User talk:PasdecomplotWelcome!
Pasdecomplot, you are invited to the Teahouse!
So sweet, and I'll rsvp as yes. Pasdecomplot (talk) 21:29, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Le quagmireMystery re-edit of word 'TBan', to 'Thanks'; occurred during editing at other far end of discussion thread. 24jan2021.[1] ____________________________
wish to protect account from hijacking while gone. Pasdecomplot (talk) 14:12, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
mobile editingHey, Pasdecomplot, I know you're taking a sabbatical but, for when you get back: an editor who edits often on his device recommends not using the mobile site or the app but instead the desktop site, which you can get to by scrolling down to the bottom of any article. He has an essay about smartphone editing at User:Cullen328/Smartphone editing. I think it's possible using the mobile site or the app, combined with unfamiliarity with the desktop site, might have caused issues that then caused a communications disconnect between you and other editors, including me, and if that's true I apologize. Best to you. —valereee (talk) 12:02, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for your diligenceHi Normchou I noticed you're on this editor[3] already. Here are three more blankings without reason at Khenchen Palden Sherab Rinpoche and Dudjom Rinpoche and Dilgo Khyentse. As soon as I was blocked. It appears the editor has a rollback tool, since the blankings are noted as reverts, and they are rollbacking around the bots. Also, they're still blanking Nyingchi. I think it's possibly CaradhrasAiguo's sockpuppet, and note AdoTang has used identical text at 2008 Tibetan unrest. Restores are definitely in order. Please and thanks. Pasdecomplot (talk) 23:56, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Identical unsourced text repeatedly inserted by AdoTang, 103.205.9.224, and MarkH21 at 2008 Tibetan unrest:
Old noteHi Pasdecomplot, Thank you for your edit expanding the section "20th century" on the Tibetan Buddhism page. It's important those of us familiar with Tibetan Buddhism and Maoist China work together. Time is precious, and so we need to support each other... There is a very real and current danger to our teachings and methods, and that is Chinese manipulation. You should know both OTD and TTD want the same thing - that is to unite the Karma Kagyu lineage. Let it unfold with time, and it will. Skillfully. Have confidence. You don't need to rush. Understand that there are and were very real dangers to the lives of both OTD and TTD and their families. China would have its way and kill both of them. Many high lamas have been killed. For this reason a lot of information has to be kept in secrecy. This means you and I don't know the full story regarding, and don't need to. Dharma is intact. Each of us needs to work together, and not create unnecessary work for each other. We have busy lives, and editing on wikipedia is noble work. All best wishes, Badabara (talk) 07:22, 1 September 2020 (UTC) @Badabara Thanks for the positive wishes! Working in unison is always easier than working in conflict, but Mr Floyd went way overboard... Regards. Pasdecomplot (talk) 00:01, 2 September 2020 (UTC) SandboxIt has been pointed out to me that you're currently working on a filing for AN in your sandbox. As long as you move that to AN in a timely manner that is fine. However, what is not fine there, at AN/ANI, or anywhere else would be speculating that an editor is having a nervous breakdown. Please remove that speculation. Barkeep49 (talk) 16:51, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
January 2021![]() You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for violation of your editing restriction and repeated and regular combative edits incompatible with editing on a collaborative project.. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} . Barkeep49 (talk) 16:35, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Yes, we're talking about the same diff. You offer no supporting opinion on how or where it allegedly violates the TBan. You again, for the third time, fail to provide your secret reason. That's also a false claim that I declined to remove the text from the sandbox, since the diff there evidences I told you you were acting outside the parameters of the TBan, and to "Just stop". You promptly blocked me, and prevented me from editing which is obviously very different from declining to remove text. Just remove the mistaken block, Barkeep49, and apologize. Pasdecomplot (talk) 21:31, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
