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Your vandalism list

Hi, k6ka! Why you take out the vandalism list on your user page? I thought it's a quote. --Allen ^(talk to me! / ctrb / E-mail me) 00:12, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@AllenHAcNguyen: I was thinking about the list a lot recently, and as any vandal fighter knows (or at least *should* know) is that vandals tend to crave attention. Keeping a list of edits they made gives them that attention so they keep coming back for more. The words WP:DENY keeps floating around in my head and I've cited the policy on many talk pages as well. I almost looked like a hypocrite keeping this list. I wasn't adding anything to it anyway, so I figured it would be better to simply remove it. However I'm not requesting the revisions to be REVDEL'd, so you can always view them here anytime you want.

I might be making vandal-fighting more of a job than a fun hobby, but I can still laugh at these silly edits at the end of the day, anyway. --I am k6ka ^Talk to me! _{See what I have done} 00:23, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Edit on Tracy Ann Oberman

Hi there.. On your last entry re JC quote you have selectively chosen a sentence from the said article of TAO piece without using the whole meaning of the article. In doing so you are either trying to make a political point or have forgotten to add the rest of the article. It is unhelpful and unnecessary to the page and appears to be put in with an "agenda". Please add the whole sentence or remove it entirely. Thankyou ---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swordofmarble (talk • contribs) 14:42, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Swordofmarble: You haven't addressed the other reasons as to why you removed content without explanation and inserted unsourced content. Also I did not selectively choose the sentence, the revert was a "full revert", not a "partial pick-and-choose" one. I fail to see how I'm trying to "make a political point" when it was a direct quote from another source. Quotes can either be detached from the text and separate or they can be "merged into the text". Also, this edit is clearly outside the neutral point of view policy and reads more like commentary. --I am k6ka ^Talk to me! _{See what I have done} 15:15, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tyco US -1 Trucking

Hello.

My first wiki update attempt.

I have added info to what was a very bare page.

I have attempted to add two links to ModelMotorist.com to show chassis and track types used in the range.

This site is very informative and helpful and shows most of the different types of tracks and chassis usd in HO slot cars. In particular US-1 Trucking, so I don't feel it is inappropriate.

I have no commercial interest in that site, but have found it useful in research

James — Preceding unsigned comment added by Highwayman97 (talk • contribs) 23:30, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Highwayman97: It might be easier if you included it as a footnote citation. Is there a specific piece of information in the article that the website you linked to supported? --I am k6ka ^Talk to me! _{See what I have done} 23:35, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter, Q3 2014

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Changes this week

• The new version of MediaWiki (1.25wmf2) has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since 2 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from 7 October, and on all Wikipedias from 9 October (calendar).
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OGen Enterprise

Hello,

Thanks for your message (Message). Actually I am new to Wikipedia, I read some privacy policies and created OGen Enterprise. I am sorry for removing the message. I have already applied for speedy deletion. If you have some suggestions for that page then please suggest me. Thanks!

- Fahadking07 (talk) 15:57, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Fahadking07: Our privacy policy differs from our content policies. See that instead. --I am k6ka ^Talk to me! _{See what I have done} 15:58, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Parachute page

I saw your message about my modification (from croatian Fausto Veranzio to dalmatian Fausto Veranzio), but saying that Veranzio is Croatian is totally wrong. Sebenico, like other towns in Dalmatia, have a population of Latin, Italian and Slave origins. The culture is italian (It was under Venezia's republic rule and Veranzio studied at Padova and Venezia). So when we are talking about people who came from towns that have so unusual nad complicated situation, it's better to avoid to use adjective like Slave, Croatian or Italian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.7.41.166 (talk) 10:31, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fausto Veranzio was born in Croatia, so even if he came from a diverse town we still call him "Croatian". Just like a Chinese person from New York City would still be called "American". And secondly, it may confuse readers when one article says he's Dalmatian and the article about Fausto Veranzio himself says he's Croatian. --I am k6ka ^Talk to me! _{See what I have done} 11:01, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

jcrypto → Alex.Cham

"Clerk note: Are you aware of (and comfortable with) the potential implications associated with using a real name? --I am k6ka Talk to me!"

Hello k6ka. Yes im aware and comfortable.

change my name please!

