw poll) 04:39, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Congrats and good luck, Woody. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:00, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Congrats Woody and good luck. Kyriakos (talk) 12:46, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations! and Good Luck! --SMS ^Talk 16:20, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you

		Milhist Coordinator elections
		Thank you very much for your support in the recent Military history Wikiproject elections. I went into it expecting to just keep my seat and was astonished to end up with the lead role. I anticipate a rather busy six months :) --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 13:24, 29 February 2008 (UTC) Haut-Koeningsbourg castle, Alsace.

Thanks for your support

Woody/Archive 3: I wish to thank you for your support in my unsuccessful bid at becoming an Assistant Coordinator for the Military history WikiProject. Rest assured that I will still be around, probably even more than before, and I have the utmost confidence in the abilities of the current and new coordinators. I might also mention that I am already planning on running again in August. As always, if you need anything, just get in touch. -MBK₀₀₄ 21:28, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

It seems everyone is leaving you thanks. I think you deserve a barnstar, so I'll be back. But I also re-read your message, and realized you were wondering if the Miller name was publicly available. In order to gain Wikinews accreditation, a person has to register his or her real name. So it's not a secret and it doesn't bother me. But I do keep Shankbone as a pen name. --David Shankbone 02:59, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Red Barnstar
		Thank you for keeping your eyes peeled for others. David Shankbone 03:07, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Muhammad

Vandalism ????!!!! tell me abt it ... then what do u consider promoting religious hatred, i always thought of wikipedia as a source for information not as a place where you can promote hatred against others, the least you can do is to remove the faces from offensive pictures, thats if you don't want to remove them ... unless thats what you really want, to insult other's religions —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajai (talk • contribs) 13:15, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Image:Fembots 2 APIMOM.jpg

I noticed you removed[3] the speedy delete I7 tag I placed[4] on this image. I have since replaced the tag [5] as I believe the image still meets the criteria which states "Non-free images or media that fail any part of the non-free content criteria and were uploaded after 13 July 2006", I do not think that the image meets with WP:NFCC criteria 10c which requires "a separate fair-use rationale for each use of the item". Currently the images uses the same rationale for two instances of its use - in the article Gynoid and the article Fembots (Austin Powers). Regards, Guest9999 (talk) 16:15, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I would like to point out that I notified the uploader[6] of the images Image:Fembots 2 APIMOM.jpg and Image:Fembot 3 APTSWSM.jpg almost immediately after I tagged them for speedy deletion[7][8]. Regards, Guest9999 (talk) 16:23, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Ah, yes you are right. I completely misinterpretted the way WP:CSD#I7 was written. Thanks for fixing my mistake, I won't make it again. Keep up the good work. Regards, Guest9999 (talk) 16:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Woody

Ah sorry, i forgot about the order. Rebel Redcoat (talk) 17:18, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Milhist newsletter

I think Roger was planning to put in some sort of message regarding the coordinator stuff, so you might want to ask him before sending it out.

As far as the logistics go, sending out the newsletter basically involves:

1. Updating the links on the outreach department page.
2. Leaving Cbrown1023 (talk · contribs) a note asking him to send it out.

Hope that helps! :-) Kirill 17:29, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi Woody. I've updated the newsletter and added some stuff about BCAD (B-Class Assessment Drive). I'd be grateful if you'd give it the once over for typos. (You know me, typo-city!) May I leave arranging the remaining technicalities to you please? Many thanks, --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 08:06, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again, --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 12:42, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

(Outdent) Once you've added the new Admin section bit, can I leave it to you to arrange despatch? Or would you prefer I do so? --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 04:58, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Hilary Duff at FAC

But why did she fail the article??? the objections raised were minor prose issues which i had addressed a few days back. Since the opposing editors didnt respond, I left a note today on the opposing editors talk page to let them know that their objections had been addressed. Without giving some time to the nomination and without giving any opportunity to discuss this issue, how can she arbitrarily remove the nomination without specifying any reason??? I am posting a copy of this message on Sandy's talk page also.Gprince007 (talk) 18:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Article Quality rating

