User talk:Ruedi33a

Welcome!

Hello, Ruedi33a, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. 12:59, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Russian campaign.

Hello, I've watching many of your recent edits, and first i want to thank you for your new articles, it helps a lot, My question here is about that campaign when refered to the cassualties, in wich the sources have many discrepances with each other, so i wanted to know, if that could be expanded at the end of the article. And put the cassualties on the sides at 300,000 French deaths, 50,000 wounded, 50,000 prisioners, and 80,000 deserters. Thus giving the more realistic 480,000 cassualties. An edit who you had made before expanding it on the infobox. If so, let me know and help. The same with the orders of battle who i saw you are paying a lot of atention, just to not acumulate so many information on the infobox. Cordially regards and pardon my english.Nuevousuario1011 (talk) 22:16, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My latest strategy is: within the infobox just develop a simple range like "French casualties: 50,000-100,000 dead, wounded or captured" based on citations. Then I put the citation of 50,000 of my source behind the number it claims like "French casualties: 50,000[1]-100,000 dead, wounded or captured". If my source claims for example 75,000 in this case, I will write "French casualties: 50,000-100,000 dead, wounded or captured[1]" Deeper discussions I would put into a section called "casualties", but I am personally not interested in this kind of analysis as these numbers are only estimates, sometimes based on fabrications. Ruedi33a (talk) 04:49, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I thank you for your answer, thus said i want to ask about the casualties, if i could do some changes without ruin your improvements, for example to avoid the estimation of more casualties than soldiers comited into the campaign, and give an average. Of course based on the sources, and either include the prisioners who died in captivity as deaths or prisioners, with a breakdown below. Cordially regardsNuevousuario1011 (talk) 20:57, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also another question. At the battle of Shevardino, we should iclude Napoleon as comander? and did the French actually won? or the Russians achieved their strategic goal of delay the Frenchs? RegardsNuevousuario1011 (talk) 23:12, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have stopped adding the results of my own work to Wiki, I just try to cite correctly. For the Napoleonic wars I use Bodart, as this source is just a summary of basic information about battles. Bodart writes about Shevardino: 5 September 1812, Napoleon is commander against Bagration, 36,000 French against 20,000 Russian men, 4,000 French against 6,000 Russian casualties, no comment on the winner. All this apart from the winner I would cite in Wiki. My personal opinion that I will not write into Wiki is: Napoleon has won this battle, but he will not be able to replace the losses in this war, Kutuzov has lost the battle and he will be able to replace the losses, see "attrition warfare against Napoleon" Ruedi33a (talk) 04:49, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou for your answer, yes i got it, just i wanted to know a bit about that. I also try to not touch the results so much, because then ends in edit wars, regardsNuevousuario1011 (talk) 20:57, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Infoboxes

Hello, Ruedi33a. Once again i am here, first to congratulate you, for your new maps and navigation templates. However i saw who there was indeed a different title between Spanish uprising 1808, to Napoleon coup'd etat. So i take the "liberty", to rename it back to Spanish uprising 1808, also there are other boxes were the same happen, but as i know who before there were many duplicated ones, etc, i don't intend to modify. Just i want to told you why i had done it. And of course hope who this do not interfere with your labor, please let me know. Sincere regards.Nuevousuario1011 (talk) 17:27, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Nuevousuario1011, that is great that you contact me. I will copy the titles of the campaignboxes from now on. Sincere regards. Ruedi33a (talk) 17:33, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

About the Fall of Berlin

Hello Ruedi33a, i know who you are doing pretty intresting and hard work during the last days, but i want to ask you a consult about the "Fall of Berlin", is not who you are wrong but (you made an edit who imply who the capture of the city was a battle), in it said French Victory, and comanders Napoleon and Michel Ney. I reverted those edits, and changed the result to (Frenchs ocuppy Berlin) and eliminated the comander sections. I want to tell you because i didn't realize it was you, but now i want to explain myself, (The absence of a battle to take it, but rather an effect from the Jena campaign, doesn't seem apropiate to put ("French victory") and put comanders is not maybe the best as there was no battle in place. (and also why Ney?), in any case i want to know your point, because i explained why. But as you may know, a certain (and persistent) user (FDW... wants to mantain it as it was. of course it does not have anything to do with the article but rather because he dislikes me, and acts in that way is doing it in every edit). I certainly want to know your perspective, on the battlebox, because you are a compromised user who try to improve the wikipedia, and i have serious doubts of that being the best way to put fowards a no battle (yet important issue). I sorry for telling you what is happening here with other user, but the truth is who i want to avoid that user, and go to a good faith editor. Should keep the comander section, and the French Victory? or you don't have problem if i modify it? Please excuse my intomision and my rustic english. Cordially regardsNuevousuario1011 (talk) 00:44, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nuevousuario1011, thanks for contacting me in such a kind way. I am working in Wiki according to the principle "I have no opinion, but I cite a good book that can be read online by everyone". Let us look into Bodart, Gaston (1908). Militär-historisches Kriegs-Lexikon (1618-1905) (in German). The Fall of Berlin (1806) is not mentioned. The book is a dictionary of battles, sieges and capitulations. It seems that Berlin fell into Napoleon's hand like an apple. I mention Berlin in my map as it is very important to show the occupation of the capital of Prussia with date and place as a stepping stone of Napoleon on his way to Friedland. As I have no source I cannot add information. Kind regards Ruedi33a (talk) 04:14, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi thankyou for your answer, okay so there was no battle, but the event is important, so as i said the French ocupyied the city, but no side had a comander, because there was no battle, even if Napoleon was present. So the article must im my opinion remain. But there are no problem with changes on the infobox section. Kind Regards to you. Thankyou very much.Nuevousuario1011 (talk) 17:41, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If there are something who i could do to help please do not doubt in contacting me. I am here to help when i can.Nuevousuario1011 (talk) 17:41, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Color edits,

