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OblivioWiki

I noticed that you removed OblivioWiki from the wiki links because it's a "commercial wiki," which means what? I'm not an expert at policies here, but if listing it goes against one of them, then I'll agree with the link remove. However, you'd have to remove the GuildWiki and NeverWiki links from Guild Wars and Neverwinter Nights 2, respectively, as they are sister sites and they'd be considered "commercial wikis" as well.

If the link is being removed because "2 wikis would suffice," well, Elder Scrolls Pages is a general Elder Scrolls wiki, which also includes Oblivion and older games, while the other is a mod-listing only wiki. Oblivion would well fit with the two as it's a Oblivion-only wiki. Btw, what makes the other two not commercial wikis, if that's the reason for removal?

I have replied on Talk:The_Elder_Scrolls_IV:_Oblivion.--Voidvector 02:08, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the Cold War (Battlefield 2142) article

I see you've marked my article for not citing sources. Could you help me with this problem? Most of the information I draw is from the official website, but I don't know how to cite them other than listing their address at the bottom. Do you know how to put the little numbers at the end of sentences and such? Thanks. - Windows2142, 8 October 2006

fallout 3

Why did you revert the edit from "supposedly" to "currently"? There are many proofs, official, that Bethesda _is_ developing F3; you can find them in the references to the Fallout 3 article... agnus 17:02, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. I have recently added link to a scanned version of one article from "PC Gamer Magazine" (rather credible source, in my opinion), where the author claims that he visited Bethesda and saw some work in progress. No real build, but lots of concept art. This is added as note number 2 under the article.agnus 21:35, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Big Dipper

Please tell me when you're through messing up the article so that I can revert it. Thank you. B00P 11:13, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

I believe that understand your reasoning for the changes, having read the edit summaries, and disagree with all of them. However, being a reasonable person, I invite you to list them all at once on my talk page. Use the section "Big Dipper 3" at the bottom. I shall hold off reverting to give you a chance. Fair enough? B00P 14:38, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

First, thank you for the prompt response. If parts of what I write here seem overly negative, please read through to the end and you'll see it's not really that bad.

Second, your reasons are as I thought them to be. Of the seven changes - there was an eighth, the dab at the top, which you, yourself removed - one is perfectly acceptable, and I would have (and still intend to) re-establish after the revert. Two others, while poorly executed, make relevant points - I was already aware of one - and will be attended to. Another, which I was also aware of, needs to be discussed. My "messing up" remark related to some layout features that you missed with your edits; I was not complaining about your intentions. I'll go into the details below.

Third, there are three considerations that you appear to have ignored.

1. A scan of the article's history would have shown that the person who wrote the article is still involved in maintaining it. Common courtesy would indicate that while adding additional information is right and proper, a massive flurry of changes to the layout is a different matter entirely. A perusal of the file history would have shown that I welcome new information, although I may, on occasion do some slight rewording or alter the placement of the data.
2. A glance at the article's discusion page would have shown that one of your changes had already been dealt with. And another, partially so. It's best to avoid jumping in without knowing that you are going over already plowed ground.
3. Regarding layout, it is clear that you have a large monitor. Not everyone does. While your changes to the layout look okay on a large screen, they are just awful on a small one. I have been careful to maintain the layout so that it looks acceptable on both, if not perfect for either. Here is the main cause of the "messing up" remark.

Okay, fourth, on to specifics. I'm using your numbering system.

