User talk:Sotakarhu


A barnstar for you!

The Minor barnstar
Wow! Thank you so much for fixing the Dec 9, 1948 flight in Spaceflight before 1951!

Neopeius (talk) 13:58, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As promised. Welcome to the team, and thank you for continuing the clean-up efforts! 1951 and 1952 should be in pretty good shape. 1953 and 1954 are fair. I haven't touched 1955-1965.

If you're more interested in clean-up than creation, you might want to leave 1955 -> alone for the time being.

On the other hand, if you do like writing, they would be ripe for expansion. Let me know, and we can coordinate.
Neopeius (talk) 13:03, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Good deeds get rewarded

The Featured List Medal
For your work on the Timeline of spaceflight!

Neopeius (talk) 17:43, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Spaceflight Colors

Rockets
V-2 (UK) Rocket metallic #8a7f8d
V-2 (US) Cool gray #9090c0
Bumper Gray-green #5e716a
Viking Blue - 50% #0000ff
Vanguard 75% #8080ff
Vanguard (X-248) 85% #b3b3ff
Aerobee RTV-N-8 American Blue - 50% #5b59a6
Aerobee RTV-N-10 30% #363663
Aerobee RTV-N-10b/c 50% #5b59a6
Aerobee RTV-N-10a 70% #9c9cc9
Aerobee Hi (NRL) 85% #cecde4
Aerobee XASR-SC-1 US Army Green - 30% #646e2b
Aerobee XASR-SC-2 50% #a7b847
Aerobee RTV-A-1 SkyBlue - 50% #25a7da
Aerobee RTV-A-1b/c 70% #7ccae9
Aerobee RTV-A-1a 40% #1e85ae
Aerobee Hi (USAF) 50% #25a7da
Aerobee AJ10-27/34 70% #7ccae9
Aerobee (Unknown) 85% #bee5f4
Deacon Rockoon (SUI) Sky blue (Crayola) #80daeb
Deacon Rockoon (NRL) Robin egg blue - 40% #00cccc
Loki Rockoon 60% #33ffff
Deacon-Loki Rockoon 85% #b3ffff
Farside 85% #b3ffff
Nike-Nike-T40-T55 DeepSkyBlue - 50% #00bfff
Nike-Deacon 70% #66d9ff
Nike-Nike-Tri-Deacon-T40 85% #b3ecff
Nike-Cajun 30% #007399
Terrapin 40% #0099cc
Nike-Asp (not great) #1c98b0
Nike-Apache 40% #0099cc
Arcon 50% #00bfff
Nike-Nike-Cajun 70% #66d9ff
Terrier-ASROC-Cajun 85% #b3ecff
Nike-Nike-Recruit 50% #00bfff
Kisha-Judi 50% #00bfff
Nike-Yardbird 70% #66d9ff
Hugo 85% #b3ecff
Ute-Apache 50% #00bfff
Paiute-Apache 70% #66d9ff
X-17 Blue Green - 50% #828b74
Polaris FTV-5 65% #a8ae9e
Polaris FTV-3 80% #cdd1c7
HJ-Nike Honest John Red - 30% #971e02
HJ-Nike-Nike (Boa) 50% #f93004
Exos 40% #c92703
Jason / Trailblazer-1 60% #fc5a36
HJ-Nike-Nike-20"SM 65% #fc6f4f
Javelin 70% #fd8468
Strongarm 85% #fec1b4
Jupiter-C / Juno I / SPARTA US Army Green - 40% #859339
SM-78 Jupiter 30% #646e2b
Juno II 50% #a7b847
Redstone-Mercury (MRLV) 60% #b8c66c
ASCAMP #ffffff
Terrier-Asp #ffffff
Terrier-Asp-IV #ffffff
SM-75 Thor SteelBlue - 30% #2b506e
Thor Able / Agena-A 50% #4785b8
Thor Able-1/2 60% #6c9dc6
SM-75A Thor 40% #396a93
Thor Able-2 (mod) 70% #91b6d4
Thor Able-3 80% #b6cee2
SM-75C Thor 80% #b6cee2
Thor Able-4 90% #dae7f1
XSM-65A Atlas Atlas Gray - 30% #3f4d5a
XSM-65B Atlas 40% #556677
XSM-65C Atlas 50% #6a8095
SM-65D Atlas 60% #8899aa
V-2 (Soviet) Puce #cc8899
R-1 Brown - 30% #7a1f1f
R-1A/V 50% #cb3434
R-1B 70% #e08585
A-1 50% #cb3434
R-1D/E 70% #e08585
R-1UK 85% #efc2c2
R-2E Dark Orange - 30% #994700
R-2 50% #ff7700
R-2A 70% #ffad66
R-5 Soviet Yellow - 20% #665000
R-5M 30% #997800
R-5RD/A 40% #cca000
R-5R/V 50% #ffc800
R-5B 70% #ffde66
R-5 VAO 85% #ffeeb3
R-7 R-7 Green - 41% #8e9a39
Sputnik (8K71PS/8A91) / R-7A 50% #acba45
Vostok-L #ffffff
R-12 Yellow Brown - 30% #996600
Veronique-NA Bleu de France - 55% #318ce7
Veronique-AGI Bleu de France - 55% #318ce7
Veronique-61 #ffffff
Vesta #ffffff
Veronique-61M #ffffff
Long Tom Austr. Wattle - 45% #e8af00
Skylark (Raven 1/2C) British Khaki - 40% #7d6b4f
Skylark (Raven 2) 30% #5e513b
Skylark (Raven 5C) 50% #9d8662
Skylark (Raven 5) 60% #b09e82
Skylark (Raven 7C) 70% #c4b7a1
Skylark (Raven 7) 80% #d8cfc0
Countries
 United States (old) Blue #0000ff
 United States American Blue #484785
 United States US Army Green #4b5320
 United States Sky Blue #87ceeb
 Soviet Union Brown brown
 France (old) Amethyst #9966CC
 France French Blue #318CE7
 Australia Austr. Wattle #e8af00
 United Kingdom (unused) Tan 30-80 tan
 United Kingdom British Khaki #beaf97
 China red #ff0000
 Japan white #ffffff
 India darkorange (old) #ff8c00
 India India Orange #ff9933
 Europe navy (old) #000080
 Europe ESA blue #0e2180
 Iran darkgreen (old) #006400
 Iran Iran green #239F40
 Israel teal #008080
 North Korea crimson (old) #dc143c
 North Korea pink #ffc0cb
 Canada #fe6f5e (old) #fe6f5e
 Canada OrangeRed #ff4500
 Netherlands #91a3b0 #91a3b0
 Turkey #7c3030 #7c3030
 Ukraine Yellow (old) #ffff00
 Ukraine Ukraine Yellow #ffd700
 South Korea Purple #800080
 Brazil Green (old) #008000
 Brazil Brazil Green #009c3b
 Germany Dust grey #7c7f7e


