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The359, please view my updates to my talk page at User talk:Onos and provide me your input as you see fit - I want to make sure that I am on the right track with this.
Hi. Hmmm, it seems to be six of one, half a dozen of the other, regarding the naming. On the one hand, you highlighted the Peugeot 908, with its 'trimmed' name, but going off your user page, a couple of other examples supporting using the full name include the BMW V12 LM and the Nissan GTP ZX-Turbo - both of which include in their name an element of their engine design. Regarding the 'simplified' name, then the Panoz LMP-1 Roadster-S is an example of not having a short name.
Whilst I do agree that article names should not be overly long, I also feel it important that where possible, the 'correct' name, as defined by the manufacturer should be used - and being as Audi clearly include 'TDI' in its name, adding those three extra characters to the article title certainly don't make the article name long or excessive, but they do make it more accurate, which should be seen as a good thing. I'll make an effort to fix the redirects, to fix consistency in the relevent R10 articles.
Looking at more sources, it does appear that Bolaños was not named to drive the car in 1972. However it does appear that he did drive in 1975 and 1976 (and even finished 9th in 1975). Thank you for pointing this out or I wouldn't have dug deeper into his Le Mans career (I wrote the article from a WP:AOWR perspective). -Drdisque (talk) 03:03, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
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Schumacher won his ninth race of the season, which equalled Nigel Mansell's record for victories in a season that was set in 1992. As both the Williams cars retired from the race, Benetton were confirmed as Constructors' Champions as Williams could not pass Benetton's points total with only one race remaining.
Jean Alesi, driving for Ferrari, started second beside Schumacher. However, since his car had moved forward before the start, he was forced to serve a 10-second stop and go penalty. Alesi climbed up to second, before retiring on lap 25.
Well I added some more info, as well as I renamed the EE1 to ee1. Although the team was founded almost ten years ago, I couldn't find a full text with the history, but only some small references. I'll see what I can do.. --KaragouniS : Chat 05:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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Article of the month: Forti (current GA candidate)
Forti Corse, commonly known as Forti, was an Italianmotor racing team chiefly known for its brief, and unsuccessful, involvement in Formula One in the mid-1990s. It was established in the 1970s and competed in lower formulae for two decades, with some success. The team graduated to F1 as a constructor and entrant in 1995 and continued into 1996, before succumbing to financial problems mid-season. The team competed in a total of 27 Grands Prix, scoring no points, and is recognised as one of the last truly privateer teams to race in an era when many large car manufacturers were increasing their involvement in the sport.
I note you've deleted my addition to the 2009 F1 season as "uncited". Could I suggest that, instead of simply deleting it, you do one of 2 other alternatives? 1) download the regs from the FIA site and read them. You'll find what I've written is accurate. 2) If you can't be bothered to do that, then just add a request for citation. Deleting this in this way is simply lazy. --Phil Holmes (talk) 21:18, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
In reply to your comment in my talk pages, I was working from the guidelines on citation WP:CITE. It says sources should be cited in the following circumstances:
2.1 When adding material that is challenged or likely to be challenged
2.2 When quoting someone
2.3 When adding material to the biography of a living person
2.4 When checking content added by others
2.5 When uploading an image
The only one of these that could possibly apply is 2.1. However, I judged the material unlikely to be challenged, since it is clearly written in the 2009 regulations. If it were challenged, then a citation could become appropriate. However, Wiki is not a list of sources, it is a source of information and every piece of information does not require a citation.
WP:CRYSTAL does not apply since the note I added are none of "Individual scheduled or expected future events", "Individual items from a predetermined list" or "Articles that present extrapolation, speculation, and "future history"".
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Actually, apparently it passed GA. Nice. Nonetheless, you can use the sourcing I am giving you for a run for FA status or just to improve the article further. Guroadrunner (talk) 20:40, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
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August picture - Felipe Massa at the European GP Friday Practice session.
Mosley is a former barrister and amateur racing driver, and a founder and co-owner of March Engineering, a successful racing car constructor and Formula One racing team. He looked after legal and commercial issues for the company between 1969 and 1977. In the late 1970s, Mosley became the official legal adviser to the Formula One Constructors Association (FOCA), the body which represents the Formula One teams. In this role he drew up the first version of the Concorde Agreement, which settled a dispute between FOCA and the Fédération Internationale du Sport Automobile (FISA), the governing body of Formula One. Mosley was elected president of FISA in 1991 and became president of the FIA, FISA's parent body, in 1993. Mosley has identified his major achievement as FIA President as being the promotion of the European New Car Assessment Programme (Euro NCAP or Encap), a European car safety performance assessment programme. He has also promoted increased safety and the use of green technologies in motor racing. In 2008, Mosley retained his position after stories about his sex life appeared in the British press.
Mosley is the son of Sir Oswald Mosley, former leader of the British Union of Fascists (BUF), and Diana Mitford. He was educated in France, Germany and Britain before going on to attend university at Christ Church, Oxford where he graduated with a degree in physics. In his teens and early twenties Mosley was involved with his father's post-war party, the Union Movement (UM). He has said that the association of his surname with fascism stopped him from developing his interest in politics further, although he briefly worked for the Conservative Party in the early 1980s.
