User talk:Smsarmad/Archives/2014/January

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Simple English Wikipedia

Hello Smsarmad, you have request to check me on Simple English Wikipedia. Can you please tell what is the reason for it (or what is your aim?)?. I think that you also supposing me Yasir72.multan. Recently, another user leave a measage on my talk page. He was saying that "Are you Yasir72.multan".
I do not know about who is Yasir72.multan (it is a name issue) . Moreover, you can watch my contributions. Do not forget to tell me your reason of checking request and tge story of Yasir72.multan. Reply must. Thanks - Yasir Mushtaq Talk 08:38, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

"Recently, another user leave a measage on my talk page. He was saying that "Are you Yasir72.multan"." Can you please point me where someone asked it? -- SMS ^Talk 20:10, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Waar

Salam, I'm here to inform that Waar film nomination for good article has been started and Wikipedia is to decide within one week, if you can expand this article further then please help me do that, do check film talk page for further info. Thanks! UBStalk 13:42, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Wasalam Umais. I am a little busy in real life, so might not be able to dedicate much time to article expansion for a week. Right now I am keeping myself limited to watching my watchlist. -- SMS ^Talk 18:36, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Indian subcontinent

I believe the lead doesn't summarize the article at all. Can you help the article by making it more appropriate? Aditya^(talk • contribs) 04:25, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

You are right, the lead needs to be expanded as well as the article. I will surely try to expand it as soon as I get some time, probably in a week. -- SMS ^Talk 18:36, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello,

I appreciate your concern,that was not my intension but I didn't know that how it works. SO, if I cause any misunderstand, I would like to apologias for it.

Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ali.imran.wiki (talk • contribs) 10:26, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year

	Stay Blessed
	May this year bring a lot of happiness to your life, remember me in your prayers. Happy Editing! :) UBStalk 11:49, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Umais and Happy New Year to you also. Sorry I was late. -- SMS ^Talk 09:47, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Pakistan Idol - GA Nominee

Recently I submitted Pakistan Idol for good article nominee. Needed some errors to be fixed, hope you'll have a look at talk page and help me out. Thanks! UBStalk 04:44, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your guidelines. I have added my own scripture and put it in a minor edit with a referenced source. Thanks for your advice.

Kind regards

Faizan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfaizanurrab (talk • contribs) 02:38, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Promises of Wikipedians

This message has also been taged on RHaworth and Launchballer's talk page

Hello RHaworth, its Yasir72.multan. I want to do a serious talk. If we ignore my created account and you unblock Yasir72.multan then I promise you that I will :

1. Never Creat any other acvount

2. Stop irritating Administrators

3. Stop irritating Pages of Administrator's talk pages

4. Never do Personal attacks

5. Never creat articles or archives of Festivals in pakistan or other any article

It is a good deal. Please unblock Yasir72.multan (or give an expiry date of my account blocking) so I can act apon my promises. You will see no any mistake again about me. I Promise, but unblock me. Try to give me one chance. I am waiting for your reply. Please dont forget to reply me. Thanks dear. - 119.160.119.48 (talk) 12:42, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

I have replied on my talk page - please place further replies here.--Launchballer 13:22, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Kashmir conflict

Regarding this edit, do you not think we ought to mention why India has not held a referendum? Darkness Shines (talk) 17:03, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Isn't it already mentioned in the very next line or I am missing a certain aspect of it? -- SMS ^Talk 17:17, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Ok so that was a bad revert in the first place, as the same was said earlier in the same para followed by what I see as the India's official point of view for not holding the referendum. But I still would like to know if something is missing. -- SMS ^Talk 17:20, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

{ec}No idea , not been keeping much of an eye on the article of late. Will do a read over of the lot in a few days. Darkness Shines (talk) 17:21, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For your hard work over the years, especially in Pakistan-related articles. Green Giant (talk) 22:55, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Green Giant. :) -- SMS ^Talk 15:51, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Karachi report

At the 3RR noticeboard, can you indicate which recent editors you believe to be socks? You state that A. was warring with them. I am glad that you warned Asifiqbal80 but have you figured out what the dispute is actually about? Now that semiprotection has been applied by another admin, the situation should improve but I still can't figure out what to do about Asifiqbal80. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 03:03, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Bahawalpur/Saraiki

Saraiki is a language not a dialect.Majority People of Bahawalpur speak the language i need your support to remain my edition — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ameerhamzaabbasi (talk • contribs) 15:57, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

I have already commented on the article talk. Please read it. -- SMS ^Talk 16:01, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Help!

One of my created article is nominated for deletion, can you have a look please and make a comment in discussion? Thanks! UBStalk 09:57, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Need Help in WP:PBUH

Hi bro,

I need your help removing terrorism section from WP:PBUH.

