User talk:Sundar/ArchiveE

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This bot just deleted an edit made shortly before it saved the page: presumably it caches the page for several minutes and didn't notice the edit conflict. Diff: [1].

This is very bad. Please stop the bot and fix this bug before continuing. PaddyLeahy 09:04, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It also seems to be changing the order of the interwikis, placing French, German, and Japanese at the bottom rather than having them in the correct order. violet/riga (t) 09:43, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Sundar. PaddyLeahy 09:55, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sundar, thanks for your gracious response - I will review the articles you recommended and correspond again in the near future.

Eddiehu 03:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC) [reply]

IW

Please do the needful for the Madras Treeshrew ! Shyamal 08:31, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ! It is a worthy article for the Tamil wikipedia, one of the rare genus names derived from Tamil. So was hoping you could translate and add an interwiki for it. Sorry for being vague. Shyamal 10:13, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hosur

Clear vandalsim in the page and ad for a local temple or guru, but I cannot delete it. Please look into it. Thanks Taprobanus 20:08, 22 August 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Assessment

Sundar, I noticed that you've assessed the Sources of ancient Tamil history article as a GA. But, I thought GA or FA status was only given through a nomination and review process. And that individual assessments are used to grade articles as either Stub, Start, B or A class. Please correct me if my understanding isn't right. Thanks. Lotlil 14:00, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have a related question which I have placed here. You may want to respond to that -- ¿Amar៛^Talk to me/My edits17:16, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How are you doing?

hello friend! How are you? Nice to see you active in Wikipedia in this month of August. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:55, 24 August 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Economy of ancient Tamil country

Sundar, I wanted to nominate this article for GA. Do you think it's ready? Lotlil 01:21, 25 August 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Chennai FAR

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Urgent:India page

Hi, In February 2007, we had an RfC on the Talk:India page (see here), and it was felt by a majority of the people commenting that stability of the article is important. Yesterday, out of the blue, Blnguyen, who has no history of editing on the India page, made a post on the page, that set all this off. Could you take a look at this section of the Talk:India page? In particular, User:Sarvagnya, for example, has returned to his scheme for de-constructing the India page. (By way of background: Nichalp, who usually watched over the article is busy this summer; Ragib, who was subbing for Nichalp is busy too. Blnguyen seems to think that the page is in bad shape and is about to be de-FA'd. He feels that it needs many more citations (and their lack) is reason enough for it to fail an FAR. Nichalp, when he was active, discouraged over-crowding the text with too many citations (especially when the text was composed in the summary-style, as India is). I think Blnguyen has some valid points: the page needs more (and certainly better) citations and the prose (especially of some new sections that were created by other people) needs revamping, but I think you might be in a good position to assess Blnguyen's idea of expanding the article to twice its size.) Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:42, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PS I made this post, because I remember your wise comments about the overcrowding of India page with pictures, in Nov/Dec 2006. Now Blnguyen, seems to be suggesting that we again open the flood gates for such attempts. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:44, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments! Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:55, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology of Gaudā / Gowdā

Searching all words with "gu-, ku-, go-, ko-" among the same set you indicated, I found some interesting results :

Proto-Dravidian : *guḍ- , kur_- (*kuḍ-)

Meaning : small

cf. Hindi &c : Guḍia/Guḍḍa/Guḍḍi, etc .

(meaning=doll); these Dravida roots are not related to Gauḍā / Gowḍā ], but perhaps to modern Hindi forms which may be of Dravidian origin.

All following Dravidian and Sanskrita words may be related :

Proto-Dravidian : *konḍ_-

Meaning : hill (raised, uplifted ?)

Proto-Dravidian : *gōḍ-

Meaning : wall

These forms *konḍ_- and *gōḍ- are in conformity with the Gangai+IAST|kōnḍā}} title assumed by Rājendra Chola ("conqueror of Ganges").

Sanskrit: guḍ- "to guard, preserve" (Monier-Williams)

Gauḍa / Gowḍa seems to be related to the Sanskrit root gur ("to raise, uplift ...",cf. MW), from which words like Gaurava, Guru,etc were formed. Gauḍa brahmins are formed in almost all parts of the country and ancients texts report that Panch-Dravida brahmins had originally migrated from the north. I am presently wikifying / creating articles on individyual branches of brahmins, and I am searching for reliable sources of information on Dravida brahmins. Thanks for your interest in these neglected fields of Indology &c. Many modern north Indian languages have Dravidian words, and the reverse is also true. -Vinay Jha ^Talk 18:57, 29 August 2007 (UTC) [reply]

I see no way how guḍ and gur may be related (but, as always, feel free to cite soruces). --dab (𒁳) 10:27, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ta at Betawiki

Hi Sundar. You have done some translation work on the MediaWiki messages at Betawiki[2]. I was wondering if you were still going to work on them and if we should maybe commit the currently changed messages to Subversion so they will be used everywhere. Please let us know at Process/tasks at Betawiki. Cheers! Siebrand 14:59, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

