User talk:Mr. Vernon/Archive 2

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I am sorry

I am sincerely sorry for posting a fake page, and wasting your time. I assure you it will not happen again ): EnycesFinestx (talk) 01:09, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The_Gekko_-_Wall_Street's_to_Main_Street's_Ultimate_Power_Shirt

Hello. You nominated my page The_Gekko_-_Wall_Street's_to_Main_Street's_Ultimate_Power_Shirt for deletion. I just wanted to let you know that I will have the correct references in a couple of days. I posted the page live so the people I created the page for could see it. If you would like, I could send you the finalized page once I get the correct references. Also, did I upload the image wrong? Thank you. SRELY&P —Preceding unsigned comment added by SRELY&P (talk • contribs) 04:59, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Help

Hello. I tried to create a page for control4. It was deleted so i deleted the marketing stuff from the page and posted it again but now its blocked and i was given a warning. I dont understand why the creation of the control4 page was blocked. It provides models and information to consumers on the products. it is not promoting the sale of them. I tried to make the page have information like this page [[1]] i dont understand what the difference is. I am new here and have read as much as possible but need help. Please tell me what i did wrong and what i can do to fix this and get the control4 listing actvice.. Thank you - Kevin - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackwiredesigns (talk • contribs) 03:41, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mob Wars

It's been nominated. Not sure if you knew. Nancy^talk 12:15, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Typo redirect How to publish on wikipedia

Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on How to publish on wikipedia, by another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because How to publish on wikipedia is a redirect page resulting from an implausible typo (CSD R3).

To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting How to publish on wikipedia, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Feel free to contact the bot operator if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot, bearing in mind that this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion; it does not perform any nominations or deletions itself. To see the user who deleted the page, click here CSDWarnBot (talk) 01:10, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

No prob!

I tell you, I just want to tear my hair out over this sort of thing. I used to write ad copy and I won a few awards for my efforts. I wish to heaven I could make people understand that this site is totally lame as an advertising medium. Oh, well. We persist.  :) --PMDrive1061 (talk) 03:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Kaelyn

An article that you have been involved in editing, Kaelyn, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kaelyn. Thank you. B.Wind (talk) 07:38, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Chicken Wing

If you have a problem with me, talk about it with me, don't talk about me behind my back.— Dædαlus ^Contribs 22:05, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Mr. Vernon, I appreciate your concern in this matter. I'd prefer not to discuss it though. I figure not everyone can get along with every editor. My reasoning for not wanting to address the editor in question would probably only make things worse if I explained it. I prefer to just create articles and edit them, and I can't do that if I am being dragged to the WP:ANI or getting blocked. Chicken Wing (talk) 23:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

WP:DICK

I suggest you read through the above link, because what I posted on the ANI was not an attack, it was letting CW know what he was being a jerk. The only reason he won't respond to me isn't because he has some sort of policy, it's because he thinks I'm an idiot. He made that very clear when I decided to disagree with him about his proposal to change the blocking policy. So, instead of taking a side without knowing the full story, not to mention talking about me behind my back, take the time to review all the material.— Dædαlus ^Contribs 06:06, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

First, get a grip. Maybe he just doesn't want to argue with you, because you have been argumentative from what I've seen of your behavior in the AfD. I don't care about your prior drama with him. Second, you were talking about me behind my back over at Gwen's talk page [2], so don't act all high-and-mighty about it. Take Gwen's advice and chill. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 06:21, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I didn't mention you, I mentioned an edit you made, about me, behind my back. I was not asking her how I should deal with you, I was asking her what I should do, so don't make it into something it isn't.— Dædαlus ^Contribs 07:04, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Whatever, I'm not getting dragged into your issues with other editors, and apparently paranoia over someone "talking about you behind your back." If you have issues with me, take it up with WP:AN. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 07:12, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Paranoia? You did talk about me behind my back, period. You opened a thread about me, on another user's talk page, that's called talking about someone behind their back.— Dædαlus ^Contribs 07:24, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Tagging of NetWaiting et al. for Speedy Deletion

I don't think A7 can be applied for this article. It appears to be a pre-installed application that comes with certain computers. By the way, I was glad to see the userbox saying you don't support Nazism, if I hadn't seen it I would have assumed otherwise.

Just kidding of course. :) Xenocide^Talk^|^Contributions 02:09, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Check out the user's contributions: [[3]]. FYI, he's not exactly reliable. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 02:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Regardless of his other edits, this article would appear to be legitimate. As it is sourced, though not necessarily reliably, I would have to think that this would not apply for speedy deletion in any case. Adding that this article's subject appears to be notable, I would think that at worst this article should be applied for AfD or merged with the appropriate Dell computer's article, and at best kept independent. Xenocide^Talk^|^Contributions 02:22, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Lag (company)

I think you gave this final warning to Samlaptop85213 (talk · contribs) in error. The CSD tag was removed by StealthPanda (talk · contribs), who was not the creator of the article. Could you strike out that warning? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 07:17, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

(Responding to talkback template) Might as well strike it out, I have indef'ed Samlaptop85213 for a pattern of disruption rather than any one violation. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:36, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Rex Armistead

I'm rather surprised at this nomination.

Rex Armistead has been a red link in several articles surrounding the Starr report, the Arkansas Project and the suicide of Vince Foster. He was a notable participant in the Jackson State killings, the Mississippi State Sovereignty Commission and in controversies in the election of governor Bill Allain. He is covered in several books on both the Mississippi segregation era and in the attempts to smear Bill Clinton in the 1990s. In the article I put up there are fourteen different reliable sources alone that mention him. He pops up all over the place.

Yes, the article makes him sound like a bad man, but that's what he appears to be, and that's what the judges in Armistead v. Minor said was substantially true. The original trial was thrown out because the judges claimed his reputation was so bad anyway, libel wasn't possible.

I'm assuming good faith on your part, but did you actually look at the details of the article, including the citations?VsevolodKrolikov (talk) 06:08, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Just so others don't get left out, I've copied this section and the one on my talk page to the article talk page to create a single conversation. Many thanks for your willingess to debate the issue.VsevolodKrolikov (talk) 06:44, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Gloomy Candy

Please give me a little more time I'm having coding problems

Black Rose (talk) 06:42, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

VERNON, give me some advise before you take any action! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manoloberetta (talk • contribs) 16:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Nicole Levin

Just a courtesy notice on Nicole Levin. You had tagged this as a G11 speedy and another admin deleted it. The article's creator asked for a review, and I'm not seeing the unambiguous promotion in the article, so I restored it. However, notability is not at all clear, so if you still think it should go, feel free to take it to AfD. (I'm assuming the creator will contest a prod.) Cheers!--Fabrictramp | talk to me 15:05, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Jeanie Cunningham

Hi Mr. Vernon, I stumbled across the page Jeanie Cunningham, which I see you have tagged a few times for speedy deletion as an article about a musician not indicating the importance of the subject. Based on my reading of WP:BAND and of the article itself, it seems that the author's creator has established a sufficient enough claim of notability to prevent the article's immediate deletion under CSD A7, so for the time, I am removing the CSD tag while I look for valid secondary sources supporting the subject's notablity. If none can be found, I'll PROD the article or send it to AFD. I just wanted to explain why I was removing the tag. Best wishes! Rising*From*Ashes (talk) 09:38, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

AHHHHH

You're too fast. This is the forth time you beat me to put speed delete tag. Anyway good work, but I'll beat you to it next time. LOL.--Fire 55 (talk) 01:00, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

You also beat me to reporting that user. --Fire 55 (talk) 01:04, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Fur-Piled

Hello Mr. Vernon, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of Fur-Piled - a page you tagged - because: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. Ale_Jrb^talk 10:51, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Not Inappropriate

There is absolutely nothing inappropriate about the term Dunkus Squat and should not be deleted. Unless, of course, you have some moral authority that enables you to decide the dialect of all regions. The words, nor the definition, have any inappropriate meanings.

