User talk:Minoa/Archive 2

This is an archive of past discussions with User:Minoa, for the period 1 January 2012 to 31 December 2016. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.

Archive 1

Archive 2

Archive 3

Archive 4

References: revision 621,685,974 of User talk:Minoa/Archive 1, and revisions 704,565,633 and 750,836,429 of User talk:Minoa. Minoa removed section collapsing on 7 December 2022, for accessibility reasons.

Quick reminders (formerly pinned)

• Development: see Sandbox
• Edit summaries: some good faith edits may have mildly hyperactive comments like "(Banned user) sockpuppet edits have no value!". You can use them to determine my level of frustration when dealing with sockpuppets.
• Hieroglyphs: <hiero>A25A\-..-N33B-..-A24-.:Z1-A16</hiero> returns the earliest known game of cricket.
• Housekeeping: see Checklist
• PGP public keys: To reduce spam, I only send PGP public keys when necessary, so please don't ask for one unless you got a signed email from me.
• TOC: I have re-enabled it after archiving the old talk page.

Athens metro

Hello! I love the work you've done with Athens Metro article! I am the author of File:Athens public transport map future.png, but I've forgotten my password and I can't log in. I'm generally a railway fan! Anyway, it's marvelous! --178.128.144.132 (talk) 06:53, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, of course! You can go ahead and flag it! :) By the way, this is a map of line 1. What do you think? --RoseAphro (talk) 15:36, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Oh what a mess you are making of the Athens Metro stations! I don't know why you needed to change every name and every template that affects succession, but I'll wait until you finish what you are doing before helping with cleanup. :) Good luck. Sw2nd (talk) 20:39, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I acknowledge your thoughts about the station articles being renamed gradually, but it should be noted that almost all London Underground stations also follow a naming convention as well: in their case it's "(Place) tube station". --Marianian(talk) 20:51, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

But all the existing templates could have been simply renamed to match, instead of which you have created multiples for the same function. If you had moved, like you did with the station, rather than replacing, redirects would have taken care of temporary glitches in succession templates. We now have several redundant line, station, color and succession templates etc. As I said Good luck! Sw2nd (talk) 20:59, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

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October 2012

Hello, I'm Eeekster. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Dimotiko Theatro metro station, but you didn't provide a reliable source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Eeekster (talk) 00:15, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Country data Athens

Template:Country data Athens has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 07:07, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK promotions

Marianian, thank you for your recent review of Template:Did you know nominations/Detropia. I wanted to clarify something about the DYK process: once you review a hook and approve it, as you did for this review, your job is done. The system is set up so that someone else is responsible for adding it to a prep area; indeed, it's set up that way so there's an extra layer of hook and article checking built in. People who have contributed extensively to an article, nominated it for DYK, suggested the hook, or approved the article, are not supposed to promote it to the prep area; similarly, if you suggest a new hook as part of your review, you aren't also supposed to approve it.

I've removed the Detropia hook from Prep 2; in due course, it will be picked up and added to a prep area by someone who wasn't involved with the nomination. This may take several days: we currently have 115 approved hooks backlogged, and are posting them at a rate of 21 per day, just up from 16. Please let me know if you have any questions. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:40, 5 January 2013 (UTC) [subsequent edit at 22:08, 5 January 2013 (UTC); forgot the most important part!]

