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Interesting read :) I like coming across articles like this one when I'm doing new page patrol. I wonder if you could explain, why was the charter written in French rather than English? Sorry if it's a stupid question, my history knowledge is pretty bad. --Physics is all gnomes (talk) 13:49, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
O tempora!Can you quote me a use of tempus in context? I think I've only ever seen it abbreviated, temp. Hen. II (for, I presume, tempore Henrici secundi) meaning in the time of H2. Obviously there are contexts where tempus is correct even in Latin, but it's not trivial to imagine a context where an historian would use temp. Hen. II as the subject or object of a verb. —Tamfang (talk) 21:03, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
I have had funWith Pimp tenure. I even found an online copy of Thomas Blount's book. No online copies of the rolls yet, as far as I know! Rich Farmbrough, 18:31, 18 May 2011 (UTC).
Failed swimmer notabilityOK, I doubted that a consensus had bee reached on that, but honestly I wonder about the importance of a title like "Miss Charlene Wittstock". It sounds a bit ridiculous... Not to speak of even listing her ancestors who were total nullities, just because other noble figures had them. But they were NOT noble, so where's their relevance? I've decided to add that comic template also to my personal page: hope that at least satire can work. Ciao and good work. --'''Attilios''' (talk) 11:52, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I have corrected the license on this image: PD-old is plainly wrong because its author, Haselden has not been dead for more than 70 years (or even the 100 years claimed under that template). This image is still copyrighted in the UK, though PD in the US by virtue of pre-1923 publication. However, we still need to know where this image was obtained (it is obviously not scanned from the original newspaper, judging from the sharpness and different font of the partial text at the bottom). From which source was this image scanned from? Jappalang (talk) 04:44, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
John Russell, 1st Earl of BedfordSource for dates was Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (ODNB).PacificBoy 10:41, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
In addition to King John...If you have five minutes and fancy taking a look, I'd welcome your thoughts on King Stephen. The article's in a pretty good state now, but it would benefit from someone with a good background in the sources looking over it as well. I'd like to try and take it to FAR at some point in the near future and you've a good eye for this sort of thing! Hchc2009 (talk) 16:49, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
DimidiationWell, I didn't notice it until after looking at it for almost five minutes... AnonMoos (talk) 09:47, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
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The martlet in the cadency imageI made the image. I don't recall where the current version of that brisure came from. If you can find a better martlet anywhere on Wikimedia Commons and let me know, I'll be glad to replace it. Marnanel (talk) 12:27, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
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That was one of my very first contributions! - and this is my first Barnstar, a very great honour, thanks. I'm really glad you enjoyed the article, there's a lot more to say on that topic, I hope I'll get round to it one day, but with WP one is constantly moving on...(Lobsterthermidor (talk) 19:09, 13 May 2012 (UTC)) A barnstar for you!
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Thanks for your detailed response - similarly appreciated here. You talk about your opinions: you think short paras are helpful and don't look a mess, that quote boxes don't belong in a serious article, etc. The problem, of course, is that there's a huge range of such personal opinions among our editors, and that's why we have policies and guidelines - WP couldn't work without them. In this case most other editors haven't agreed with your view, so neither does the Manual of Style, or the FA process. On that basis - consensus about article style - I will restore the longer paras and the quotebox. Thanks for that. Incidentally, you changed the caption of the photo from "Winscott Barton, an 18th-century farmhouse on the site of Winscott in which Risdon lived" to "Winscott Barton, the farmhouse (with later 18th.c. additions) in which Risdon lived". In writing that caption, I followed the photo's file description which helpfully cited Hoskins' Devon (which says "The present farmhouse is a late 18th-cent. house.") I remember wondering whether I should add the photo at all, since it evidently isn't the same building that Risdon lived in. But do you have evidence that refutes Hoskins? —SMALLJIM 23:46, 7 July 2012 (UTC) Summary styleThis is still in response to your last post. At least we agree that WP is never finished! I don't think I said anything about removing or restricting the addition of any information that's relevant to the topic. But that doesn't mean that an article can continue to expand indefinitely. We have to bear in mind summary style and what's expected of an encyclopedia article. Beyond a certain level, we don't expect a single article to provide all the information about a topic. When one aspect of a topic has been researched and expanded so much that it unbalances the entire article, it should be split off into a child article. WP:DETAIL gives a decent explanation of this principle. This isn't really about the current Risdon article, but some of the others that you've edited - I came across Orleigh Court which demonstrates the problem nicely, I think: it's far from what I'd expect to see if I, as a general reader, came to WP for information. I reckon that all that content about the "descent of the manor" should be in a child article, with a brief summary in the main article. Much of it is only very peripherally relevant to Orleigh Court. What do you think? By the way, you said, "...at present WP's objective is to include the entire sum of human knowledge". Sorry, no it isn't - see WP:NOT. (Though it does depend on one's personal definition of knowledge, I suppose!) —SMALLJIM 23:46, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
You added a new meaning at the end of January. Unfortunately, you did not add a reference. The new material really ought to be in its own article (per a split tag) and yet it can't because of the lack of reference. Therefore, I will move the new material to the talk page so that it can easily be re-instated should you find a reference in the future. Op47 (talk) 18:41, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