I removed it citing reason why it should be removed but CambridgeBayWeather put it back in.

If you can please go to that page and remove that section by reverting the change done by CambridgeBayWeather.

It will establish a consensus that more than one person think that it should be removed.

I also tried to talk it out with CambridgeBayWeather on his talk page and you can see my post there as well.

Help me brother. Sajjad Altaf (talk) 01:47, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Sajjad. The page you are referring to is a styling guideline for Islam related articles and the section titled terrorism is very much needed as much as I think as Words that should be watched while editing these articles. So the only thing that I think needs to be done is to make it more generic. -- SMS ^Talk 02:37, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Cannot thank you enough, you made my day. Sajjad Altaf (talk) 06:34, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Hey

I didn't link it, so it doesen't count. Yoshi24517 (talk) 17:41, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Whether you link it or not it is spamming. Also given the background of the whitelisting request I might consider requesting an administrative action against you if you add it again. -- SMS ^Talk 19:21, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Appreciate your contributions Rana Muhammad Waqas 14:59, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Waqas. -- SMS ^Talk 02:01, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Content removal from Yahya Khan (→‎The US role)

Hello, I'm Alex rosenberg35. I noticed that you recently removed some content without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry: I restored the removed content. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! --Alex Rosenberg (talk) 22:30, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

"removed some content without explaining why" User:Alex_rosenberg35 Are you sure about that? Did you read the edit summary of my edit? -- SMS ^Talk 01:59, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, I should have revised the above message, which comes from {{uw-delete1}}. I did see your reference to WP:COATRACK; however, WP:COATRACK does not justify such immediate action in this case. In accordance with WP:BDP, the paragraph does not necessitate immediate deletion, as Yahya Khan is not a living person. Rather than removing the paragraph in it's entirety, it would be more appropriate to allow it to be rewritten per NPOV FAQ 1.1.2, as some of it could be salvaged. If you believe the section is subject to fact picking, then please help balance it out with facts and trim off unsourced claims, but refrain from removing verifiable claims. Specifically, while the given claims regarding Sheikh Mujib's role in the Bangladesh famine of 1974 may be questionable, the famine itself is verifiable, relevant, and notable. Notable claims do not make for a coatrack article, per WP:WINAC. Also, notable allegations or incidents belong in the article, even if they are negative. --Alex Rosenberg (talk) 22:50, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

@User:Alex rosenberg35 I know this is a template message and that is why you should read WP:DTR. And thank you for a detailed explanation as it is now much clear that you have no understanding of COATRACK. BLP does not ask not remove content of a biography article if there is a problem other than that mentioned in BLP. And your NPOV FAQ 1.1.2 argument would have been valid if I had pointed out some POV issue but I didn't. Coatrack is about the some content not focusing on the subject of the article and this was the reason for the removal of that text. As what Mujib did after Bangladesh got independence has nothing to do with a former military ruler of the parent country. So in short I still have have to see a valid argument for the inclusion of that text. -- SMS ^Talk 04:35, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

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Your Clevery

Hello, its Yasir72.multan
Hhhmmmmm...... Now I understood that why you was deleting my article (about festivals) many times. The following points are showing your clevery to stole my article :

1. First of all you showed enemity with my article

2. Then, you stole it

3. You creat "Mar4d" named account. (I felt doubt when I saw "Mar4d" name on your user page's barnstars section).

4. Then you creat User:Mar4d/2013 and User:Mar4d/2014 on Simple English Wikipedia. (These are same as my articles)

5. You have also request for its semi-protection.

I am asking you that

1. Why you did not show enimity for Mar4d's articles (because these are created by you?) ?

2. Why did you request it for protection? (it was an article created by a banned user)

3. Why had you request for checking me? (what do you want?) Watch [[1]]

Dont forget that you are an auto-comfirmed user only in this wikipedia (not in any global wiki). You can block me and delete my article only in this wikipedia. But you cannot do these things in global wiki.

Moreover, dont worry, Mar4d's pages has been deleted. I told administrators about its stole. I told them how the images and templates has been removed after its stoling.

The administrators Semi-Protect my pages (These administrators are 10000x better then you).

Dont forget to reply and dont remove the message until you do not reply me. Waiting for your reply.
Thanks - 119.160.118.119 (talk) 15:42, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Forget Standard Offer now. -- SMS ^Talk 03:22, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Message No.1

My Dear Smsarmad, Now I not need any Standard offer and I also not want to work on this english wikipedia. You were have notice in my carrier that I always tried to save my article only. Hence now my article (about festivals) has been saved and protected in Simple English Wikipedia. Therefore, I not need to work on this wiki now.
You can talk with the administrators. I am not irritating them like I Irritated you. I just request for Semi-Protection of my page (and they done it).

