User talk:Ruakh/Archive 3
You just edited that article. Unfortunately, the definition is completely screwy; it makes no sense to say that a function from S to N is computable, if elements of S have not already been assigned Godel numbers. And a computable function cannot output random elements, unless they have been assigned Godel numbers. So neither the function f nor its inverse could possibly be computable if S is anything other than the natural numbers. If you are interested in fixing the article, please feel free (nobody else has stepped up, and I am putting it off). There is already some discussion on the talk page in the section Definition. I'm writing because minor changes you make might get lost if and when the article is rewritten, and that would be a waste of your time. CMummert · talk 04:23, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Flag iconsThanks for bringing it up on Ligulem's talk page. I was looking for comments regarding this and noticed that you brought it up before I did :) Let us wait for a reply. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 07:41, 26 January 2007 (UTC) ComplementsPlease pardon my vigorous discussion on your article about defective verbs, but I enjoy linguistics very much and am no doubt somewhat obstinate. I believe we may be talking about two different things with the same word. I thought, at first, that you were talking about a subject, object, or verb complement, but, if "beware" be the same as "be ware", "ware" would itself be a complement to the subject. By the definition I have known, a complement is something which modifies the meaning of the sentence and may not be removed without losing meaning. If that be so, a complement of a complement would cease to be a complement to the sentence. But, perhaps I err in that. If you can enlighten me, I am eager to learn.
Scare QuotesPlease see my note at the Disputed English grammar talk page. --Selket 08:54, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
RestrictivenessPerhaps you could change restrictiveness so a preposition it does not end with (so it does not end with a preposition). Also, what happens if John has more than one wife? Then beautiful might be restrictive if his other wives are ugly, or even average in appearance. As the article stands now, there is a systemic bias in favour of monogamist societies. − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 00:21, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
French verbs: perfect or compound imperativeThe problem with the "French verbs" page as it stands is that the English phrase "have done it", which supposedly translates "aie-le fait", is not an imperative at all, and it fails to cast even a glimmer of light on the meaning or function of the French construction. The scruple you voice about an ambiguity ("have it done" = "fais-le faire") is surely far outweighed by this fatal problem. In any case the ambiguity is easily resolved once the construction is placed within its proper context, which is to order someone to do something by a given point in the future, e.g. "Aie-le fait avant demain!" which you would naturally translate as "Have it done by tomorrow!". I've checked Hawkins & Towell, French Grammar and Usage (2nd Edition, London 2001) which backs me up on this, calling the construction the "compound imperative":
There are further examples at http://www.ruishi.info/forum/simple/index.php?t38635.html:
If you place "fais-le faire" likewise in context, the difference is clear. The first 10 google results for this phrase included several instances of "Fais-le faire par les autres!" and one each of "fais-le faire par un autre" and "fais-le faire par des gens plus qualifiés". In English, this would be rendered most naturally as "Get somebody else to do it!", and "Get someone better qualified to do it!" Gracchus babeuf 04:26, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm glad to see we are in agreement about the French side of this issue, but there seems to be no movement on the English side. Your "have done it" is, as I said, not an imperative construction in English, and it is not even acceptable as a sentence, whereas the French "Aie-le fait!" is an imperative sentence. Your phrase is only part of an indicative sentence. Your problem, I believe, arises from abstraction: the French construction, and its English translation, require further contextualisation, preferably an adverbial phrase that sets a time limit on the action to be performed. My suggestion "Have it done by tomorrow!" is an English imperative sentence, it provides the sense of the French sentence and it helps to clarify the use of the perfect imperative construction. I would be interested in hearing of any alternative translations, but offering a verb phrase from an indicative sentence to translate an imperative sentence is not an option. The nearest I can find is "Get it done!", but to me that suggests "Fais-le faire!" (i.e. by another agency) more strongly than "Have it done (by tomorrow)!" So there you have it: on the one hand (the present text) an English non-sentence that belongs to a larger indicative sentence and does nothing to explain the French construction, and on the other hand (my suggestion) an English imperative sentence that elucidates the function in the same way as the French construction. In any case, there's no need to stop at one sentence: I've already provided other material above that would be useful as further explanation. Granted, the French construction is not often heard, but it seems that if it is to be mentioned at all, it's worth getting it right. Gracchus babeuf 19:18, 26 February 2007 (UTC) Wikipedia guidelines dictate that you assume good faith in dealing with other editors. Please participate in a respectful and civil way, and assume that they are here to improve Wikipedia. Thank you.
