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User talk:Wjemather/2021Australian Order of MeritThis is the earliest article I've seen where the Order of Merit is referenced. It is from May 1985 and also refers to the 1983 Nedlands Masters as an OoM event. Thought it may be of some use. Happy New Years, Oogglywoogly (talk) 05:44, 1 January 2021 (UTC)Ooggylwoogly Japan Golf Tour 2020/21 season?Hey, I was looking on the JGTO website earlier today and noticed that they released dates of fixtures of 2021 tournaments. I wasn't sure however if this is a continuation from the 2020 season i.e. making it the 2020–21 Japan Golf Tour, as they still have it listed as the 2020 season although this could just be a mistake that needs updating. I would doubt it's a new season separate from 2020 however. Link here: [1] Jimmymci234 (talk) 18:05, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
2020 CME Group Tour ChampionshipFunny how the nationalities chart by another editor was harmless since 18 December. I come along and tweak it a little, and suddenly it has to be abolished. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 09:23, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Seniors Masters Qualifyingwhy are you removing this from the snooker season 2020/2021 ?. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.251.209.218 (talk) 21:13, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
2020–21 snooker season (emboldening Major Tournaments)Please engage in having these discussions then, as (as I already mentioned) it's in keeping with other sporting wikipedia pages, and is useful for the viewers. Furthermore, there is a box key at the footer of the table where it can be explained, if that's your concern. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexgriffin81 (talk • contribs) 10:52, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Cricket AfDsThanks for your helpful contributions on the various cricket AfDs - a lot of untruths on Wikipedia policies being put forward as poor arguments for deletion. Deus et lex (talk) 10:09, 28 January 2021 (UTC) Timex OpenI've changed the winner of the 1982 Timex Open. See my talk page User talk:Nigej#1982 Timex Open. Not much available it seems on these domestic French PGA events. Nigej (talk) 07:44, 2 February 2021 (UTC) Royal Fremantle OpenI was looking to make a page on this event. The information you have in your sandbox (1977-82) looks pretty good. I was wondering if the event preceded 1977 however. I have a link that says that Ross Metherell won the 1972 "Fremantle Open." It says it was the third time he won the event. Oogglywoogly (talk) 00:28, 3 February 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
1969 World CupCoordinates do not show exactly the relevant course in the small island of Singapore. That is why I left out the map of Singapore. EEJB (talk) 12:14, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, but think still to much south EEJB (talk) 18:05, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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Great. This course seems not to have been used for pro tournaments in recent years. EEJB (talk) 19:01, 25 February 2021 (UTC) The flag issue came up awhile back. see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Golf/Archive 5#Royal Porthcawl Golf Club in the sea?, {{Infobox golf facility/testcases}}. Basically File:Icona golf.svg has the hole where you'd expect it. Not quite sure why we're not using it. Forget the details. Nigej (talk) 10:26, 26 February 2021 (UTC) 
2020/21/22 Sunshine Tour??According to their website the 2020/21 season consisted of the 11 events in 2020; finishing at the South African Open. The events starting from next week are part of the 2021/22 season according to their website. I even checked the Money Lists and it says that Christiaan Bezuidenhout won the 2020/21 Order of Merit? I never heard anything about this. Would you have any knowledge about this new split season? Thanks. Jimmymci234 (talk) 12:32, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
ANICould you please link the 2017 RFC in your comment at ANI. This will allow other editors to find in and better understand your comment. Mjroots (talk) 08:42, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
New Zealand/Australian circuit OoMJust found this link that references an Order of Merit on the New Zealand/Australian circuit in 1964. Specifically, it references something called the "BP bonus competition." Not sure if it would be of interest... Oogglywoogly (talk) 03:17, 28 February 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly Hong Kong Open citationsI just added web citations for most of Hong Kong Open events. However, still remaining are older references citing the South China Morning Post without a link. I was thinking about deleting them but wasn't sure of the protocol. Do we prefer citations with links? Oogglywoogly (talk) 03:04, 4 March 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
earlier Malayan Opens?It states in this link that a man named Fred Turner won the 1960 Malayan Open. In the same article it states that a man named N.A. Harvey won the same event in 1957. Turner's win is also referenced here and here. Not sure if it is the same event as the Malayan Open (e.g. Malaysian Open (golf))? On the wiki page it starts with 1962... Oogglywoogly (talk) 06:22, 5 March 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