DYK for Barcelona Metro 9000 Series

On 30 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Barcelona Metro 9000 Series, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Barcelona Metro 9000 Series (pictured) runs on three Spanish-speaking rapid transit systems? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Barcelona Metro 9000 Series. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:02, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Blue Tit

Hi Marianian: You recently removed Blue Tit from WP:AFT, saying it was "too vulnerable to abuse". However, the feedback page shows no sign of such abuse; in fact, it contains several helpful bits of feedback! Can we un-blacklist it please, unless and until it starts causing problems? Thanks! MeegsC (talk) 14:58, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi MeegsC, I have been feeling uncomfortable about the idea of WP:AFT feature in all articles because of the trolling that's going on around the internet in general. Plus, spammers seem to be able to get around the filter by putting a space after the dot - well, we can't catch 'em all at once. By the way, it isn't not the only article opted out: Greater Manchester has been well long before the mass roll-out. As a courtesy I have disabled the tag for now, but I think we should continue to monitor the situation because if it was overtly abusive or spammy, then I am unclear as to how they would act on it: for example, how would it be logical to simply hide a comment that blatantly invades the privacy a non-personality? --Marianian^(talk) 15:23, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Let's deal with the problem if/when it occurs. I've seen no vandalism along the lines of what you're describing above in the Blue Tit article. Have you, and I've simply missed it? BTW, there is no current plan to roll the AFT out to all articles; if you've been following its development, there was an RFC which showed clear community consensus for restricting its deployment until various issues are resolved. MeegsC (talk) 17:15, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Article Feedback deployment

Hey Marianian; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:24, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Minoa. You have new messages at JohnCD's talk page.
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Numismatics

Hi Marianian- I was looking at the member list for Numismatics and saw that you have an interest in paper currency. I have a FLC Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of people on United States banknotes/archive1 that could use some more reviews. This may not be your thing at all, in which case no worries. Thanks--Godot13 (talk) 17:52, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Global cash dinar vandal

Thanks for picking up on this. As I look back on it, I believe I thought that one of the edits was suspicious because it was unnecessary but I did not understand the other edit. They needed to be reverted but I could not tell whether they were vandalism. I suppose if I had taken a good look at the IP's talk page, I would have found that out. The talk page often tips the balance on sly vandalism when the user has been warned about something already. Thanks again for the followup. Donner60 (talk) 19:47, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

AFT5 re-enabled

Hey Marianian :). Just a note that the Article Feedback Tool, Version 5 has now been re-enabled. Let us know on the talkpage if you spot any bugs. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 00:55, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

1RR arbitration for Syrian civil war articles

A request for Arbcom regarding creation of specific Syrian civil war 1RR arbitration tool is issued and if accepted will affect that page and other related pages on Syrian civil war. The issue was previously discussed and recommended by an administrator for Arbcom solution on the issue here. As an editor involved in previous discussion on this topic, your opinion is requested, thank you.Greyshark09 (talk) 17:25, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Motion proposed regarding the Syrian civil war clarification and amendment request

This is a courtesy notice to inform you that an Arbitrator has proposed a motion regarding a clarification and amendment request in which you were named as a party. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 01:28, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Arbitration motion regarding Syrian civil war articles

This is a courtesy notice to inform you that the Arbitration Committee has passed a motion with respect to a request for clarification and amendment, in which you were named as a party, regarding articles related to the Syrian civil war. Please see the link above for the full text of the motion. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 08:54, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Request for amendment of sanctions on Syrian civil war articles

Dear user, as a participant of former discussions on amendment of sanctions on Syrian civil war articles, i would like to notify you on motion-resulting discussion at Administrators' Noticeboard (WP:AN), in order to determine whether there is consensus to continue the restrictions in effect as community-based restrictions, either as they currently exist or in a modified form. Meanwhile, and for a period of 30 days starting July 21, 1RR sanction shall continue to be applied with any notifications and sanctions to be logged at Talk:Syrian civil war/Log.Greyshark09 (talk) 20:46, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Greek railway stations

There are many stations now being nominated for deletion. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nea Peramos railway station. I bring this to you attention because you may not be aware of these recently created articles. Sw2nd (talk) 13:50, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Ask to keep all: It looks like the AfD fails WP:DONTBITE. Oh Yeaaahh is only a couple of days old. There's nothing better to scare away new Greek railway writers with an AfD, and threatening to revoke editing privileges for adding new articles. I just hope that the user tells me where they got the station codes from. That would make a good first citation. --Marianian^(talk) 14:39, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

"Global cash dinar" vandal

After successfully getting Yugoslav dinar placed on pending changes protection for one year (thanks, Darkwind), it appears that Wikipedia isn't the only wiki suffering from the "global cash dinar" vandal. So I've sent a message to some of the affected sites:

I am writing to inform you about anonymous users adding deliberate factual errors about old Argentine and Yugoslav currency.

