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New less ambigious template

Just want to say, considering you have created the season articles yourself. As I was working on a article related to cars competing in the series, I have created a less ambiguous to type template for you to use if you want to use it when linking articles to IMSA seasons. Chack it out at Template:IMSA.

As for your RLR article you created recently, although I am still looking for the source to that magazine amongst the several hundreds I have at home, there is a bit that might be an interest to your article. Richard Lloyd said in an interview for 911 and Porsche World magazine somewhere back in probably 2002 was that what caused his team to fold was his preference of hiring skilled drivers over hiring ride-buyers (amateurs racers who paid for a drive) which he said he regretted in the interview. Willirennen (talk) 02:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Bethlehem Steel

Do you mean mature like auto racing? Sorry about that. I noticed your comment said 5 pictures on a web page are not useful, i guess that would mean you werent smart enough to click the 'next' button and see the hundred or so other photographs in that essay? I also noticed you said your not an expert on bethlehem steel. That is obvious by your contributions. Do you work for the Sands?

2007 Sandown GT Classic

Was not planning any individual Aus GT races other this this one. The GT folk are are planning the GT Classic as a standout enduro race, similar in its way that Bathurst is to the V8 Supercar series.

That having been said, I was planning to add any international motor race held in Australia, hence the recent addition of the two World Sportscar round that were held in Australia, and the backwards history expansion of the Australian CART/Champ Car round. Rally Australia also beckons, Australian Motorcycle Grand Prix, continuing the Bathurst 1000 back into the 1960's, and the Australian Grand Prix back into the 70's the Formula 5000 era, and at some point no doubt the Tasman Cup series. Plus I have intention to cover several current national series, with the second tier V8Supercar series a definte target for expansion. Thoughts? --Falcadore (talk) 02:47, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

re:International Motor Sports Association

Thanks for the reminder, I just had to add some new bits considering there is a large gap between the foundation of the organization and the sale, also got rid of some of the unsourcable bits. Willirennen (talk) 05:54, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

List of 24 Hours of Le Mans fatal accidents

Considering you were interested a month ago and I wish I could but I'm too time constrained at the moment, I now done the table reformat, all it needs if some summary, just write it at there it says <!-- Insert summary of accident --> above the black line, happy editing. Willirennen (talk) 01:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Nissan R390 Picture

Actually, the Flickr page I got the pictures from state that they are in fact from Jalopnik. Here is the link for one of them: http://flickr.com/photos/jalopnik/1933304112/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by SGJ91 (talk • contribs) 06:16, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I suppose I carelessly uploaded the pictures without much thought given to the copyright. I was under the apparently false assumption that all Flickr images were free to be used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SGJ91 (talk • contribs) 06:19, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

People like you 359 take he virtual world way too seriously. You are obviously trying to make up for a lack of achievement in your real life which you spend too little time. Do you really think any of this is important? Do you really think the work (I use that word lightly)you do here is going to help anyone anywhere ever? Its not! You are a hack and you would be better off taking up bowling or at least something that gets you out of the house... I feel sorry for you old man. You are a sad soul. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.239.189.6 (talk) 15:57, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

It was worth wasting your time.

Re: Bethlehem Steel again

Personally I'm taking less and less interest in this article. I originally added it to my watchlist because I currently live near the compound. I really do not wish for this fiasco to continue to go on (and have less and less desire to routinely visit this article) and I think it would be a terrible, terrible mistake to start neglecting other editors, however uncivil and unresponsive they may be. I am very busy and am not able to dedicate as much time as usual to editing, however when I have more time I do intend to get some books and use them to add information the article. But I think in terms of the article itself User:Urbanarcheology has been acting much more in accordance with Wikipedia policies and now when I go to the page I see a much better formatted article. He has been reported and has been warned (though he keeps blanking his talk page) about the incident with your talk page, but the article is just as much "his" as it is "yours" or "mine" and therefore I feel we would be just as guilty of claiming "ownership" of the page as he had been doing when he wasn't allowing any compromises or agreements. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NcSchu (talk • contribs) 00:34, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

plotting to eliminate me while im away shooting in belize, he he, i'll remember that. you cannot simply eliminate an editor you dont agree with, thats now how it works. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.7.65.154 (talk) 19:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Happy Valentine's Day!

User:Wilhelmina Will has wished you a happy Valentine's day, and good luck in love and friendship!

A short/sweet little message, which I hope has made your day better! Happy Valentine's Day!!! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 03:10, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Copyright and other

I can't thank you enough for posting that. I knew about copyright and all that but didn't know that I was taking the text directly as it was from other sites was wrong. I must also thankyou about this not being a database of all drivers killed, and that there must be a standard for that. I thought about that, and felt bad about it, but I did not know how to nominate articles for deletion. I understand where you are coming from, and I must apologize for any rules I have accidently infringed on in Wikipedia. I do feel bad that I have done what I have done, and I can't change the past, but I will take note of your advice and use it to hopefully be a more careful and understanding wikipedian in the future.

