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Invisible Class Empire page editing

This article is the subject of an educational assignment at Oklahoma State University supported by the Wikipedia Ambassador Program during the 2012 Q3 term. Further details are available on the course page.

Asdimd (talk)

Hello... A partner and I are collaborating to make Wiki-pages for the book, The New Class Society: Goodbye American Dream? and also the term, invisible class empire as it relates to different sociological concepts... We should be finished with our edits soon; it is my first time using this format and edits have to be approved by my partner before I add them... I appreciate any advice you could give us.

Sincerely - — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bsmith2012 (talk • contribs) 06:34, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is unfortunately not a space to co-ordinate your school project. There are many other sites on the internet for that. Please read Wikipedia:Notability (books) for information on which books should have articles here on Wikipedia. Travelbird (talk) 12:06, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Wikipedia is a space to co-ordinate school projects, as you can see from the Wikipedia Education Program. Moreover, Perrucci and Wysong's book, The New Class Society, is a textbook that offered many new insights and critiques of the class structure in the United States, which is a substantial contribution to sociology and the field of social stratification. Lastly, Bsmith2012 is my student working on this project for my course, and you can follow our project from our course page Wikipedia:USEP/Courses/Social Stratification and Inequality (Rich Ellefritz). His work is being monitored by myself as well as our project ambassador. Asdimd (talk) 02:58, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are certainly welcome (and encouraged) to edit Wikipedia in co-ordination with other people. However, if you are are actively involved in Wikipedia programmes, you should be aware of our WP:Notability guidelines indicating what should be included on here and what not.

Also: Wikipedia's mainspace is generally not a place for school projects, simply put because just because a teacher tells you to create a page, a page will not automatically be permitted. I.e. if you are reading a book in class, that does not mean that Wikipedia requires an article on the subject matter. You may refer to our guidelines on books at Wikipedia:Notability (books) as to which books should be included and which not.

As to the concept you created an article on: it should only be included if the concept as such has received widespread coverage in other publications, which will usually mean that it has a wide acceptznce in the scientific community. New concepts often do not reach that level yet. They may in the future become accepted and/or receive coverage, and that means that if and when they do, and article should be created, not before. 06:42, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

On Your Context deletion proposal

As a response to your message on my page (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ABXDataLogic), I'd like to state that the main reason why this page was created lays on the motivation explained in the History section. In other words, unlike digg.com or other social bookmarking websites, Your Context is solely focused to promoting personal bloggers who would otherwise get lost in the cloud of a plethora of online content... If this reason for having such an entry is insufficient, then I wouldn't necessarily contest your deletion proposal. _{A B X}^{T • ៛}

The main problem with new sites on the internet is that is is extremely difficult to distinguish between promotional spam by site creators/fans and bona fide encylopaedic coverage. Therefore we have a ver strict policy to the effect that sites must have already received widespread coverage elsewhere until they can be included here on Wikipedia. Travelbird (talk) 12:02, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

United States occupation of Puerto Rico

I started working on that page because the content in English is nowhere close to the one in the Spanish Wikipedia. I think it deserves a spot since is part of the longest occupation in human history (PR has been a colony for more than 500 years/Spain-US). I started working on it, but still a work in progress since I only had a couple minutes and had to leave my computer. The context is not suppose to be focused on that, part of the idea is that not only one person contributes to it but rather different people so it may be more balanced. It is also closely linked to many other pages that deal with the issue, but not exactly about the history of the occupation. I have planned when I get back to add the quotes and material from books, but I am studying abroad in China so I don't have access to that material for the moment. I believe it would be useful to have this article now with controversies as Palestine and the latest referendum pretty fresh on people's mind. -Nosferican — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nosferican (talk • contribs) 11:37, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with above article was that a) is did not adhere to the WP:NPOV policy and b) that any pertinent info that could be included here was already covered t History_of_puerto_rico#United_States_rule_.281898.E2.80.93present.29. If you feel that information is missing from that article, please feel free to add it there, but be sure to keep the tone and content WP:NPOV. Travelbird (talk) 12:05, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Luca Pinelli