Berry's ParadoxYes, I take your point. The reason why it is a paradox is that there should be a number that fits the description when the sentence is analysed mathematically. However, I fear that the description that already exists is not sufficient for the lay person to understand this paradox. I for one have no idea what a 'Naive set theory' is. Perhaps we could reach a compromise. I will re-enter my explanation with a slight modification. I will state that what distinguishes a paradox from mere hypothetical descriptions amounting to nothing, like the one you mentioned, is that something must match the given statement...unlike 'the smallest positive integer less than zero', which is in itself contradictary. Saurabhb 16:16, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
I can describe infinity in under ten words (7). Also, it says: "I can do what I can do, plus one". There are better paradoxes to muddle ourselves in.Qe2eqe 21:17, 28 April 2007 (UTC) hpochondriayes that WAS me [xyaasehshalomx] :) sorry!xxx —The preceding unsigned comment was added by XYaAsehShalomX (talk • contribs) 00:51, 6 March 2007 (UTC).
RedlinkThanks for fixing my terrible typo.[1] CRGreathouse (t | c) 02:36, 12 March 2007 (UTC) Singular theyKeep up the improvement of Singular they. I like your changes so far. JStripes 16:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC) Wrong summaryThe edit summary on the edit at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adjective&curid=37512&diff=120694744&oldid=120605569 doesn't reflect the actual edit. (I guess it's not a huge deal in this particular case, but still. Misleading edit summaries are bad.) —RuakhTALK 14:35, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Redirection of Expletive deleted to ExpletiveHi, you wrote in your edit summary to this edit "rv: there was a decision to merge these articles. you can't just ignore that decision; you have to convince people otherwise." Can you please point me to that decision? I am having trouble finding it. Thanks! — Jeff G. 20:58, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Spanish cliticsI saw you changed one of the Spanish examples in the Polypersonal agreement article, arguing that "Spanish clitics are actually *written* as separate words when they appear before the verb". Just to clarify, I'm a Spaniard and while it's true that in modern speech the usual is to say se lo dio for "he/she gave it to him/her/them", restricting the use of suffixed pronoun clitics to imperative and non-finite forms, it is perfectly possible and grammatical to say dióselo. It merely has a certain archaic/literary feel to it, because nowadays such forms are commonly found only in literature, particularly in classic works or in modern ones written in an archaicizing or solemn tone (much like the use of "thou" in English). In fact, the very form dióselo is used, for example, in Don Quixote (in chapter 54) and in translations of the Bible. 213.37.6.65 00:55, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Math TrollsI had no intention of causing anger or frustration among the math gods of the Wikipedia. I thought it was perfectly reasonable to seek clarification on bijection/cardinality as it applied to practical programming, and I still have no real idea what sort of paradox is introduced by not having bijection (I assume its exclusion causes paradoxical results based on my previous 1-semester study of mathematical logic in school). Thanks to your comments (positive/supportive) and the other's slap about being incoherent (not so positive/supportive), I realized that my initial inclusion of "one-to-one correspondence" was overkill on finite sets, allowing me to recommend to a client a coding solution with a faster execution time than coding for strict cardinality testing as she had initially inquired about. As someone who has spent a lifetime tutoring students - especially math students - who were in over their heads, I have always been leery of defining groups of people with less education or experience than myself as "trolls", and I am warning students in general that making a serious query on any Wikipedia math article discussion page is liable to produce damage to their self-esteem and discouragement of further study. Hotfeba 23:05, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Over at talk:birthday paadox you put back the useless commentry I removed, and removed some useless commentry yourself. Why? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Qe2eqe (talk • contribs) 06:03, 19 April 2007 (UTC).