Message No.2

Moreover, You had done a mistake about stoling my article. You was going against my articles but you creat them on SE Wikipedia and also request it for Semi-Protection.You have not yet answer me "Why?"
Launchballer and RHaworth did not yet informed about it. But dont worry my country fellow, I will not tell them any thing. This issue is between us and now it has been finished. So it has no any advantage to discuss it any more. But I only need the answer of "Why?".

Message No.3

Otherwise, Thanks for deleting my pages and blocking my accounts on this wiki. I learnt many things and increase my Wiki-Knowladge in my 5 months carrier.
My all credit goes to you Smsarmad. A man learns when he mistakes. My mistakes learnt me many things

I learnt the following things:

1. How to edit a page?

2. How to talk a user or admin?

3. What is the meaning of User blocking?

4. What is Sockpuppetry?

5. How to creat an article?

6. How to creat another account (even I block) ?

7. How to request any thing to the administrators?

8. How to upload a file?

Before 5 months, I have not know any thing about wikipedia

Give me 3 replies or comments of my these 3 message respectively.
Thanks. - I wish that it should be my last discussion on this wiki. - 119.160.118.131 (talk) 10:37, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Ahhhhh...... You have no any answer Of my message No.2. I think you got "un-answered" first time in your 9 years carrier.
Ok, ignore this question, (because this issue has been finished). Now, Give me answers or comments of my message no.1 and 3. 119.160.119.63 (talk) 11:04, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Well you want answer? File a sockpuppet investigation case against me for using more than one accounts in a manner not permitted by the Sock puppetry policy, instead of making unfounded accusations. -- SMS ^Talk 15:28, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

O,Ohhh.... I think you mind it. I am sorry for that. But it a very grateful for you that you accepted your mistake.
I forgave you and you forgive me.
Allah likes those who forgive others
In my carrier, I did many sockpuppetry, personal attacks and irritating. But never stole any article. I just create my own article and want to save it.
Now we will forgive each other and promise to never irritate each other. I am going now lefting many memories. Good bye Smsarmad, I will remember you. Thanks 119.160.119.42 (talk) 16:48, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Muntazir764

Thanks to you for your help on the artical Abdul Khaliq (athlete). I wanted some more help on the aritical.Abdul Khaliq (athlete) i am his grand son. i am new user on wikipedia.I have written all the information from books written by english writers.My Questions are.

1. How can i give refrence of the books.
2. how can i give external link of facebook page.
3. how can i move the medal table in the right side of the artical.
4. Who is the authur of the artical
5. When i search on google for Abdul Khaliq athelte then the links appears. on the right side of page a picture and some information also appears but the picture which appears is not of him (Abdul Khaliq (athlete)). Its abdul khaliq hazzara's picture. how can i make it correct. If you can do it. Please do it.

. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muntazir764 (talk • contribs) 05:08, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Kohat

Dear Smsarmad,
I did it in a good faith.
Thanks anyway, best wishes and regards.
Aftab Banoori 05:20, 17 January 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aftabbanoori (talk • contribs)

Removal of Travel & Culture Link

Dear SM Sarmad,

Salam

Hope you are having good time in the new year, I had tried to add our company link which is the one of the very few tourism companies in Pakistan, I added its link in "Pakistan tourism page" which was deleted by you I am sure in the very good spirit of wikipedia. Kindly chck our web site http://www.travel-culture.com and if apropriate kindly undo your removal of the link

I will look forward to a positive response.

regards

Jamal — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.44.57.62 (talk) 16:11, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Wasalam. The external link you added is not considered suitable here at Wikipedia. Please read WP:ELNO and WP:SPAM for a better explanation. -- SMS ^Talk 05:01, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

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link at Orya Maqbool Jan

Hello SMS, I guess you have not visited the link before removing it. The person is a columnist and in external link area i have given the link which contains the largest collection of his columns regularly updated. you can check and verify. Hope you will undo your removal,

regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chiesnick (talk • contribs) 18:56, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I did. Kindly read the External links and Spam guidelines for further details as to how the link you were adding is not appropriate. -- SMS ^Talk 19:06, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

The 1947 NWFP referendum

You reverted my wording on the 1947 NWFP referendum in the article on Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. I have started a discussion on the talk page Talk:Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa#The_1947_referendum. Please respond there about what POV you think my wording inserted. I really was just looking to add clarity. Ajobin (talk) 20:14, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Please respond on the talk page about what you think would be a most salient, most neutral, least inflammatory wording to represent the fact that nearly half of all people boycotted the election. Do you agree that a chart would be better than words? Ajobin (talk) 06:21, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Ishtiaq Ali

