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Before I place the tag for MizaBot to get to work, I was concerned about our existing archives and whether they will cause any conflict with the bot? Specifically, I had to move archive pages 1-9 to /Archive 1 instead of /Archive01 etc so there are redirects in place. I also compacted 13 archive pages into the current 7 pages and pages 8-13 are currently blank [1]. In case it matters at this point I believe we will go with a 28 day time period and archive pages at about 200k in size. All the best :) --Brad (talk) 14:55, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How long to start archiving?
I put the tag on my user talk page, and I was wondering how long it took it start archiving.
Here's the code:
"1m"? What's that? The manual clearly states that only days and hours are supported. The bot runs on a daily basis (you really can figure that from its contribs) and will visit your page only if you fix the error. Миша1316:27, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I was wondering if you could take some time out of your schedule to head over to the Heroes (TV series) talkpage and give us an honest peer review. The page has gone through some major changes in the last few months, and it would be fantastic if a prominent editor/contributor like yourself, could head over and give us at the Heroes Wikiproject some sound opinion and ideas on improvements for the page. We have all worked very hard at improving the page, and we need great outside, reliable and trustworthy users to come over and help us improve. I you are interested in joining the peer review discussion with other prominent users/contributors, much like yourself, please follow the link. Thank you very much for your help and your continued effort to improve Wikipedia and its quality! Wikipedia:Peer review/Heroes (TV series)/archive2--Chrisisinchrist (talk) 04:52, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Archiving
I set up the Miszabot Archive code on my Talk Page. Could you check if I have done it right ? as it has not archived anything.
Done. In future please double-check the newsletter when you make significant layout changes. You forgot to close the outer (nav) table with a |} and I had to make a second run with my bot to fix it. Миша1319:01, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the placement of the MiszaBot config template which you altered to prevent the first section ("Read this before proposing new criteria") from ever being archived? Of course you'd know more about the workings of your own bot than I do, but I think it is the intention of the archive system at WT:CSD to not have that first section archived. Happy‑melon18:50, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The template must be placed before the first header as the bot looks for it only in the page introduction. And sections are not archived only if they contain no valid timestamps. Миша1319:08, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Month incrementing...
Just as a question... when MiszaBot archives, doe it use the sig date of the thread or the date the archive is done for %(monthnameshort)s? - J Greb (talk) 23:04, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It uses the last date out of all timestamps (signatures) in the thread. The run time is only relevant in determining the thread's age (for the old(...) function). Миша1317:33, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Someone's been messing with ==thread headers== inside a <pre> environment (and I think also forgot to close the tag), which cause the thread to be decomposed into individual ones. Using an HTML entity that represents the equal sign is a solution (the bot does not have a built-in wikiparser to detect pre and nowiki blocks). Миша1316:45, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The problem was actually in the preceding archiving (diff). Search the diff for "== Heading 1 ==". This was inside <pre> ... </pre> so it was a part of the section at [3]. MiszaBot II caused a misformatted page because it archived </pre> but left an open <pre>. I fixed the problem by moving the start of the section to the archive. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Help please
I had Wernabot which is no longer active. I am trying to set up Misza bot to archive my talk page but I can't seem to do it correctly. I asked for help from my mentor and it's still not working. Would you please help get this to work of my talk page for me? Thanks in advance, --CrohnieGalTalk14:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If you look at User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo#Parameters explained you'll note that even if not specified the bot will use default values for minthreadsleft and minthreadstoarchive. Since minthreadsleft defaults to 5 and you only have 5 threads on your talk page currently, it will not archive. Your talk page meets the minimum of 2 for minthreadstoarchive but archiving these will leave less than 5 threads on the page. So to clarify, the bot will only archive if there are at least two threads older than your setting and there will be at least five threads/sections left on the page when it's done. Hope that helps. 86.21.74.40 (talk) 16:07, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks I understand and I copied this to my mentor who helped me set it up since we both didn't understand if it was working. One more question, should there be a notice on my talk page that it is archiving for me? I've seen others who use Miszabot and they have a box on the top saying so. Thanks so very much, --CrohnieGalTalk17:34, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You can have such a tag, but it's not obligatory. It's more of a courtesy note, but people could "discover" the bot anyway by looking in the page's history. Usually an index of archives (either an {{archive box}} or a custom one like mine) is enough. Миша1319:09, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not a problem at all. Just signal me whenever it's copyedited and ready for delivery and I'll run it. I assume the delivery list is the participant list? Also, is there an opt-out list (if not, is one planned)? Миша1320:51, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much! Yes, the participant list you linked to is the right one. The current opt out list is here. I usually deliver on or soon after the 31st of every month, and the code is == The WikiProject Universities Newsletter: Issue X (MONTH YEAR) ==
where MONTH YEAR is equal to the month and year of the issue (e.g. February 2008) and X is equal to the roman numeral of the issue (e.g. VI). The edit summary should read:
Hiya. I was wondering if you would be able to undelete or restore Image:Wicu1278.jpg and Image:WOIO CBS 19 Cleveland logo.png. I have the source information for the image, but i just dont have the image at this time.