Once again, many thanks James17Australia (talk) 00:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Lancia

Glad to have a look. Contrary to my edit history, I do have an interest in other forms of motorsport! Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 17:10, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I must finish the other peer review (Jack Warner) I'm doing first, though. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 17:11, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

myoutdoortv

updated article after getting ad violation yesterday which I completely understand as that was not the intention. Further reviewed all rules of wikipedia along with many other company websites today to be sure we were providing company information, timelines, partners and products like other companies (Versus, Cabela's, Bass Pro Shop) but within seconds it was up for deletion again. Still learning the process - is the second deletion automated from yesterday and could it be reviewed again or what can I do to meet the requirements as it seems in line with other companies. Any advice would be appreciated... --Ajbaer2 (talk) 19:25, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Maserati Coupé / Spyder

I have moved the Maserati Coupe article back to where it belongs. Maserati Coupe / Spyder is a bad title, and is not helpful for those trying to find the page. I'd also suggest fixing all the redirects that you changed, since this now creates incorrect double redirects to the Coupe article.

If you want to improve the Coupe article, do it on its original page, write an entirely different article on a different page then delete through redirection the original. The359 (talk) 00:03, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Also, all of the photos you uploaded need to be deleted. They are not allowed on Wikipedia because they are not licensed under Creative Commons Share Alike 2.0 (SA-BY-2.0) or Creative Commons Attribution (BY-2.0). The images you uploaded were all under Share Alike Non-Commercial (SA-NC-BY), which we do not allow on Wikipedia. If you want Maserati Coupe images, try [1] or [2]. The359 (talk) 00:08, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I imagine you are correct about the non-commercial Creative Commons. Some of those images (not all as you said) have the non-commercial limitation and so I will have to edit the article to remove those image links. However, I cannot agree with the rest of what you wrote nor what you did. I think the Maserati Coupé / Spyder title is more accurate and will still be immediately reached by anyone through the various redirects. Most people are not going to search for "Maserati Coupé" with the accent, but for "Maserati Coupe" as you typed it so they get there anyway by a redirect. However, the article name is not a major issue with me. What is, though, is that rather than continuing a discussion on it to attempt to achieve consensus, or even moving the new content over under the name you like, you deleted my changes which had taken the article from a substantially incomplete and undocumented state into a completed, significant revision with over 50 unique sources cited for nearly all of its content. Deleting all of that outright does not strike me as a very collaborative approach to improving Wikipedia. Spyderman1 (talk) 02:01, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

On the issue of the article's title, I have reviewed a number of other vehicles that have both a coupe and convertible style and see that the more common naming convention is to use just the coupe only, and so have put my recent changes under the "Maserati Coupé" as a couple of you have suggested. Assuming people don't continue to delete all of the new content I worked hard at including, I may even go back and fix all the links and double re-directs. :) Spyderman1 (talk) 02:01, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

The removal of your text was done for two reasons: First, I was not going to judge which version of the article was better. Since the change was so sweeping, it was better to go back to the default and simply ask you to make your changes to the existing article. Second, you actually created a new article, and then altered the original into a redirect. This was a bad move, as it basically eliminated the entire history of the article. The better move would have been to use the Move button to rename the existing article. This not only would have created automatic redirects, but also would have retained the article's history even under the new title. Your version was also not deleted "outright", since one could easily have gotten it back by looking at the history of "Maserati Coupé / Spyder". It was, quite frankly, no more of a bold move then your initial moving and rewritting of the entire article without discussion as a fix.

As for the naming, the use of /, 'and', or other such terms should not be used in titles unless they are in fact part of the actual name. Unfortunately the Maseratis are rather unique in the automotive world, so the only solution is to pick one of the two names and use it, with the other being a redirect, that doesn't matter to me and both could be argued. Combining the two names just simply does not work, however. The359 (talk) 03:58, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I can agree with you on the article name and my moving of the article - in retrospect it is probably better leaving it under its current name. And I can agree that the "Move" button would have been the right approach. It would have saved me some time if I had noticed it before creating the new article. But what I disagree with is your deleting (undoing) my new material from the article proper because you disagree with my approach to adding it. The article as it existed was significantly dormant and was in good measure plagiarized (I found sections of it appeared to be taken verbatim from existing copyrighted articles without any attribution). In rewriting the article, I substantially maintained the information from the original in a non-plagiarizing state to the extent it was correct and verifiable. My point being, that I did not simply throw out previous contributors' work, but included it to the extent appropriate.