Hi Smsarmad, In regards to User_talk:Scottywong#Ishtiaq_Ali: I know you are a good editor and I would trust your judgement -- however, especially because you are looked up to, you must not only do the right thing, but also appear to be doing the right thing. There are others with less experiece who watch what you and try to copy it, so using the correct tags for deletions is of utmost importance. I am saying this as someone who had a lot of their own creations to Wikipedia nominated for wp:CSD hastily and injustly (in my opion, of course :-). XOttawahitech (talk) 21:43, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Ottawahitech and Scottywong for patiently listening to me and also helping me to improve my understanding of CSD#A7. And I completely agree with your view as I now understand and realize the issue you point to and also the negative effect on new contributors who see the big red banner on their first or one of the first article, after I realize how little I know about CSD. -- SMS ^Talk 19:20, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

2014 Mastung bus bombing

Hi, just joined your project and prior to it have created the above article related to a terrorist attack on Iranian-Pakistani border. Since its my first article in the field of terrorism can you check its neutrality, notability and possible name change. Many thanks and salam aleikum.--Mishae (talk) 02:41, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Wasalam and Welcome to WikiProject Pakistan. I hope you will have good time here and will contribute further to the articles in the Pakistan topic area. As of now the only concern I see is that the article needs to be copy edited as currently it more looks like a news report. So I will try to copy edit it or ask someone else if I don't get time. Happy editing -- SMS ^Talk 20:43, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Dera Ghazi Khan (Poverty by District)

Hey bro,

Why do you think that source entered by me is not reliable? Looks pretty reliable to me. Sajjad Altaf (talk) 21:59, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Self published blogs are mostly never considered a reliable source. I have added the original source it was pointing to. -- SMS ^Talk 22:28, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

So it was just a matter of adding original source which was actually part of the article which I was referring.

The reason for that was that people can see both the article and original source.

Also, I never thought that this was a self-published blog by Haroon Jamal :) Sajjad Altaf (talk) 02:39, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes kind of that and also lack of thorough review of the link you added on my part. Had I done it earlier I would not have reverted, so sorry for that. -- SMS ^Talk 03:11, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Gomal University

and who ever u are .. u have the wrong history abdul qadeer khan was neva a part of this institution. plzz i will make edits in it.. cozz i m the part of this university for over 2o years. so plzz so making any more edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr.Muhammad yar khan (talk • contribs) 10:33, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

@Dr.Muhammad yar khan First of all Welcome to Wikipedia. I never claimed anything nor added that content you are mentioning about Abdul Qadeer Khan. Neither were my edits related to that. I only removed content that was promotional (and also unsourced). This article is not a promotional platform for the subject but an encyclopedia article that should be written neutrally with content cited to reliable source(s) or for which possibly such a source can be found.

Here at Wikipedia, being related to the subject of an article in any way does not give an editor any right/authority to edit the article without other editors scrutinizing these edits. In fact you have to be extra cautious in case you are related to the subject. Also repeatedly adding such content is considered disruptive and can result in a block. -- SMS ^Talk 11:44, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

thats is so wrong. y are u even trying to undo my edit. i dunt no wat is the problem with my edits?? tell me.. i am hea. i can provide u with facts. so plz dunt get into an edit war with me.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr.Muhammad yar khan (talk • contribs) 12:08, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

thats is so wrong. y are u even trying to undo my edit. i dunt no wat is the problem with my edits?? tell me.. i am hea. i can provide u with facts. so plz dunt get into an edit war with me.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr.Muhammad yar khan (talk • contribs) 12:54, 29 January 2014 (UTC) well Mr. who ever u are.. actualyy this whole page needs editing.. i can provide or be the source my self.. correct ur sources.. coz amaanullah akhtar(the junior most professor) is no more the VC of this university..May God bless him..and perhaps u wont know it. and this information i was adding was valid and perhaps where are u from??? and who has given u this rite to make the page of Gomal university ??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr.Muhammad yar khan (talk • contribs) 13:04, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Please read what I have written above. -- SMS ^Talk 13:14, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

You are a Pakistani Nationalist!!!! wikipedia is a site that is made for non-political editers

All you edits are in favor of Pakistan nationalism and south asian nationalism i am gonna to report you if you show more such things like this!!! Feysalafghan (talk) 20:57, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

@Feysalafghan: You are most welcome. -- SMS ^Talk 21:02, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

• And of course you are a completely neutral, unbiased editor, eh Feysalafghan? There is an old saying which applies to this situation; "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". I find it mildly surprising that you accuse Smsarmad of bias, when this talkpage alone demonstrates the lengths this editor goes to in order to stick to guidelines and policies. Green Giant (talk) 00:48, 30 January 2014 (UTC)