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I'm trying to improve the article not argue with you. After discussion with SandyGeorgia, it was suggested that I contact you and see if your concerns for FA have been addressed. If so, please change your "oppose" conclusion. Fnlayson and I, as well as others, have done a lot of fixing since your comments on the FAC. Your change of heart regarding FA is essential. Thank you.
Please note that the article isn't finished with the FA. It will receive continued updates. Your thoughts are continually welcomed, at least by me. Also note that several other articles have FA stars but aren't nearly as good as the 747 article. Let's work together for FA! Archtransit (talk) 22:15, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
I'd love to. However, issues like editors favouring the aircraft project guidelines (which is not officially an MOS subset) rather than the MOS troubles it from reaching FA. That's one of my reasons why I'm still opposing. Other than that, it is pretty good, but can be expanded. I have ~4000 old newspaper articles at my disposal right now, one of which describes Lockheed proposing a 900-seat, triple-deck passenger version of the C-5 Galaxy. 哦，是吗？(O-person) 23:03, 28 December 2007 (GMT)
How about putting a comment using your own words above: Support and Oppose it is pretty good (so support). The use of aircraft project guidelines (which is not officially an MOS subset) rather than the MOS troubles it from reaching FA (so oppose).
I can't support and oppose at the same time. There being some unaddressed issues still on the table, I can only oppose until they have been addressed. 哦，是吗？(O-person) 21:53, 29 December 2007 (GMT)
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Okay, there are a few things you didn't touch on. I'm thinking specificly of when you said it was a poorly written article.
Please elaborate. - ~VNinja~01:17, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, the biggest focal point is that it is too short. It needs to have lots of history, ownership, etc. in prose, as the article at this point is just a bunch of lists and trivia. Hope that clears some things up. 哦，是吗？(O-person) 01:25, 28 December 2007 (GMT)
That does help, but I found all the history I can. I went to the restaurant site, which only gave me limited information on the topic, and the offical website history. I really don't know anywhere else to look.
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I've been trying to figure this one out for what seems years now, and I just wanted to ask you, seen as I saw it on yours :P – how do you get GMT in your sig? Thanks in advance. Best, Rudget.16:16, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
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But you must have skipped through the diff too quickly :-p Anyway, I tried to report the problem in the talk page, maybe the bot creator can fix it. --Sgt. Salt (talk) 23:32, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Well golly gee, why would I ever say no to a Wikibeer? A nice alcoholic beverage always helps the day go down easy. -- NORTHtalk15:52, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