Hello Travelbird. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Luca Pinelli, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: translated from it.wiki so not a copyvio. Thank you. SmartSE (talk) 15:53, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Great. I had found a copy at http://www.mashpedia.it/Luca_Pinelli which is copyrighted, but if the Wikipedia entry is older, then I don't have a problem with the page. Travelbird (talk) 15:55, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of the article Agatik

Dear Travelbird, I am trying to create a new article called 'Jayashree Kulkarni'. This is about a very famour Indian author. My article is pending acceptance and the reviewer has asked me to make it referenceable.

Therefore, I am trying to add links and low resolution book covers to the 18 books published by this author. These books are popular in India. The book titled 'Agatik' is just 1 out of 18 books. I then plan to add other references too. The author and her works are well known. She has received many awards including the first woman detective story fiction writer in the Marathi language.

Please can you accept, so i can complete my work of referencing other books and make the article verifiable and referenceable. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sachinkul (talk • contribs) 16:00, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You need to provide sources that prove that the book in question passes Wikipedia:Notability (books) Travelbird (talk) 16:07, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Travelbird, I went through the criteria for Notability. I believe only 1 of the 5 criteria mentioned applies to this book. i.e. 1.The book has been the subject[1] of multiple, non-trivial[2] published works whose sources are independent of the book itself.[3] This includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries and reviews... - The book Agatik contains 10 stories. All these stories have been previously published by various publishers in leading Marathi language magazines. I will now make a list of each of these 10 stories, when and where they were published, page number of each magazine, and date of publication. If i submit this data, will this article be accepted please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sachinkul (talk • contribs) 20:40, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No necessarily. You need to prove why the book "Agatik" is notable. If it is simply a compilation of other stories, then that doesn't make this book notable, regardless of whether the other stories are. Travelbird (talk) 20:43, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Travelbird, OK, in that case I agree to deleting this article. I will just insert a reference to this book from the main article as with many other books, so the main article gets accepted as referenceable. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sachinkul (talk • contribs) 12:47, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of "Lesley Ann Patten" entry

I accidentally saved my work in progress. The complete entry will have references and external links. Please review again in a day or two. Thanks, Tommy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TommyGetz (talk • contribs) 18:16, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Once sources are added I or someone else will remove the deletion tag. Travelbird (talk) 18:45, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion converted to PROD: The Third Option by Derek Gunn

Hello Travelbird. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on The Third Option by Derek Gunn to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 20:06, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

CSD does apply. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Third Option by Derek Gunn was the previous deletion discussion. Travelbird (talk) 20:08, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I know, but G4 only applies if the article is "sufficiently identical and unimproved", and this has been cut down so that it is no longer copyvio or promotional. In fact, as it has been previously AfD'd the system won't accept a PROD, so we are back to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Third Option by Derek Gunn (2nd nomination). I feel foolish, and will no doubt be accused of process-wonkery, but though greatly tempted I cannot bring myself to do an IAR speedy - when we are hammering this newbie to understand our rules, we ought to play be them. ‎Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:33, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