Hello, i am here again for your great work in the comunity, with the colors, and your work, again to thank you. But also i wonder why you put Napoleon as "not in comand" or "subordinate" in Toulon and "Paris", where even if he is not the first name he was indeed a comander. (on the 13 of Vendemiaire he was the military head) and at Toulon he was the planner, and de facto comander. I understand what you are trying to do, but i want to make you aware of those facts. (Napoleon served as a subordinate at the 1st Battle of Dego, La Maddalena, and Lyon, if i am not mistaken), but that is why he is not listed as a comander. Nevertheless is just a sugestion, and i know you have a lot of job, and do a wonder job, so those facts are minor, and i want to be clear who i thank you for those contributions. Cordially regardsNuevousuario1011 (talk) 09:24, 13 July 2021 (UTC) Also at the Russian campaign, your job again is your best there, however, Napoleon in comand is pointing towards, the battles like Mayaroslavets Vyazma and those who the main body of the French army fought, of course i am not controling you, but just i talk to you rather than do something who could damage your work. RegardsNuevousuario1011 (talk) 09:32, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thank you for your kindness. You are right, I have to check this. Ruedi33a (talk) 15:01, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The drawings of the battles for the French Invasion of Russia are corrected. Let us have a look at Siege of Toulon (1793). I used the word "subordinate" as Napoleon is not listed first in the French part of "Commanders and leaders". The article describes in addition the difficulties he had to convince his superiors. In the Second Battle of Saorgio (1794) and 13 Vendémiaire he is listed in the same way. I want to say that there is a superior officer on site he has to obey. I have to think about it. Ruedi33a (talk) 15:44, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please check if possible my new drawing in Military career of Napoleon Bonaparte. It would be great to hear a second opinion. Ruedi33a (talk) 15:52, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No problem thanks to you.