In my talk message here, I asked for feedback, not reverts. I'm sure you put a lot of original research into this section, but it was very unclear and unwieldy. Your use of the term "arguments" is ambiguous. It could mean "argument" as in logic and argumentation, or it could mean "disputes" or "disagreement". I don't think it was meant as the former, or if it was, most of the examples do not amount to examples of arguments. They are examples of what causes disagreement. Please discuss on talk before reverting. Otheus 10:40, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Re:NixonI thought it was pretty clear. If you cannot prove that it was Nixon's list, then it means that you are drawing your own conclusion of that film's joke. That's original research. Maybe it would have been better if I said "until", instead of "unless". BIGNOLE (Contact me) 11:52, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Mister Tagger. So you come from Israel and know my language so well as to doubt what I and the Académie française say? Speaks volumes... This is trolling and wiki doesn't need trolls. ;-) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by AnPrionsaBeag (talk • contribs) 17:41, 30 May 2007 (UTC).
Re: AlefI thought I should've explained my edit in talk, sorry for not doing so. However, I stand by the edit (although I've modified point #2 to be less confusing) and will explain it here. Basically there are only three ways in which alef can be written, but in general it can be either a sound or an em kri'a (if we go by Hebrew grammar). Here are the points: 1. What it means is that the alef will take the shape of the vowel that its nikud dictates. Let's take your example, the word לֶאֱכֹל. Analyzing letter by letter:
2. Actually there are lots of words where alef is an em kri'a. Take for example: rofe (רופא), matza (found) (מצא), aramatic words and expressions like אליבא דכלא עלמא, etc. 3. I thought we had consensus, but feel free to add 'no consensus yet' to the end. Anyway, it should indeed be preceeded by an apostrophe and not written as one. Take the first case of le'ekhol. If the alef in it was written as a vowel, the word would've look like le'khol. Same with Be'er Sheva (Be'r Sheva?), etc. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 08:17, 1 June 2007 (UTC) P.S. I think the same edit should be made to the letter ayin which is very similar, but I'll wait for your reply first.
Be as an auxiliary verbHello. The claim that be is always an auxiliary verb comes from A Student's Introduction to English Grammar by Geoffrey Pullum and Rodney Huddleston, the same two authors of the Cambridge Grammar of the English Language. They identify two syntactic properties for distinguishing auxiliary from other ("lexical") verbs, namely that they can be directly negated and that they swap places with the subject to form a question. Lexical verbs, conversely, require an auxiliary to be negated and to form a question. The book lists be, have, and do as the three non-modal auxiliaries. The authors also explain what they call "dually-classified verbs" (do, have, need, dare) which behave as both auxiliary and lexical verbs—be is not one of them. The reasoning they use for classifying be as always auxiliary is that it always demonstrates the syntactic properties of an auxiliary verb and never the properties of a lexical verb—i.e., it can always be directly negated, and always inverts itself with the subject in an interrogative clause. This is the crucial passage:
They then give an example of be as an aspect marker and be as the only verb in the clause, and the syntax is indeed the same for the affirmative, interrogative, and negative clauses. Their reasoning seems sound to me. I'm sorry I don't have a more accessible reference, but this is the only source I have at my disposal that treats the subject in-depth. Strad 01:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC) I undid your reversion on the article above. I don't know how well you know spanish, but the ending for words that have "yo" in front of the verb is "o", such as "yo hablo" (I talk), "yo nado" (I swim), and "yo bebo" (I drink). If yo is before the word, the ending is not a. That is for words that have "he, she or you" in front, like "el nada" (he swims) and "usted habla" (you talk). I hope I explained it well enough, since its kind of hard to explain. If you have any questions tell me on my talk page. Thanks! ~ Wikihermit 20:21, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
SatyrBot: Edit summary.I don't suppose your edit summary could be more explicit, saying what tag it's adding? —RuakhTALK 15:57, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Hey...I had added http://www.englishforums.com to above page. Choose your words, ain't a spm. EF is not commercial and is well know English language forum where the most teachers and native speakers are very active. EF even permits anon posting, so you don't have to register to ask for any help...So, EF is more than helpful to general public, everybody can come and ask for free help. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.165.182.233 (talk • contribs) 11:10, 6 August 2007 (UTC).