About the Deletion of Theodoros Kasapis Page

Hello, I am new to Wikipedia and had no idea that I could not use the exact text from another source. I should have read the instructions more carefully. I cited the whole thing though and put it in quotation marks. I have changed the text and written it in my own words so please go back and review it because I really need this. Please let me know if there is anything else you want me to change. I am looking forward to hearing from you as soon as possible. matteusvii — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matteusvii (talk • contribs) 21:09, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. You simply changed a few words here and there. That is still a breach of copyright. The text must be entirely your own work. You may quote fact and data and possibly a sentence or two, but the overwhelming part of the text must be your own work. 21:15, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello again, I went back and changed it completely. It is a much shorter version but still it contains the basic information. Could you please check it again and let me know. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matteusvii (talk • contribs) 21:47, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the article is now acceptable. It would be great if you could add more references for verification, as answers.com isn't a completely reliable source. Travelbird (talk) 07:28, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Travelbird, The thing is that the only online information I can find on Kasapis is one more article in Greek. I am going to make it better but unfortunately the only reliable sources on this subject come from books. I also have original photos of Theodoros Kasapis. Could you assist me in uploading these photos. I have a lot of material but unfortunately I can't use it here. That is why I went for the only english source I could find Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matteusvii (talk • contribs) 13:38, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Books are acceptable as sources. Just quote them as you would do in a paper. If you own original photos (i.e. photos that you yourself took or that you bought from someone who took them), you can upload them using the "Toolbox" link on the left hand side of the screen. Click on "Upload file", then on "Click here to Start the Upload Form". Tbe Upload Wizard is pretty self-explanatory, just be sure to enter the correct info everywhere. If you follow the directions, everything should work fine. 13:43, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of George Muhoho

Hello, I have added the references to the George Muhoho page you had marketd for deletion because — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenyabook (talk • contribs) 23:12, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation pages

Hello, Travelbird. When you moved Moche to a new title and then changed the old title into a disambiguation page, you may have overlooked WP:FIXDABLINKS, which says:

A code of honor for creating disambiguation pages is to fix all resulting mis-directed links.

Before moving an article to a qualified name (in order to create a disambiguation page at the base name, to move an existing disambiguation page to that name, or to redirect that name to a disambiguation page), click on What links here to find all of the incoming links. Repair all of those incoming links to use the new article name.

It would be a great help if you would check the other Wikipedia articles that contain links to "Moche" and fix them to take readers to the correct article. Thanks. R'n'B (call me Russ) 00:48, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done (except for talk pages). Travelbird (talk) 08:44, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur Sandes

It is not a copy ( see phrases). You put your template one minute before template under construction. Delete your template please.--Santos30 (talk) 10:44, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Text at source : "commander of the Rifles Battalion in the South American wars of independence, was born in 1793 in Dublin or Kerry and fought at the Battle of Waterloo in Belgium. ...".
Your text: "commander of the Rifle Battalion of British Legions in the Spanish American wars of independence. Sandes born in 1793 in Dublin or Kerry. During Napoleonic wars fought at the Battle of Waterloo. ...".

Sorry - simply changing a word here and there does not mean it's not a copyright infringement. If you are willing to completely re-phrase the article using only your own words, then the copyright infringement tag can be removed. Travelbird (talk) 10:46, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK. This phrase is deleted. Check.--Santos30 (talk) 11:06, 2 December 2012 (UTC) The phrase is not in the text now. If other tell me.--Santos30 (talk) 11:16, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. There is another problem that I try to solve: the portrait is Arthur Sandes (not Antonio Sucre as commons wikipedia say) [1]. Thanks.--Santos30 (talk) 11:41, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A administrator will eventually rename the file. However please note that once again there is problem with the copyright of the file. You stated that the picture is your own work which is not true, you copied it from http://bolivariantimes.blogspot.com.es/p/gallery.html. The image in question is likely in the public domain because its copyright expired, however that means that the copyright status must be adjusted. You can for help on how to upload such images at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions Travelbird (talk) 11:53, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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	hi i am not good in english,end i am new in wiki but i great page Gjoni (Gjonaj) so i try to Redirect page Gjoni–Gjonaj (surname).can you halp me pleaz to redirect Gjoni (Gjonaj) REÇ (talk) 18:08, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. The way to redirect pages is to type #REDIRECT [[Gjoni (Gjonaj)]] , where the text between the square brackets is the page you are directing to. Note that usually a redirect page is only created if the first term is a likely search term, i.e. it is something that people are likely to type into the search box. Examples would be Romans redirecting to Roman or Milano redirecting to Milan. Travelbird (talk) 18:15, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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Seniority in the United States Senate/Sandbox