• • I saw who this time you pin point Napoleon's main body advance, without the difference of him being or not in comand. Of course it is easier, in my humble view if you want to do what (i suppose who you are doing) who is to show the attrition on the army and the routes directed by Napoleon, however this is contrasting with your previous ones who normally indicate wich "Battle is with Napoleon in command and wich not" that may confuse other users, however i will not going to dictate what or how the things must be, especially because i could also be wrong! and i am less experienced than many users, and while i could sugest other color, i could not step in your work, especially when it is one of the few recent ones to made things better here, and the criterias for your project i should respect.Nuevousuario1011 (talk) 18:49, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Regarding Military career of Napoleon Bonaparte i look at it some hour ago, and it is a great job to resume Napoleon, footsteps, of course it would be an almost imposible task to pin point battle for battle, but so far, you have managed to do with a majority of the battles. In a "Campaign resume", Italy, Egypt, Italy, etc.Nuevousuario1011 (talk) 18:49, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Regarding the point of Napoleon at Toulon 13 of Vendemiaire and Saorgio, i understand your point, and i guessed who that was the reason, however, even if he is not the first on the list, at the 13 of Vendimiaire, he did all the battle, Paul Barras was the leader of the convention, but more a political figure. It is a complex story, but in short, Napoleon (a Jacobin) was thrown in jail after Frimaire, and relased before, Vendimiaire, he was there as the leader of the "Patriots" (Jacobins), and took over the entire comand, to fought their common enemy who was the royalism. At Toulon, Napoleon indeed was not the overall comander, during much part of the siege, however the nature of Toulon is who he become a kind of facto commander, (he even have the superiors replaced) and most important was the only comander in actually doing something. So by the end of the siege, Napoleon was the comander, Dugommier, basically sat aside, and said, do what Napoleon's. Of course this is a very rustic and quick resume who probably is not what you are wanting. But i just want (not to lecture you) but overall, told you why he is actually listed as a commander. (even if he is not the first), on the other hand i want to point who Napoleon indeed served as a subordinate, thus following orders, or under supervision in other oportunities, who are not listed for the reason of not being a part of his "Command record", i put fowards the example of 1 Dego, just as one.Nuevousuario1011 (talk) 18:49, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• • • And also on other topic, considering your main work being focused on Napoleon and Russia, i wanted to ask if you have information about the combat of Gorodnia, on october 25, after in wich a minor but relevant combat took place between Napoleon and Platov cavalry, in wich both sides suffer few casualties, but Napoleon was in the mid of the fight, as well as Berthier and others. In any case cordially regards, and if you need who someone do something for you or help with some work i have no problem in helping, Nuevousuario1011 (talk) 18:49, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • Was this the fight where Napoleon nearly was killed or captured? Can you see the movie "Kutuzov" on youtube? [1] It is described in Kutuzov (film).
      • But a real source is this: ...Sunday, 25 October, although the Russians pulled slightly back south of the town. French casualties in the battle totalled about 5,000 killed and wounded, the Russians slightly more. Napoleon rode through the ruin of Maloyaroslavets, then undertook a reconnaissance expedition, from which he only just survived a sudden attack by Cossacks...taken from [2] page 204 "The fox of the north" by Parkinson, Roger. Ruedi33a (talk) 07:54, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
        • Yes was that fight, there are some sources, describing it also.
        • But as i have limited knowledge of English and French, thus i probably will not create any article soon, about this, but, acording to Profesor Rey in her book about the Russian campaign, "with the battle of Mayaroslavets over, Napoleon hesitated to exploit this victory and march towards Kaluga, in the meantime he went to oversaw, the Russian dispositive, with his staff, including, Berthier, Murat, Bessiers and generals Caulincourt and Rapp", the battle is described by Jean Tranie, and Juan Carlos Carmigniani, in their book "Les Polonais de Napoléon l épopée du 1er régiment de lanciers de la garde impériale", in wich in short it said, "The cossacks, of Platov ambushed the staff, in a sizeable proportion"... "Polish Lanciers and members of the staff, repelled the cossacks in a confused Melee, until reinforcements, force the Russians to retreat". Nuevousuario1011 (talk) 18:39, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know but maybe i could initate a project, or something about this, and maybe put a red link after Mayaroslavets with the name there, unless somebody do it first. (especially because i am working with sources who altought i understand, as you could see, my grammar is poor at best. Anyways cordially regards, and good luck, if you need who someone do some minor edits, or sources, talk to my page or here, i have no problem. (and thankyou for your recent edits)Nuevousuario1011 (talk) 18:39, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Frederick the Great

Ruedi33a: I think your maps for the Silesian Wars were a great addition to the article, and all the articles you put them into. I think they are a great way to link material with a common visual, and give a good sense of the geography of Frederick II's campaigns. Thanks! Wtfiv (talk) 02:33, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wtfiv: Thanks for your encouragement. Have you seen my maps about Alexander the Great and Napoleon? Have fun! Thanks a million for your work on the sources of the article about Frederick the Great especially using sfn and making them accessible over the internet archives. Ruedi33a (talk) 06:03, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Ruedi33a! I'm glad you appreciate the work on the article! I do have a favor to ask: In the maps for the Battles of Frederick the Great, could you consider adding Berlin as a label in the map. Prague and Dresden are great, but Berlin is essential as it defines Frederick II's home location, and I think as it gives context to the markers on your map for 13 (Zorns5dorf) and 15 (Kunersdorf). I will definitely check out the maps for Alexander and Napoleon!

(BTW: if you reply on your home page, please use a reply template to let me know. I only saw your reply because I returned to your page regarding the request for the map label. Otherwise, I would have missed your note and not known about the other maps!) Wtfiv (talk) 19:03, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Wtfiv:: The 1757 raid on Berlin was a battle for survival although he himself took no part. If you do not like it, just undo! Ruedi33a (talk) 05:51, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I had played with adding Berlin myself as just a label, but realized that the label comes with a mark on the interactive map. I think the raid on Berlin is a good compromise, and if another editor objects, we can go from there. But it's nice seeing Berlin on the map! (Thinking about it further, I think reminding readers that Frederick did temporarily lose Berlin is worthwhile too.) Wtfiv (talk) 08:06, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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		I hereby award you The da Vinci Barnstar for your creation and advocacy of using OSM maps to help people get a sense of the geographic relationships of interrelated sites. It is a great option for editors and really helps readers! Wtfiv (talk) 16:28, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your work on Rome is great too! Quite a challenge, but quite worthwhile! Wtfiv (talk) 16:28, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wtfiv, I am deeply honoured Ruedi33a (talk) 17:36, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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