Barony of MoorNice find! I've deleted the hoax article and indef-blocked the perpetrator. I've also redacted your addition of part of the content to Barmby Moor because (possible copyvio considerations apart) we can't be certain without careful reading that it hadn't been tampered with. —SMALLJIM 16:38, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
Cite spam??What's with this cite spam deletion you did on House of Braose? Surely the full citation is the preferred one. Doug (at Wiki) 17:30, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
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Message added —SMALLJIM 12:02, 19 August 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Licences to crenellateI noticed you've started an article on licences to crenellate, which to be fair is filling a gap in the encyclopedia. However, it is only fair to tell you that I'm effectively going to ditch what you've written as it is riddled with problems. First and foremost are issues relating to referencing. The author of the article you have been using was written by Philip Davis and published in The Castle Studies Group Journal. There is a significant difference between that and the group carrying out the research themselves. Then there is the issue of attribution. Despite the fact you added the information and clearly had the article to hand, it is not properly referenced. There are statements and paragraphs which do not have a footnote to explain the information has come from Davis' article, making it useless to a reader. Ensuring every statement is impeccably sourced should be standard practice for Wikipedia, and while there are a host of articles which fall hopelessly short of this standard there's no excuse for newly added information. On top of that, your reading of the article is somewhat ham-fisted. I made some corrections to the battlement article which you did not bother to copy across, thereby reintroducing errors. For instance you wrote "Pardons could be obtained for unlicenced constructions, termed "adulterine" whereas what Davis said was "In particular it is important to understand that the so called 'adulterine' castles of the Anarchy of Stephen were not 'unlicenced', as sometimes stated". Nev1 (talk) 17:04, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
Why not simply state at top of the list: "All sourced from Davis unless stated to the contrary"? It is a great exaggeration to say the info's useless because of this minor matter of clarifying the source. There's certainly a way round that. If you are also refering to the main bodies of text, then I can improve the referencing as you suggest. I can't see how this justifies your proposal to "ditch" the article. I should add that on the matter of pardons, you deleted the whole sentence instead of retaining what was OK, i.e. that a mechanism for obtaining pardons existed, an important point to make. I will make the above 3 amendments and you can let me know what you think. I'm glad you agree with me that this is "filling a much gap" (sic). It's a shame you previously deleted the whole thing with no reason given. You could have demerged the text yourself, or asked me to do it. Perhaps now you can work on it a bit more constructively. (Lobsterthermidor (talk) 17:43, 19 August 2012 (UTC))
Lobsterthermidor, when adding references, do you think you could include the pages where you found the information? Thanks, Nev1 (talk) 18:49, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
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improvements to an entryLobsterthermidor could you kindly help expand the content of this article, Palmes family? Cheers (Yahoo12445678 (talk) 21:22, 7 October 2012 (UTC)).
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Thanks, BracketBot (talk) 19:11, 25 June 2013 (UTC) DescentsGreat work, but please stop overloading articles on villages – which should approximate to the format specified in WP:UKVILLAGES – with excessive details of manorial descents. Please create separate articles, as I have done for Manor of Berry Pomeroy, Manor of North Molton and now Manor of King's Nympton. Thanks, —SMALLJIM 21:21, 10 June 2013 (UTC) And Manor of Combe Martin. —SMALLJIM 23:00, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
At commons:File:Portobello3.jpg you were listed as the uploader and the file description page states that you would be also the author. Now, a complaint via OTRS was issued and it looks like Michael Turner would be the author of this file. Can you clarify the situation please? Thank you. -- Rillke (talk) 18:57, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Original researchAlthough you haven't commented this time, I have no doubt you're aware that I've been "following you around" again, this time removing examples of original research from the articles you've edited.(*) I'm sorry it has taken me so long to become fully aware that this is a problem with your contributions and to take action – it's partly because of a reluctance to do the research necessary to show beyond reasonable doubt that a certain passage is indeed OR, a task made more difficult by the abstruse nature of many of the topics. However, I am now as sure as I can be that the addition of original research has been a regular feature in your editing, and you need to ensure that this doesn't continue. Don't look upon this as an "official warning" or anything like that – I'm sure you acted unknowingly since it's apparent that you're not very interested in reading up on our policies etc. (which is OK – up to a point), and there's no doubt that your intent here is good, and that you have added a great deal of value to the encyclopedia. But you do now need to take more care that your contributions are made in accordance with our policies and guidelines. I'm going to continue to work back through some of your contributions and remove the parts that seem to violate our policies. I hope you'll follow me and check my edits (if you were to precede me, that would be even more helpful – no-one can know better than you when you added something that wasn't already published!) I will, of course, be happy to discuss any individual changes. Oh, and if you strongly disagree with all of this, there are a number of ways of getting someone else to look at the situation – Wikipedia:Third opinion describes the most lightweight of these, though it lists the other available alternatives too. Best, —SMALLJIM 15:02, 21 June 2013 (UTC) (*) See, for example, some of my recent edits to Heanton Satchville, Petrockstowe; Petrockstowe; Huish, Devon; Beam, Great Torrington; Denys family and Molland (apologies if any of that wasn't actually added by you).