Can you explain what you are up to? First you nominate the above for speedy deletion (notifying me), then you delete your CSD tag with the edit summary saying you are holding off on the nomination "for now" (without notifying me). The nomination made no sense, and the implication that you may come back again with the nomination makes less. As specifically mentioned in the title, it is a sandbox for the main article. The human beings in the Senate at this moment are not all going to be in the Senate after January 3. Likewise, 12 humans will join the Senate. The changes necessitate a great deal of changes to the code and content of the table (including numbering and who holds what leadership position). I have had this in my user space for years, but it was recently decided that it should really be a subpage of the article, so I moved it. So your deletion nomination was against both logic and consensus at the main article's talk page. An honest mistake is an honest mistake, but what in the world prompted "for now"? -Rrius (talk) 02:11, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I only nominated the article after several hours of waiting for a reply. Since I got none, I assumed that it was a mistaken creation in mainspace. The "for now" was in case that the page never actually got edited and just stayed there for ever. A short note on the talk page of the article would have made things easier for people of new page patrol and averted a deletion tag to begin with. Travelbird (talk) 02:14, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So many things wrong; I'll take them in turn.

You waited "several hours"?—how patient.
If someone creates something pursuant to consensus they need to sit around to wait for someone else to challenge the creation based on no information and no attempt to gather it?
The edit summary should have made it clear it was not a mistaken creation since it clearly specified that it was moving from the userspace to the mainspace.
The fact that the subpage was called "/Sandbox" should have been a tip-off that it was meant as a sandbox for the parent article.
The article talk page, the main article's talk page, did in fact have a note that followed a discussion about moving the material from the userspace to the mainspace.
As someone with autopatroller rights, why should I even have suspected that anyone from new page patrol would be around?
Since when are editors expected to make a point to clue new page patrol in on anything? Or even to have a clue what the patrol is about?
As someone who takes an active interest in procedural minutiae, shouldn't you be familiar with the notion that a comment such as the one you were looking for would be on the parent page's talk page since no one expects anyone to be watching such a page (especially a brand new one)?
Why was your instinct to speedy delete something when you clearly didn't understand what was going on? Did it even occur to you that instead of waiting for hours for a reply from me that you might learn something at the main article's talk page?
Your nomination said the information was "identical" to another page. How did you not notice that a whole lot of what is at that other page wasn't there? Why didn't you trouble yourself to see whether the information was identical?

This sort of slipshod, trigger-happy approach to custodial functions on Wikipedia is becoming frighteningly prevalent. It would be far better to take the few seconds that would have been required to zip to the bottom of the parent page's talk page for an explanation than to plow through an extra page or two from the backlog. In other words, quality over quantity. -Rrius (talk) 08:51, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately your reply is exactly the kind of reaction that puts so many people off new-page patrol in the first place. No-one seems to want spam or vandalism on Wikipedia but everyone gets overly excited if one of their own pages gets tagged.

You created an article in an usual place. Unfortunately with all the vandalism, spamming and self-promotion people of new page patrol do not have the time to do an in-depth research for every new article and the reason for why the editor in question may have created it. That means that some articles inevitably get tagged that end up being legitimate. That is part of the process. The only reason I tagged the page is because it showed up in the new page log. I then left a message on your talk page asking why it was created. You didn't bother to reply. Since the page wasn't being edited by any other user either for several hours after being created, I then tagged the page as an apparent in-error creation.

You write "Since when are editors expected to make a point to clue new page patrol in on anything? Or even to have a clue what the patrol is about?" If you don't care what other people are doing here on Wikipedia, then you can't complain that others behave in the same manner. I would agree with you that you can't be expected to take the time to take into account everyone else's possible actions. But in turn, you need to afford the same right to other editors as well. You can't have it both ways - not consider what others might think but expect others to do exactly that.

