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User talk:Plasmic Physics/Archive 1
WelcomeHi Plasmic Physics, and a warm welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you have enjoyed editing as much as I did so far and decide to stay. Unfamiliar with the features and workings of Wikipedia? Don't fret! Be Bold! Here's some good links for your reference and that'll get you started in no time!
Most Wikipedians would prefer to just work on articles of their own interest. But if you have some free time to spare, here are some open tasks that you may want to help out : Oh yes, don't forget to sign when you write on talk pages, simply type four tildes, like this: ~~~~. This will automatically add your name and the time after your comments. And finally, if you have any questions or doubts, don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Once again, welcome! - Pyrotec (talk) 11:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC) TemplatesHi Plasmic Physics, Are you vandalising the element info boxes? You have very recently changed Template:Infobox_oxygen, Template:Infobox_sulfur and Template:Infobox_phosphorus without any explanation in the edit summaries. In all three cases you have removed an oxidation state and an associated reference and inserted a different oxidation state and a different reference. The oxidation state and reference that you have removed were valid so I have reinstated them. It would help in future if you would summarise what you are doing.Pyrotec (talk) 10:55, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Your recent editsHi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button Oxidation statesReposting here since you seem to be the same user as User:222.153.150.12. Nitrogen does form compounds in the +1 oxidation state (FN=NF) and in the -1 oxidation state (HN=NH). I've reverted your edit accordingly. Please look at a decent book such as Greenwood, Norman N.; Earnshaw, Alan (1997). Chemistry of the Elements (2nd ed.). Butterworth-Heinemann. ISBN 978-0-08-037941-8. before deleting more oxidation states. --Itub (talk) 12:29, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Refs inside templatesThere appears to be a bug associated with references declared inside of templates. I have cut and pasted the template expansion into the beryllium article, which is the work-around. If you do the same on other cases where this is a problem, please use the edit-comment to explain why you did this. Also, when cutting and pasting from the template to the main article, make sure you exclude cutting and pasting any <noinclude> ... </noinclude> sections in the template. Karl Hahn (T) (C) 12:33, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Trilithium(1+) Ion AzanetriideI think that most chemistry-literate editors would consider your renaming lithium nitride as "Trilithium(1+) Ion Azanetriide" as ill-advised, to be mild. If you want to discuss your approach before acting, then please consult with Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chemicals. Please desist from such edits. --Smokefoot (talk) 12:43, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
To expand on my comments above, slightly: The "political" problem with IUPAC naming is this: in most chemists' experience, instructors most insistent on nomenclature were usually weaker intellectually than those whose lectures focused on physical reality. Good luck with your editing, seems that you have a plan.--Smokefoot (talk) 13:09, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
PLEASE STOP' changing IUPAC names. the names you are inserting are chemically incorrect and nomenclaturally nonsense. If you continue to change these parameters wthout discussion, this could be construed as vandalism. Physchim62 (talk) 10:35, 19 September 2008 (UTC) Oh, I seeI saw your latest edits on the Li compounds. Unfortunate.--Smokefoot (talk) 03:53, 19 September 2008 (UTC) Checking in with Wikipedia:WikiProject ChemicalsYou will find that simply imposing a view of IUPAC names can be taken negatively. Many naming conventions exist and the name that you think should be displaced could be placed in the "other names" category. It is always a good idea to check with the Wikipedia project at Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemicals about plans that might be broadly impacting.--Smokefoot (talk) 14:15, 2 January 2009 (UTC) Image copyright problem with File:(1E)-1-npd-1-e.JPGThanks for uploading File:(1E)-1-npd-1-e.JPG. The image has been identified as not specifying the copyright status of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. If you don't indicate the copyright status of the image on the image's description page, using an appropriate copyright tag, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided copyright information for them as well. For more information on using images, see the following pages: This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 06:20, 6 February 2009 (UTC) Your recent chemfobox changesI and wikipedia project chemistry WP:CHEM oppose your recent changes of IUPAC names. Let us consider titanium nitride; your proposed name "titanium(3+) ion azanetriïde" is not used in the world, as obvious from a Google search. Another issue which I oppose with titanium nitride is deletion of a chemical structure and its symmetry; that structure is by no means "specific" to one compound, but to the whole class of related binaries. I wish to believe in your sincere effort to improve WP, but WP:CHEM members suggest this might not be the case, and your edits might be considered as vandalism. Materialscientist (talk) 12:21, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
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Hi there I reverted your last edit because I don't see how it adds value to the article. It is usually possible to generate several systematic names for any compound, but it doesn't matter since this name (DMSO) is the most common and accepted. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 04:34, 25 May 2010 (UTC) Please stopDear Plasma Physics, Have you seen the latest discussion about your edits at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chemicals#user:Plasmic Physics? There are many editors who find you addition of (supposedly) IUPAC names unhelpful, but none (except you) who support them. It would benefit Wikipedia, and in particular its chemistry articles, if you would at least engage in discussion on the matter. Ben (talk) 11:16, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
DIDSSorry about that revert at DIDS. I must have accidently clicked the revert button somehow. My apologies - it was entirely unintentional. Thanks for all the improvements you've been making to chemical articles lately. They are very helpful. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:24, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Why is {{infobox neutronium}} a violation of Wikipedia policies or guidelines? — Arthur Rubin (talk) 00:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Nonsense. The "Nt" may (or may not be) original thought, but the rest is from reliable sources, although not official statements of IUPAC. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 03:56, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
I disagree. Regardless, it is not against Wikipedia policy or guidelines, and you are subject to 3RR. Just as a reminder....