/*an example of arbitrary betting site as gamble usa/*https://gamble-usa.com/arbitrage-betting/ this site shows the example of arbitrary gamble of usa which is an relatable page for the site. How is it an inappropriate?Unish88880 (talk) 13:07, 5 March 2021 (UTC)Unish88880 (talk) 13:04, 5 March 2021 (UTC) } — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unish88880 (talk • contribs) 12:41, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Does these links meet the criteria? https://www.bettingexpert.com/academy/advanced-betting-theory/arbitrage-betting http://www.topbettingreviews.com/arbitrage-betting-asian-handicap/ https://www.profitaccumulator.co.uk/what-is-arbing-or-arbitrage/ Unish88880 (talk) 13:43, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
These links are already present in the page then why are they allowed? https://www.bettingexpert.com/academy/advanced-betting-theory/arbitrage-betting http://www.topbettingreviews.com/arbitrage-betting-asian-handicap/ https://www.profitaccumulator.co.uk/what-is-arbing-or-arbitrage/ Unish88880 (talk) 14:02, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Is there any possible way to get this link on wikipedia? Unish88880 (talk) 14:35, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
As an External link for arbitrage betting explained? Unish88880 (talk) 14:45, 5 March 2021 (UTC) 2021 Players ChampionshipYou’re very good at saying that the field needs fixed but why can’t you fix it yourself? If you think it needs changed then you change it yourself rather than relying on others to do the donkey work for you! Jimmymci234 (talk) 07:07, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Kookaburra Sport content/links deleted.Hi Wjemather, I am just responding to your comments regarding my editing of the Kookaburra Sport page. I work at Kookaburra sport and was just taking the time to update the information regarding the company on the wikipedia page as there is plenty of missing information. I understand that I may have used several web-links to our page, as that is where all the new information is getting uploaded. We are also recently set up this brand new website and creating brand awareness with our wiki page will be more than useful. I have read through the manual guidelines, and outside of the over-categorisation, I don't see why you have deleted the content. For instance, Kookaburra is the number one ball used for 9 of the 12 cricket playing nations. This is fact. Could you please get back to me with some ways I can add content without it getting removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dweb91 (talk • contribs) 22:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
masters 2021shouldn’t gary woodland be listed on the 2021 masters field for his US Open win? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.168.225.22 (talk) 23:51, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
WGC Match PlayThe names being entered onto the tops of each group are only for a few minutes, to have a way to see the names to set the matches. After the matched are put in, the names on top of the groups will be taken out. It is done this way each year. Have a little patience, it will look good when it is finished. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 16:27, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
"Liaqat Ali (cricketer, born 1987)" listed at Redirects for discussion
Final 16 bracketAs a courtesy, I thought you might want to know the following information in advance, so you don't get upset when you see it. In the last few years on the WGC Match Play page, we typically would prepare the possible advancing players in the knockout stage by entering an either/or onto the next round (the rounds of 8, 4, and 2) and hiding it temporarily. That way, it makes things much easier to navigate when the time comes, instead of having to fumble around trying to find the proper line to enter information onto. Your cooperation with this would be appreciated. I'll put a link here so you can see what I am speaking of ..... https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2019_WGC-Dell_Technologies_Match_Play&diff=prev&oldid=890107043 Johnsmith2116 (talk) 17:57, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Cricket ListsHi mate, thanks for the cricket lists you are creating for different sides, they're very helpful for when redirecting at AfD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 17:54, 26 March 2021 (UTC) Consensus on the editing of golf articlesHello. I had previously read the WP:GOLF and I guess you might have "consensus" due to your opinion being there and 1 other guy agreeing with you, that indicated he probably didn't in the past. Maybe a few us "dissenters" should comment there and show a different opinion of Consensus. If you see that a different opinion of consensus is developed on these talk pages and you fall into the minority on consensus, will you quit just simply reverting other people's work? And none of this is personal, but it's tough to watch someone put so much work into something and see you simply blow it up with a quick little reversion and a note saying that it violates Wikipedia standards. Had the standards been violated all these years ago, I presume the articles would have never looked like they did. I think people just don't want to fight a back and forth reversion war, you know? And as a side note, today's 