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The two images you have do look like the same species and looks like the same one as that posted here. I am afraid identification to species is not possible for me but from a check here it seems like it cannot be in the genus Kosciuscola but it is possible that you might have hit the right subfamily (Oxyinae). The best bet would be to try posting here and hope that someone there is familiar with Indonesian species of Acrididae. Shyamal (talk) 08:45, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the Facebook link; have joined. Jee gave me a link to an Indian group, but I sometimes get worried that some Indonesian species are too different from Indian ones for the people in that group to help. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:55, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Actually, quick look through the category brings up File:Caryanda spuria.jpg, which is from the right island and has similar coloration. The black stripe says "not the right species" to me, but possibly the correct genus. Will wait 'til I get approved in that group though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:00, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Good find. That seems to be very very likely correct but always safe to leave it at the genus at least if you are dealing with images and if the genus has more than one species in that area! Shyamal (talk) 09:06, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Wikimedians Speak
An initiative to bring the voices of Indian Wikimedians to the world
Hi Shyamal,
I am writing as Community Communications Consultant at CIS-A2K. I would like to interview you.
It will be a great pleasure to interview you and to capture your experiences of being a wikipedian.
You can reach me at rahim@cis-india.org or call me on +91-7795949838 if you would like to coordinate this offline.
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Resource Exchange: Wikipedia Library Research Coordinator?
Hi there! I see you're quite active at WP:RX, which we recently grouped under the broader Wikipedia Library project to help editors access sources and do better research. I'm looking for a few coordinators to take the lead on some research-related initiatives, including keeping things tidy at WP:RX and possibly at a new research desk, or with curating research guides. Would you be interested? It's a volunteer position and we could talk about what kind of projects and time would work for you. Hope to hear from you soon. Cheers, Jake Ocaasit | c14:31, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
I keep pointing out to folks that what you are trying to do is just too important to be an IEG and should instead be one of WMF's key activities on par with software development. In some parts of the world where public libraries of a reasonable quality are extremely hard to come by, it is particularly important that money is spent appropriately. For instance one could get as a paid library service, access to at least about 1400 pages of content photocopied and delivered by post for the cost of one air-trip for one person for an average trip in a country and some WMF projects have a current grant request that would be equalent of 3681290 pages (=INR 18406454/INR 5). I think I have mentioned before to you that the Library project as it stands seems to have too many editors wanting access to JSTOR/others just for themselves - and there does not seem to be any terms to ensure that those granted the gift need to share it with other Wikipedia visitors in a more open way, potentially also by recruiting new (research savvy and information literate) editors with access to reliable sources and aid in research being an incentive. I am therefore waiting to see this become a core activity before pitching in with more enthusiasm but feel free to let me know what you have in mind. (See also my comments at meta and here) Shyamal (talk) 07:11, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
We seem to have reached an impasse on the FAC. I would contend that since the secondary sources reference de Haan, the primary source isn't necessary and is unlikely to add little. You would presumably argue that it isn't comprehensive without that source. I can't see that we are likely to get it anyway, normally the resource exchange people can find a link in a day or two if it exists. I've emailed the University of Amsterdam, but only received an automated acknowledgement to date.
So what is the way forward? I'm reluctant to withdraw the article, which I think is essentially complete, but your comment is unactioned, although potentially actionable, and User:Crisco 1492 is waiting to see what the outcome of your comment is before he supports.
By the way, HBWalive has updated the Invisible rail page, but essentially is just incorporating Bashari and van Balen, so nothing new to add from that source. Cheers, Jimfbleak - talk to me?06:28, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
@Shyamal, ignore previous, they have sent the text and I'll email later. @Crisco 1492, if you want to see the text too, email me so I can attach Jimfbleak - talk to me?18:01, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. It looks useful. I would include most of the ethno-ornithology bits - the call-likened with certain kinds of drums, the idea that they drum on plants with their feet and the other local name variants. Shyamal (talk) 03:42, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
DYK for Micrixalus
On 28 May 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Micrixalus, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that dancing frogs, found in the Western Ghats in India, wave their hindlegs while calling to attract mates? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Micrixalus. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
@Jkadavoor: Technically, the two binomial names are not strictly synonyms from the point of view of taxonomists - they are alternative placements. But yes, I think we should mention that there is an ambiguous placement followed by different sources rather than to state that one is preferred over the other without sufficient strong evidence. It can only be definitely resolved by large scale molecular phylogenetics and breeding studies. Unfortunately many of these things are unlikely to happen soon. Shyamal (talk) 08:53, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Shyamal. Could you make a brief statement how to improve the wording on commons:User_talk:Liné1#Category:Pachliopta_aristolochiae? He already stated that he is willing to make any changes if practical. A french user; so not very good in preparing a statement in English.