You indicated that my rewriting of the article was as bold as your deleting it; perhaps, but (1) Wikipedia encourages contributors to be bold and (2) my "boldness" was in furtherance of improving the article, while yours seemed to be more of knee-jerk reaction to what I did, rather than being in furtherance of filling out this encyclopedia. You yourself said you didn't make any attempt to consider the changes on their merit, and I would suggest that you shouldn't be undoing significant amounts of other people's work without such consideration. For someone who has spent significant time working on improving an article, it seems callous for someone else to just remove it because they didn't think it should have been moved to a new page. Spyderman1 (talk) 05:24, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

The article was returned to its original state because, as I said, I was not going to decide which version was worth keeping, especially since they were on two different name spaces. I simply reverted to the default as a safety net, with the recommendation that you edit the current article with your information rather than having me attempt to do it. In no way was I saying that either version was better, I was simply going back to the article that existed before this renaming mess occured.

I was not undoing work that was done, since you technically never made that work on the proper article so as it is. I was simply attempting to fix the name problem without touching the article content. However, in order to do that, your article need to be changed into a redirect, and it was simpler to just revert your change to the original article than attempt to copy and paste.

Not that any of this matters, since this turned out exactly as it should have, with you editing the proper article in the manner necessary after the naming and redirect problems had been corrected by myself.

If you want to take it as wreckless, an attack, insulting, or any other thing, not my fault. I was simply attempting to fix the problem that you created, and have now managed to work out the way it should be. The359 (talk) 09:16, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

C'mon, is copying and pasting so difficult that you have to "attempt" it? You couldn't be bothered for a couple extra clicks to help out someone trying to improve wikipedia content?

And I didn't take it as an attack or feel insulted, but it was somewhat offensive given the alternatives available - copying and pasting, or discussion like another user did. Well, I guess I've made my point. No acknowledgement that perhaps you could have handled it in a bit of a more friendly, cooperative manner? Spyderman1 (talk) 05:56, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

224jeff6

You recently did some stuff related to pictures uploaded by 224jeff6. First of all he did own all those cars but he couldn't get any pictures of them, so he got pictres of lookalikes. But you got him so mad that he left Wikipedia. And you don't need to keep sending him messages. He's in the hospital with life threatening injuries so it doesn't matter. I know this because I'm his brother. -- KETCHUP KREW ^SQUIRT! 20:07, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Howmet TX

As I saw the car when I was at the '03 Goodwood Festival of Speed, hence small number decal on your photo, I took an interest to the article I noticed a bit of changes to the Le Man's '68 article as it is on my watchlist. Therefore I have nominated it for DYK.

As this will be my last edit until the end of the month, I hope there won't be much alteration needed for the nomination as it is within goidelines. Also, a bit of trivia for you, if you noticed the rear end, the taillight came from a Mk.1 Ford Cortina and the owner backs this up. Willirennen (talk) 12:37, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Richard Lloyd Racing GA review

Hello, I will be performing the Good Article review for Richard Lloyd Racing. The quick-fail criteria do not apply to this article, so the review will proceed. I will let you know here when I have completed the review, and my comments will be posted on the article's talk page. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan (talk) 04:57, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations! My concerns have been addressed, and I have passed this article. It is well written, and you did a great job responding to my suggestions. If you have any feedback about the review (positive or negative), please feel free to get in touch. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan (talk) 21:48, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

One last thing...I am working on GA reviews to help clear the backlog in the "Sports and recreation" section. If possible, it would be great if you could review an article and encourage people in WikiProject Sports Car Racing and the Formula One WikiProject to help review nominations in the "Sports and recreation" list. GaryColemanFan (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Howmet TX

On 14 March, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Howmet TX, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 01:48, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Cracking article, nice job! Pyrope 02:37, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Alboreto - Sportscars

Hello 359 - Thanks for informing me of his early career in Sportscars. I've had a go at commentating his career in Sportscars during the early 80s but by the sounds of it, you know your sportscars so may I ask you have a look at the new section, please? Cheers. --Phill ^talk Edits _{Review this GA review!} 10:41, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Moreno - 1995 Japanese Grand Prix

Thanks for noticing the clear error in the article. I've replied to your comment at the talkpage. Regards, D.M.N. (talk) 11:12, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Replied back. D.M.N. (talk) 10:50, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Flickr images

Did you see the WP:SCR thread that I started about a large set of photos from my flickr contact/friend from the 2008 12 Hours of Sebring? Isn't Derek Bell a well-known racing announcer? His article doesn't talk about it! Royalbroil 15:01, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Arthur C. Clarke

Here's the (link) source for Arthur C Clarke admitting bisexual experience. I think it's pretty clear. http://playboy.com/magazine/interview_archive/arthur-c-clarke/arthur-c-clarke-4.html Here's the quote: 'PLAYBOY: Have you had bisexual experience yourself? CLARKE: Of course. Who hasn't? Good God! If anyone had ever told me that he hadn't, I'd have told him he was lying. But then, of course, people tend to "forget" their encounters. I don't want to go into detail about my own life, but I just want it to be noted that I have a rather relaxed, sympathetic attitude about it -- and that's something I've not really said out loud before. Let's move on.'

