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The only problem with the change you just made is that it makes it look like Seven Seas also licensed the light novel series for translation over on the category page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rpapo (talk • contribs) 23:04, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
@Rpapo: Not really. Anyone confused about whether the manga or light novel are published by SSE can just read the article.--十八23:08, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for that work on Mami's article the other day. Just two questions though.
1. So, will you do a musical style section for LiSA? As I mentioned to you, there appears to be tons of interviews about her and coverage of her. If ever, what sources could we potentially use?
2. So ClariS will appear in two days at LisAni 2015 (side note: man it sucks that they dropped Mami for this year given that she had been a regular at the event for years, all she has left now is Animax Musix). Do you really think they will appear in person? Because something is telling me that they might only "show up" as their animated persona at the big screen they have on the stage, though that would be rather awkward to see, and could potentially "troll" their fans to the point of them suddenly hating them. I really do hope to be proven wrong though, that event they had last year was such a waste.
@Narutolovehinata5: Um, I thought that you wanted to do the section for LiSA. I wasn't planning on it myself, at least not anytime soon. I haven't done any searching around for interviews and the like that we'd need to write the section, even though as you say, there are bound to be plenty, though it takes time to find and then read them, and then figure out what can be used from them (in comparison, I think out of all the interviews I found for ClariS, only 2 had any potential to be used in a musical style section). Besides interviews, any reviews of her music would certainly help (I've only found a few of those for ClariS).
I do think they're appear in person in a couple of days. I don't know anyone who'd pass up the chance to perform at the famed Budokan, especially when you're still in high school.
This is almost certainly our "friend" pulling another fast one (happened before when it was fully protected). I don't see any reason to indulge him. SephyTheThird (talk) 02:32, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
@SephyTheThird: Ahh, I see. Sorry, I haven't followed any problems that have occurred with the article, so I wasn't aware of any past issues with the editor.--十八04:28, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
So I've been thinking recently about all the help you have done for Featured Topics so I decided to send this as a sign of appreciation. Cheers. GamerPro6400:17, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Hey Juhachi. I was thinking of expanding Eir Aoi's article. With the help of a Facebook fan club of hers, I was able to find a few video interviews with her by Indonesian(?) site J-Music Lab on YouTube. I know that YouTube videos normally can't be used as sources, but in this case, she talks quite a bit about some aspects of her personal life, as well as her influences, information that I couldn't find in her regular online interviews. My question: is it alright for me to use these videos as sources? If so, how do I cite them? Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew14:56, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
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Hey I'm doing some cleanup on .hack pages and I was thinking of merging this page back to .hack//Sign but I thought I'd ask first. Since there are only four disc listings they may look better using collapsible templates on the main page. I don't think there really is a need for the infoboxes either. —KirtZMessage23:01, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Notability is questioned. Although he directed two works "Kanon" (2002) and "Digimon Data Squad", he does not even have an article in Japanese Wikipedia. Most of his other works have been on the level of episodic director.
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Ehy Juhachi, can you take a look here? That guy keeps removing half the content in the article and doesn't want to listen to reason, claiming his edit is not vandalism and that he's only leaving basic informations about the characters. I believe you can handle the situation better than me.--Sakretsu (talk) 15:58, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
reverted edits on anime due to unexplained change.
No problem with adding a ref. There are many people that do dispute the true meaning of anime and state, animated cartoons, made by us are anime, which is untrue. Wikipedia does not like slang. bootleged is slang for pirated slang belongs not in Wikipedia but on the streets. Try looking for a encyclopedia that replaces an article about the term you with 'u'. Also, why say DVD when change from laser disk to DVD does not have anything special, why not say optical disk? One major resin why DVD was I vented was the fact that its large storage, could hond 480P videos. Also, you know about fan pages created by fans. So there was no reason to delete the edits. Doorknob747 (talk) 19:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
reverted edit (12:31, 6 April 2015) on Yuri (genre)
Hello Juhachi, i tried to add more informative proof about yuri-elements in Excel Saga, so i added archived link (yuricon's list), but it was reverted by another user, with explaining: "You inserted a reference template into the template of another reference".