Hi Sundar. Thanks for the barnstar. It's my first. I really appreciate it. I enjoyed working on Persian women's movement. Finetooth 22:21, 4 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Hi there

wrt sikh/tamil ethnic relation; i was specifically referring the legislative grouping of sikhs as racial group and the infomation conveyed by the BBC programme 'The story of India'; in which the DNA evidence suggests close ethnic relationship with Dravidians and North Indian Jats. I agree though that it is rather tenuous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Msp4realmf (talk • contribs) 12:16, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Multi ethnic"

I'd noticed the change when it was made. It reflects one (rather recent) POV, but I didn't have the energy to get drawn into a debate and I was hoping someone else would deal with it. Tamils aren't "multi ethnic" in the sense one usually uses the term. However, talking about "ethnicity" in the context of India is problematic, because of the various meanings the group can have. Are the descendents of Telugu or Sinhala or Arab migrants who adopted the Tamil language and ways "ethnically" Tamil? It depends on the definition of "ethnicity" one chooses to adopt. The secondary literature usually refers to Tamils as an "ethnic group" on the basis of common cultural and linguistic traits and the assertion of a Tamil identity, but if you adopt ancestry or origin as your basis you'll get to a different conclusion. My inclination is to simply change it to "people", which is the wording the Britannica uses. What do you think? -- Arvind 10:26, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're Invited!

Hello! I thought you may be interested in joining WikiProject Dravidian civilizations. We work on creating, expanding and making general changes to Dravidian related articles. If you would be interested in joining feel free to visit the Participants Page! Thank You.

I noticed your message on the Tamil people talk page regarding someone's edit that Sikhs are ethnically related to Tamils. I added on the talk page that Sikhism is a faith and not an ethnicity here. Also, it is impressive that you know three Dravidian languages and Hindi as well. Anyways, you are most welcome to our group. Regards. Wiki Raja 08:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Welcome!

Hi, and welcome to the WikiProject Dravidian civilizations! As you may have guessed, we're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Dravidian related topics.

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There are a variety of interesting things to do within the project; you're free to participate however much—or little—you like:

• Interested in working on a more complete article? The peer review department of the project would welcome your help!
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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to any experienced member of the project, and we'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome! We look forward to seeing you around!

Wiki Raja 22:11, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tamil Nadu

-Marcus 19:41, 11 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Tamil Nadu Major Cities

• I agree with your recent edit of Template:Tamil Nadu as long as you add a new section Major Towns to include those major places you deleted.-Marcus 17:08, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Maybe best way to go with this is to make list/table from Table - 5: Population - Class Categories (Census 2001 Provisional) of all Tamil Nadu towns and cities (See their Note: For further computation please save the page(s) in the hard-disk of your computer and open the same in Star Office or Open Office or MS Excel.) in the format of {|class="sortable wikitable" and put that in main article Tamil_Nadu#Demographics. Then arbitrarily select those above, say 500,000, as major cities and use GOI criteria: Class I: 1,00,000 & above persons as other cities and Class II: 50,000 to 99,999 persons as major towns, for inclusion on Template:Tamil Nadu. Class III : 20,000 to 49,999 persons other towns would take too much space there.

What do their urban status terms C.T., T.P., MC1, N.A.C., M.B., etc. mean?

Personally, I concentrate on Protected areas of Tamil Nadu and this urban stuff is a distraction.-Marcus 12:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Civility

Sundar, thank you for your comments on Talk:Tolkāppiyam, which I really appreciate very much, but it's not worth making an issue of. Leave it be. And thanks again for your support. -- Arvind 17:01, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I know, that's not how things should be. This is not really a new issue, though, and I'm not sure it's going to change. Well, let's see how to best deal with it. -- Arvind 13:33, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Assistance

We have a long-term difficult situation at this location: Alice Bailey talk Alice Bailey Please consider brining your expertise to it. Thanks. James 01:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Bird etc

The bird is a female Oriental Magpie Robin and the Tamil transcription is here அணத்தான் Shyamal 06:27, 17 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Sangattamil

Hi Sundar. Over the next couple of weeks, I plan to start putting together a brief article about Sangattamizh, giving an overview of the language (grammar, morphology, etc.). Do you have any views on what we should call it in the article (in the title as well as in the body)? Possibilities include Sangattamil (or some variant thereof), Classical Tamil, and Old Tamil. The latter two are used more or less equally in the academic literature, while the former is the traditional Tamil name. I'm not sure which to use, and I'd appreciate your opinion. -- Arvind 14:06, 27 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Blackmails and threats for edits

Sundar Please see this threat by one wikiuser: [[3]] Is this the way Wiki operates. I thought I should report this to Wiki admin. I have tried to edit and then when reverted gave extensive arguments to support my edits. What does one do in this case? perichandra1 19:54, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

WP:RFBOT

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WP:RFBOT

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