The spam (such as the one at [link redacted for your safety]) claims that such old currencies are still legal tender in hundreds of countries. That is clearly not true because they have been obsolete for a long time and they are only worth what the collector is willing to pay for, depending on rarity.

It appears that the spammer uses Embarq Corporation IP addresses starting with 71.x.x.x range.

We have been experiencing this problem as well, hence the necessity to share this insight with you so that you can prevent such spam.

Regards,

Marianian.

Global cash dinar vandals are already on a short leash. It does not take rocket science to prove that old Argentine and Yugoslav currency are only worth what the collector is willing to pay for, and nothing more.

Archive.is

Request content removal by archive.is by clicking the "Report abuse" link on the archive.is copies of your pages, and selecting "Copyrighted material" in the form. You may wish to consider actually putting a copyright notice on your pages. If not satisfied, request DMCA takedown to archive.is directly, instead of Google. In the meantime, if you want, you can hide the archive.is archives of your pages by a) blanking your page, b) archiving the blanked page at archive.is, c) restoring your page content. There is a problem, however. Trouble is, you released the material CC-BY-NC, so it can be copied for any purpose EXCEPT commercial use - this at the moment doesn't forbid archiving by archive.is, since it's not obviously commercial, nor is it obviously non-commercial. If and when archive.is becomes commercial, your takedown notice based on CC-BY-NC will have the support of CC, in my opinion, and I'm not a lawyer. --Lexein (talk) 05:42, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your insight. Being a spam-fighter myself, at times my alert level may be over 9000 (and sometimes clumsy). The thing is that websites need to ask for my permission to use bots, hence I came up with this. --Marianian^(talk) 07:51, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Update: IP range found, ZB Block informed. --Marianian^(talk) 04:05, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Athens transportation map

Hello User:Marianian! There are some mistakes on the map, concerning the suburban railway lines (P).

There are actually three lines:
1 Airport - Kiato (through Acharnai Railway Centre - horizontal platform)
2 Piraeus - Chalkida ( through Acharnai Railway Centre - vertical platform)
3 Athens - Ano Liossia (not stoping at Acharnai Railway Centre)

--79.103.246.168 (talk) 20:56, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

It's me again. So here are the timetables from the operating company TRAINOSE [[1]]. Unfortunatelly only in Greek (the English version is not updated), but you cab use Google Translate :

1 Δρομολόγια Αεροδρόμιο - Κιάτο - Αεροδρόμιο

2 Δρομολόγια Αθήνα - Αγ. Ανάργυροι - Α. Λιόσια

3 Δρομολόγια Πειραιάς - Χαλκίδα

For Piraeus line you have to add the stations Rouf, Pyrgos Vasilissis and Kato Acharnai...till Chalkida . And Tavros Station (which is scheduled)
The short name for Acharnai Railay Centre is "SKA" (in Greek ΣΚΑ : Σιδηροδρομικό Κέντρο Αχαρανών) which, I suggest, should be added.

--2.85.161.218 (talk) 13:37, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Pumpie sockpuppet

Quick question: User:Hannah Undel has edited New York City Subway articles as well as Spanish railway articles, while Pumpie edits, according to what I have seen, Greek railway articles. Has Pumpie, or any known sockpuppets edited New York subway articles before? Epicgenius (talk) 18:44, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Here is the partial list of cities the past socks edited, according to the SPI archive: Malina, Harbin, Istanbul, Hong Kong, Marseille, Lyon and yes, Madrid. The list isn't complete because I do not have permissions to sift through deleted revisions.