I have reverted your edit at Hulk (comics). The article actually FAILED, not just delisted. It was delisted as a result of the fail. Please read the talk page. You'll see that Admin David Fuchs failed the article. Thank you though for making an effort, but accuracy is important. ThuranX (talk) 19:59, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I do understand what you're saying. However, the admin states the article should never have passed. Therefore, his determination is that the initial pass was invalid on its' face, and so the article never should have been listed. This means that the five weeks it was listed are actually, well, let's call it a bureaucratic error. As such ,saying that it passed but was later delisted would be inaccurate. Delisting occurs when between the pass and the GAR major changes occur to ruin the quality of an article. This article never had sufficient quality, and thus failed from the get go. As such, I'm afraid that it's best to leave it as is, per Admin David Fuchs. Thank you for your efforts, but we must abide by consensus. ThuranX (talk) 20:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

You're not looking closely enough at the situation. I've tried to explain it to so many people, but they don't get it. It's not two stage charging each other, it's that one editor worked his ass off, getting help all over the place, and had consensus, and that an admin ignored consensus, gamed 3RR and so on. There's an AN/I section about it, where you can see all the relevant links. ThuranX (talk) 20:47, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm afriad I can not go to the talk page about this any more. I'm only pursuing this topic and no other until I get a community ban, or someone actually rebukes David Fuchs. Either way, at the end of that, I'm leaving. He's outright lying about me at this point, so there's no point in bothering with this project ever again. I jsut want to see if this ends with him or me banned. ThuranX (talk) 21:02, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Aston Villa edits

Hi there, I have reverted your edits to Aston Villa F.C. and Aston Villa F.C. seasons as they do not really improve the article for the layman reader. The shortening of the names in the seasons article would be confusing to those who don't know much about football (Albert Arthur Brown is confusing enough as it is), and this version of the names is preferred at WP:FLC.

I see your point but when you hoover over full name appears and I feel by reducing the depth of the rows you are able to get a clear understanding of the development/progression of the club over the seasons. Is there another way to do this? (Staylor st (talk) 21:24, 1 March 2008 (UTC))

Regarding the main AVFC article, some people don't know which flags are whose and so the nationalities are needed to distinguish this. The same can be said of the dates, the shortended version is against the Manual of Style, our style guide. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to leave a message at my talkpage. Regards. Woody (talk) 19:28, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Strongly disagree with regards to the nationalities - there is too much emphasis placed on this, surely this would be an issue with the players as well??

With the dates I can see your point of view, I felt by shortening them it would help to put emphasis on the years. Regards (Staylor st (talk) 21:24, 1 March 2008 (UTC))

Malmedy Massacre edits

Thanks very much for your help, I was a little hasty!fogle45 15:27, 03 March 2008 (UTC)

Birmingham derby

I'm sure you've got it covered, but similar recentism edits re:hooligans have been added to the Birmingham derby article. Best wishes. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:51, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Leo J. Meyer

Please have a look at the DRV for Leo J. Meyer (currently seen at User:Meyerj) located at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 March. Its my opinion that the article met the standards for verifiability and notability. I would appreciate your input into the matter. MrPrada (talk) 18:27, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Irish VC list

Hey, Woody. I've just initiated 29th Battalion, CEF to further blue-ify the list ;-). It's agonising to behold such a sub-stub but they're all valid, huh? Regards, SoLando (Talk) 21:52, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Unblock

Thank you kindly sir for handling this miscommunication like a gentleman. Creamy3 (talk) 22:53, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

In the news

I removed the "a" you added to "a FARC commander", because the A would only be necessary if we didn't give his name; since we've specified the commander, the "a" isn't really necessary. Alternately, we could say "killing a FARC commander (Raul Reyes)". Thoughts? Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 13:43, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

killing Raul Reyes, a FARC commander, and initiating... sounds good. I'll change it to that, if you don't mind. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 16:20, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Another Reddy Tor edit