Hello - I've been trying to set up my talk page to have MiszaBot III automatically archive it, but I must have gotten something incorrect as it's still not archiving.
I've read over the help section a few times, but still can't get it to work. Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated. DJBullfish01:23, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'll let you figure that on your own (hint: see where have they been "archived" to). On a side note, it's entirely none of my business what archiving settings people use. Миша1317:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Can images be speedy deleted? Image:Destination X 2008.jpg (which you deleted last week after it went 7 days with no source) has just been re-uploaded by the same editor. Once again he has provided no source (and also applied the wrong license, not that it matters). TJSpyke05:20, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Misza - I'm trying to help my adoptee, Grrrlriot (talk·contribs), set up archiving on her user talk page using your bot. I've been using it for months and I had no trouble setting it up, but I can't seem to make it work for her. Could you have a look and let me know what mind-numbingly dumb mistake I'm making? Sarcasticidealist (talk) 01:02, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, i've been trying to set up MiszaBot III to automatically archive my talk page to anything longer than 3 days (as I used to use Werdnabot, but that has stopped working now and they directed me to Misza. I think I must have gotten something incorrect tho as it's still not archiving anything. I've looked over the help notes, but still not working properly. Any help would be greatly appreciated Timclare(talk)(sign here)00:45, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You've had your rewrite notice up a while now and I was just wondering what the status is. Many are anxiously awaiting your ability to recognize the {{resolved}} template.↔NMajdan•talk14:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the components are written, but works on integrating the bot are somewhat on hold for now as real-life issues aren't leaving me with enough free time. Миша1319:52, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Archive
Misza have i done the configuration correctly, i mainly manually archive my talkpage, but decided that i should let your bot to do but could you check the configuration. TerraWhat do you want?18:56, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't say a thread that's 18 hours old qualifies for archival; even WP:AN/I uses 24 hours and that's an extremely busy forum. Most people use a setting of several days (5 in my case) on their talkpages, if not weeks. But that's your decision to make. Миша1319:48, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Judging from the activity on your talk page, I don't predict it getting long anywhere soon. Besides, the bot won't even touch it unless there's more than a couple threads on it (or unless you adjust the minthreadsleft and minthreadstoarchive parameters; User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo#Parameters explained). Also, not all people visit Wikipedia every day and they might consider it a wikiquette violation if their messages get archived before they have a chance to read the response. But then again, that's your decision, I'm only offering guidance. Миша1320:02, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If you're referring to Image:Gallardo Superlegerra.jpg (why make me guess?), you forgot to remove the "no license" tag after retagging it. That's why OrphanBot removed it from articles. Aditionally, my deletion bot didn't have {{self}} on the list of free license tags. Миша1309:48, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
On the instructions for setting up archiving using your bots, you leave out one teeny tiny important piece of information: When does it kick in? How do we know if it is working? Does it happen immediately? Thanks Rfwoolf (talk) 09:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not that stupid question, but still, you could figure that out from the bots' contribs. They run once daily (twice for AN and AN/I) at preset hours. So, after placing a template, wait until the next cycle. The bot should run, provided of course that there is anything to archive. Миша1321:38, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Misza. I hate to be a wet rag, but I always found bot archival to be mind-numbingly complicated, although I'm usually good with programming stuff. Could you set up the bot archive Commons:Café? If I see you go through with an example, it might help. Thanks a million. 64.178.99.246 (talk) 16:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
We keep trying to add a "resolved" section to this page, for the resolved cases, but we think the bot keeps wiping it out. Sometimes the "resolved" header even appears in the archives. Can you check this out? Maybe it doesn't like single =. — Rlevse • Talk • 02:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's something different. At present, the bot only recognizes ==second level== threads. Thus, a =first level= section header was treated as a part of the previous thread and archived along with it (but only the header and not content). The sections under the =completed= section were archived normally, i.e. when their time came. After the supposed rewrite, the bot should be able to handle any level threads, but not yet. You can put the completed section on a subpage and transclude it on the main one for now. Миша1319:37, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
BOT not wiping the resolved section
[6], it pulls threads from both resolved and non-resolved without wiping out the resolved header, must be people keep changing it. Thanks for checking. — Rlevse • Talk • 11:17, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Na mojej.
Witaj. Zanim jeszcze pójdę na urlop dokładny, muszę załatwić kilka spraw. Pierwsza: Jeśli mógłbyś odpowiadaj na mojej stronie dyskusji. Druga to to, że jakbyś chciał coś ode mnie/miał jakąś sprawę pisz pod e-mail Alden Jones małpa wp pl. Kolejna to obserwowanie strony wikipedysty tomty1, gdzie wandalizm zauważyłem po ok.2 m-cach. Poprosiłem również Visora aby sprawdzał tę stronę, ale wiadomo ostrożności nigdy za wiele. Ostatnia: Obserwuj wpisy użytkownika KatLos w dyskusjach innych użytkowników, momentami te wpisy, których dokonuje KatLos są nie na miejscu. Jeśli możesz odpisz na mojej stronie dysksuji. Z poważaniem. Paweł Alden or my talk page17:16, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