I could add further things to your list above, but I don't really want to invest the time in a lengthy discussion which will likely lead nowhere. All I can say is that if you will have to live with the fact that not everyone else here will know what you (or anyone else) is up to at all times and all editors can do is try their best to work towards a better Wikipedia. And along the way there will always be room for improvement but you will have to live with the fact that you do have to work with other editors and make room for their actions along the way. Travelbird (talk) 11:40, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First, if you aren't aware that pages are created as subpages, then perhaps you shouldn't be doing the work. As for your third paragraph, you're not making sense. I created a subpage after discussion and consensus. There is no universe in which it is my responsibility to guess that someone who should know better would fail to take the basic step of looking at the parent page's talk page to see what was going up. You say that you because of all the spamming and vandalism, you don't have time for "in depth" research, but you also say that what I did was unusual. That makes no sense. First, checking the bottom of the parent article's talk page (or even using CTR+F and typing "sandbox") for the note you seem to have expected at the subarticle's talk page isn't "in depth"; it is basic. Second, if my action was so unusual (bizarre that you thinks so), then taking a few extra seconds (we aren't talking minutes here) isn't so much to ask. Your attempt to push this back on me and make it my fault is pathetic. You made a mistake because you either overlooked such a basic source of information as the main article's talk page or were too lazy to bother about it. Either way, you screwed up and apparently have no intention of taking the very basic step to avoid more such mistakes. Disappointing, but not entirely unexpected. -Rrius (talk) 21:43, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikify

Just so you know, Template:Wikify is a deprecated template and so should no longer be used. Please use alternative tags such as Template:Underlinked or Template:Dead end. Thanks. Del_♉sion23 (talk) 02:21, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads-up. 02:22, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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I want to use my user page as an article. so that its need to moved my article. thank you. and please don't delete it without warn me. Woliul (talk) 03:29, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Deletion of Angus Roberts

Hi, you just applied a tag for the speedy deletion of Angus Roberts. Roberts is a professional Australian rugby union player in a professional team (the Melbourne Rebels). The article was created to ensure that all the players in the team had articles of their own (ie to eradicate 'red links' within the squad. I would be grateful if you could please remove the tag and allow other contributors to the Melbourne Rebels page and others within the WP rugby project to improve it. Thanks Comes.amanuensis (talk) 04:40, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that he seems to have no caps as of yet. If an when he does, an article on him could be re-added. Travelbird (talk) 04:41, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I thought that this one would be a controversial enough deletion, which ought to go via AfD if it is to be deleted. Regards, Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 05:09, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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ok then what i need to do now Woliul (talk) 05:32, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You can request that the page be copied back to your userpage, which is where it belongs. Travelbird (talk) 05:45, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks. Nice to see that page reviewing is being appreciated. Travelbird (talk) 12:15, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

AmericaTowne®

The AmericaTowne informaton should not be deleted because the page is factual. AmericaTowne® is a trademark registered with the United States Office of Patents and Trademarks. This is a fact. The article does not promote but simply describe what AmericaTowne® is, what, where, and why it exist. There is no promotion going on simply factual. If there is an objection concerning the link in the article - the link can be removed. However, the link is directly to the USA Patent Office that proves and verifies the content of the article. Strongly suggest the article remain as is in its factual and non promotional state. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blac80 (talk • contribs) 17:15, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not the yellow pages. There are many other sites where that is permitted, so you might want to check out those. We cannot allow you to promote your products here, to be included here they most both be notable and the articles must adhere to a strict neutral point of view rules. Travelbird (talk) 20:38, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nightmare is over

We haven't met yet, but I wanted to let you know that BrasiliaBrasilia, LatinoLatino and ChemTerm were all sockpuppets of Imperium Romanum Sacrum. They were all blocked indefinitely but the sockmaster for a month. You should ask for the elimination of those one-sentence-long articles he created. --Lecen (talk) 11:23, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the message! I was wondering why in the world he was behaving the way he did. Travelbird (talk) 11:59, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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For MRI Network article

Hi, thanks for your note. Just let you know I'm the one who originally wrote the article itself. So the copyright issue DOES NOT MATTER at all. Please let me know anything if you have questions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrinetwork (talk • contribs) 12:41, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it does. If you wrote something for a company that you work for then that work belongs to the company, not yourself. I.e. this is still a copyright infringement. Please also note that you should generally not create articles bout people or organizations that you have a close connection with. See WP:COI. Travelbird (talk) 12:45, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

-First, I didn't say I work for the organization or belong to the company. YOU JUST ASSUMED that I work for them. I'm the one who gathered the article and wrote it by myself. I have no direct connection to the particular company and organization.