If you read the entire interview the topic of sexuality is discussed in greater depth. Given the context of the article, I think you've been a little harsh on other editors on this issue. Of course I have to agree that nothing should be added unless properly sourced. I think this qualifies.Rodney420 (talk) 18:52, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Want to just make a few more comments and get your input one last time - ....btw after further review in fact mine was just a bad edit, mea culpa. I really should have read the talk page to the Clarke article before doing anything. So, Im not going to edit this article again, but leave that to you and others. That said, I would also like some clarification if you are willing: 1-you said that my edit to the Arthur C Clarke article had no source. If I remember correctly I believe I got my edit to the article from clicking on one of the article's listed sources and reading it entirely. True I did not provide a citation. Are you arguing that I should have provided a citation? When would you say a citation is required, vs. just providing material from a listed source without specifically saying so? 2-you called my edit summary 'original research'. Isn't an edit summary supposed to be written personally by the editor? Wouldn't every edit summary be original research, and who cares anyway, as it is not actually in the article. (My edit summary was bad though, as it was more of a comment belonging on the talk page than a summary.) 3- I did not 'reprimand others about the requirement of using sources'; where did you get that from?? Any reasonable person reading my comment in that regard would see that I was simply agreeing with the individual who said so. 4 - you called my edit 'malicious and unfounded'. ok, unfounded you can make a good argument for, and as I've said, I'm admitting I should have done a better job. But where are you getting 'malicious' from? I find that comment of yours 'malicious and unfounded'. 5- Finally and ending on a lighter note, you said repeatedly on the talk page 'having a bisexual experience does not A) make one bisexual or B) make one gay'. No, I guess not, but I'm quite sure that 100% of bisexuals have had one, and the percentage of heterosexuals who have is pretty dam small. Where there's smoke there's fire. Not, mind you, that this means it should go into the article as an established fact. However, I still believe something should be put in the article, as it has import especially to the LGBT community who do claim him as one of their own. Exactly what to put in, I don't know, but just to leave his famous "merely mildly cheerful" deflection to stand on its own strikes me as disingenuous.

GA Reversal

Thats fine. Better to learn by making a mistake or two IMO, then not learning anything at all by not doing anything. Ill keep it in mind for the future, thanks :) Whammies Were Here 10:07, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Anfield

Thanks for taking the time to review Anfield it's greatly appreciated, anyway I've dealt with your comments. Once again thanks for the review NapHit (talk) 21:37, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi I've added the details about the pitch at Anfield, and some more stuff which I also found, hopefully it's to your liking NapHit (talk) 18:40, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

WPF1 Newsletter

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DYK

On 31 March, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dauer Sportwagen, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Wizardman 13:01, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

2008 Farnborough plane crash

Re your edit summary when removing the Pprune link. That is exactly what I have been doing. I've moved the link to the talk page, and given an explanation there. I can access Pprune elsewhere, but this makes it a quicker way to get direct to the thread. I've given an example of info found on the talk page. Please can the link stay there? Mjroots (talk) 21:40, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

re:Mazda 787B

At the time when I made these edits, all I had was a Tamiya catalogue, Autosport supplements on the 24 hour race and the 1990 yearbook of the race, plus another book which I sourced as much as possible which rarely mad e much mention on the Mazdas, just the odd European stuff that won races. As a result, there wasn't much to write about the other part of the season

The Life after Le Mans section which I added was intended to be about the use of its color schemes in future races and how it became adopted following its win, plus the car's growing popularity which I noticed since following its win. It might be a bit worthy for inclusion but I would be happy to trim it down just to allow it to reflect on how popular the color scheme it became following its win via scale models and videogames.

The bit about the engine and many of the original edit was originated on this edit before I came in, I made some edit without removing which was back 2 years ago, when I was relatively new to editing on this site, I feel that it would be best suited for the article about the engine since the article should be about the car itself.

Also, I agree with the sourcing as that was what i was going to do but feel a bit too time constrained to do it since these was my early attempt at sourcing articles.

I will be happy to go for any revamp as I was going to have a stab at getting this for GA. Willirennen (talk) 00:30, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

My other suggestion is to split the Life after Le Mans section in half. The post season popularity, its popularity in media and with its color scheme should have its section called Popularity. Willirennen (talk) 18:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