Hey The359, there is a post at the bottom of the Arudou talk page made by a user named "Joseph Green" - I'm thinking about how to answer his statements, but if you want you can address the statements there. WhisperToMe (talk) 01:11, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, he added a reply; Green also said: "Regarding some of the above comments: I don't know who is following Wikipedia's rules more closely, but it seems clear to me that Mr. Arudou conducts himself with much more civility, sense, and good will than his attackers. I will leave it at that." WhisperToMe (talk) 22:55, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
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The 1995 Pacific Grand Prix (formally the II Pacific Grand Prix) was a Formula One motor race held on October 22, 1995 at the TI Circuit, Aida, Japan. It was the 15th race of the 1995 Formula One season. The race, contested over 83 laps, was won by Michael Schumacher for the Benetton team after starting from third position. David Coulthard, who started the Grand Prix from pole position, finished second in a Williams car, with Damon Hill third in the other Williams. Schumacher's win confirmed him as 1995 Drivers' Champion as Hill could not pass Schumacher's points total with only two races remaining.
Hill started the race alongside Coulthard on the front row, amidst pressure from the British media for not being "forceful" enough in battles. Schumacher attempted to drive around the outside of Hill at the first corner, but Hill held Schumacher off as Jean Alesi, driving for Ferrari got past both on the inside line to take second position. As a result, Hill dropped down to third and Schumacher dropped down to fifth behind Gerhard Berger. Schumacher managed to get past Alesi and Hill during the first of three pit stops. This allowed him, on a new set of slick tyres, to close on Coulthard who was on a two-stop strategy. Schumacher opened up a gap of 21 seconds by lapping two seconds faster per lap than Coulthard, so that when his third stop came, he still led the race.
*Hamilton was given a 25 second + to his racing time demoting him to 3rd place gifting Felipe Massa the win 1. McLaren appealed with hard evidence 2. Timo Glock also recieved this penalty for overtaking under the yellow flag dropping him to ninth place out of the points.
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Hamilton started from pole position alongside title rival Massa. Hamilton's McLaren team-mate Heikki Kovalainen started from third next to the 2007 winner Kimi Räikkönen. Following a spin by Hamilton on the second lap, Räikkönen led the race, until rain fell on lap 41 and Hamilton performed the penalised pass. Räikkönen crashed in the following lap as rain started raining heavily. Massa finished second on the road after Hamilton, followed by Nick Heidfeld of BMW Sauber.
Hamilton received a drive-through penalty, which demoted him to third place and advanced Massa and Heidfeld to first and second positions. McLaren appealed the decision at the FIA International Court of Appeal. Their case, however, was judged inadmissible, with the Court ruling that drive-through penalties cannot be challenged. The penalty created a large amount of criticism from the global press, mainly from the United Kingdom and Italy, with several former drivers questioning the decision. Massa's retrospective win, with Hamilton demoted to third, narrowed the gap in the Championship from six points to just two.
Final standings. See 2008 Formula One season for further season summary and formula1.com or ITV-F1.com (and there is more there for the championship) for complete standings and statistics. ^Note 1 : Super Aguri withdrew from the championship on the Wednesday before the Turkish Grand Prix.
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Before the race, Drivers' Championship leader Lewis Hamilton had received heated criticism in the British press for his aggressive driving style at the Japanese Grand Prix three weeks previously. There, Hamilton's late braking at the first corner sent Räikkönen off the road and saw the McLaren driver relegated to the back of the field after a penalty.
Massa started the race alongside Toyota driver Jarno Trulli. Massa's Ferrari team-mate Räikkönen began from third next to Hamilton. Rain fell minutes before the race, delaying the start, and as the track dried Massa established a lead of several seconds. More rain in the closing laps did not prevent Hamilton from finishing the race in fifth position, securing him the points needed to take the Championship.
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Damon Graham Devereux HillOBE (born 17 September 1960) is a retired British racing driver from England. In 1996 Hill won the Formula One World Championship; as the son of the late Graham Hill, he is the only son of a world champion to win the title. His father died in a plane crash when Hill was 15, leaving the family in reduced circumstances and Hill came to professional motorsports at the relatively late age of 23 by racing motorcycles. After some minor success, he moved on to single-seater racing cars, and progressed steadily up the ranks to the International Formula 3000 championship by 1989, where although often competitive he never won a race.
Hill became a test driver for the Formula One title-winning Williams team in 1992. He was unexpectedly promoted to the Williams race team the following year after 1992 champion Nigel Mansell's departure and took the first of his 22 victories at the 1993 Hungarian Grand Prix. During the mid 1990s, Hill was Michael Schumacher's main rival for the Formula One Driver's Championship. The two clashed on and off the track; their collision at the 1994 Australian Grand Prix gave Schumacher his first title by a single point. Hill won the 1996 World Drivers' Championship, but was dropped by Williams for the following season. He went on to drive for the less competitive Arrows and Jordan teams, and in 1998 gave Jordan its first win.
Hill retired from racing after the 1999 season. He has since launched several businesses as well as making appearances playing the guitar with celebrity bands. In 2006, he became president of the British Racing Drivers' Club, succeeding Jackie Stewart.
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