User:134.48.216.40 .... Oy, on behalf of my country, I feel embarassed.... FlowerpotmaN·(t) 23:14, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

• (reply) Yeah, just kidding there, but really, he has turned all stalkery now. oh, last one was 193.239.206.132 FlowerpotmaN·(t) 23:25, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXIV (February 2008)

The February 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 08:27, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Cut & paste help

Thanks a lot for all your help, and the heads up on where such requests would be better served next time. Much appreciated! :) AllynJ (talk | contribs) 17:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

February FAC reviewer data

Hey, Woody. I asked Epbr123 to work with me on this long ago, but he's semi-retired, so I spent the afternoon working this up myself. You used to pass out Reviewer barnstars; would you mind watching WT:FAC for the post I'm going to make there, and doing the honors? I don't think the barnstars should come from me. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:20, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks so much, you're a gem :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:57, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Now, if I had the nerve to publish the negatives, the backlog at FAC might disappear. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:40, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

It's true that the backlog isn't that bad since I stay on it daily, but it's also true that some reviewers have to work extra hard to overcome some less judicious declarations and pull articles through to status. My real concern is what happens if those reviewers burn out on us. There are some wonderful articles sitting there getting nothing, while the diligent reviewers have to work on articles that get premature support before they're FA ready. It was interesting to do the spreadsheet and see that my perception was right: we need to take care of the solid reviewers so they don't burn out. I wish there was a way to discourage those who consistently lodge premature Supports, as that places a burden on other reviewers. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:43, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but. The issues aren't necessarily coming from new reviewers. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:09, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Well ... my first comment went well enough. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:03, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

your note

Too kind, Woody. Thank you. Tony (talk) 11:26, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi, Woody, thank you for your kind words and the shiny barnstar! I'll display it with pride. :) María (habla conmigo) 13:00, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

What a nice surprise this morning. Thank you! Maralia (talk) 16:11, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

HMS Hecla

Hi, no problem at all. Colledge also lists only seven, with the one serving as a depot ship being active during the Mahdist wars, having been purchased in 1878. From what it sounds like, she was probably in the Red Sea involved in the ferrying of troops, and keeping them supplied during the conflict. As to where your man got his VC from, it was not unusual for mobile detachments of sailors to be formed to support land operations, a similar example is HMS Powerful (1895) in the Boer War, and earlier examples in the Crimea and the Opium wars. I'm not sure why your other source says HMS Hecla (A133) was the eighth though... Is there any context with the claim? Hope this is of some help, Benea (talk) 17:30, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I've added a little more to it from Uboat.net, but she doesn't appear in Colledge, or Geoff Mason's ship histories, making me wonder whether she was formally commissioned, or was just used as a support vessel with RN crew? Benea (talk) 19:04, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Honoured

Wow. I can certainly say I did not expect that. Thank you very much. Peanut4 (talk) 19:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

CCPS vandals

If you would really like to help out, soft block 169.139.98.194, 209.26.221.66, and 63.171.102.131 indef, we can't have these vandals getting an abuse report initiated just because they want to test the system. I'm sure I'm not the only one who knows how to access Wikipedia from school, but it is clear that no one but experienced users with user accounts have known about the "secure Wikipedia" until recently. GO-PCHS-NJROTC (talk) 21:13, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the barnstar! I really appreciate it! Awadewit | talk 01:12, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Contest

On this page, I noticed that you graded last months, but seeing as you have some articles up this month, would you mind if at the end of the month I graded and did the setup? ~ Dreamy ^§ 02:44, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Or must you be a coordinator to do that? ~ Dreamy ^§ 02:47, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Alright, that makes sense, thank you for the reply and clearing that up. ~ Cheers! Dreamy ^§ 19:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Advice