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcrypto (talk • contribs) 12:50, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Jcrypto: Well, I cannot rename you myself as I am not a global renamer, but I have left a note at your request telling the appropriate people that your request can proceed ;) --I am k6ka ^Talk to me! _{See what I have done} 14:10, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk note: User has said "Yes" on my talk page. --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 14:08, 8 October 2014 (UTC) Yes check.svg Done –xenotalk 14:20, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Well done dude! Thx :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex.Cham (talk • contribs) 15:58, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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what?

there is a random message at the previous webpage saying i vandalized the webpage. lol i didnt do a damn thing. in fact ive never even visited that particular webpage so... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.180.33.110 (talk) 03:24, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Most likely someone else that was using your IP address vandalized Wikipedia and accumulated warnings, then they left and nobdy saw the warnings until you logged on and acquired the IP address. You may be using a shared IP address, so you might get messages that were not intended for you. Your best option would be to create an account of your own, which will hide your IP address and ensure that only messages directed to you are seen by you... providing you log in, that is. --I am k6ka ^Talk to me! _{See what I have done} 12:54, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I changed other cultural backgrounds to backward cultures because that was the viewpoint at the time and I object to historical revisionism. I also tried to remove Sweden from one of the countries mentioned as a colonial power, since it was never relevant as a colonial power. please explain why you reverted these changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.224.89.237 (talk) 11:28, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit was reverted because it didn't appear to be written in a neutral point of view, but now that you have clarified it the situation makes sense now. Also, for the removal of "Sweden", I did not revert your edit - ChamithN did. You should talk to him/her. --I am k6ka ^Talk to me! _{See what I have done} 11:33, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your explanation, Best, E — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.224.89.237 (talk) 11:39, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

wtf

i havent vandalized your page? idk u could even do that!

70.180.33.110 (talk) 15:11, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Editing User talk:K6ka (new section)

Hello

My editing has been declined - how do I go about having it accepted knowing that I am the oldest living person in the UK with the condition?

Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whispers1 (talk • contribs) 14:15, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You will need a reliable source that accurately confirms that you are the record holder. See WP:CITE for help on citing sources in articles. Simply claiming that you are the subject isn't accepted on Wikipedia as there is no real way of verifying this fact, as anyone can create an account and claim to be someone. --I am k6ka ^Talk to me! _{See what I have done} 15:34, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:160.253.128.7

Hi. On October 7, you gave this IP a "last warning". Since then, they have vandalized 2 more pages, Isabel Allende on Oct 10, and Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum today . ‎ How do we get them blocked? All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:46, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Ssilvers: Hello. IPs or users that continue to vandalize after their final warning should be reported to WP:Administrator intervention against vandalism. As the IP is a shared address (shared by multiple users), you can report it to the page if needed. --I am k6ka ^Talk to me! _{See what I have done} 18:40, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you, for addressing my request for a Username change

Thank you, very much, for your prompt response to my Username-change request. I see that you do plenty of work, to keep Wikipedia healthy and strong. And that work is of a technical and specialized nature which is far beyond my own abilities, at least as much as it is far beyond the ken of most users of this greatest-of-all websites. I know your job is thankless—thus, against that thanklessness, here I strike! All the best, to you and yours. Analogdrift (talk) 07:59, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Analogdrift: Thank you! Yes, this job is very thankless and very under-recognized by the general public and the global community outside of Wikipedia. For over a decade thousands of people have been working tirelessly to get articles out to the public and to build Wikipedia to what it is today. Even today, new pages are being created, articles are being improved, and errors are being fixed. And despite all of this work people still continue to pass Wikipedia off as a faceless website that anyone can edit and make deliberate factual errors to fool the world. *sigh* The nerve of rude people nowadays! --I am k6ka ^Talk to me! _{See what I have done} 10:57, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Diffeo usurpation

Hi K6ka, I responded to Wikipedia:Changing_username/Usurpations#Diffeo_demo_.E2.86.92_Diffeo Diffeo demo (talk) 00:05, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My last edit was verified

Hello K6ka, sorry for not giving a verified link. This information just came out some days ago, and the actress, Mercy Johnson, also confirmed this on her twitter handle and Instagram page. I have edited it and given it the rightful citing.

Thanks for the correction and the gentle manners in which you pointed out my mistakes. Together, we'll keep Wikipedia updated. Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dailyschoolnews (talk • contribs) 03:33, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Kim Jong Un

Hi, Sorry I was generally just upset. I have friends who are South Korean and had recently heard from them that a member of their family in NK had been imprisoned in one of the North's notorious prison camps for refusing to have their hair cut the same as the 'supreme fat idiot'. I was just annoyed as it had upset my friend and was just out to put something stupid\nasty on the 'supreme fat idiot' wiki article. It definitely wasn't constructive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.249.99 (talk) 18:51, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Wikipedia isn't the place to take your grudges onto. We're an encyclopedia, not a war zone. --I am k6ka ^Talk to me! _{See what I have done} 19:02, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I realise that. Which is why I replied to your message and apologised. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.249.99 (talk) 19:24, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Thebulkeleyhotel

Good Morning,

I have read your comments and happy for you to change the username I understand that i will NOT able change it back

"ShaunBulk"

