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Hello! I hope you're doing well, first of all could I ask why you merged The Essential Mariah Carey article to her 2nd compliation album Greatest Hits (Mariah Carey album)? I want to keep The Essential Mariah Carey as independent article. Camilasdandelions (talk) 10:13, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi! Thanks for reaching out. As mentioned in the article, TEMC is simply a re-release of Greatest Hits, particularly for the initial international edition, as it shares the same tracklist as Greatest Hits. The US edition tweaks this a little with a slightly different tracklist, but is still considered a re-release of Greatest Hits. TenthAvenueFreezeOut (talk) 10:28, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Omg, I have never seen the re-released of compliation album! that's interesting :)
- then how her compilations albums will be count? i mean, The Rarities, is called as 'eighth' compilations album but if TEMC is re-released of GH, then TEMC will probably be expelled from her complitaion album counting.. also I'm curious about her fourth compilation album 'Playlist: The Very Best Of Mariah Carey' and her seventh compilation, 'Japan Best'. Thanks for kind reply! Camilasdandelions (talk) 10:36, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- You can find the full list of compilation albums at Mariah Carey albums discography#Compilation albums. Yes, the list does include Playlist and Japan Best, and does not include TEMC. TenthAvenueFreezeOut (talk) 10:46, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- As I checked, this table includes TEMC... should I delete this? Camilasdandelions (talk) 10:54, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Oops, not sure how I missed that, I’ll delete it for you. Will also fix the albums count in The Rarities. Thank you for pointing it out! TenthAvenueFreezeOut (talk) 15:15, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- You welcome! I additionally fixed 8 -> 7 in her discography article. By the way, is it possible to call some bum as "nth" without reliable sources? I have suffered with this problem, like Deeper Well, it is said fifth by Kacey official account but actually it's sixth due to previous 5 albums. So I'm curious if there's a criteria of album counting on wikipedia! Camilasdandelions (talk) 15:51, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I assume the issue stems from Kacey's Christmas album? Like Mariah discography, the Christmas albums are also counted as studio albums, so Deeper Well is her sixth. Not sure why, but that’s the rule on the Wikipedia. TenthAvenueFreezeOut (talk) 18:35, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree. I think her carol album got expelled too. By the way, is that rule specified in Wikipedia documents? I want to see them, or is that rule like tacit rule? Camilasdandelions (talk) 01:28, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I think unspecified rule? Because it has been applied for every artist with Christmas albums in their discography. (e.g. Kelly Clarkson) TenthAvenueFreezeOut (talk) 10:27, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah! I agree with that also I think Latin albums (e.g. Mi Reflejo) should be regarded as studio album. But I saw some people regard christmas and latin album or like Glitter (soundtrack), can't be studio albums. I'm not sure how can I persuade them, I even used 'standard of studio album' (includes 8+ songs and over 30 mins) but they didn't agree because that standard isn't as fixed as a rule. Can I ask your opinion about this? Camilasdandelions (talk) 12:52, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Soundtrack albums, such as Harlequin (Lady Gaga album) (see: Talk:Harlequin (Lady Gaga album)#Studio album or soundtrack album?) and The Bodyguard (soundtrack), are not considered as the artist's studio album, unless specified otherwise. In the case of Glitter (soundtrack), it was also promoted as Mariah's eighth studio album (and was expected to commercially perform like one too, leading to her dismissal from her record label after it underperformed).
- As for the "standard of studio album", it is based on what it was promoted as by the record label, and not its duration. For example, The Album (Blackpink album) would typically be considered an EP as it is only 24 minutes long, but the record label promoted it as a studio album. Conversely, The Fame Monster is long enough to be a studio album at 34 minutes long, but the record label promoted it as an EP / expanded edition of The Fame.
- Hope my explanation has helped a little. TenthAvenueFreezeOut (talk) 07:46, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you so much! Your explanation helped me a lot, I hope you have a great day! :) Camilasdandelions (talk) 11:56, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- You too! :) TenthAvenueFreezeOut (talk) 13:17, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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