Second,this article is about describing the company, not for promotion or anything else. You should carefully read the article to understand that I DID NOT WRITE THIS FOR A COMPANY or for any promotional purposes. Please DO NOT ASSUME ANYTHING BEFORE YOU WRITE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrinetwork (talk • contribs) 12:49, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The text can be found in large parts on an official company website: http://www.mrisarasota.com/refresh/templates/about.php?id=6. So either you work for the company and the above applies, or you don't and copied it from that website. Either way it's a copyright infringement. Sorry - but without very good proof I won't accept your word that the company stole your work and put it on their won website. Travelbird (talk) 12:55, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You included the link of http://www.mrisarasota.com/refresh/templates/about.php?id=6 as your proof that I copied everything from them. However I took my time to read all over their webpage but NO EXACTLY SAME LINES WERE FOUND. I don't see any exactly same line between the website and article I wrote on wikipedia.

If you are saying that little tiny part of "more than 900 offices in over 35 countries" are overlapping, too sorry for you that you couldnt find anything specific to tell me which part I copied off. please DON'T ASSUME THINGS. I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU

Text from the Wikipedia article: "In 1965 MRI Network (Former name; MRI Worldwide) Management Recruiters International, Inc. is founded in response to a growing but largely unmet demand in the business world"

From the website: "MRINetwork was founded in 1965 as Management Recruiters International (MRI), in response to a growing but largely unmet need in the business world"

Please also refrain from personal attacks on other editors ! Travelbird (talk) 13:07, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

your proof of me copying everything from the website :http://www.mrisarasota.com/refresh/templates/about.php?id=6 is that:

Text from the Wikipedia article (which I wrote): "In 1965 MRI Network (Former name; MRI Worldwide) Management Recruiters International, Inc. is founded in response to a growing but largely unmet demand in the business world"

From the website: "MRINetwork was founded in 1965 as Management Recruiters International (MRI), in response to a growing but largely unmet need in the business world"

you are saying that this is the perfect evidence that I copied every article of mine from them to write in wikipedia, I have nothing to respond to you arugment anymore. First you made miserable assumption based on no proof just because I'm writing an article on a company or organization, doesnt mean I work for them nor belong to them. Second, for your proof of me copying everything from the website you included, you do not qualify with any significant nor particular proof to demand that I copied writing from them. Third, I was legally right to tell you that DONT ASSUME ANYTHING to you, however you emotionally took my word and said "Sorry - but without very good proof I won't accept your word that the company stole your work and put it on their won website." which you initiated PERSONALLY ATTACK ON EDITOR.

Please refer to WP:Copyright for the reasons why your article will be deleted. 13:17, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Helicon Books Gyan Reader

Hello, Regarding Helicon Books Gyan Reader There is no copyright violation as I own the copyright. Ori Idan (me) is the CEO of Helicon books — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ori Idan (talk • contribs) 12:32, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

For information on how to donate copyrighted texts, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. However also refer to WP:COI on why you shoudln't be creating articles on products you have a close connection with. Travelbird (talk) 12:36, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

censorship

why did you delete the page? it was not attacking anyone, and had supporting references. like this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by James Shangri-La (talk • contribs) 18:05, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You included a link to a real person without supporting proof that that person was indeed a prostitute. That is not permitted here. Articles alleging negative conduct are subject to a very high level of scrutiny on here. In addition that person must in any case reach a level of notability to be included here. Travelbird (talk) 18:10, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

excuse me, "prostitute" word was not used. why do you make this up? nobody was alleging anything of the kind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by James Shangri-La (talk • contribs) 18:17, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, any negative information on a living person must be extremely well sourced. It did not help that of the two links you provided, neither had the information you purported in your article. Wikipedia is not a place for negative rumors about people. Travelbird (talk) 18:21, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

i see what you say. however you made up "prostitute", you should strike it. there was nothing negative and all the information was from the references. James Shangri-La (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:42, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Visa requirements for Brazilian citizens

Hello,

First of all, I am a bit new to wikipedia Yesterday I made some modifications in the first section of "Visa requirements for Brazilian citizens" I noticed that you changed it back as it was before, with indication of Spam !