Birthday attackAgreed on the superscripts. Thanks for noting that! Mmernex 15:38, 14 August 2007 (UTC) Re: The Pearl-QatarYes, you're right. I've fixed the article. Thanks Rjwilmsi 20:08, 17 August 2007 (UTC) Editor indeed misunderstood"I'm just a soul whose intentions are good... please don't let me be misunderstood" - Elvis Costello RCSB 19:50, 25 August 2007 (UTC) Table at Birthday paradoxRegarding the table with values for the probability of two people having the same birthday if there are n people in the room. There is a dispute between 3 users it seems, but the change that you two are reverting back to is incorrect either way. If you look at how the function is mathematically defined, it will in fact be undefined for n=366, also there is no value of n for which p(n)=1 If you think about it logically and ignore the fact that the table is for the function p(n) then the number must be 367 for two people to have the same birthday as logic tells you to include leap years, even if the function doesn't include it for the sake of simplicity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.161.163.51 (talk) 16:41, August 29, 2007 (UTC)
spanish verbs pagei'm not sure why only 'see' should be italicized. [2] 74.128.180.241 00:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
power means inequalitythank you for moving my contribution concerning power means inequality, i copied it from an user supbpage of mine, and pasted it in a wrong place.--Ghazer 16:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Syntax, markup languages, and whateverRuakh, was this edit summary comment of yours (“partial rv: I *do* understand XHTML, and use it on my own sites, but this is simpler/prettier for non-technical editors, and MediaWiki converts it to proper XHTML.”) directed at me? I don’t care about what method is used. I only give a rip about the end result. As I wrote here on the Kilogram talk page that I’ve been trying to take care of obscure new paragraphs that follow superscripted lines. Now that I just looked at that discussion topic, I see that SMcCandlish has a hard-on over the methodology being used. Is that who you’re arguing with? What’s going on? Greg L (my talk) 20:19, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
XHTMLReplied at my talk page; short ver.: Yes, p inside li is fine, but is redundant, and p not closing is not fine. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 20:13, 28 September 2007 (UTC) BiblicalI saw where last January you discussed on a MOS talkpage, the question of whether the word "Biblical" should be capitalized like all other proper adjectives; you may wish to take part in the RFC on this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bible. Thanks, Til Eulenspiegel 18:04, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
edit warSo, we're in an edit war. I won't take it personally. In my opinion the difference comes down to prescriptivism versus descriptivism. American Heritage is descriptivist, even accepting comprise to be a reasonable substitute for "compose"! I know that they do this because there are a lot of people that talk like this. As a prescrivist, I am totally against this; my preferred sources are OED and Fowler. If I were to frame the debate, I would say it's a decision between writing concisely and writing as people speak. MisterSheik 00:54, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Double redirectDear Ruakh, Thank You very much for Your message. I thought of fixing the double redirect itself, but I thought that redirect pages can be modified only by an administrator. Now I have just read the trick in Wikipedia:Double redirects#How to fix a double redirect, thus I have just fixed a double redirect of mine: Sireniki Eskimo (people) -> Sireniki Eskimo people -> Sireniki Eskimos. I saw meanwhile You have fixed another doulbe redirect chain for me (Sirenik language -> Sireniki Eskimo (language) -> Sireniki Eskimo language), thank You for that. Best wishes, Physis (talk) 02:45, 26 November 2007 (UTC) Are you really BukharianAre you Bukharian Jewish or Muslim? LeeMulod333 13:42, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm also Bukharian Jewish. My mom is part Russian but that doesn't mean anything to me. I identify as Bukharian and I have never heard of Bukharan. It matters what the community calls itself, not google. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LeeMulod333 (talk • contribs) 03:23, 7 December 2007 (UTC) I found your edit on the mark and the edit summary gave me a chuckle. What on earth is Wikipedia coming to? If you find any other preposterous claims of POV, let me know; I've started a section on my user page for such foolishness. --C S (talk) 07:18, 27 May 2008 (UTC) mKR edits
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