ValereeeValereee's assessments are once again gross mischaracterizations of my contributions and edits, and disturbingly incorrect in their sweeping judgements (located here). She (assumed pronoun) taught me about AdminAbuse at George Floyd, and afterwards taught me about Hounding. Unfortunately, Barkeep and GirthSummit, who might otherwise be good administrators, are presently aiding in just another one of her sanction-games. And, her next sanction-game target has been revealed in the last sentences above: Tibetan Buddhism and China. I've made more than 3000 edits, but Valereee has characterized my understanding of RS as a "deep misunderstanding", due to one source Mark and NormChou didn't approve of before an RSn was opened. (Sure. One source (Tibetan Political Review) that had published a published academic author's work (Warren Smith Jr), who also has a page in FR wiki. The flurry of activity in rushing the deletion of the source and 2015 text about "singing and dancing" Tibetans in "fake Tibetan 'model villages'" from Nyingchi#Tourism was astonishing. It's possible the Tibetan nuns in Nyingchi's 2016 Re-education camps are being forced to not only sing and dance on stage (per RS), but to sing and dance for Chinese tourists in Nyingchi at the fake villages, where forced sex for tourists could also be involved (not in RS yet), since RS states rape by the camp guards is considered a form of "re-education". ) Involved at the page were Chuckie (CaradhrasAiguo), Esyimbro, MarkH21, myself, and NormChou. And, it's still an issue for Valereee? The edit history reveals Valereee is the most disruptive editor in the topic area, after Chuckie and now Mark. Valereee's edits in Dudjom Rinpoche were deeply and repetitively disruptive - to a lede and beyond (see mobile diffs above). Their edits reveal a total lack of respect for BLP parameters, and a repetitively deep lack of knowledge in editing pages on spiritual leaders. I repair her edits, Chuckie's edits, and now Mark's disruptive edits. It that what she finds "disruptive"? What's incredible is that Valereee has not stopped "piling on" since June, and since George Floyd:
Valereee is not able to accurately describe anything about me or my contributions, nor is she a reliable source of information, of research and diffs, and her personal opinion of me is completely unreliable. As her block record reveals, she has issues with me which are uncontrollable. To pretend otherwise suggests unconsciousness, or an inability to hold herself accountable. Please stop the invalid blocks & admin abuse![]() Pasdecomplot (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: This invalid block has now been in place for two weeks. The TBan's language is specific: Wikipedia:Editing_restrictions#Pasdecomplot (and I'm treating this request as if it was at ANI since I'm blocked from editing there). It's reasons were allegedly to halt comments made on edit summaries, made while previously dealing with a chronic sockpuppet [19] CaradhrasAiguo, aka Chuckie, who was coordinating disruptive edits with an administrator Valereee [20]. Valereee's ANI and TBan request meets the definition of sanction-game, along with their history of targeting me with sanction games, hounding, rudeness and disruptive editing[21]. Since this TBan sanction began, administrative abuses have spread from Valereee to Barkeep49 and to GirthSummit. After stopping the commenting on motivations on edit summaries, constant goal-post shifts and OR re-interpretations of the TBan, which are not supported by my text, escalated to create an increasingly hostile editing environment that includes deleted and disassociated refs, excessive tagging, direct rudeness, trolling and hounding on pages, on talks, on noticeboards, and on this user talk as detailed in the earlier unblock request. The TBan is also being used to silence and delete balanced POV on Tibet and Tibetan Buddhism. On 31 Dec, a TBan violation was alleged and used by GirthSummit to issue a block which protected the shredding of multiple editors' balanced POV on 2008 Tibetan unrest, undertaken by MarkH21 and supported by Cullen328. HOUND correctly describes Mark's actions of following into at least 6 pages and reverting supported info at least on 45 occasions. My warnings did not address Mark's motivation here nor here nor here, but the accusers' OR interpretations did. Very notably, Mark has seemingly replaced Chuckie as the go-to editor for re-inserting the Chinese government's POV: On 31Dec, Mark reinserted the identical and unsourced Chinese POV text used by AdoTang and by 103.205.9.224 [22], also captured in this diff. Now, another alleged 'comment on motivation' has been invalidly used by Barkeep to enact an indefinite block. Again, absolutely nothing in my text makes a comment on motivations[23]. Both blocks were made by editors of an encyclopedia which seriously addresses and deletes OR - yet, OR is being used as a method of administrative abuse: These are interpretations not supported by text and are misinterpretations that have been clarified, but even the clarifications are ignored. This block and the 31Dec block are also both invalid since it's impossible to "violate" a sanction-game, a game evidenced by the IBan's misrepresented diffs and by my response to them at ANI Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1051#Pasdecomplot. Collaborative editing does not mean being forced into "hooping" Chinese propaganda, but Barkeep's reasoning suggests it does. Collaboration based on policies means everyone is subject to the policies. If administrators are not subject to policy, and if policy only applies to recent editors (those not liking PRC or US police POV shoved into orifices, POV contrary to RS and to BLP standards at numerous Tibetan Buddhist pages, and at Killing of George Floyd- where a severe example of a BLP violation includes the mention of alleged "hooping" that denigrates a victim just lynched by the US police), wiki cannot be a collaborative project but rather and unfortunately only another propaganda tool, while it's policies are available to be used simply as sanction-game tools to cull certain editors. The