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I'm thinking I'll nominate this to be a featured article soon. Anything you think needs to be done before then? —innotata14:55, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
@Innotata: Apologies but I am travelling. The article looks good to me but I need to recheck some references but that will have to wait until the 23rd of the month. Shyamal (talk) 06:26, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Actually, I'm going to nominate this now, so that I have time to go through the reviews. Fingers crossed, and I'll be interested to see what you can find. —innotata06:51, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks. satusuro 11:44, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Looking at your user page,about to send you an email, and there it is a message from you... no coincidence of course. email soon satusuro14:35, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
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I have not followed your case nor do I know enough about checkuser evidence for or against sockpuppetry. Given that you are able to contribute via your IP, you should not have any trouble to create a new login and contribute positively to Wikipedia. Shyamal (talk) 15:52, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
There is no checkuser evidence of sockpuppetry in my case, at least none that I am aware of. When you advise me to create a new account, you advise me to address the false accusation of socking by creating a sock. Policy (WP:CLEANSTART) prohibits blocked editors from creating new accounts. I have been wrongly treated and could use some help. CC.
I do not work much involved in the relevant area of administration. If you really believe that the blocking was in error I would suggest you go ahead and create a new account, not to fight a case but to contribute to content. I am sorry that I cannot help beyond this. Shyamal (talk) 13:43, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Email
Hello Shyamal My e-mail is a sorry story. The downloads took forever and then I discovered the available disc space my laptop was
disappearing with alarming speed every time I opened mail.So I didn't until I got everything I needed on to an external drive.I have a notion this was due to changes at Yahoo.I took a look but not for too long. Quickly then Layard. My pleasure. Is it complete though? I think I didn't have a few of the last pages. The MS is held by Blacker-Wood library, McGill University, Canada .Warm regards Robert Notafly (talk) 17:49, 27 September 2014 (UTC)I was in Europe (Italy and Greece) Not a good idea to read e-mails in either, especially Italy unless you are sure. I never seem to be able to access mine from Rome at least.
Hi Shyamal, Can you check if there is any literature on this Delias_hyparete_itohi The text is a rip from delias hyparete, only the images are different, and I cant find a single solid lead for this in lepindex or savela. My opinion the page should go up for deletion. What say? Viren (talk) 13:43, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi, am going through unidentified butterflies of India over at commons. Your image seems to be misidentified.
The only Potanthus species is P. dara found in the north. Your image is from the south. I'd say the Dark Palm Dark Telicota ancilla. According to Kehimkar. Is there some reason it has been ided as Potanthus? If not then I'd like to change the categorisation. Viren (talk) 18:44, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
It was an identification made by Dr Kalesh Sadasivan in an email to User:AshLin (30 Oct 2007) where he specifically said that "the one from Nagerhole" was a Potanthus while identifying another. I hope that was referring to this one, I can only see one forwarded mail in that thread so not sure. Shyamal (talk) 02:33, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
Hope you noticed the DR as suggested by you. Now the question is about the status of the base map. Expecting your comments there. Jee03:14, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Dear Shyamal, The redirect you made from Jacob Temminck to Coenraad Jacob Temminck is changed by me because I am nearly sure this must have been his father. See user-talk page. Greeting, Henrik de Nie, --HWN 09:49, 27 November 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hwdenie (talk • contribs)
@Hwdenie: - thanks for letting me know (oddly it seems I probably knew that in the past because I researched and wrote a bit of the Levaillant article. What a mess with these father and son namesakes. (There is another similar case in the English EIC with Frederic Moore - impossible to tell them apart). It also means that some of the species listed as named after C.J.T. in Coenraad_Jacob_Temminck may actually need to go to Temminck senior. Shyamal (talk) 10:34, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your reaction and improvement of the article. I think that most species with the name Temminck refer to Coenraad Jacob Temminck, because he was far more famous and active as a collector being the founder and director of the Rijksmuseum van Natuurlijke Historie. --HWN 07:33, 28 November 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hwdenie (talk • contribs)
Legges Tor
Dear Shyamal,
Youe editing of the wikipage Legges Tor to "Legge's Tor" is an incorrect edit. The naming of Tasmanian features is set via the Tasmanian Nomenclature board - the name of this peak on maps and in all government correspondence is Legges Tor.