I advice you in connection with my intention which was in good faith and never I made legal threats. My talk page is fully protected and I can answer only here. Regards, PIO 9 Mar 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.67.87.245 (talk) 16:26, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes my user page is open but my account is blocked by Yamla with a ban: I request annulment of this unfair ban!!!! Regards, PIO 9 Mar 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.67.87.245 (talk) 16:43, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

User:Retail Investor

I completely agree that User:Retail Investor was a spam account. However, I wasn't aware that we typically deleted user pages in this situation. Would blanking and salting be enough? The reason I ask is because I'm encouraging the user to WP:CHU and I don't know how deleting the user page might impact that. Just curious. Ronnotel (talk) 20:55, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

My request for bureaucratship

Dear Woody, thank you for taking part in my RfB. As you may know, it was not passed by bureaucrats.
I would, however, like to thank you for taking the time to voice your support, despite concerns cited by the opposition. Although RfA/B isn't really about a person, but more about the community, I was deeply touched and honoured by the outpouring of support and interest in the discussion. I can only hope that you don't feel your opinion was not considered enough - bureaucrats have to give everyone's thoughts weight.
I also hope that the results of this RfB lead to some change in the way we approach RfBs, and some thought about whether long-entrenched standards are a good thing in our growing and increasingly heterogenous community.
I was a little miserable after the results came out, so I'm going to spread the love via dancing hippos. As you do. :)
I remain eager to serve you as an administrator and as an editor. If at any point you see something problematic in my actions, please do not hesitate to call me out. ~ Riana ⁂ 13:48, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for semi-protecting article Gene Green Dbiel ^(Talk) 19:43, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Got a minute?

When you've got a moment could you please take a look at WT:MHCOORD#Admins? It would be nice to resolve it one or the other :) --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 13:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 14:15, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

JSTOR

Looking for this article:

The Fifty-first Annual Meeting

David A. Shannon

The Journal of Southern History, Vol. 52, No. 2 (May, 1986), pp. 213-238

This article consists of 26 page(s).

Can you help? I'll drop you an email now, so you have my address. Thanks! Maralia (talk) 21:41, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Delighted you were able to get to me so fast - but it hasn't arrived yet. Slow mail, perhaps? I will be patient :) Maralia (talk) 02:43, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

I got what must have been the second try - thanks very much! Hope your two week break is for a fun reason! Maralia (talk) 15:22, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Peer review idea

Hi, I have made a proposal that no peer review request be archived without some response. To aid in this, there is a new list of PR requests at least one week old that have had no repsonses beyond a semi-automated peer review. This list is at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog.

There are just over 100 names on the PR volunteers page, so I figure if each of these volunteers reviewed just one or two PR requests without a response from the list each month, it would easily take care of the "no response" backlog (as there have been 2 or 3 such unanswered requests a day on average).

If you would be able to help out with a review or two a month from the "no responses" backlog list that would be great (and much appreciated). Please discuss questions, comments, or ideas at the PR talk page and thanks in advance for your help, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:08, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

PS Welcome back

Strange question ?

Have you ever played the computer game called "age of empires 3" online ?--Burds (talk) 08:12, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Royal Navy volunteer at WP:PR?

Could you review this? Basketball110 _{Go Longhorns!} 20:37, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

	Thanks!
So, yeah, you know how these work... »»»» Thank you very much for your support in my recent RfA, which closed with a final tally of (75/1/0). Your trust in me is greatly appreciated, and I can assure you it has not been misplaced. I shall use these tools to the best of my ability, and will do my best not to let you down. Thank you once again, and happy editing as always! Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:32, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

BCAD

Just the gentlest of gentle reminders ... could you spare a little time to finish off your range at BCAD please? The drive has only a week or so left to run :) All the best, --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 06:40, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Happy First Day of Spring!

Happy First Day of Spring!

A Beautiful Cherry Tree in Spring Bloom

Theres nothing like seeing a field full of spring flowers.