It's fairly apparent you consider yourself in extremely high regard and have the ability to discern worthy from unworthy articles; appropriate from inappropriate text; and important from wasteful dialogue! Let me assure you, nobody is considering you to be of any importance. Find a new little hobby to help get through the boredom of unemployment.

Regards,

Scott Peters —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scott shelli (talk • contribs) 22:46, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Sod off. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 00:00, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Norwegian local elections, 2011

Hello Mr. Vernon, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I contested the speedy deletion of Norwegian local elections, 2011 - a page you tagged - because: Contains sufficient content to be a stub. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. Tim Song (talk) 16:06, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Issues with poultry farming

Can you explain your NPOV concerns with the Issues with poultry farming article on its talk page? Cheers. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 05:30, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Scared Scriptless Improv

Just a friendly note on Scared Scriptless Improv. I declined the speedy request because it's not fundamentally an advert. If you still think it should go, AfD would be the way to go on this.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 15:56, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

MSupply

Just a friendly note on MSupply. I declined the speedy deletion request because A7 specifically excludes software. If you think it's not notable, try prod or AfD. Thanks! --Fabrictramp | talk to me 16:17, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/D.E.L.T.A. Rescue

I have found new information on the organization, would you consider closing the AFD? I will watch your page. thank you. Ikip (talk) 03:37, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

thank you. I appreciate your response. Ikip (talk) 05:57, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

thank you. :) Have a great week.

		The Barnstar of Peace
		The Barnstar of Peace is awarded to users who have helped to resolve, peacefully, conflicts on Wikipedia. This barnstar is awarded to Mr. Vernon, for his dedication to comprimise and his ability to work with other editors to come up with amicable solutions which satisfies everyone. Thank you for withdrawing the AFD. You valiant efforts to the project are appreciated. Ikip (talk) 19:06, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

ECU Silver Mining Inc

Hello and thanks you Mr. Vernon (And sorry for my english.

You say that the ECU page is a conflict of interest. Please, it's okey, no Copyright violations, no conflict of interest. ECU is a big company. They products more than 700kilogram Dore bar by month. They need a page in Wikipedia in the same level like others big companys (Coca Cola, Ford...)

Thanks to re-evaluate my situation.

Constraintsolver (talk) 04:03, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of "ePiq"

Hi! EPiq was speedy-deleted - having read the definition of A7 ("no indication of importance or significance"), I am unsure of how to satisfy this criterion. The ePiq Society has existed for a number of years, currently has around 100 members in various countries, and been referenced by a good number of web pages. Its significance to non-members is that it provides a framework to discuss matters of interest to individuals of verified high intelligence, and forms an outlet for the exchange of experiences specific to this section of the general population. Would including any of this information be acceptable as an "indication of importance or significance", or even amount to notability?

Thanks for your time - Tz 98 (talk) 03:33, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

dr Mr Vernon

Hello! I understand there were issues regarding my 'the location of heaven essay'. yes i understand there were no sources, but indeed it is all fact, and also it ties many things together, such as religion and science. yes i know it was just MY religion, however though if you take the time to look there is a lot of evidence to back it up. i just thought the world could look at the world...no, universe, with fresh eyes. I understand that, yes i will be persecuted because of my beliefs, but i dont care. people need to know some of my statements and thoughts, because one day, you may find that they are true. TheULTRASTICKMANZ (talk) 00:45, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Dysfunctional M&Ms

Thanks for the tag, I spent something like 10 minutes trying to figure out exactly what was wrong with the article, when I realized maybe I was just having a blonde moment. I knew something was wrong but couldn't figure out how to nominate for deletion. elgnomo^talk 16:19, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Why did you delete my page?

I am new to Wikipedia and I created my page for a campaign. What was your justification for deleting it? 04:13, 6 June 2010 (UTC)InfiniteGlory10

That doesn't make any sense to me, I am just trying to make a political page. The information I posted was the issue I stand behind. I was notable in the sense that I was being true to my vlaues on the page. I am not in to the whole... links and rebuttals... I just wanted to create a page for myself, which you recommended for deletion. I want to know what you thought was un-notable about it. InifiniteGlory10 (talk) 04:22, 6 June 2010 (UTC) InfiiteGlory10

Who are you

stop sending me bull messages, and what is inappropriate articles? and stop acting like wiki admin.Naz45228517 (talk) 04:36, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Innovatology

Mr. Vernon, thank you for your input on my post for the new science of Innovatology. It is good that you work diligently to challenge new entries to insure validation. The same collaborative concept that led to the world's great contribution to recorded humanity with Wikipedia is the driving force behind Innovatology. The purpose for this recorded detail on Innovatology is to help promote an understanding and a human evolutionary movement to increase the world's creativity capacity. Wikipedia is the ideal repository for the collective information gathering on this new science. Now that the movement has begun, future generations will benefit greatly from the chronicles of its progress and documentation of its success. Your help in making this key recording of historical advances in the creative conscious of the world is most welcome. Thank you. Bill Teller —Preceding unsigned comment added by Billteller (talk • contribs) 15:22, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Why did you delete my page?

Why did you delete my page? I am new to wikipedia and I created a page for a public figure in my community and you said it wasn't relevant. Who are you to say what is relevant or not? What if I was to say that a European politician wasn't relevant to me and there for his page should be deleted? catotac —Preceding unsigned comment added by Catotac (talk • contribs) 04:52, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

You are right, you did not delete it. Also, why do you think I am Evan Jovanovic? I am infact a person who believes he is important enough to have a page on wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Catotac (talk • contribs) 04:58, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

You are correct, I haven't created any other articles. This is because I never thought a Wikipedia membership would be useful until I came to the realization that Evan deserved a page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Catotac (talk • contribs) 05:17, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Explain Plz

Mr Vernon, I noticed that u have put my page Bird Group in speedy deletion. Can u plz explain me the logic behind it? coz i have seen pages like this created in wikipedia. its just an informative page like any other.. and if you say that i cant create a page for a company n all then what is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wipro_Technologies doing there? i can give u a 100 examples of such pages.. then y have u put my page of Bird Group in speedy deletion?? if u say that its promoting a business well then so is wipro technologies page, so is wipro infotech page, so is IBM page, so is microsoft. y is the rule diff for me and these other corps?

Ambirdin (talk) 06:41, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Because the article you created was a promotional advertisement, whereas Microsoft is a objective encyclopaedic entry. S.G.^(GH) _ping! 10:44, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

個體為本模型 listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect 個體為本模型. Since you had some involvement with the 個體為本模型 redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). TJRC (talk) 23:46, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

totally lost

Hello Mr Vernon, recently created a bio page for Jamilah B Creekmur. She's ex COO of of the largest online blogs AllHipHop.com, and an author as she's releasing a book this Summer. Please tell me your reason for deleting, and/or what edits I need to make thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Suganique (talk • contribs) 16:48, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Substance

Were There No Enough Substances Is It Messing. I Follow Ever Rule And Guidelines —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anaikin14 (talk • contribs) 06:13, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Dub'l Duck

Hey Mr. Vernon, thanks for the welcome cookies! I really only have one question; there is literally no way for me to cite my information. I hope that's alright? I added pictures so it wouldn't immediately get deleted, and I assure you it's legitimate. I hope you had a chance to read the whole page, because the fact that there are so few is the reason there is no information about them.