3rd day of the Match Play was INSANE, as I listened to it and I followed it from work. Jeff5768 (talk) 04:19, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Your messageLeaving a general message on WT:CRIC so that my opinion doesn't get lost within others' pages. Read and noted. Bobo. 11:41, 28 March 2021 (UTC) Pakistan List-A cricketHi mate, you seem reasonable knowledgeable when it comes to Pakistani cricket. I've copied the list of FC/List-A/T20 competitions over to my sandbox to try and come up with a better list of leagues that are presumed notable for coverage. While I think I know what i'm doing with Pakistani FC and T20 cricket I'm not really that clued up on the List-A side and which Pakistani List-A tournaments playing in would likely bring notability, and any dates when presumed notability would begin (such as I have deemed that the FC Quaid-e-Azam Trophy would likely bring notability when it was reformed to 6 teams). Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 13:11, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
minor edits.Sorry about that. I understand now. Thanks Wjemather - I'm slowly learning. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheekychives (talk • contribs) 09:42, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
John Allen restoredHi mate, seen that the John Allen Irish cricketer has been restored (for some reason is on my articles created list now). Do you think we should move it to Wallace Allen (cricketer) as that's probably his common name? Rugbyfan22 (talk) 13:20, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Federally Administered Tribal Areas cricketersHello, you created the List of Federally Administered Tribal Areas cricketers by referencing cricketarchive.com. However I am unable to access the website as it is for paid members only. I wanted to remove Liaqat Ali from the list as it's the only entry without an article, and also because of the multiple requests in Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 24#Liaqat Ali (cricketer, born 1987) to remove it. Do let me know what is mentioned about Liaqat Ali in the cricketarchive, and if possible the exact link. Jay (talk) 17:54, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
List of Links Golf CoursesHi there. Just wanted to say hello as I note you’ve added and improved a few things on that page. I added quite a bit of info myself a while back, some of it based on personal knowledge and experience playing these courses, as well as industry knowledge on links. To improve the page, many of the listed courses will need to be referenced. Some can come from reviews from Top 100 GCs, National Club Golfer, Today’s Golfer, Golf World, Golf Monthly etc, others from articles and the remainder from club websites. This will be a time-consuming project, but I’m happy to do as much as I can. FYI I actually made many additions to the original list, which was created a few years ago and based on the Peper & Campbell 246 True Links book. It’s a useful starting point, but missed out many genuine links, plus some links/heathland/parkland hybrids, which are common. I have to this end included clifftop and coastal heathland courses which have links characteristics - sandy, bouncy turf, undulations and sea breezes, coastal grasses such as fine fescues, bents & marram, coastal plantlife such as gorse, broom, heather etc, and also well drained courses close to the sea which have strong links characteristics. Aldeburgh and (previously) Thorpeness are in this category. Together with leaving in some entries others have made, this has lead to an eclectic mix, which showcases the trie diversity of styles of links and links-like golf. Indeed the Peper & Campbell book included examples of clifftop links (Sheringham) and coastal heathland (Formby, Carnoustie, Panmure). It was from such precedent that I included Thorpeness, which could be reinstated. All in all, much to discuss and I’d welcome your views. Ross-shire (talk) 12:16, 7 May 2021 (UTC) DiscussionHi @Wjemather:, I request you to share your thoughts on the discussion about requested move of the pages ICC Test Championship, ICC ODI Championship and ICC T20I Championship. Thank you. Selva15469 (talk) 10:42, 21 May 2021 (UTC) Jack Nicklaus GOAT DebateHi, you mentioned that consensus was that Nicklaus was not the greatest golfer of all time on the talk page but only 3 people came to that conclusion. In the 4 articles cited, the first had a broken link (will remove), the second said Jack, the third had 3 writers (2 voted for Jack, 1 voted for Hogan), and the fourth article did not have a list. So of the 4 opinions cited, 3 (75%) said Jack Nicklaus is the greatest golfer of all time. There are countless lists on the internet from experts not cited on the wiki page and virtually all of them have Jack at #1. I'm not Jack's son or something but the consensus amongst experts its quite unanimous. I believe wording should most accurately reflect expert & public opinion, something like... "Jack Nicklaus is widely considered by experts and fans alike one of, if not the greatest golfer who has ever lived." I will update the wiki page to reflect this wording, if someone more senior for whatever reason does not like this wording, I will accept that and not engage in a revert war. Problem?Not sure what your problem is but how do you presume wiki contributors find consensus without voicing their perspectives?