Just wishing you a wonderful First Day of Spring {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}! ~~~~

If you live in the Southern Hemisphere and are entering the season of Autumn not Spring then I wish you a happy First Day of Autumn {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}!
To spread this message to others, add {{subst:First Day Of Spring}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

PIO

Hi Woody. I'm a sysop of it.wiki. There are some problems with user PIO. For same reasons, he was blocked infinite on it.wiki. He writes in Italian on my talk page: he says that admins are a problem because blocked infinite users (sic), that wiki isn't a free enciclopedia, that wiki is like Mao Zedong regime. PIO's first message in my talk referred to his infinite block on it.wiki; there are personal attacks and flames tentatives. I see that you've other contacts with his user. Excuse for my English, regards and thank you. --Leoman3000 (talk) 18:36, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

FLC

I have left comments at the FLC for List of Victoria Cross recipients of the Royal Navy -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 20:14, 25 March, 2008

Flower class corvettes

Hello
I see you are involved in the ship project and the military history project, so perhaps you can advise me. I’m involved in a discussion at Flower class corvettes on the correct class name, and I’m needing some perspective. Can you make a suggestion? How can I resolve it?
Xyl 54 (talk) 17:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I've given my opinion at the page. I'm afraid I was a little short but I was gobsmacked by the fact that there was even a debate. The sources are very clear, the user in question is basing his argument on a misunderstanding of Royal Navy conventions and a rather baffling refusal to dismiss any sources that question his reading of the situation. Benea (talk) 19:51, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

(Moved over so as to see all discussion) Regarding your recent disagreement there, may I ask you to stop your circular argument. Another user has just listed a rather complete list of reasons why your name change is unneccessary and accurate. The discussion has degenerated into a circular argument with sources backing up the other side. Could you please agree to disagree and back away from the page? Woody (talk) 20:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

If the page stays at "Flower", I can live with it. I've sourced the in-page change, which (AFAIK) is all I need to keep it in the page; you can argue with Preston over "misunderstanding of Royal Navy conventions", 'cause it's his authority I'm relying on, not mine. If he's wrong, I still want to see an official source saying so, 'cause I'm not buying generic names as official, & all the sources on the other side don't (AFAIK) say Gladiolus is not the class name; they just don't say it is. So who's misunderstanding the sources? Or conventions? Trekphiler (talk) 21:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

According to the string of sources that people have taken the trouble to list, that would be, err you. Why would they bother to write "The Flower class corvettes, which were not called the Gladiolus corvettes, were built..." This is called "Proving a negative." And where have you got this concept of a generic name from, which seems to state that a ship class must always officially known by the first ship? An official source would help your case though somehow I wouldn't be surprised if you failed to provide one. Benea (talk) 21:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

A belated thank you for your (and Benea’s ) intervention. Yes, it was going in circles, and yes I can agree to disagree and find something else to do; I’m not short of projects and this has been eating up the time. It seems to be resolved now anyway. Xyl 54 (talk) 15:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

About Electrobe

In fact this user has been joining many edit war and editing without consents of other wikipedians. (see his user talk) I have also try to revert some of his edits but you can not withstand with him finally. I see you are experienced wikipedian, can you suggest furthur actions to be taken against him? --Anglicaneditor (talk) 12:28, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

MILHIST template

OK sounds good--Kumioko (talk) 18:17, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Getting exasperated...

No worries dude. I could have expressed it better. Let's move on. I'll reappraise tomorrow and let you know how I feel. I only added comments when I saw your note to Scorpion, thought I could add another support and guarantee promotion. Problem was I found a few snags. Anyway, should be four supports tomorrow... have a good evening, no hard feelings all round I hope. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:36, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, 2-0 at halftime was all I saw. Waiting for MOTD... Take it easy... The Rambling Man (talk) 21:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Hofkirche

If you read the article, you will see it was built as a mausoleum, but the body was never in the end moved there. I think it was better before, but I can't change it. Johnbod (talk) 15:05, 30 March 2008 (UTC)