Zacchæus (talk) 04:31, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Advice and detailed description how to post my career biography

Hello,

I would like to have a page (article, or whatever it should be called) to be posted on Wikipedia about my career.

I am a notable musician and feel my biography should be on Wikipedia. I've also had several requests from colleagues and fans for it to be posted. I see that many of my colleagues have their biographies posted on Wikipedia (John Abercrombie, for example, and I would like my page to be of similar structure), and would like to know specifically how you suggest I go about getting my page included that would satisfy Wikipedia's rules, regulations and criteria. I understand I cannot post my own biography. Please tell me who you suggest would be the best source to post my biography on Wikipedia, so that it does not get deleted by an editor such as yourself.

I would like to also say that my career as a musician is proven to be notable, and a look at my website at http://www.terrysilverlight.com will show all the publications that have written about me, and all the work that I have done that has been published, successful, and notable. Thank you.

Fjwihjs (talk) 17:36, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Nino Live

What is your comment about this article--Wipeouting (talk) 03:53, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Dr Kevin Lau

Hello Mr. Vernon. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Dr Kevin Lau, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. Ale_Jrb^talk 11:52, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

STOCKERY

Probably be just as fast to tag it db-spam: '...it does nothing but promote some entity or product and would require a fundamental rewrite in order to become encyclopedic.' HalfShadow 06:36, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Regarding deletion of Newgen Software Technologies

Hi Vernon, I read the comments regarding the deletion of my article on Newgen Software Technologies. I can edit the content and add more relevant links if you like. Most of the reference links were press releases and very valid public sources. I would request you to reconsider your decision. The sole aim of the article is to provide information and not to promote any of its services or products. Imroz.adeeb (talk) 13:50, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Acid-Thrush

Hi. I have declined the speedy deletion on this, reluctantly, because A7 doesn't apply to fictional elements like this. If the source were a web-comic one might argue that it met the "web content" element of A7, but I'm not sure this one has even got as far as the web; a quick "findsources" search doesn't find anything significant about the weapon, its inventor, the comic or the author. So it certainly fails WP:N, and I have PRODded it. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 18:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Masjid Annur Islam Center - Sacramento

Hello, I've reverted your speedy, since the article asserts notability as the largest mosque in California. Thanks, Empty Buffer (talk) 03:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Eric Freeman (writer)

Mr. Vernon, concerning the deletion of Eric Freeman (writer), are you saying this needs to be totally written by someone else? Or just needs to be more significant (which I can do)? Everything on the page can be verified via Lifestreaming and Head First (book series) 24.16.253.11 (talk) 05:29, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Basically, yes. Read WP:AUTOBIO, which talks about why. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 05:37, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I get it (and read the link), but I'm stating facts that are already distributed throughout wikipedia, there is nothing subjective about "person X wrote book Y". 24.16.253.11 (talk) 05:43, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Well, it's subjective if you think you are notable enough to have an article about yourself on Wikipedia. WP:BIO has some useful guidelines on what counts. You really need to show more than just co-authoring a few books - are you personally the subject of articles, etc.? Just because the book may be notable, doesn't mean you are. Make sense? --Mr. Vernon (talk) 05:51, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Understood, your page Lifestreaming lists me as a co-inventor of the Lifestreaming concept used across the industry. 24.16.253.11 (talk) 05:57, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Right. Lifestreaming certainly should have a page, and you should be mentioned as co-inventor. But notability isn't inherited; the notability of Lifestreaming doesn't make you notable. Give another example: I worked on a piece of software which met notability guidelines, and has a page here, as does the professor who ran the software project. That doesn't make me notable, though. Not that I mind :) --Mr. Vernon (talk) 06:02, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

And you are making the Lifestreaming (worthy) vs Eric Freeman (writer) (not-worthy) judgement based on what criteria?24.16.253.11 (talk) 06:08, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Please read WP:NOTABILITY on general notability guidelines and WP:BIO in particular for people. Lifestreaming has the secondary sources and depth of coverage listed as listed in the Notability guidelines. I can't find that depth of coverage on you, sorry. Besides, as mentioned before, you should not be writing articles about yourself. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 06:13, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

There's plenty out there. 24.16.253.11 (talk) 06:19, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi there - Mr. Freeman. Welcome to Wikipedia. I heard that you were having troubles, and I hope that I might be able to help you a bit.

Firstly, please make sure you always log in to edit things, even when just leaving messages - so we see it's from Erictfree, rather than 24.16.253.11. It saves me getting all confused.

I'm honoured to 'meet' you, as I find this whole idea of lifestreaming very interesting. I hope we'll get a chance to discuss it more.

Now, about this 'notability' stuff. It's really nothing personal; 'notability' has a very specific meaning on Wikipedia, and we define it as, "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the source". Please look at that link - that is the key to the whole thing, it really is. For any subject - be it a person, a company, a band, species of animal, or any of the other thousands of subject types - the requirement is the same. What it boils down to is, the need for several reliable sources, such as newspaper articles, books, magazines, etc - with substantial information about the specific thing the article is about.

A 'reliable source' is something with a "reputation for fact-checking and accuracy", something with "editorial control" - and, to show notability, it needs to be independent too. We don't have black-and-white rules, but I'm sure you can understand that a home webpage is not enough.

So - something like an article in the Times newspaper, about a person, would be one good source - but we do need several. I advice people starting an article to look for sources first, and as a rule of thumb, if they can't find 3 or more good-quality reliable sources, then the subject probably is not 'notable' in Wikipedia terms.

And that, in a nutshell, is the primary problem with the article.

IF you think that you can show this 'notability', then there are a few other concerns. As the subject of the article, you have a conflict of interest - and we strongly advise against writing it yourself. It is very, very hard to be neutral, and to stick to verifiable facts from reliable sources - there are so many things that you, naturally, just know are true - but sadly, we cannot accept claims that we can't check - which means we need references.

I have two bits of advice;

• Before working on an autobiography, edit some other articles - on any subject at all. You'll soon learn more about the way Wikipedia works, and you'll be in a much better position to then deal with the tricky business of COI. There's plenty of articles that need work - try here, for example.

• Secondly, please talk to us live, with this link - just put in a nickname, and click 'connect'. It's often easier to explain things 'live'.