Also, have a look at the logs for Sol Station, Aranjuez railway station and the history of Nuevos Ministerios station.

I have considered all factors that led me to make the report, because Pumpie has edited Spanish articles before. Overall, together with C&P moves and the ability to create this the account's first day, such edits are a short-lived cover for the user's next attempt to disrupt Greek station articles.

I assume that you want to know which would be the best tell-tale signs: the tell-tale signs of Pumpie's socks is a combination of factors: not just one. --Marianian^(talk) 19:07, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

I assume that you want to know which would be the best tell-tale signs: the tell-tale signs of Pumpie's socks is a combination of factors: not just one. Yes, that is what I am also asking. Info on that would be appreciated. Thanks, Epicgenius (talk) 19:28, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Glad you are willing to help us out. Constantine (Cplakidas) and Markussep may have even more ways to detect the puppets because I am late into Pumpie's game (please do make an enquiry to them): he clearly cannot win if we have the right detection methods, but do not rely on just one factor. To put it into a simple list, I would say it would include, but not be limited to:

• Bad translations from Greek to English despite his claim of fluency.
• Focus on Greek and Turkish railway articles after (recently) a day or two of editing other metro-related articles in order to claim that they were a different person.
• Copy and paste moves.
• Making edits without writing a summary.
• Creating redundant S-line templates, in which new and established users would not try to do.
• Creating elaborate templates on the first day of the account (which is important because a majority new users don't do that).
• Inserting Athenian/Attic templates for stations that are outside of the region.

I think that is my experience: having done a huge overhaul of the Athens Metro topic (the latest being the upgrade to Template:Infobox station/Header OASA to improve integration with the standard infobox), Pumpie's edits are increasingly easy to detect if you know his modus operandi. I'm not in a position to create an WP:LTA without a consensus (despite proposing it) but to me it will help reduce the damage since the user is already giving Greek Wikipedians a bad image. If you like me to create station headers for Madrid's metro please advise. --Marianian^(talk) 20:16, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

All right, thanks. Epicgenius (talk) 20:25, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Zimbabwean Dollar.

There will not be a fifth Zimbabwean dollar, as the use of multiple currencies will continue for the foreseeable future.

The Zimbabwean Bond Coins are the closest thing to a local currency, as they have been in circulation since 18 December 2014 to fill a shortage of small change coins. - (202.89.141.109 (talk) 07:22, 15 January 2015 (UTC))

Nomination for merging of Template:BLNMT-icon

Template:BLNMT-icon has been nominated for merging with Template:Rail-interchange. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Jc86035 (talk • contributions) Use {{ping|Jc86035}} to reply to me 04:17, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Removing your own articles

Hi. Just so you know, when you accidentally create an article or otherwise want to remove a page which had no substantial contributions by anyone other than yourself, you can nominate it for speedy deletion under G7: Author requests deletion. Tagging it appropriately using one of the templates listed under G7 is the fastest way to have it removed. Thanks for your contributions! BU Rob13 (talk) 19:51, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox station/Header OASA

Template:Infobox station/Header OASA has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Alakzi (talk) 19:01, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!

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Countdown clock

I'm sure that template is a flagrant violation of WP:REALTIME. ViperSnake151  Talk  05:17, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

I wasn't aware of that, but if that is the case then I think we should TfD the template (or maybe I missed a whole day's sleep and I need to sleep now: the problem is that I can't). --Marianian^(talk) 06:22, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Statement by Minoa on 10 August 2016‎

Source: revision 733,811,488 of User talk:Minoa.

I have decided to voluntarily quit the Internet because of privacy and security concerns, and also because of negative effect that the Internet has had on my health.

The state of my health means that I am obviously not supposed to help fight mass surveillance and other issues on the Internet, since doing so will make my health worse. Right now, I just want peace and a new life.

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