pretence has been worn through. As a volunteer, I need to be able to edit and correct minority opinions and fringe views without harassment and games. And, as a volunteer, I don't promote propaganda. Please, remove the block and remove the repeatedly abused TBan. Thanks. Decline reason: WP:NOTTHEM. You were blocked because you violated your editing restriction and aren't able to edit collaboratively. Any unblock request would need to demonstrate either that you didn't do this or that you won't do it in the future. The key word here is "you". Accusations that a long list of other people have done all sorts of disruptive things don't say anything about you or your behaviour, except that it suggests you probably aren't going to be a collaborative editor if unblocked. Similarly complaints that the editing restriction was unjust/invalid/gaming aren't relevant, except to suggest that you probably won't abide by it if unblocked. You can appeal editing restrictions, but while they're in place you need to abide by them. I have to agree with the blocking admin that this edit was a violation of your editing restriction as it speculates that an editor you have differences with is acting that way because of a severe mental illness. This would be highly inappropriate even if there wasn't an editing restriction on you "commenting on other editors' motivations". Hut 8.5 18:20, 30 January 2021 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. Pasdecomplot (talk) 13:57, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Declined unblock requestThanks for responding Hut 8.5. Your userpage presents the offer to tell you if you've made a mistake, so here are the reasons presented in good faith: Barkeep49's reasons for the indef block are not supported. It alleges its reasons are "for violation of your editing restriction" and alleges "combative edits"; In a brief and imprecise note, Barkeep49 alleges related reasons, but has declined repeatedly to explain these reasons. The only reason clearly cited is a diff. Although the reasons that diff is problematic are now definitely understood, the diff itself does not violate the specific TBan. It may have violated other norms but not the TBan. Content disputes are at the center of the TBan and at the center of the blocks for allegedly violating the TBan. Admin tools should not be used to resolve content disputes.
I've already stopped the behaviors mentioned at the ANI, before the ANI was made. Remember, no individual admins would grant a sanction. But at this juncture, I can only treat this talk as if it was ANI, since I'm blocked from editing there, to address the motivations of other editors in a need to defend myself from their false claims and abuses: Numerous allegations of my own motivations, direct rudeness, combative edits and atmosphere, refusals to edit collaboratively and/or blanked and deleted content and references. These incidents I've thoroughly detailed in diffs. As is apparent, the situation is out of control. After always accepting I was at fault, I have repeatedly changed. As hostilities intensified, requests for help have been ignored or denied and the deeper problems became more apparent. Now, I'm fully aware I am not the problem, whereas entrenched minority POV is the huge problem. NOTTHEM cannot apply when these issues are about THEM and their inserting, without sanctions and in fact with support, pro-Chinese POV. Of course wiki's editors have different POV's, but the entrenched POV runs directly to certain admins which are enforcing Echo chambers in topic areas, such as Tibet and Tibetan Buddhism, that furthermore subjectively omit recognized RS. To describe an echo chamber it's inherently necessary to describe 'THEM'. (How many other editors have been culled at this similar point, where naivety gives way to experience of the echo chamber?) Another more simple question: If there are 1,115 admins, why has a single administrator, Valereee, constantly harassed my particular edits and contributions, blocked me and sanction-gamed repeatedly for the previous six months? If that doesn't seem odd to any other administrator, the problem is deeper than it appears. Pasdecomplot (talk) 23:42, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
UTRS 40665UTRS appeal #40665 has been closed. I'm sorry, but I cannot unblock you at this time. You have drastically understated the reasons behind your TPA removal. You violated your topic ban. Full stop. Nothing attempting to excuse or justify that changes the TBAN violation. You have gone on here to blame others in an effort to justify your behavior, as you did on your talk page. You have gone on here, as you did on your talk page, to accuse others of misconduct. This is not acceptable. In the relevant ANI thread, Valaree wrote, "My concern is solely the unwillingness to assume good faith and focus on the edits rather than making accusations about the other editors’ motivations." Based on what I've read, I cannot fault that assessment. I must warn you that should your next UTRS appeal 1) not address the reasons for your block, 2) and/or continue to attempt to shift blame, you may lose access to UTRS. Please reread the Guide to Appealing Blocks. You can use the link on your talk page. Thank you. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:50, 20 February 2021 (UTC) |
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