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No independent sources about the subject, only primary references to his publications. Work in "life extension" is a massive red flag, but there's no independent evaluation of the validity of his work, raising substantial WP:NPOV concerns. At least one of the cites is in a predatory open-access journal, again a massive red flag.

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I've also blanked and listed Ben Homer, where there appears to be foundational copying from here and here. That bothers me, as I'd hoped the Kati Whitaker problem was a one-off slip-of-the-brain. Are there also other pages where you have copied more or less directly from the sources? If so, it'd be helpful if you could mention them here. Thank you, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:38, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Homer is a very bare bones article containing mostly short factual statements. There are sources for these facts which are stated in the article. Facts cannot be copyrighted. I rephrased the facts into a wikipedia article. Please supply examples where you think I copied en block because I cant see them. I realise that Wikipedia has to avoid copyright issues but I think you are being over zealous here. Lumos3 (talk) 09:09, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

On Kati Whitaker the detected so called violations are all titles of awards she has received. These are the names of the awards. They are minimal factual statements. Lumos3 (talk) 09:14, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there's always a risk that I'm being over-zealous, though I try not to be; an advantage of listing an article at WP:CP is that other people will see it, and (I hope) someone else will evaluate the extent of the problem if there is one. Meanwhile, I'm sorry, but I just can't agree that there's no violation in either of these articles. In Kati Whitaker, This tool shows quite substantial copying from one of the sources that carry this material (neither I nor the tool can guess which one!). Of course some of that overlap is due to proper names which can't be rephrased; but a lot of it is due to copying material that should have been written in your own words. Similarly, in Ben Homer, there seems to have been copying from at least two (1, 2) of the cited sources. And I'm sorry, but [Ben Homer/Temp isn't acceptable either.

I also had to remove copyvio from Bettisia Gozzadini – see this comparison. If you think there might be other pages you've worked on with similar problems, it'd be helpful if you'd mention them here – perhaps you could go through some of your past contribs? Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:43, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Citation for the age of Bettisia Gozzadini

Greetings Lumos3. I'm currently working on a danish article about Bettisia Gozzadini and I've run into a bit of a problem regarding her lifespan. In the en-wiki article her lifespan is listed as 1209-1261 which I was able to find one source for.[1] The problem is the source doesn't say where it got this info from and the main focus of the paper isn't Bettisia Gozzadini, she is just mentioned briefly. I've been trying to find some journal articles listing her lifespan, but now I've found articles that claim she was teaching law as late as 1296[2][3] which doesn't fit with the original lifespan. I can see you added the lifespan to the en-wiki article in this edit back in 2008, do you remember where you got that information from. It would be most helpful as I'm at quite a loss at what to do with two sources that contradict each other. Thanks! Best Regards, InsaneHacker (🗪) 14:15, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think the sources I used in 2008 have now been removed from the www. Here is a personal blog of Janna Brancolini, a Fulbright Scholar on a trip to Italy. [1] . It describes the bust of Gozzadini in the Museo della Storia di Bologna sculpted by Casa Fibbia sometime between 1680 and 1690. It states her birth and death dates as MCCXXXXII. Obyt MCCLXI. (1223 - 1261) . I think this should be used as the source. Lumos3 (talk) 21:11, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That looks good, thanks for the help! Best Regards, InsaneHacker (🗪) 07:10, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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1. Matteucc, Francesca; Gratton, Raffaele (2014). "Women in Italian astronomy": 1–2. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)
2. Schiebinger, Londa (1991). The mind has no sex?: Women in the origins of modern science. Harvard University Press. p. 14. ISBN 9780674576254.
3. Schiebinger, Londa (1990). "The Anatomy of Difference: Race and Sex in Eighteenth-century Science". Eighteenth-Century Studies. 23 (4). Johns Hopkins University Press: s. 399. doi:10.2307/2739176.

(talk page stalker) Er, not quite. MCCXXXXII is 1242, not 1223, and is a floruit date (the year she gave the funeral oration for Enrico della Fratta), not a date of birth; "Casa Fibbia" is a palace (the Palazzo Fibbia Fabbri), not a sculptor. A blog is not usually a reliable source. Her dates are given as 1209–1261 in numerous presumably reliable sources including this piece by the late lamented Umberto Eco and this page of the Museo della Città di Bologna. This book from 1845 gives her date of death as 2 November 1261. I'm less confident about this page supposedly archived from the website of the Comune of Bologna (which would be RS). She's not in the Dizionario biografico degli italiani. HTH, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:39, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't suggestion the blog itself was a source, but it attests to the existence of the statue which itself is the source. Public inscriptions can be reliable sources. Good point about he floruit date , i've not heard of these. An CC image of the sculpture could be a free use image of the subject. Lumos3 (talk) 15:27, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Of course; I was actually trying to suggest that a blog is not a reliable source even for the text of an inscription. I think it might be difficult to find a photo of the sculpture because of the restrictive laws in Italy on freedom of panorama and the rights in cultural heritage (which belong to the State). Meanwhile, I've added a nineteenth-century engraving to the page, as you may have seen.

It seems to me that the Londa Schiebinger sources cited by InsaneHacker are simply wrong: the chances of a Mediaeval person being active at 87 are low indeed; the chances of that person still being able to lecture 35 years after death are much slimmer. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:42, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree with you Justlettersandnumbers about the 1296 date being fishy. The problem is that it's written in a journal article from a fairly respectable journal (and Schiebinger is a respected academic) and some other works (although I'm pretty sure the latter got their data from the former). I think I'll just list the 1209-1261 date with a footnote explaining that some sources dispute this. Thanks for the sources on her lifespan. I will cut myself some slack for not coming across these myself though as I have no proficiency in Italian at all Best Regards, InsaneHacker (🗪) 12:54, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm new on this. I'd like to open a new reference: ECOLIBERALISM in English and ECOLIBERALISMO in Spanish. Last year I published a book with this name. I built a wiki page, but there is not on Wikipedia any more. I don't know if I didn't save it correctly,... In any case. I've tried again to edit a page called Ecoliberalism, but the system only leave me open a reference of my user "User:Thomeu62". May you help me to begin with this job? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomeu62 (talk • contribs) 16:58, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Is ecoliberalism a term used in public discussion by others? It may be your article was deleted because it only cited your own book and was seen as self promotion. You would need to write an article that cites at least two or three other sources apart from your own that use and explain the term , and not give undue prominence to your book. I see you've made two edits which link to your own work and website.I suggest you learn the Wikipedia rules by first doing minor edits to articles of interest to you and citing the source justifying the edit from places other than your own writing. You should also disclose on your own Wikipedia page that you are a published author and may have a conflict of interest . Being an expert in an area is not in itself a justification that what you say is true and can be published here without stating its sources. Everything on Wikipedia must be cited to a reliable source ( and not your own ). Take a look at the guidelines on conflict of interest Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest. Being a subject expert is not itself a conflict of interest but undue promotion of your own book is. Hope this helps . Lumos3 (talk) 10:55, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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