I love the way you've arranged this table. Why don't you pick some colors (I think my scheme was pretty clear) and I can see what you come up with. :) --Neopeius (talk) 02:02, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
(some variety of light blue for the Air Force, dark blue for the Navy, green for the Army, red for the Russkies -- I probably should have picked a distinctive national color for Veronique but "Bleu de France" was just too cute to pass up! I tend to like purples for the UK, but you can set any precedent you like. It's also probably okay to reuse colors once a rocket is retired. There are only so many distinctive ones.
You know the Aerobee 'A's are Air Force, not Army, right? ;) --Sotakarhu (talk) 21:11, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Where the test will really come is when you make the next graph. I tried to pick colors that were thematically similar but differentiable. I'm a bit color blind so colors look different to me. What may be easily distinguished for you may not be for me (and vice versa). I'll let you know. :) Hope that helps! --Neopeius (talk) 12:47, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I like your color schemes a lot. My only concern thus far is that Polynesian and Persian Blue look identical to me. That's only an issue if you have those same colors on the same graph, though. --Neopeius (talk) 18:01, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
They are identical. ('Polynesian' and 'Persian' were your original colors, this is a different one, I just haven't updated the table text) The rockets don't overlap in the same year. What do you think about the darker American Blue to represent the United States, especially in the pie chart in 1955? I could lighten it a shade, to say #484785, which might look better. Too much more and it starts to look purple.
From a modified 2020 for more context:
China: 39Europe: 5India: 2Iran: 2Israel: 1Japan: 4North Korea: 2Russia: 17Ukraine: 2USA: 44
Lighter American Blue:
China: 39Europe: 5India: 2Iran: 2Israel: 1Japan: 4North Korea: 2Russia: 17Ukraine: 2USA: 44
And rearranged in a non-alphabetical order roughly associated with space program seniority, and a few other adjusted colors:
USA: 44Russia: 17China: 39Japan: 4Europe: 5India: 2Iran: 2Israel: 1North Korea: 2Ukraine: 2

Back in the saddle

Hello, Michael!

At long last, I'm finally getting some time to devote to WP again. My plan is to do the article for 1956 in Spaceflight, then 1957 in Spaceflight, then Sputnik 2 and any Vanguard launches that need upgrading to B status. Then it's on to 1958 in Spaceflight and all the orbital launches that year. If you haven't done the table for 1958, this would be a great time. :)

Thank you for your patience. I've been busy writing a book, which I just finished today... --Neopeius (talk) 20:31, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see you're still adding stuff to the articles! Thank you for your diligence and Happy Thanksgiving. :) I'm about a third through the 1956 draft, and I took a detour to finish R-2 (missile). --Neopeius (talk) 14:55, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, been busy the last year, but I have a few min here and there now Sotakarhu (talk) 01:37, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm finally doing substantive improvements. My plan is to submit 1952 in spaceflight for FA because I want to get you The Featured List Medal (awarded for contributing to three FL!—you've earned it). I am also working on 1956 in spaceflight, at long last, but I'm taking a quick detour through Sputnik 2, which I've substantially improved and plan to get to B this weekend, and GA soon. Thanks for your patience, and hope you're doing well!--Neopeius (talk) 21:44, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome, thank you Sotakarhu (talk) 23:19, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]