Hello, I was wondering why you reverted my addition of the navbox Template:States of matter to the neutronium article? Neutronium is listed in the navbox. You did not leave an edit summary. Thanks. David Hollman (Talk) 09:44, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Hey there I removed the chembox you added, because chemboxes are only for compounds, not for ions. There's been talk of a box for ions which could use the same style, but nothing has happened out of it. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 02:50, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
CarboniteMy apologies that you needed to fix this, it was just a dumb typo on my part. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 02:49, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox neutronium
FluoromethylidyneDoes it exist then? I cannot believe it can be stable. Certainly I could not see it in the three patents shown by ChemSpider, and I couldn't find any other data (the other data on ChemSpider is (I suspect) computer generated based on structure. Ronhjones (Talk) 10:30, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
I can see it might be part of a complex (a bit like CO) - that could stabilise it, but as a unique entity, I also have my doubts. I will continue to look for data, if it ends up with no references that are valid, then maybe it needs to go to AfD Ronhjones (Talk) 22:14, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
SMILES/InChI/etc.Hmm .. I see we use different sources for our InChI's and SMILES. I am running a script, which updates it from one source (ChemSpider) and validates that one (I do think it is a correct SMILES / InChI) .. and validates that version of the Wikipedia. And you use another one here and there, which results in CheMoBot tagging all these ChemBoxes as 'wrong' (which is not really true, of course, there are different flavours of SMILES and InChI's) .. When, soon, I am going to switch over to really keeping them validated (as we already do for the CASNo), this would mark a lot of pages as 'being wrong'. May I ask you, which source you use (or do you generate them yourself) .. I could write the script to use your same source (maybe). For me, ignoring the InChI and SMILES is not really an option, as there will be ones which are really wrong at the moment (so which need to be updated to one of the sources anyway), or empty (which I am trying to add). Another option is, that you, after you update the SMILES/InChI's, also update Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemicals/Index/Wikipedia:WikiProject Pharmacology/Index Thoughts? --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:20, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
I know that PubChem/ChemSpider have wrong structures (well, they all have ..). I do most by eye, so if the structure is incorrect, or too difficult, then I ignore it and move on. Interesting problem. Maybe we should consider to use the standard InChI and SMILES .. and update all the revids then accordingly. I'm only not sure how to do that scripted (and doing these 11.000 all completely by hand is going to take .. ages, we do need some automation help). Any ideas? Could you provide lists which I could load into my script? --Dirk Beetstra T C 20:34, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
I could do something like that. By the way, it is a script, certainly not a bot (the changes are presented to me, I have to check the identifiers, and then acknowledge it is correct); I could check whether you (e.g.) 'upgraded' the InChI and SMILES, and if so, use a revid with those InChI/SMILES in the index. Thanks for the thoughts, I'll start re-coding tomorrow! --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:53, 3 October 2010 (UTC) I've adapted the script for now so that it does at least not re-(re-(re-(re-)))update the InChI, InChIKey and SMILES. I'll generate a list later of the cases where they are changed from the ChemSpider version, and check what we want to do with those (I would suggest that we just use those, and update the revids of correct versions in the indices. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:13, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Al4C3Hi, no offense intended by my basically erasing your fine analysis of charges and bonding in this carbide. Such exercises seem useful in the classroom (not to me, but they are common), but my sense is that including such analysis verges on OR and encouraging other, perhaps less informed editors to discuss/speculate on immeasureables, such as the degrees of covalency, formal charges, vs measureables such as coordination geometry and coordination number. The carbides and borides are just very complicated, it seems to me. But if you strongly disagree, feel free to indicate your views on some talk page. With best wishes, --Smokefoot (talk) 18:02, 8 October 2010 (UTC) Drugbox --> ChemboxI don't disagree... but do you really want to quarrel with the druggies? --Rifleman 82 (talk) 05:48, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
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