1. Added page title to the first sentence Not absolutely ncessary. As the reader has just seen the title, he hardly needs to see it again, boldfaced, in the very first sentence. Although it is normally done, there are two considerations that override it here. 1) As should be clear, the asterism has many names and it would be incorrect to "annoint" one as the name. The article needed a title, so it got the one best-known to most readers. Notice, however, that the lead paragraph focuses on another name. This was quite deliberate. 2) With the map in place at the top right, the left-hand text column was the correct length to match. This was also quite deliberate. So, while the verbiage did not match the usual cookie-cutter format, it was correct.
2. Grouped "Names and lore" based on regions of the world or source Matter of taste. I've got my reasons for having it the way it was, which are too complicated to go into here. You're not wrong - I just prefer it the other way.
3. Added some more information about Irish lore based on The Starry Plough No, that's information about Irish politics. If you had checked the Discussion page and then the History page, you would have discovered that the Starry Pough was added by Dermo69. I trimmed it down and he approved. See the Discussion page for the dialogue on this very point.
4. Changed the Native American myth to Abenaki myth That's fine for the "Hunter" version, but not for the "Cubs" version. This star lore was more widespread. I have no problem with a link, but I have a more direct one in mind.
5. Changed stuff about region using Chinese characters Fine.
6. Removed all the interwiki links for Ursa Major This is the one that needs to be discussed. I was aware of the links, but let them stand for a number of reasons. 1) Somebody placed them there, and as long as they aren't hurting the article, I felt it was best not to disturb someone else's work. 2) Although Ursa Major is incorrect, I never investigated the full range of what is on "the other side." In other words, having yanked the links, what is left for the other wikis. Do they have links to the real Ursa Major article? If not, did you put them in as replacements? 3) If there's nothing else, wouldn't these links have been better than nothing? Did you give these questions any consideration? Had this been the only change you made, I would have let it stand. As it is, I ask you to be absolutely sure that what you did is for the best. If so, after the revert, you can pull the plug again.
7. Moved the map to the "star" section I was aware of the situation, and your reasoning is valid, but the execution was poorly done. To begin with, the size of the map - correct for the top - is too large for placement here. It really fouls up the layout of the text. Conversely, the photograph you moved to the top is too small, also fouling up the layout. Further, while the photo may look good to you, I've been looking for a replacement. On many screens it appears as a completely black rectangle. One must click on it to see anything, and the results are less than inspiring. This is hardly the way to begin the article. The actual solution, which I was about to impliment, is to put a second map just above the table.

So, here's the plan. I'll revert, then repeat your #5. I shall also add a link as per your #4. After due consideration about it, do what you will regarding #6. As mentioned, I already have plans that will take care of your #7. This seems reasonable to me, and I have no problem with working with you. I shall wait on the revert if you'd care to respond on my Talk Page. B00P 08:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

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Okay, I've done the revert.

I believe that we both discovered upon further investigation the #5 actually pointed to an Chinese version of the Teapot asterism in Sagittarius, not the Big Dipper. I've left the link out.

On the other hand, your #6 - the interwikis - was absolutely correct. They had been added shortly before you yanked them. The revert removed them.

The more I thought about it, the more I realised that if you found my idiosyncratic arrangement of entries confusing, then others would, too. I restored your scheme as per #2.

I hope that you are pleased by the results. B00P 14:54, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

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System File Protection

I have checked the citation [1], and there is no "System File Protection" or "SFP" words on the page. System File Protection in ME cannot have been replaced by Windows File Protection in 2000 since 2000 is older. However, SFP was replaced by WFP when XP was released - not when 2000 was released. There is nothing relevant about that in the reference. It is just a description of the feature, and I already know about that. ONEtryout 10:17, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

conversation continue at Talk:System File Checker. --Voidvector 16:06, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

dogmeat page graphic

i took it down, and left my reasoning as the caption to the edit in the edit history. it is unlikely dogmeat and is more likely just a painting signifying some part of the game universe's history. really nice screen from the game, tho. maybe it should be kept and put elsewhere, either on the fallout general page or in the commons? 206.248.168.241 23:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Sure, no biggy. --Voidvector 17:11, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

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Punctuation

Sorry for the edit conflict on Punctuation. Can you check East Asian Punctuation (the new page) to ascertain whether your last edit to Punctuation got carried across to the new page. Thanks. Neil Dodgson 13:20, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

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I didn't create the original image, so I can't make the statement that I made it. I just wrote a description of the image origin which I know. Hopefully the user who made the screenshot would say something. --Voidvector 09:44, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Blizzard Entertainment

Ah, thank you for let me know it, I didn't notice. By the way, I reinstated your edits to the Controversies section with explanation in the talk page.--Supparluca 11:02, 25 June 2007 (UTC)