I certainly hope you'll help us make Wikipedia better, and I'll do everything I can to help you. Hope to speak soon. Chzz  ►  06:51, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you these are great suggestions. Apologies I didn't realize I was logged out. I will also look at the sample links. There are plenty of articles that can be referenced (Technology Review, WIRED, etc.). It sounds like I should really have someone else provide these rather than me? Erictfree (talk) 07:56, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Eleanor Tennant

I've declined the speedy deletion tag you placed on the above-captioned article; my understanding is that there is a claim of notability in the article sufficient to do that, because someone competing as a professional tennis player meets the requirements of WP:ATHLETE. You are of course welcome to nominate this article for an articles for deletion discussion; should you require assistance with that, please feel free to leave me a note. Best of luck with your future contributions. Accounting4Taste:talk 17:14, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

i didnt add that image.. it was already in wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.154.172.34 (talk) 09:47, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

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Robert J. Bentley

Hello. Looks like some anonymous IPs are blanking out the majority of the Robert J. Bentley article. I have been trying to work on taking out commentary and ensuring neutrality but deleting most of the article on the grounds that it is "not sourced" seems iffy. As the material is not controversial, sourcing to the campaign website should be adequate right? Anyway, guess I am at my 3 revert limit, so maybe this is worth taking to a noticeboard. Thanks! Boromir123 (talk) 18:06, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Invitation to a discussion

Hello, Mr. Vernon. You have new messages at Talk:Robert J. Bentley.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

TFOWR 18:54, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

"Vandalism/Test"

Did you even bother to read the edit summary I wrote?

Right now, Stanley Watras does not redirect to anything explaining what, who, or anything else, about Stanley Watras. The name isn't even mentioned.

Accusing me of "vandalism" for changing the article to the last version that actually did is outrageous, as is changing it back to a redirect that leaves the reader completely confused and uninformed. If you don't like that the article exists, get it deleted, don't change it to a random redirect.--66.149.58.8 (talk) 00:48, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

The consensus on Talk:Stanley_Watras was that the redirect should be put in place, and they explain why. If you have an issue with that, you are more than welcome to discuss that on the Talk page, or read Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution. Thank you. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 00:54, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

There was no "consensus" on the talk page, EEng said he was going to do it and did it, without input. Nobody made any comments, likely because few people knew it was being done. Since when has it been "vandalism" to undo a change that's clearly wrong, simply because the person who did it announced they were going to do it on the Talk: page?

Let's look at what you've done here:

* You've made a bogus accusation of vandalism against me

* You've asserted that there is a consensus about what the article should be and that nobody should change it, when no discussion has ever taken place.

* You've reverted the page to a link that does not, in any way, explain what Watras is, effectively turning the article into an almost random redirect, leaving the reader completely confused.

Respectfully, knock it off. I don't appreciate being slandered here, and I fail to see why you're so hell-bent on making Wikipedia, objectively, more confusing and less informative (which you have to admit is what you've done by changing the article to redirect to a page that does not discuss or even mention the subject of the article.) --66.149.58.8 (talk) 01:07, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Point made. I will nominate the redirect for deletion. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 01:11, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Tieleman is more notable than you are

I read through your speedy deletion nomination and your rationales for the AfD, and also see that you wish to persist in having this bio of one of BC's most notable contemporary journalists and political figures deleted - for reasons which don't seem to ahve much more to do than with rigid interpretations of badly-written WP:Bio guidelines and the issue of what is and isn't a verifiable/reliable source....it's not surprising that the mainstream media in BC mbarely mention Mr. Tieleman, he's one of their most outspoken critics.....I'm not sure who you are or why you've aimed your deletion-crazy sights on this bio, but BC is a heavily politically charged place and if you're not involved in BC politics you should butt out and read the content, rather than obsessing over wiki-"rules". If you are from BC, shame on you and I have to wonder what your political motivation is; actually no, I don't have to guess, it's clear as day. If you're not from BC and just don't know about this guy, or about the political crises that he's one of the few reporters being honest about, let me tell you you're out of your depth and should take your admin powers elsewhere.....and I don't care a fig for wikiquette or "behave welcomingly" when I see inane attempts to challenge the notability of genuinely and importantly notable figures. Either you're a political operative, or you're just politically uneducated. Here's a summary of who Tieleman is, at least in part:

Another person who has raised questions regarding the RCMP’s handling of the investigation is Bill Tieleman. Tieleman is a political columnist and left-wing political strategist who has written extensively about the B.C. Rail investigation ever since the RCMP conducted an unprecedented raid on the B.C. Legislature on Dec. 28, 2003.

In December 2007, in a bizarre incident reminiscent of past RCMP dirty-trick campaigns, Tieleman returned to his office to find it ransacked and materials related to B.C. Rail pulled from his filing cabinets and placed prominently on his desk. Tieleman regarded the break-in as an attempt at intimidation by persons unknown who were obviously very unhappy with his in-depth coverage of the RCMP’s investigation.< http://www.themarknews.com/articles/1855-tracking-the-b-c-rail-trial>

But that's just about BC Rail, he's also been a major NDP cabinet/campaign adviser and has spearheaded, with former Premier Bill Vander Zalm, the massive public resistance to the HST which includes the largest recall petition in Canadian history. Instead of obsessing over rules (badly written rules) you should read the content and get a bloody sense of proportion. Again, if you're not aware of BC politics, you're not qualified to decide if he's notable or not; and if you ARE aware of BC politics, your attempt to get him deleted can only be seen as a POV maneouvre by a political plant who's got himself some admin powers but doesn't deserve them. PS don't threaten me with wiki-action for not being polite; I could care less about talking politely to people who don't behave politely; which if you're knowledgeable about BC politics, you're clearly being impolite by trying to get a major political figure's bio deleted. And if you're not knoweldgeable about BC politics, then just cease and desist and leave the Big Politics to the grown-ups. Escapades like yours give Wikipedia a bad name.....Skookum1 (talk) 03:09, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

AARGH!

i keep edit conflicting with you :) Gotta go, you might want to look at Vivian Thomson Bar Code Symmetry (Talk) 03:51, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

CSD A7 on Nate Costa

Hi, I wanted to let you know that I have challenged your WP:CSD A7 on Nate Costa. In my opinion, the article, even in the state it was in when you nominated it, contained claims of importance sufficient to survive criteria A7. Remember, that all an article needs to do is have a claim of importance, a far lower standard then is applied when considering notability. Additionally, the article had broken references, when considering an article for deletion, you should be careful if you see any citation error messages. A broken citation can make an article appear far worse then it is. Monty₈₄₅ 05:50, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

New Page Patrolling

Thank you for patrolling new pages. Please read WP:NPP to find out how to patrol more accurately, and if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page. Happy editing! --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:02, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

The Sammus Theory

Dear Mr. Vernon: I believe The Sammus Theory to be a notable music ensemble, as they have won the Rockstar Uproar Festival Jaegermeister Battle of the Bands in both 2010 and 2011. In 2011, they were ranked #1 in the state of Arizona and nationally as of the closing date for voting.--Jax 0677 (talk) 01:53, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Copyvio

Hi. Just curious - how do you manage to use the duplication detector report so quickly now that CorenBot is down? Perhaps I can use a tip :) --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:25, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Robin Michael Smith

Hello, you nominated to delete a former U.S. Army sniper who has written a memoir detailing an illegal assassination attempt of one of the last century's leading tyrants, Saddam Hussein. You nominated to delete a person who was told by leading U.S. government politicians including President George Bush to keep the mission a secret after several U.S. soldiers died on the mission including his sniper partner because of poor planning and execution. This is a huge story. Psherburne (talk) 13:52, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

October 2011

Hi Mr. Vernon. Thank you for your work on patrolling new pages and tagging for speedy deletion. I'm just letting you know that I declined your deletion request for a page that you tagged for speedy deletion, because the criterion you used or the reason you gave does not cover this kind of page. Please take a moment to look at the suggested tasks for patrollers and review the criteria for speedy deletion. Particularly, the section covering non-criteria. Such pages are best tagged with proposed deletion, proposed deletion for biographies of living persons, or sent to the appropriate deletion discussion. It was moved to their userpage. I have reverted the csd. Don't worry, I was just doing so as it was userfied. The redirect is being csd'd as R2, though. :) LikeLakers2 (talk | Sign my guestbook!) 15:49, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