F1 newsletter 20080403

The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter Year I - Issue 3 - April 2008
"We will miss him a little bit as a driver, we will miss him a lot in the football matches." Jarno Trulli on Michael Schumacher. [3]
The Current Improvement Drive is Juan Manuel Fangio.
The 2008 Formula One season is underway. With the relaxing atmosphere of the first round at Melbourne (where Lewis Hamilton won with Nick Heidfeld second and a superb Nico Rosberg in third after a very eventful race with only seven drivers finishing) behind us, the focus then shifted to Malaysia. A superior Kimi Räikkönen got back on track with a great win; Robert Kubica and Heikki Kovalainen finished in distant second and third places followed by a tremendous Jarno Trulli and unlucky Lewis Hamilton in fourth and fifth places respectively. Mark Webber, Fernando Alonso, David Coulthard and Jenson Button all showed their teams' strong improvements and performances in seventh, eighth, ninth and tenth respectively. The two Grands Prix have shown all the rivalries we will be seeing during the season and how dependent the results are on the removal of traction control and engine braking. Bahrain is here and I bet everyone out there is hoping for a very good and close-finishing race there. Chubbennaitor and -- Diniz (talk) 00:41, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
News New members -- Tompw (talk · contribs) (March 2, 2008) PYLrulz (talk · contribs) (March 25, 2008) SheffieldSteel (talk · contribs) (March 27, 2008) Xtreme racer (talk · contribs) (March 30, 2008) Sage Callahan (talk · contribs) (April 1, 2008) Barkjon (talk · contribs) (April 2, 2008) New Recipents -- Oahiyeel (talk · contribs) (March 18, 2008) The359 (talk · contribs) (March 30, 2008) Barkjon (talk · contribs) (April 2, 2008) The 1995 Japanese Grand Prix article has been listed as a Good Article. Image:Heidfeld and Rosberg - 2008 Melb GP.jpg has been promoted to Featured Picture status. Image:Lewis hamilton - 2008 Melb GP.jpg is a current Featured Picture candidate. Please leave comments here. Image:Kimi Raikkonen 2008 Australia.jpg is a current Featured Picture Candidate. Please leave comments here. You can leave your comments on the Newsletter on either LB22's Newsletter Desk or Chubbennaitor's Newsletter Desk. We now have an IRC channel. Only two of the editors will be able to see the queries. The Newsletter is now being handed out by BCBot.	Editor's Comment We need a few users to help me with this newsletter. If you are interested, please leave me a message on my talk page (and the other contributors) or sign up on the "Contributors" list of the central newsletter page and we will tell you everything you need to know and answer your questions. Current contributors - LB22 (talk · contribs) Diniz (talk · contribs) Chubbennaitor (talk · contribs) Other areas where you can help - Keep up some of the great facts in the "Did You Know" section of the Formula One portal! Remember, yours may be put in next Wednesday! Help out with the articles in Category:Formula One stubs. Read the to-do list in Portal:Formula One and help to complete the tasks. Selected Image -
Recent Formula One news Raikkonen:I'm not going to dominate '08 Ecclstone :Mosley stay away from Bahrain Coulthard pays tribute to old mentor David Leslie Extra seats for British GP FIA quiet about Max Mosely FI confident for Q2 McLaren to the end of the pits FIA confirm quali rule change Ex-FIA president passes away Honda not in with the points for Bahrain Sepang: Night race main priority Qatar wants to be a stop for the F1 circus Schumacher to help with McLaren spy gate money Toro Rosso is put on the market
Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points 1st Lewis Hamilton McLaren 14 2nd Kimi Räikkönen Scuderia Ferrari 11 3rd Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 11 Constructors' Championship Constructor Points McLaren 24 BMW Sauber 19 Scuderia Ferrari 11 Standings after the 2008 Malaysian Grand Prix. See 2008 Formula One season for further season summary and formula1.com or ITV-F1.com (and there is more there for the championship) for complete standings and statistics.
Last race Driver Racing Time Fastest Last Qualifying Time Kimi Räikkönen 1h31m18.555s 1m36.230s Robert Kubica +19.57s 1m36.727s Heikki Kovalainen +38.45s 1m36.613s Last Race Grid Line up Driver Time Felipe Massa 1m35.748s Kimi Räikkönen 1m36.23s Jarno Trulli 1m36.711s* Malaysian GP results Malaysian Grand Prix 2nd test results Malaysian Grand Prix 1st test results *Jarno Trulli was promoted 2 places after Lewis Hamilton and Heikki Kovalainen were demoted 5 places for impeding in qualifying

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Thanks!

Thanks captain obvious. Huggle was messing up, and kept applying the tag. I had to manually remove it from some other pages. But anyways, good eye Orwell. --InvisibleDiplomat₆^6₆ 21:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Each time I go to the discussion page I have a new message from you. Just leave it alone, unless you're an admin. Which I'm not seeing. Let the admin deal with it. If you see, another user actually suggested this was a good idea on my talk page. I'm sure with all your reverts to my talk page, you certainly saw the post. --InvisibleDiplomat₆^6₆ 21:23, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikiquette Alert

I have filed a Wikiquette Alert on Twaz at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts#User:Twaz. —  scetoaux (T|C) 21:57, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Maserati MC12

Yikes! I had forgotten about the MC12. It is horribly out of date isn't it. It's at the top of my to-do list now but feel free to update the article, I have a very variable amount of time available for Wikipedia so it may be a while before it's done. Thanks for the heads up. James086^Talk | Email 11:32, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I've given it a bit of an update but could you please read over it to make sure it is infact accurate. I have been known to misread the results tables. Also with the 5th and 7th what was actually meant was that they placed 5th and 7th in that race (2006 FIA GT Budapest 500km) I added a bit to clarify as I can see how easily confusion can arise. Thanks, James086^Talk | Email 12:35, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I definitely agree and have swapped the images over. Nice find! James086^Talk | Email 09:21, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Nominate for F1POM & F1DOM