What you didn't like in my modifications? and what is the Spam indication for?

Best, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starwiin (talk • contribs) 00:59, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The website in question is a minor private company selling visa services which is actively trying to promote itself on Wikipedia by adding itself as source for visa requirements, hoping that people will click the source link and them visit their website. Unfortunately the information given the the "restriction index" is very often incorrect and contradicts the information given in the well sourced Wikipedia entries. So unless there is a very specific reason to link to the commercial website, links to this (and websites like it) are best avoided. Travelbird (talk) 15:42, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good to know that ! Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starwiin (talk • contribs) 17:17, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Iran VOA

Iranian visa's are also issued to people who do not have applied in advance. This is a common misunderstanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.56.48.18 (talk) 11:34, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That may be that case sometimes (on a case to case basis - although I personally have heard many stories of people being sent back), but officially it is now a requirement to have a code to get the visa on arrival (unless you fall into a couple of very specific categories). And since we can only state official law & policy on here, not greyish on/off practice, we can't list Iran as VOA.

Unfortunately there aren't too many English language sources on the subject, but e.g. it is detailed on the Iranian embassy website in Berlin at http://www.iranembassy.de/de/visa,-unterlagen,-informationen Travelbird (talk) 14:04, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

India

"The territory which was 60 years ago at 8,249 km2 (3,185 sq mi) is now merely at 7,950 km2 (3,070 sq mi)."

That's what a couple Tzunamis and floods make to area, and high tide measurement vs. low tide measurements also has its effect. HonorTheIsland (talk) 10:41, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I understand your comments. But, The Last official area result (based our survey on it) was the 2011 census.
District 52 has an area of 3252 http://www.census2011.co.in/census/district/52-north-and-middle-andaman.html
District 53 has an area of 2980 http://www.census2011.co.in/census/district/53-south-andaman.html
District 54 has an area of 1841 http://www.census2011.co.in/census/district/54-nicobars.html
Total is 8073... very far from 8249 that was 100 years ago... sorry.
The area that the India government used for the 2011 census was the area taken about 1995 and can be found in the publications of : Srivastava, Dayawanti et al. (ed.) (2010). "States and Union Territories: Andaman Islands: Government". India 2010: A Reference Annual (54th ed.). New Delhi, India: Additional Director General, Publications Division, Ministry of Information and Broadcasting (India), Government of India. pp. 1208. ISBN 978-81-230-1617-7.

The problem he is that if you start to do your own surveys/research you may be entering WP:NOR territory.

If I understand this correctly: taking the sources you provided above, you end up at an area of 8073. That is certainly less than 8249 but still not 7950. So where does that number come from? Travelbird (talk) 01:18, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot trace that in the Web, Its Unicef's Shelter Project that checked where are best options to construct shelters for Tsunami victims in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands. Some of the Islands in Nicobar in Wikipedia where already updated with Area info like Trinket Island (see also Nicobar Islands for the old sizes. The smaller and flatter the island was, the Unicef inspectors decided to transfer survivors to bigger islands. Many information on the islands where conducted with sattelite imagery. Sorry, no concurrent web article regarding this... — Preceding unsigned comment added by HonorTheIsland (talk • contribs) 13:43, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is not so much the population data (haven't looked into that yet) - it is the size of the islands which we are discussing. If you do not have a reliable source for the new data then it cannot be added here. The link on Trinket Island is dead, so it's no use as a source.