• The page was in article space at the time it was tagged, it was subsequently moved to user space, where you found and removed it. I think it was applicable when it was placed. Monty₈₄₅ 15:51, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Meowingtons hax

Hello Mr. Vernon. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Meowingtons hax, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 does not apply to songs. Thank you. Logan _Talk ^Contributions 23:57, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Dear Mr Vernon

	My ZAC BRAY file
	Dear Mr.V Can you please don't delete the page because Zac Bray will become a actor soon Darkknightzac (talk) 03:10, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Is that info from a reliable source? Can we verify it? Thanks!   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 03:14, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

, fwiw, ed, has been blocked for attacks on another ed. DGG ( talk ) 11:52, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Democratic Marxism

I doubt the article will stand at AfD unless actual sources can be found, but I do not see how it remotely qualifies as a hoax,let alone an obvious hoax. Ine of the external sources added by the ed. was a description of a fictional country, but that does not make the entire thing a hoax. DGG ( talk ) 04:05, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

I didn't see any results when doing a gsearch for such a phrase. Mostly the words "Democratic Marxist" that happened to be together for other reasons, but it seemed clear that the user was making this up and it wasn't established, thus hoax. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 05:34, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

New Page Patrolling

Thank you for patrolling new pages. I'm just asking you again to please read WP:NPP to find out how to patrol more accurately, and if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page. Happy editing! --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:56, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

David R. Hertz

My bio for David Hertz has been flagged for deletion. I'm sure there is just a formatting problem. I have permission from Mr. Hertz to use all content images and text included. What is the best way to verify this content and have the page reinstated.

Carson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carsonl87 (talk • contribs) 20:57, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

David Rowe (poet) wiki page

Dear Mr. Vernon,

In the age where the poetry in it's true sense is almost extinct, in the world filled with phonies, there are only few out there who work sincerely and relentlessly to keep the soul of poetry alive. David Rowe lives and breaves poetry. His life is poetry in and out of itself. Without poetry he does not exists. He has spend 20 years of his life writing and reading in New Orleans and around the country as well as abroad. He is a master wordsmith and a yet undiscovered by masses talent of great strength. Please don't delete this page. It is, just like David's life and career, a work in progress.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.137.15.15 (talk) 20:16, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Your corrections

Hi Mr. Vernon. You reverted my edits to Surflight Theatre as vandalism, but I am actually their marketing director and consolidated the two sentences because they were repetitive and made them into one so that they flowed better. Please "un-revert" if that is possible. Thanks! Adelmang (talk) 03:35, 11 October 2011 (UTC)adelmang

(talk page stalker) Wikipedia is not your marketing vehicle - please see WP:ADVERT and WP:COI.   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 03:36, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

9/11 Consensus Panel

I reviewed your speedy deletion tag on 9/11 consensus panel. I actually deleted it at first, but then reverted myself--it's a very close call. It is true that notability is not inherited, and thus the presence of famous people on the panel is not enough to establish notability, but I think it is enough to count as a "claim of significance or importance". As such, I realized that to be sure I should send the article to AfD. You may wish to comment there, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/9/11 consensus panel. Again, I don't actually think the tagging on your part was wrong--this was a very close decision, and unless somebody suddenly finds a bunch of references (which I couldn't find through my own searches), I expect it to be deleted at AfD. Qwyrxian (talk) 06:16, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I do agree it was a tough call, their claims weren't really backed up IMHO (that and a relative lack of notability among the panel members.) --Mr. Vernon (talk) 06:21, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

I also just declined your speedy deletion of Chris Xaver; hosting a tv show carried nationally on multiple PBS channels seems like a claim of importance to me. It is clearly an autobiography, but it may be salvageable. Qwyrxian (talk) 06:30, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

List of computer system manufacturers

It was not my intention to insert a link to the website (I thought it was allowed, then realized it was not), I reverted my URL insertion. Why was the company removed again after doing this? It linked only to the wiki page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SMOKKINU (talk • contribs) 07:02, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Please read WP:SPAM and WP:COI - you are plugging a company you are involved with, as your former account was MainPerformancePC. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 07:04, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

[[

Ok, so I did as I was asked and created a new account. How do I go about adding it to that list? I am new to Wikipedia, so perhaps being a little more informational, and not so much hostile would be helpful to me as a new member here. Can you offer some help/advice? (SMOKKINU (talk) 07:19, 15 October 2011 (UTC))

Rush Genres

I would like to explain I am just trying to stop someone from removing text with a reliable source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamcad01 (talk • contribs) 09:10, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Please read the links on edit warring that I posted to your Talk page. Right now, you are engaged it in which is a violation of Wikipedia policies. That you believe it is a reliable source isn't relevant because Wikipedia operates on consensus, and the consensus is apparently that is is not a reliable source. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 09:14, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Are you saying that one person is the entire consensus just because he's experienced? Also I don't see him getting any warnings for any editing war so how is that fair? Jamcad01 (talk) 09:20, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Apparently you are the only one who believes it is a good source, because many other editors are undoing your changes. Have you tried discussing it on the Talk page like other editors have suggested? Oh and by the way, attacking other editors is also against WP policies. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 09:22, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Your message - Worldwide Spend Your Spare Change Day

Hello Mr. Vernon, I'm new to Wikipedia pages. I received your message but couldn't find the button you referenced to stop the speedy deletion. Please let me know what Wiki rule I have violated. Thank you, Wendy Wikiwsdm (talk) 15:37, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry I did not mean to direct that comment to you I thought you were Wisdom69. (Jamcad01 (talk) 09:23, 16 October 2011 (UTC))

shouldn't have been directed at anyone, we are supposed to be civil towards eachother here!--Lerdthenerd wiki defender 09:26, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Attacking Wisdom69 is still attacking another editor. As I suggested, go to the Talk page and make your case why it should be a source. Other editors can come to a consensus. That's the only way to resolve this situation, but you will have to respect the consensus of WP editors. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 09:27, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Why does it need to be discussed if it is reliably source. No one cares about the Talk page anyway and no one will listen to me because they all are a bunch arrogant arseholes.

Apparently not every one else agrees that it is a reliable source. That is why you take it to the Talk page. And editor attacking is not proper. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 09:34, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Again you are mentioning that one person is the entire consensus. How about you research the source and decide if it's reliable. Also how come Wisdom89 is getting away with Edit Warring? (Jamcad01 (talk) 09:43, 16 October 2011 (UTC))

You clearly cannot be reasoned with, I give up. Enjoy your upcoming timeout for attacking editors. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 09:46, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

I've taken it to the talk page. Happy? (Jamcad01 (talk) 10:11, 17 October 2011 (UTC))

Request for Advise

Hello Mr. Vernon,

I have recently placed up an entry for HEXUS.net. Could you please advise me as to weak areas so that I may focus on finding appropriate sources.

Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by GMScribe (talk • contribs) 15:42, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

October 2011

Hello Mr. Vernon. Thanks for patrolling new pages – it's a very important task! I'm just letting you know however, regarding China IPR SME Helpdesk, that tagging articles for speedy deletion moments after creation as lacking context (CSD A1), content (CSD A3) and articles created through the Article Wizard, is too fast. It's best to wait at least 10 - 15 minutes for more content to be added, and the articles should not be marked as patrolled. Attack pages (G10), blatant nonsense (G1), pure vandalism (G3), and copyright violations (G12) should of course be tagged and deleted immediately. Thanks.