YOU can nominate for the F1 picture of the month here and F1 driver of the month here. Chubbennaitor 18:07, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Colin McCool

Hi and thanks for your patience with the review of the above article. I have done as much as I can reasonably do at this stage and await your verdict. Thanks for taking the time to review the article; regardless of the result, the article has been much improved due to your input. Cheers, Mattinbgn\^talk 13:59, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the review and also for tidying the link on the Testimonial, which is indeed a kind of lesser benefit year. I'd been looking for that Somerset Year Book and just found it... Johnlp (talk) 20:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi, citations for the lead have now been added. Thanks again. Cheers, Mattinbgn\^talk 21:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

2008 American Le Mans Series at Long Beach - Flickr images

Hi The359. I've just found this set of photos from the race article you created recently. I see you have a commons account, so I thought you might like to know.-- Diniz(talk) 16:38, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Ford GT

How do you substantiate your claim that the "...little image..." that I've added to the Ford GT page, "...doesn't exactly belong there."?

I have many photos that I've created and would like to add to articles that are lacking. If I'm going to run into opinions like this, I want to know where they come from.

Hempdiddy (talk) 19:06, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Would you like to post your reply here so everyone else can benefit from your questionable substantiation?

Hempdiddy (talk) 21:44, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

you are too funny 359 hahaUrbanarcheology (talk) 22:17, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

More MC12

I'm studying like mad for a series of assessments my lecturers sprung on me so I won't be very active for about 2 weeks. I'll definitely add some info once I'm free again. Thanks, James086^Talk | Email 00:32, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