The issue here isn't really that I don't believe that what you are saying is true, it is the fact hat all data on Wikipedia must be properly sourced. Otherwise you have people adding all kinds of false data to the articles. As long as the official government website uses the old data we cannot just add different data, unless we can find a source to prove the new numbers. Until there is a proper new survey of the islands, all data will likely be in a state of flux anyway.

In February you added a "Table of Islands" to the article with a lot of data. You provided "Census 2011" as a source. However the numbers do not match the census. So where are you getting the data from?? Travelbird (talk) 15:01, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Czech Passport visa requirements.png

Hello, your map for wikipedia is very good. I have some information for you. I am from the Czech Republic. 1) Jamaica is free-visa for us now (green). 2) Comores is visa on arrival (blue). 3) Papua - New Guinea is visa country for us (grey). 4) Nicaragua is as Domonican Republic - tourist card (blue). Thank you Jan Podany — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.181.100.157 (talk) 18:06, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Zara Levina was a very well-known Soviet composer. She was born in Simferopol (then Russian Empire) and lived all her life in Moscow. She was undeniably a Soviet composer (in fact a highly decorated one). There is no point of removing any mention of the word Soviet from the text. --Simulacrum (talk) 16:39, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have no problem with adding that to the text. However if you wander into the Ukraine/Russia Crimea controversy, remove text and add cyrilic letters then that can be taken by some as unhelpful. You are certainly welcome to add info or change a little but try and stay clear of taking POV sides unless there is a very good reason. Travelbird (talk) 16:57, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, Travelbird. Maybe you didn't notice, but on Jimbo Wales's talk page, maybe 72 solve the problem. But, thanks anyway. --Ný(rönn)-Holtredéþch-Deskrúð / Nyholtredehn^Discussion! 23:28, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I am not sure I quite understand what the issue is. Is is with my talk page or with the other page - or is it a general problem with the formatting? When I edit my talk page I seem to have no problems... 10:26, 23 February 2018 (UTC):

The problem is already solved, but I messaged you. The first message is sent to ask you to solve the problem, and the second one is sent to tell you that 72 solved it. --Ný(rönn)-Holtredéþch-Deskrúð / Nyholtredehn^Discussion! 12:30, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Vandalism

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No problem! I hope the IP gets temp-blocked soon.... Travelbird (talk) 04:58, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

in that case

If you don't want angry comments, then convince people with less than stellar reading abiility to NOT make less-than-intelligent reversions.

thank you 116.231.75.71 (talk) 06:08, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Screaming at editors will not help. Please establish WP:Consensus first, especially when making edits that are controversial. Using foul language directed at other editors will simply get you banded and will enable you to make the changes. 06:10, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Bite me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.231.75.71 (talk) 11:39, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Please do not mass-add things to countless articles as you have done, especially if the info does not ad value to inmtroduction etc. Generally, you should always establish conens before mass-editing hundreds of articles. Travelbird (talk) 08:48, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please speak English.

Nobody is mass-adding things to countless articles. "Hundreds of articles." That's a big lie.

You are, as pointed out above, editing improperly.

First, you should always add an edit summary, especially when making a deletion or other possibly controversial edit. See WP:FIES. You have failed to follow this rule. Nor have you apologized for your failure, when pointed out to you.

Second, a "notable residents" or "notable persons" section -- such as what you seem inclined to delete, is perfectly normal and appropriate at the English WP, if the person is notable and was a resident there or worked there. You should not be deleting material because you dislike it.

Third, in a list such as that, the reason a person is notable is appropriate to add. See generally WP:EMBED; the list may well appropriately include descriptive language. If a person is notable for having committed and been executed for war crimes, you should not be whitewashing those facts.

For example here and here

And you confuse dab pages with embedded lists and standalone lists, as here. The description that someone is a war criminal, or was executed for war crimes, tends to be a significant part of their notability. You can't just delete what you don't like.

If you continue down this track, I will be forced to ask an admin for assistance. So far, my efforts to communicate with you in edit summaries and above have not revealed that you are a willing participant in this conversation.2604:2000:E016:A700:808C:6A9F:EC4:AA69 (talk) 08:55, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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