John Giffard (1602-1665)Thanks so much for the article about John Giffard (1602-1665). I've made some edits - and have some comments for a few additional things to resolve for the article on the Talk:John Giffard (1602-1665) page. Please let me know if there's anything I can do.--CaroleHenson (talk) 02:13, 22 June 2013 (UTC) Interested in some pointers?Hi, You've brought a number of great articles to Wikipedia! I've done some editing and research, lately on Monkleigh and Annery, Monkleigh, but there are really only a couple of issues. There are also some tools that make creating citations so much easier. I am hoping you're going to continue to bring interesting articles to WP! I wondered if you'd be interested in a couple of tips to make things easier and better fit the guidelines. If so, I am watching this page and will see any updates here.--CaroleHenson (talk) 01:09, 25 June 2013 (UTC) TalkbackHello, Lobsterthermidor. You have new messages at Talk:Abbots Bickington.
Message added 02:51, 25 June 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. I want to check out a couple more articles and found this article where there was a large amount of uncited info added to a pretty clean article. So, I moved it to the talk page to resolve: 1) what is uncited, 2) what is not notable and 3) what belongs in the main articles about a person. If there are some people that you've been adding information about in multiple articles, that's a good indicator that there may need to be articles about that person or people. Here to help, but also wanting to protect work by people that follow the guidelines. CaroleHenson (talk) 02:51, 25 June 2013 (UTC) Rare survivalsHi! I've noted CaroleHenson's recent cleanup of some of your work, including Abbots Bickington. It prompted me to read again through your posts at WT:UKCITIES#Manorial histories, where you raised the issue of appropriate content in articles on villages, and in your second long post there I came across this:
This strongly suggests that you are looking at Wikipedia as a place to store these rare survivals of ancient information. Whilst this is a worthy objective, it isn't part of Wikpedia's remit, so you may, as I recall CaroleHenson suggested to you recently, be better off setting up your own website for this purpose where you can work without our restrictions. —SMALLJIM 10:06, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
CivilityRegarding this edit to CaroleHenson's talk page, please read Wikipedia:Civility and ensure you abide by it. Thanks. —SMALLJIM 23:06, 25 June 2013 (UTC) Some adviceFollowing on from your reply of 25 June above, I'm pleased to hear that you're happy to work with the WP restrictions which, as you know, are set out in our policies, guidelines and the Manual of Style. Of course you have to be aware of them before you can abide by them and while no-one is expected to read every single page, experienced editors such as ourselves are expected to have absorbed enough knowledge to contribute without their work having to be checked and cleaned up by someone else. However, the recent bout of editing from CaroleHenson and myself has shown that this isn't the case for many of your contributions. I have focused on original research and Carole seems particularly keen on accurate sourcing. You also say above that you're very happy with some of my latest edits: well thank you, but the point is that I shouldn't need to do such clean-up work for an editor who has made almost 14,000 manual edits to articles. Anyone with that many edits who cares about WP should be proud of the work he contributes and should strive to make it the best he can, not only in the research, but in its presentation and accuracy. Once advised that there is a problem, it's not collegial to continue and expect someone else to clean it up. The recent postings at Talk:Annery, Monkleigh are relevant here. So... I want to urge you to commit to editing in accordance with our rules. We don't expect perfection, of course, but we can't allow a continuing flow of articles such as Whitechapel, Bishops Nympton, for example, which appear on the surface to be fine pieces of research – and, yes, I know a great deal of that goes into them – but which also contain nobody knows how much original research and citation errors and extraneous information. Not to mention the style issues. In view of the above, here's some advice:
We have a policy on disruptive editing which does not apply to you. But, as you can see if you read that policy, parts of it may do in the future if you continue to contribute as you have done, without taking notice of advice given and efforts made to improve your work. Although the fruits of your research are appreciated here, there is more to Wikipedia than just adding information to articles. There are other people here and we all have to get along and respect consensus opinions about how things should be done. —SMALLJIM 13:16, 27 June 2013 (UTC) A book from Google USHi again. See this chat I've just had with CaroleHenson. If it sounds like the book might be useful to you (as a taster, vol 1 is on archive.com here) and you'd like a copy, email me and I'll forward it to you. —SMALLJIM 22:11, 27 June 2013 (UTC) TalkbackHello, Lobsterthermidor. You have new messages at Talk:Petrockstowe.