Caribbean Tour referenceI happened to come across a reliable third-party source that references the three-event 1973 "Caribbean tour." Not sure if it would be of some use. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/80334763/jacklin-skipping-florida/ Best, Oogglywoogly (talk) 05:05, 27 June 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
Bangladesh Premier League broadcasting sectionI have provided all sources on Bangladesh Premier League broadcasting section you can now check it...thanks MaazRajput123 (talk) 11:55, 12 July 2021 (UTC) I was looking to make a "Tour" column for this event. However, I don't know the abbreviation for "Tournament Players Series." (Obviously I would expect "TPS" but don't know for sure.) I don't believe OWGR granted this organization points so there is probably no ready-made abbreviation from them. Any help would be appreciated. Oogglywoogly (talk) 06:30, 16 July 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
Playoff notesSurely if you're willing to keep playoff notes that are more detailed, then shouldn't they be in a separate section? I thought the point of using tables was to summarize information and not go OTT with excessive details. I'm also of the view that having more notes in the table creates more clutter, (less is more sometimes, but that's just my personal take). Jimmymci234 (talk) 19:09, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
Naming of the New CourseHi Wjemather, I am beginning to put together a new article for the New Course at St Andrews. However I would like your opinion as to what to name it. "New Course" is already in use. Therefore in my opinion I have two options:
I prefer No. 2, New Course, St Andrews, what do you think? SethWhales talk 06:39, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
TPS tourI have a link for the 1985 PGA Tour Media Guide. It has a schedule for the 1984 TPS tour. In addition, there should be schedules for the other years in the other media guides. Basically, I think what you have in your sandbox is pretty good. If you had any reservations about publishing stuff, I think these media guides should resolve any issues. For a reliable source of events, these seem about as good as they get. Oogglywoogly (talk) 06:01, 5 August 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly Cazoo ClassicI was looking at the event page for this week’s Cazoo Classic on the ET website. I happened to notice the “History” section and it has listed the editions of the English Open up to 2002. It’s as clear as mud as to how they’re treating this tournament as that is a complete contradiction to when the Cazoo sponsorship was announced. Any thoughts about this and do we need to amend the article again now? Jimmymci234 (talk) 21:43, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
This from Koobit: [3]. Says Cazoo Classic was formed in 1988 played as the English Open, although does say Sam Horsfield is defending champion having won the Hero Open last year. This is just a mess. Jimmymci234 (talk) 09:24, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
Oh right ok. Jimmymci234 (talk) 10:11, 10 August 2021 (UTC) Seems like the majority of sources I can find are saying it’s the first return of the English Open since 2002. Jimmymci234 (talk) 10:39, 10 August 2021 (UTC) StrongOkay well... I'm not the reason it won't survive at AfD, so... redirect if it's truly necessary. Worth looking at the other pages in the category - I'm surprised these have been passed over for so long. Bobo. 12:46, 28 August 2021 (UTC) I've not been the most active here recently - summertime and other tasks have taken hold. I had missed the conversation, thanks for updating. I'm happy at least that we have brightline guidelines as far as that is concerned, even if they are not universally adhered to. This clarifies things as much as need be in terms of notability for me. As i've maintained over and over again, it takes conversations to alter these guidelines and I'm happy these have taken place - however frustrated I am that it's taken this long to do so. No criticism of an individual, you understand, only the system. Bobo. 15:58, 28 August 2021 (UTC) Please forgive meForgive me for missing your reply on CK's page, having been unaware of the change. Bobo. 16:14, 28 August 2021 (UTC) Patrick ReedI see that Usegolffacts has now been active on Patrick’s page. I’m not sure if you are aware or not but @usegolffacts on Twitter is Reed’s ‘burner’ account and I believe it is run by his wife Justine. Might be something to look out for. Jimmymci234 (talk) 12:04, 14 September 2021 (UTC) WGCs on the Japan tourI got started with adding the majors to the Japan tour's seasonal calendars. I was wondering if the WGCs fell into the same category. All of the seasonal calendars imply that the WGCs were events on tour. However, on our pages for the WGCs we do not mention the Japan Golf Tour as one of the sponsoring tours. Not sure what you make of this. Oogglywoogly (talk) 03:56, 17 September 2021 (UTC)Oogglwoogly Modified Template for Windows NT.Hello, Wjemather. I have modified the template for Windows NT. See how it looks now. {{Windows NT}} VictorRocks (talk) 18:44, 13 October 2021 (UTC) Rory McIlroy recents changesHello how are you doing today ?. Can you tell me how anyone in their right minds would think those last 3 events should be added to other wins ?. The Match is not included in professional wins and the Taylor made driving relief was an exhibition also as described by Sky sports who showed it at the time. Do you agree ?. Regards 92.251.144.71 (talk) 10:41, 14 December 2021 (UTC).
Where has it been verified that these events are deemed to be professional may I ask ?. Or was it just decided by people on a talkpage ?. 92.251.144.71 (talk) 16:53, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
I asked you a direct question ? 92.251.144.71 (talk) 17:20, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
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