The name of this peak is Legges Tor not Legge's Tor, even though the latter is more grammatically correct.
The reference you have cited is a century old and does not reflect modern usage.
@ Shyamal - Thank you. By the way, it is not a digital transcription error. It is common practice for place names to lose an apostrophe over time in Australian Naming conventions. The peak was once Legge's Tor as much as Storys Creek (to the south) was once Stor(e)y's Creek; patersons plains was once Paterson's plains etc.Sean Parker (talk) 03:37, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
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Hi Shyamal, I hope this message finds you doing well. I appreciate your efforts to improve the ant article. I just wanted to explain to you why I felt the image was relevant. The article states in the "science and technology" section that "Ant colonies may be studied by rearing or temporarily maintaining them in formicaria, specially constructed glass framed enclosures." In addition, it also states in the next section that "From the late 1950s through the late 1970s, ant farms were popular educational children's toys in the United States." The image shows both a professional formicarium, as well as a popular novelty ant farm, through which individuals are often introduced to ants. In light of these facts, I think that the image is very relevant to the article and I hope that you won't take any further issue with it. I hope you have a great night. With regards, AnupamTalk08:21, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
I understand your enthusiasm but that is a broad-coverage article that has undergone a great deal of review and care in deciding core and peripheral topics. There is an entire article at formicarium and not everything that is mentioned needs to be illustrated next to the text. I of course do not want to remove your image at the moment, but you can be sure that there is a lot of competition for that space. Shyamal (talk) 14:32, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for being so thorough in your review of the article. I can understand that though there might be a lot of competition for that space, the image I selected has merit in that it demonstrates a professional formicarium (which the section discusses), as well as one usually used for education purposes, Uncle Milton's Ant Farm. It thus covers content from two different sections. Thank you for not removing the image. In addition, if you feel any sections of the Ant article need improved, do let me know. I'd love to improve them. Also, I am aware of the article at formicarium and was actually planning on adding another image there in the near future. I appreciate your insight and hope you have a great day! With regards, AnupamTalk17:40, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Happy New Year
And a great 2015 to you too. It was great that to meet you at RW. Funny that the only Wikipedians I've knowingly met in the flesh are form India and Australia... bets wishes Jimfbleak - talk to me?07:27, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
@NQ: Certainly sounds like a good idea. What we have is an insufficiently thought out decision. Let me know if you need help with the button code changes. Shyamal (talk) 16:08, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
I changed the code for Click here to create a new request [2] and the preload template [3]. Could you take a look and see if i screwed up something? - NQ(talk)16:19, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
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Yes, a pity. But I don't have the time right now to search for more info than the sparse stuff I have, too little to start an article yet. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 09:28, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
Having spent some time to look her up, it seemed best to patch together whatever I could find and create a stub. Shyamal (talk) 11:38, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
Shamal can i know about the gaikwads who are a part of this gharana and they from kaulana(maharashtra).what ababout them why they not included in the information of gaikwads densty — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swapnilraje gaikwad (talk • contribs) 09:36, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
@Swapnilraje gaikwad: Sorry, not sure why you ask me. It is possible that I edited a couple of articles related to some members of this family associated with the study of Indian natural history. Shyamal (talk) 11:04, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
@Notafly: Incredible! Never knew there was a photo of him. All fine here, I tried emailing you last summer...before visiting London (and of course the NHM, Tring ...) Shyamal (talk) 03:19, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
I'll admit, it is a bit disturbing, as I spent the term teaching the 9–12 year olds about conservation, and here I am holding something made from an endangered/threatened animal which I wouldn't be allowed to bring out of Indonesia. I'd much rather take pictures of insects and other animals (and the students love the pictures, though they found the mealybugs scary). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:51, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
@Chiswick Chap: will do, missed that GA, will add some more bits there. I got that publication via ScienceDirect - let me know if you want a copy (email me and I will send it out). Shyamal (talk) 07:30, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