WPF1

The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter Year I - Issue 4 - May 2008
"We're watching Ralf Schumacher... son, of course of double world champion Michael Schumacher..... er, the brother of Michael Schumacher.…." Murray Walker
The Current Improvement Drive is Juan Manuel Fangio.
Honda made significant changes to the RA108. The first flyaway stages of the 2008 season have come to a close with Bahrain, where Felipe Massa, Rubens Barrichello, Jarno Trulli and Giancarlo Fisichella drove storming races to 1st, 11th, 6th and 12th respectively. Robert Kubica also looked impressive (especially during qualifying), and looks for BMW Sauber to be in championship contention. The unfortunate Lewis Hamilton finished in 13th, losing the championship lead to Kimi Räikkönen. Jenson Button (who retired) had a race to forget after a qualifying session to remember. Then most of the cars got updated and the teams tested their first 2009-spec cars in tests at the Circuit de Catalunya. In a probable look into the future of Formula One design, Renault used RBR's idea of a 'shark fin' on the airbox and the teams looking into the 2009 regulations, including the planned introduction of slick tyres. Honda tried a 'dumbo wing' on the car's nosecone and every other team tried to improve. Super Aguri lost their deal with the Magma Group after the planned buyout last month fell through, but did make it to the Spanish GP; SA's future is in the air again and still looking poor. The Spanish GP got underway with the hope that the adaptions will give new teams chances to win or get in the points. Fernando Alonso starred in qualifying by setting a provisional pole position time just before Kimi Räikkönen took it away by 0.091s. Toyota have made a jump from their slot at 11th-12th on the grid to clear points positions. McLaren didn't have a nice time with fifth and sixth places, in addition to David Coulthard who could only manage 17th after having a bad last lap. The Circuit de Catalunya saw Kimi Räikkönen take the glory with Felipe Massa and Lewis Hamilton finishing in second and third places respectively. Jenson Button, Fernando Alonso and Giancarlo Fisichella all drove one of their most best races, with Kazuki Nakajima also showing that he and WilliamsF1 are worth their stay in Formula One. Heikki Kovalainen had a nasty crash, causing a prolonged Safety Car period. He was rushed to hospital for checks; thankfully he was announced to have no serious injuries. Toro Rosso had a race to forget after both their cars were crashed out by other drivers. At the start of the season the FIA threatened the cancellation of the Spanish and European GPs if racism continued in Spain after after hearing of the racial abuse directed at McLaren's Lewis Hamilton while he was testing the MP4-23 at Barcelona during Winter testing. However, this was considered 'stupid' and has not happened due to the Spanish GP is completed and the European GP sold out.' Chubbennaitor, Sage J Callahan, Diniz(talk),  Barkjon , Motofan
News New members -- Deltasquared (talk · contribs) (April 11, 2008) Clyde1998 (talk · contribs) (April 13, 2008) Colinsuper7 (talk · contribs) (April 18, 2008) Motofan (talk · contribs) (April 23, 2008) Notime2cry (talk · contribs) (April 25, 2008) New recipents -- Sage Callahan (talk · contribs) (April 10, 2008) Clyde1998 (talk · contribs) (April 13, 2008) Aldango (talk · contribs) (April 22, 2008) Motofan (talk · contribs) (April 24, 2008) New editors -- Barkjon (talk · contribs) (April 2, 2008) Sage Callahan (talk · contribs) (April 13, 2008) Motofan (talk · contribs) (April 30, 2008) YOU can nominate and vote for the F1 picture of the month here and F1 driver of the month here. If you want to redesign the Newsletter then please leave a comment and what you want to happen here	Editor's Comment We need a few users to help me with this newsletter. If you are interested, please leave a message on an existing editor's talkpage or sign up on the "Contributors" list of the central newsletter page, and we will tell you everything you need to know and answer your questions. Current contributors - LB22 (talk · contribs) (retired) Diniz (talk · contribs) Chubbennaitor (talk · contribs) Barkjon (talk · contribs) Sage Callahan (talk · contribs) Motofan (talk · contribs) Other areas where you can help - Keep up some of the great facts in the "Did You Know" section of the Formula One portal! Remember, yours may be put in next Wednesday! Help out with the articles in Category:Formula One stubs. Read the to-do list in Portal:Formula One and help to complete the tasks. Leave any queries at the Newsletter Desk Selected Image - April's Monthly F1 picture Jack Brabham leads a group of cars during the first lap of the 1963 Dutch Grand Prix.
Formula One news from the Month Fry pours cold water on SA deal BMW pushing to the edge for Turkey Kovy making big recovery and hopes for Turkey Honda are sure of strong car in Istanbul Rubens proud to beat Patrese's record Jaime Alguersuari will have first F1 test for RBR Mallya backs Sutil's recovery SA closing re-rescue deal BMW Sauber thinking about using Ferrari 'nose hole' nose cone Williams thinking over engine cover Mosley inocence declared in Paris Webber pushes for Barcelona track Heidfeld: SC rules stupid Oz ready for GP Track change Sato had the race of his life (2008) Button shocked over first points from '08 Drivers worried over tyre warmer ban Sato proud of SA's courage Schu's in the money... and the screens Silverstone looking at a secure future Negotiations still ongoing over SA 'EveryRace' anti-racist campaign underway Renault unsure on new car Brawn enthusiastic on Honda recovery Mosley: I have backing of FIA majority SA depending on Honda Magma group pulls out of SA deal RBR style 'shark fin' for Renault Lewis' wing broken before incident STR3 gets first run
Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points 1st Kimi Räikkönen Scuderia Ferrari 29 2nd Lewis Hamilton BMW Sauber 20 3rd Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 19 4th Felipe Massa Scuderia Ferrari 18 5th Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 16 6th Heikki Kovalainen McLaren 14 7th Jarno Trulli Toyota F1 9 8th Mark Webber Red Bull 8 9th Nico Rosberg WilliamsF1 7 10th Fernando Alonso Renault F1 6 11th Kazuki Nakajima WilliamsF1 5 12th Jenson Button Honda F1 3 13th Sébastien Bourdais Toro Rosso 2 Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Points 1st Scuderia Ferrari 47 2nd BMW Sauber 35 3rd McLaren 34 4th WilliamsF1 12 5th Toyota F1 9 6th Red Bull 8 7th Renault F1 6 8th Honda F1 3 9th Toro Rosso 2 10th Force India 0 11th Super Aguri 0 Standings after the 2008 Spanish Grand Prix. See 2008 Formula One season for further season summary and formula1.com or ITV-F1.com (and there is more there for the championship) for complete standings and statistics. Bahrain Grand Prix Driver Constructor Qualifying Time 1st Felipe Massa Scuderia Ferrari 1m33.123s 2nd Kimi Räikkönen Scuderia Ferrari 1m33.418s 3rd Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1m33.096s 4th Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1m33.737s 5th Heikki Kovalainen McLaren 1m33.488s 6th Jarno Trulli Toyota F1 1m33.994s 7th Mark Webber Red Bull 1m32.371s 8th Nico Rosberg WilliamsF1 1m34.015s 9th Timo Glock Toyota F1 1m32.528s 10th Fernando Alonso Renault F1 1m35.115s Bahrain Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1m33.096s Felipe Massa Scuderia Ferrari 1m33.123s Row two Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1m33.292s Kimi Räikkönen Scuderia Ferrari 1m33.418s Row three Heikki Kovalainen McLaren 1m33.488s Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1m33.737s Row four Jarno Trulli Toyota F1 1m33.994s Nico Rosberg WilliamsF1 1m34.015s Row five Jenson Button Honda Racing F1 1m35.057s Fernando Alonso Renault F1 1m35.115s Massa answers critics with win Kubica hits tremendous pole Friday Practice 2: Hamilton Crashes whilst Ferrari's don't budge off 1-2 Friday Practice 1- Ferrari's lead while Williams star Spanish Grand Prix Driver Constructor Qualifying Time 1st Kimi Räikkönen Scuderia Ferrari 1m21.813s 2nd Felipe Massa Scuderia Ferrari 1m22.058s 3rd Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1m22.096s 4th Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1m22.065s 5th Mark Webber Red Bull 1m22.429s 6th Jenson Button Honda F1 1m21.211s 7th Kazuki Nakajima WilliamsF1 1m21.117s 8th Jarno Trulli Toyota F1 1m22.529s 9th Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1m22.542s 10th Timo Glock Toyota F1 1m21.230s Spanish Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Kimi Räikkönen Scuderia Ferrari 1m21.813s Fernando Alonso Renault F1 1m21.904s Row two Felipe Massa Scuderia Ferrari 1m22.058s Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1m22.065s Row three Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1m22.096s Heikki Kovalainen McLaren 1m22.231s Row four Mark Webber Red Bull Racing 1m22.429s Jarno Trulli Toyota F1 1m22.529s Row five Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1m22.542s Nelsinho Piquet Renault F1 1m22.699s Raikkonen cruises to an unchallenged victory Raikkonen beats amazing Alonso to pole Heidfeld at the top for Saturday morning Ferrari just pip Renault off top Ferrari top in Friday Practice Driver of the Month Ayrton Senna Ayrton Senna at Imola 1989. Ayrton Senna at the 1991 United States Grand Prix. Ayrton Senna (da Silva) is most known for his push to win, much the same as Gilles Villeneuve. Senna is a three time Formula One Champion, winning in 1988, 1990, and 1991. Many people have compared Senna to Juan Manuel Fangio, who is known as "The Master" of Formula One. Senna is a Brazilian, and raced for Toleman, Lotus, McLaren, and Williams. Statistically, he is among the greatest ever, with 41 wins and 65 pole positions. His then-record of 65 pole positions was broken by Michael Schumacher in the 2006 San Marino Grand Prix. His rivalry with Alain Prost is among the most legendary in Formula One, going as far as Senna colliding with Prost in the first turn of Suzuka in 1990, giving Senna the title. Tragically, Senna died during the 1994 San Marino Grand Prix when his Williams left the track at high speed, hitting the concrete retaining wall at around 135 mph. No driver since has been killed while driving a Formula One car. His skill in wet weather and bad conditions has made him stand out among other drivers. Where most people would choose to drive conservatively, to avoid causing a crash, Senna would still push his hardest. Following the death of Senna (and Roland Ratzenberger), many safety improvements have been made. What could possibly be better than his on-the-track skills was what he did off the track. His character and attitude has made him a legend among F1 fans. Nominated by Sage Callahan