→Στc. 07:09, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Please accept my apology as I have no intention of creating any inappropriate pages. I worked with Gulf PetroLink (Middle East) for 13 years and now migrated to Canada to start a new life. I would like to create a wikipage not only as a gesture of my gratitude and thanks to them but to share scientific and important information to all geoscience community. I am entirely new user to wikipedia and I look forward to your assistance in helping me create a page. Thanks for your cooperation and understanding. Thanks. Geoarabia (talk) 01:18, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

No intention of creating any inappropriate pages

Please accept my apology as I have no intention of creating any inappropriate pages. I worked with Gulf PetroLink (Middle East) for 13 years and now migrated to Canada to start a new life. I would like to create a wikipage not only as a gesture of my gratitude and thanks to them but to share scientific and important information to all geoscience community. I am entirely new user to wikipedia and therefore request not to block my account. I look forward to your assistance and guidance in helping me creating a page. Thanks for your cooperation and understanding. Thanks. Geoarabia (talk) 01:20, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Penoyre & Prasad

Hello Mr. Vernon. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Penoyre & Prasad, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Article claims coverage in reliable sources. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 05:17, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Michael Balderrama

Hi Mr. Vernon. Just to let you know, I didn't think this one qualified for A7 speedy deletion. Paul Erik ^(talk)(contribs) 12:14, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion for Club Soda (live music venue)

Hi Mr. Vernon. I'd like to contest the speedy deletion of the page I created. The reasons mentioned for deletion seem unjustified. I have researched wikipedia to look for similar entries (ones related to music venues in Montreal) and a lot of these venues do have a page created. Club Soda is one of Montreal's most known and respected music venue. It has been opened for nearly 30 years and has greatly participated in the city's cultural growth by hosting over 5000 shows since its opening. It has also been ranked amongst the city's top 5 venues in the past decade by various polls. I strongly believe it has its place on Wikipedia, the same way these other music venues do. Thank you for your time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thefriendattack (talk • contribs) 05:01, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

OK, please go to that page, click on "contest", and provide some cites for this information. You say it's the most well-known and respected music venue, you need to prove that in the article. You may want to read up on WP:NOTABILITY and WP:SOURCES for some advice. Good luck! --Mr. Vernon (talk) 05:21, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! I actually just saw this email...do I have a time limit to provide you with these info? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thefriendattack (talk • contribs) 20:17, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

You don't have to provide it to me, just add it to the article. You should do this when creating it, or someone else may tag it for speedy deletion. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 20:22, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Help searching for awards?

I noticed your input on the Dennis Loo AFD and I wanted to get a little help from you. I've been looking up the various awards that KMulleavy has claimed Loo has won, and I don't see where any of them exist. I listed how the Lindesmith award didn't seem to have been awarded to him, but I haven't yet mentioned that I'm unable to find any trace of the other awards outside of Loo's various pages on the internet. I don't want to keep posting how these awards don't seem to exist because I don't want it to seem like I'm being overly harsh and I also want someone else to search in case I missed something. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 10:48, 27 October 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79

Wow, good catch. I can't find some of his awards either, and one of the claims (his appearing in the NY Times) turned out to be a paid ad. I've added more to the AfD, this is obvious puffery. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 14:51, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!! I'm glad you searched as well. I wanted to make sure that someone else mentioned this so it would make our case better. (Plus to make sure that I wasn't imagining or missing something.) Tokyogirl79 (talk) 03:32, 28 October 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79

Requesting help

Greetings. I don't know how to categorize a situation happening on Collis Potter Huntington's page. One user 81.178.152.88 keeps changing Mr. Huntington's birthday to April from October, even though citations have been placed on the talk page. I left them a message on their user page asking if they wanted to talk about it, and received "No" as an answer.

I am asking for help because I don't know what to do in this case. I don't understand it and I can't stop this person whoever they are from continuing to make this change, as they've been doing for at least the past few weeks. Is there any advice, suggestions or help you can offer? I am writing you because I saw your response to User:Al_Villarruel another wikieditor with issues and thought you might have an idea what to do in this situation. Ellin Beltz (talk) 19:18, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

I found the page on disruptive editing, read the advice for dealing with disruptive editors, and made an entry at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents seeking help. Let's hope for the best. -- Pemilligan (talk) 02:52, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: James A. Black, Jr.

Hello Mr. Vernon. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of James A. Black, Jr., a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Article claims coverage in reliable sources. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 21:45, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Rush

Whoops. Sorry that comment on 2112 was supposed to be aimed at Wisdom 89. Jamcad01 (talk) 08:08, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

The white sheebas

I think you forgot to tag this page for deletion. :) - 220 of ^Borg 09:00, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Apologies, it was re-created almost as soon as it was deleted, explaining the lack of CSD tag. - 220 of ^Borg 11:35, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Respectfully request to undo removal of two links from the Beach Haven NJ page.

Hi, there was a reference to Surflight Theatre and Showplace Ice Cream on the Beach Haven, Nj page that you removed as spam on 10/11. (YOu may recall that you also had me banned for making edits to the Surflight page and removed that page that day as well, because I mentioned to you that I am their marketing director.) I have since read up on the rules for making changes where conflict of interest exist and will not be making any changes without heeding those guidelines first. The theatre is non-profit and my role in marketing is as a volunteer, and I am a resident of Beach Haven. I have only been helping out the theatre for a few months, but have been making improvements to several pages including the Beach Haven page long before any conflict existed, just simply as a resident who is aware of what the main attractions on the island are, and Surflight and Show Place are now conspicuously absent from the listing, as well as from Wikipedia as a whole. Ironically, you can even see Surflight theatre on the right hand side of the photo that is on the Beach Haven page. It is one of the most well known icons for Beach Haven. Please don't punish this landmark theatre by removing them from their rightful place in wikipedia because of my mistake. By the way, the guidelines suggest that an error like I made should be given the benefit of the doubt. I meant no harm, and was not trying to put anything out there that was an advertisement, only trying to give a true represenation of the area where I live, which is a tourist town and full of attractions that many visit annually. If I should be going about this differently, please let me know. Thank you for your guidance and assistance. Adelmang (talk) 16:20, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