Regards

Shaun — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thebulkeleyhotel (talk • contribs) 03:09, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Talkback Karenswiftaustin Please change my username to BS08 How do I link (Greg Austin) Rugby player to ( Mitch Austin) footballer. Greg Austin is Mitch Austin's father Thankyou — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karenswiftaustin (talk • contribs) 08:23, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Karenswiftaustin: Hi, please leave requests to change your username at WP:Changing username, not at my talk page. I cannot perform renames as I am only a clerk. For the second question, please be sure to have a reliable source ready and know how to cite it in the article, then see Help:Link. If you have any other questions, you can visit the Teahouse. --I am k6ka ^Talk to me! _{See what I have done} 11:45, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thank you for showing me the sandbox link — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.34.155.29 (talk) 16:59, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Trouted

You have been trouted for: repeatedly undoing my Wikipedia edit for The Low End Theory. Georgie Porgie is a real song. It exists. A simple Google search will tell you so. I cannot give any source for this because I can't find any, I'm new to Wikipedia and I'm offended by your actions. You're being unfair. Now you're threatening to remove my will to edit? Ugh. Gringo1999 (talk) 18:53, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Gringo1999: Not silly, but rather it's in accordance with our verifiability policy, in that everything should have a proper citation to a reliable source. To resolve this issue, all you had to do was provide a citation for it and none of this would've happened. --I am k6ka ^Talk to me! _{See what I have done} 19:07, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Ginger Johnson Master Drummer

I updated some info on Ginger Johnson's page, the info was his children. He's my grandfather, my mums dad. Obviously i cant prove that at this time and i have zero idea about how this works. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.106.161.46 (talk) 14:59, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but Wikipedia doesn't accept original research. Since you claim to be grandchild but lack a citation to a reliable source, we can't accept it on Wikipedia until you can find a reliable source and cite it in the article appropriately. We don't allow people to cite "personal experience" as a source because it isn't reliable. --I am k6ka ^Talk to me! _{See what I have done} 15:02, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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sorry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.166.1.72 (talk) 11:38, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My post.

Im sorry, I thought I WAS using a sandbox. And testing and having fun. I was unaware that I was actually doing something and changing the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.116.73.21 (talk) 20:38, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vern_Monnett

So some lazy random editor (with an obvious bias against sidemen musicians) along with someone equally as lazy agreeing with him are all that is required to remove a Wikipedia article? This article was well documented, included plenty of easily found evidence of relevancy and a CLEAR trail of articles and sites like the ones listed below for anyone willing to take more than a cursory glance.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0598343/

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0598343/

http://www.allmusic.com/artist/vern-monnett-mn0001882729/credits

Restore this entry immediately. You clearly have no legitimate excuse to delete it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.174.226.48 (talk) 02:05, 30 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

1. I can't restore the deleted page because I'm not an administrator, so I can't undelete pages.

2. The page you edited was the deletion discussion page of the article in question. If you disagree with the deletion you should take part in the discussion and voice your status on why you think the article should've been kept. Removing other people's messages on discussion pages other than your own are against the talk page guidelines.

3. The discussion page is archived. Please do not edit it.

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But now that the article has been deleted you're better off going through the deletion review process instead. You might also want to read how Wikipedia decides how articles are deleted too. --I am k6ka ^Talk to me! _{See what I have done} 02:20, 30 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry for wrong editing

Sorry sir i am a new user on wikipedia and do not knew how to edit it i thought that i have to label my name with it i wanted to make or give my ideas towikipedia

Yours Faithfully Hadi Raza.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.41.219.44 (talk) 18:38, October 31, 2014‎ (UTC)

Sorry For Wrong Editing

sorry sir/mam i am a new user on wikipedia i do not know much how to Edit i thaught that we have to mention the edit but i just wanted to give my ideas to improve wikipedia as i am a student i know much example so i wrote my sentences but next time i will not do that silly mistake sorry sir/mam Yours Faithfully --39.41.219.44 (talk) 18:54, 31 October 2014 (UTC) Hadi Raza[reply]

Well, think about it ;) You never see people sign their name when you read a Wikipedia article. Neither should you! It looks unprofessional, for one thing, and for the other, Wikipedia is a collaborative project, because editors work together to build an article, not just one person. Signing names in articles give the impression of ownership and as a rule, articles are owned by the community, not by one person. It also says at WP:SIGNHERE that Edits to articles must not be signed, as signatures on Wikipedia are not intended to indicate ownership or authorship of any article. Rather, the page history takes care of the need to identify edits with users. So don't worry about your work going uncredited; it is automatically done for you.

If you need any more help, why not go through our introduction, and ask any further questions at the Teahouse? --I am k6ka ^Talk to me! _{See what I have done} 19:50, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]