BetacommandBot (talk) 13:45, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiCookie

Just stopping by with wikicookies for those editors who started new articles today. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:13, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Tori Amos pioneer sources

I have created a section on Talk:Tori Amos for listing sources for her being a pioneer and etc. Convergence Dude (talk) 22:26, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Le Mans Template

Thanks for popping in over at my talk page The359. While I'm not that new with Wikipedia, I am pretty inexperienced. The reasoning behind by leaving in a lot of the things I did on the original template was for thoroughness and I was basing it off of the Indianapolis 500's Template. I left some things as broken links in the hope that someone would grow the series of articles around Le Mans.Ultimatum (talk) 23:53, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Le Mans Pole-sitters and Fastest Laps

I'm thinking of starting the arduous process of starting these two articles and was wondering if you have any good web sources other than that's already available on Wikipedia for this. The Wikipedia articles for each Le Mans year have the pole-sitting car and fastest lap car, but not the drivers that set them and this was something I was hoping that somewhere on the web would have. Racing Sports Cars is the best site I could think for it but it once again doesn't have the pole-sitting driver. Maybe I'll start the articles without the drivers and hope that someone else adds it later? What's your thoughts on this? Ultimatum (talk) 00:11, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

F1POM and F1DOM

You can vote for the Formula One Picture of the Month/Driver of the Month at User talk:Chubbennaitor/F1POM and User talk:Sage Callahan/F1DOM. We really need your votes as the last picture and driver was decided. Chubbennaitor 07:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 19 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Embassy Racing, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 12:58, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Howmet TX

That's fine, I wasn't going to review the article until a couple of days, but that's fine. But, when you return, please leave me a message and I'll get the review on its way. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:03, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I totally forgot you came back from vacation. Oops. If its cool with you, I'll review the article this week. Again, sorry about that. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:50, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Its no problem, by this week, the article will have its GA review. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

The article has its review. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

VIR pics

Would you provide me links to the pics? I don't know who drives what model. Royalbroil 12:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

He changed the permission on the pics. Do you know how to upload them to Commons? I'd prefer you to do it so that the get a more meaningful name (if you don't mind). Dallara, Coyote, and Proto-Auto Lola. Let me know if you want me to do them. You don't need a flickr ID to upload them. Royalbroil 01:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)