First, I didn't ban you. I'm not an admin and don't have that ability. I suggested it because of your conflict of interest in those articles which you admitted to. I understand what you are trying to do, but it sounds - at least to me - like you are interested in creating pages on Wikipedia as part of marketing the theater. Even if you are a volunteer and unpaid. Take a look at WP:COI - it says pretty clearly in the intro that you shouldn't try to promote things that you have an interest in, like the theater. Also, you should ask yourself, do these businesses meet notability guidelines? (see WP:CORP.) Even if there wasn't a conflict of interest, any business on Wikipedia needs to meet those guidelines. Look at the "Audience" section for instance - sources should at least be regional, and if the theater and ice cream shop don't get that kind of coverage, they'll likely be deleted even if you write a neutral article. I'm not saying you should not recreate the article. However, it sounds like you do have a bias, and I think that you would be better served contributing in other ways where there isn't a COI. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 03:17, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for that misunderstanding. I thought it was you who had banned me because the very second that I told you of my relationship to the theatre, I read a comment between you and another person about how I could be wondering about your edit, and at the exact same time, I had lost my ability to edit. So your recommendation must have taken effect immediately. I was disheartened that I wasn't allowed an opportunity to respond or even have dialogue with you about the change, and several pages that I contributed to were instantly deleted (by Fastily?), even though I had only made small edits to some. The ban even affected my ability to edit my own talk page, even though everything I read said that I should still be able to do so. I challenged the ban, or at least I thought I did but it went unanswered for a month. The second challenge was successful, but it took a long time for me to be able to even get back on and discuss the situation with anyone. I feel it is very unfortunate that it is possible for admins to have unilateral control over the site in such a way. Especially without any dialogue or attempt to understand the goals of the contributor, and assumption of guilt over their intentions. To address your other question about audience, the theatre and ice cream parlour definitely meet the regional criteria. There are independent sites that reference the two, there are reviews in Playbill.com, NY Times, Asbury Park Press, Press of Atlantic City, to name a few. Trip Advisor and many other travel rating services have independent info to reference as well. I am interested in restoring the theatre's page that was created long before my wiki login was even a twinkle in someone's eye. The goal of any of my contributions is not for the purpose of marketing, but for giving the landmark entities (not just for the ones I do volunteer work for, but for all of the notable businesses on the island) the representation they deserve on an encyclopedic-type guide that people use when wanting to know facts, stats, history, seating capacity, location, key people, productions, etc. about these businesses. I think you'll find that my edits have not been hyped up or full of salesy language, but more matter of fact. And if and when not, a corrective edit would be much more helpful than a wholesale deletion. After all, I am still learning the site etiquitte, but I would hope that admins would want to mentor and guide editors who are making a reasonable, genuine effort to contribute, not shut them down for their first offense. Thanks for listening. Adelmang (talk) 05:11, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Please see section one of my talk page

and modify your script mediated behaviour accordingly Fifelfoo_m (talk) 07:15, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

What are you talking about? --Mr. Vernon (talk) 03:37, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Your use of automated tools, including dumping text on a user talk page which asks you not to, and directs you specifically to another user talk page controlled by the same user. Fifelfoo (talk) 11:14, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Exactly how am I supposed to modify Twinkle because you voluntarily use multiple accounts to edit but don't want to check the talk pages of all of them? You should talk to the creator of Twinkle. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 16:40, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

If you can't run an automated script with courtesy, perhaps you shouldn't be running an automated script. Fifelfoo (talk) 22:28, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

If you can't bother to check the talk page on multiple accounts, perhaps you shouldn't have multiple accounts. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 22:56, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Blanking my talk page

I would like to explain that I blank my talk page for privacy not to avoid being blocked. (Jamcad01 (talk) 09:06, 18 November 2011 (UTC))

Privacy for what reason? You were clearly deleting warnings/block notices, how is that helping your privacy? Unless you are afraid that someone will see the previous warnings and report you. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 16:41, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

I just don't want people to know about my past history. Honestly I wouldn't want people in real life to know about every conversation I've had in real life... Jamcad01 (talk) 07:15, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Viber

How did you know Viber non or notabe software? I need reference for your reason on Viber article.--คนไทย (talk) 03:59, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

I just need your explain why did you say Non-notable software?it's so easy to say without reference.I don't mind for deletion of article with reasonable.--คนไทย (talk) 04:32, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Which part of WP:N do you think it satisfies?   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 04:35, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

I deleted old link and replaced external link. I understand about WP:N and don't talk about that any more. I come to ask about Non-notable software. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sasakubo1717 (talk • contribs) 07:11, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

New Page Triage engagement strategy released

Hey guys!

I'm dropping you a note because you filled out the New Page Patrol survey, and indicated you'd be interested in being contacted about follow-up work. This is to notify you that we've finally released both the initial documentation about the project and also the engagement strategy, which sets out how we plan to work with the community on this. Please give both a read, and leave any comments or suggestions you have on the talkpage, on my talkpage, or in my inbox - okeyeswikimedia.org.

It's awesome to finally get to start work on this! :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 02:46, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Deletion

See Viber & Norbest how different? b4 u want to make delete any article please try to improve. don't only put DELETE or need other improve u must improve by searching related data --คนไทย (talk) 02:57, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

new page Sierra Cartwright

Dear Mr Vernon

I'm new to this, and probably did it all wrong, but I would like to get in contact with you proofing that I'm not a machine, or scammer, or whatever has caused my first article to be blocked.

I don't understand why a writer with so many books published should not be of interest to wikipedia?

I've read somewhere to not use my real name... please advice if it would be better to reveal who I am.

Thank you in advance for an answer.

Curiousdisposition (talk) 03:32, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

You shouldn't use your real name on here, but if this article is a conflict of interest for you, then you shouldn't be creating the article at all. Read WP:COI which gives the reasons why. In any case, you need to cite the importance of the author; just saying "they are important" is not enough; read WP:AUTHOR. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 03:35, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Thai dessert

Hey, Mr. Vernon, I just wanted to let you know that I declined your speedy deletion nom of the Thai dessert article, opting instead to redirect it to the appropriate section of the Thai cuisine article. Thanks anyway! Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 05:23, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

That works, thanks! --Mr. Vernon (talk) 06:32, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Help instead of haunting would be nice

This help request has been answered. If you need more help, you can ask another question on your talk page, contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page, or consider visiting the Teahouse.

Please do not degrade me, just because of your way of thinking or judging. I love wikipedia since day one, and donate every end of the year a small amount (the best i can) in honor and respect of it. Do not tell me I'm a "sock puppet"!!!
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This account is new, because I could not log in to my old "adonim" because I never received the new requested password, probably because it's so old that I don't even have that email address any longer.!
I may have done it all wrong, but don't treat me like a criminal with bad intention!!
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As for the article I've tried to create: before I could add more info, like birthday and birth city, etc. I got deleted. This writer IS important and of general interest, as she utterly diversities the world, especially the christian US. With over 400 controversial mentions in the media, and nothing short of "Fifty Shades of Grey" (which you DO have in wikipedia!), and being 10 years longer on the market, this does indeed deserve to be mentioned!!

Thanks.!
Kind regards,!
Curiousdisposition (talk) 15:05, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

How can I help you? Electric Catfish 15:10, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Midnight Insanity

Hi! I'm not sure if I'm going about this correctly, but I hope I am.

I see the page I created has been tagged for deletion for copyright infringement because it is the same text that is on a website, www.midnightinsanity.org. Actually, I am the owner of the organization, Midnight Insanity, and wrote the text myself. The website in question is the one infringing. I own the trademark to Midnight Insanity, and am currently in legal battle with the people who own www.midnightinsanity.org for their use of my trademarked name and for impersonating my organization. I can provide proof of trademark if necessary.