Message added 23:59, 27 June 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. CaroleHenson (talk) 23:59, 27 June 2013 (UTC) RetiredI saw your retired notice on your user page. One of the things that was a hard lesson for me to learn is that the information posted on Wikipedia needs to be provable / verifiable information. I am guessing that you've done a lot of research and know a lot about the history of Devon, and that there is a disconnect between what you know and what is provable by Wikipedia guidelines. If you choose to work with Wikipedia, following the guidelines spelled out by Smalljim, you would be a tremendous asset. If, on the other hand, you wish to post information somewhere else on the web that has your rich armorial and genealogy/historical information, I wish you well. {I hope you have email notification of content updates at Wikipedia.)--CaroleHenson (talk) 13:01, 28 June 2013 (UTC) I also wish you well......in whatever you choose to do instead. It's been recognised for a long time that the wiki way of doing things just isn't compatible with some people's preferred way of working and while that's unfortunate, it's definitely no reflection on their ability, worth or anything else. I shall ensure that as much as possible of your work remains here as a monument to those beneficial changes that you have made to Wikipedia. If you do take the other website route, I look forward to seeing Lobsterthermidor's Genealogy Website becoming a useful web resource and maybe even a source that's regularly cited here. —SMALLJIM 14:56, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Glad you came backI'm glad to see that you came back!--CaroleHenson (talk) 19:59, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
That was a short break!Are you willing to help check your previous contributions for OR? My message under heading "Original research" above refers. Assuming that you were gone, I started drawing up a list of articles, and was preparing a cleanup plan which involved tagging them with {{Original research}}, but I'm sure we could sort it all out quickly and quietly if we worked together. Let me know what you're prepared to do. —SMALLJIM 23:12, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Other Devon articlesI have been trying to be mindful of sources that you had said were good: Lauder (which I cannoot view), Lysons, Prince, etc. - and I believe John Burke's Peerage book to be a good source. If you see any sources that I'm using that aren't solid, reliable sources, please let me know. (As an FYI, I'm currently working on Petrockstowe and Robert Walpole articles.)--CaroleHenson (talk) 18:54, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
A talk page tipWhen starting a new section on a talk page, don't click "Edit" on the previous section and then add a ==heading== beneath because this makes it look, from the edit summary, that you're adding something to the previous section – see your 29 June edit to User talk:Hchc2009 here, for instance. Instead, click on the "New section" tag (may appear as "+") at the top of the talk page and you're presented with a Subject/headline box above the edit box. Doing it this way helps the intended recipient and/or other users see that a new topic has been started. HTH. —SMALLJIM 14:28, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
TalkbackHello, Lobsterthermidor. You have new messages at CaroleHenson's talk page.
Message added 13:32, 3 July 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. —SMALLJIM 13:32, 3 July 2013 (UTC) Administrator's noticeboardHello. Please participate in the current discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. —SMALLJIM 21:14, 7 July 2013 (UTC) No personal attacksLobsterthermidor, I am pursuing having you blocked from my user pages, in accordance with Wikipedia:No personal attacks and Wikipedia:Blocking policy#Protection.--CaroleHenson (talk) 16:56, 9 July 2013 (UTC) Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at User talk:CaroleHenson. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been reverted or removed.
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Do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively may result in your being blocked from editing. This cannot continue. I corrected a number of substantive errors that you made in this article, and made many other improvements, as explained in my edit summaries (and just now at the article talk page). I see no need to explain these changes further, and I am not prepared to instigate further fruitless attempts to explain our policies and guidelines to you - see above, and several article talk pages etc. This templated warning sets out the things you can do now. Reverting Dunsland again is not an option. —SMALLJIM 20:18, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. —SMALLJIM 15:53, 31 October 2013 (UTC) ApologyLobsterthermidor, I want to apologise for that second revert to Dunsland and for the above warning that I issued. A temporary loss of my normal imperturbability caused me to manage the situation badly. I'm sorry – it won't happen again. If you want to revert Dunsland back to your version, I'll be happy to work on improving it with you, calling on WP:3O if appropriate. Going forward, since the editors who've seen our disagreements have shown little interest in my concern for accuracy in WP's articles, there seems to be no point in continuing to review your edits and running the risk of causing further discord. So although I propose to tidy up some of the outstanding issues, I'll otherwise only deal with anything that I happen across during routine editing. In other words you can rejoice that the "two year vexatious edit war with Smalljim, who has developed a creepy habit of following him around WP" [4] – as you have picturesquely described my intermittent attempts to help you since July last year – has ended :) —SMALLJIM 13:39, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
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