MidnightInsanity (talk) 06:24, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by MidnightInsanity (talk • contribs) 06:21, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

OK, read WP:IOWN for more details about how to submit it if you own the work in question. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 07:42, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Woodland Pattern

Hi, Mr. Vernon. I was disappointed to see that you've nominated Woodland Pattern Book Center for speedy deletion, and I just offered a few ideas contesting the nomination on the talk page for the article. I was very surprised to see that no article existed yet for this truly significant organization, so perhaps I created something a bit hastily without sufficiently robust references, but it truly is an important organization in the literary scene. The worlds of poetry and multicultural literature and avant-garde music are not currently well represented on Wikipedia, but that does not mean that these topics are not important parts of an encyclopedic project that aspires to represent human knowledge. I would be very grateful if you would reconsider your nomination, especially the speedy part, since I will be away all day tomorrow and unable to take further action until the weekend. --Jgmikulay (talk) 03:05, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Sure. Please read WP:ORG which talks about what kind of organizations are notable and how to mention that notability. You really didn't do that in the article; an organization being around for 25 years does not make it notable. And actually Wikipedia does a pretty good job of having information on poetry, literature, and music (look at the article on George Crumb for instance, though I'm not sure he's considered avant-garde.) --Mr. Vernon (talk) 03:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I will consult those guidelines more carefully and continue to work on the article. I just added another sentence and a few references that I hope will help. I've written quite a few articles about artworks but this is my first attempt at writing about an organization, so I appreciate your guidance and patience. --Jgmikulay (talk) 03:25, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Trevor Meaney

I contested your speedy nomination, since I think there are credible claims of significance in the article (particularly in the history). Feel free to take to AfD though as it easily could not be notable. Regards! VQuakr (talk) 03:22, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the note! --Mr. Vernon (talk) 03:29, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Redirecting a page

If you redirect a page like you did here, please provide an edit summary so the author knows why you redirected it. I'm not exactly sure how plausible of a redirect it is anyways, A10 may have been more appropriate. Ryan Vesey 14:34, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Moral dilemma (Band) declined

Hi Mr. Vernon. Thank you for your work on patrolling new pages and tagging for speedy deletion. I'm just letting you know that I declined your deletion request for Moral dilemma (Band), a page that you tagged for speedy deletion, under criterion A7 because the criterion you used or the reason you gave does not cover this kind of page. While this page needs significant improvement, and might well not survive an AfD (surely it would not without such improvement) A7 is intentionally quite narrow. Mention of 2 albums and the placement of this group's work in regular rotation are IMO more then enough to raise this above the A7 level. Indeed WP:BAND mentions those as factors that could, if sourced, fully establish notability. Please take a moment to look at the suggested tasks for patrollers and review the criteria for speedy deletion. Particularly, the section covering non-criteria. Such pages are best tagged with proposed deletion, proposed deletion for biographies of living persons, or sent to the appropriate deletion discussion. DES ^(talk) 17:48, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, you seem to be over zealous in the speedy deletion dept.71.23.89.97 (talk) 01:47, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

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new Bill Roy page

Dear Mr. Vernon,

I am brand new to wikipedia and noticed you edited the page "William Burton Roy" that I just created. There are a few problems I can't seem to figure out on photos and "wikifying" it. Could you help please? I was one of Bill's cadets at the academy and noticed he didn't have a page created under his name on the Olympic skeet shooting winners list, so I decided I'd make one for him kind of as a surprise that I will show him this week.

Any assistance to make it a clean copy would be so appreciated. I know you don't have to or likely don't want, but I'm just asking. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ncstorm (talk • contribs) 06:13, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Sure, I can actually help clean it up. One note, be sure to sign your comments (use --~~~~) so that people know who is writing :) --Mr. Vernon (talk) 06:15, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, so much! I'm pushing it here, but there were pictures on the page. Unless this doesn't match a wikipedia standard that I'm unfamiliar with, could they be made functional? If not, you've done enough. Thanks again. Ncstorm (talk) 06:27, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Also, people who would actually look him up would only do so under the name Bill Roy. Is it possible change the name of the page from "William Burton Roy"? Ncstorm (talk) 06:29, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

There already is an article on a Bill Roy (more well known as he is a former Congressman.) I'll add a disambig link so people going to that page can find the one on WBR too. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 06:39, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your constructive criticism

Thanks for your constructive criticism

Dear Mr. Vernon, I appreciate your opinion on my article about Grad Nite, but please don't delete it. I don't understand what you mean as to saying that Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Wikipedia is an online enclyclopedia which I clearly understand, but in my opinion, I don't see how my article relates to a dictionary in any way, shape, or form. I know that you're a more expierienced Wikipedian than I am, but can you cut me a little slack on the matter. I will try my best to make it less like a dictionary than now, but as of now, don't threaten to delete my stuff. I am currently trying to make as much as something you'll find in a senior's guide to social interactions in high school. But anyway, thanks for being a good, honest person on Wikipedia. Sincerely, Dansker333999 Dansker333999 (talk) 00:07, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi Dansker - please read WP:DICTIONARY and let me know if you have any questions after reading that, especially the part about "neologisms." Thanks. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 00:19, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For all of your great work on NPP! Electric Catfish 16:43, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

good, thanks Richlevine00 (talk) 20:58, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

You don't deserve a barnstar. Your deletion of my page without allowing sufficeint time to contest or move it was neither fair nor appreciated! I expect you to undo your vandalism immediately. Useddenim (talk) 21:06, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Tone yourself down. He didn't delete it nor does he have the power to undelete it. I've already requested that Sarah restore the page to your userspace. Ryan Vesey 21:09, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Useddenim, I would have moved it to your userpage but I'm not quite sure if I have the ability to do that. Sorry. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 21:14, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Good job on that quick response time. VoiceIntern (talk) 23:23, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

For this edit, I give you a cup of coffee, so you may continue to energetically fight spam. I dream of horses @ 01:53, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Why thank you, that is very kind! --Mr. Vernon (talk) 04:14, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! --I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 05:38, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Karunakara menon

Hello Mr. Vernon. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Karunakara menon, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Being the director of Kalakshetra is a good enough claim to pass A7. Thank you. — Mr. Stradivarius ^(have a chat) 13:12, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

He's only deputy director, though. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 13:30, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

The claim was that he is the director, and I did see one page that said he was director while searching Google. (Sorry, can't seem to find it again.) Perhaps he only became director recently. In any case, it can't hurt to spend a little more time to get the facts straightened out. Regards — Mr. Stradivarius ^(have a chat) 13:36, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

I've been checking. It appears that deputy director is the highest level of administration in the school. The only reason his title isn't director is that he is under the chairman of the board. He is also director of the South Zone Culture Centre which might improve notability. You're certainly free to take this to AfD, but I'd prefer to see it kept. Sources might be hard to find though. Ryan Vesey 14:07, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

I was looking to find coverage about Mr. Menon in particular; the agencies he is deputy director/director of are certainly notable but is he, just because of his position? --Mr. Vernon (talk) 14:16, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Why was the page insistent IT systems deleted?

Why was the page insistent IT systems deleted? I mean it is a private limited company and I have it's proof of registration with Govt. of India. And we are working since 2010 as mentioned in the page. You could have at least given it a sufficient time for people to rate it. I haven't saved a copy of page too and I have spent 2 hrs to create it. Irshad Alam Shaikh (talk) 02:14, 22 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Irshad Alam Shaikh (talk • contribs) 02:07, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

First, I did not delete the article, I tagged it. You should read WP:NCORP to determine corporate notability guidelines; being around since 2010 does not make you inherently notable. I would read the part about secondary sources. Second, if you do want the article text recovered, you may want to ask an admin on their talk page, like User Talk:Acroterion (as he is the admin that approved the deletion.) Thanks. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 02:18, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Mr Vernon, It is a well settled company and having linked in more than 50 websites. I am new to wikipedia and still not completely aware of notability. But seeing the company's wide experience and business, article was worth giving a chance to be completed according to guidelines.Irshad Alam Shaikh (talk) 02:35, 22 August 2012 (UTC)