Can you take a look and answer:
Is yuricon's list a reliable source? Was my adding of this link to a reference 106 really incorrect?
P.S.
Now are Angel’s Drop and Octave with two different interwiki-templates, it's not good optically, better if one interwiki-template will be used for both.
Well, they finally showed their bodies... but not their faces. Well, there's always next time. Still better than silhouettes. Maybe they're revealing themselves step by step and will eventually reveal themselves? Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew10:29, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
Also, if he never replies, I have the option of looking for people who went to Animax Carnival Malaysia and took pictures there, and see if anyone's willing to donate pictures for Mami's article. Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew14:13, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
I've received a PM from him on Flickr and he said he's re-licensed the pics under CC-BY-SA. Should he still go through OTRS? Or otherwise the pics are good to go? Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew03:05, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
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The restructure might work. But I'm wondering. Do you think we should get outside opinions that aren't part of the projects informed? GamerPro6400:27, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks and sorry for fixing my errors so many times. I didn't check "adaption" although it sounds weird to me, is "adaptation" preferred? Bass-Kuroi (talk) 23:56, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
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Broadcast times
There was a discussion I started about a year ago regarding broadcast dates (check the archives). Apparently the consensus (albeit, as the closer admitted, a loose consensus) was to use a format which gives the official broadcast date, with a note stating that in reality, the show premiered on the date after the advertised premiere date (an example being Charlotte (anime). However, save for a sizable minority of articles, the consensus was never implemented, one possible reason being the discussion was closed when the discussion was already in the archives, meaning few people were probably able to see it, and another factor could be the fact that Ryulong, the original proponent of this format, was banned in the wake of the Gamergate arbitration case. As of late, most shows remain in the pre-consensus format, showing an airdate which does not indicate whether or not it actually aired on the advertised date. I'm planning to start another discussion on how to handle this issue (as I've already mentioned, the discussion which did reach a consensus had, according to the closer, a weak consensus). This discussion would again discuss the issue, with the goal of having a standard format for broadcast dates in articles (the format would be decided in the discussion). What do you think? Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew03:00, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: I think it would be a good idea to finally standardize it. It's been going on for too long, and I've noticed that recently the Japanese Wikipedia is starting to switch over to the actual dates instead of the "official" ones when listing the broadcast times for articles, and then there are websites like Anipla which use the actual dates (compare with the official dates) or the Agency of Cultural Affairs's own database which also uses the actual dates (compare with the official dates).--十八19:56, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, lurking but it's a topic I've been active in. A lot of the recent shows still continue to use and abuse the broadcast date, so even if the actual date becomes standard, there will be footnotes needed. Question then becomes where to sprinkle such footnotes (Japanese episode list header? Infobox? First mention in article? Every mention?) and whether the footnote should provide a citation to the schedule and actual schedule (I'm finding that the efn / notelist format allows for references within notes ) or whether citing Media Arts DB supercedes that. Similarly on the English broadcasts on Toonami Adult Swim, they use Saturday late-night dates for all their premiere announcements instead of the actual Sunday early mornings. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:15, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
@Juhachi:@AngusWOOF: I'm in favor of a modification to the original proposal: airdates with footnotes, but instead of showing the official airdate with a footnote, I would prefer instead showing the actual airdate, with a footnote explaining the official airdate. However, the footnote is only necessary if the show actually airs at or after midnight, meaning articles such as Love Live! and Log Horizon shouldn't be affected. As for the position of the footnote, perhaps the could be added to the infobox and at the first mention in an article. Of course, the proper venue for this topic should be WT:ANIME; I currently don't have access to a computer (I'm making this edit from a tablet) so it would be much appreciated if either of you start a discussion in my place. Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew09:51, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
I was looking for someone who knew Japanese, and your user page says you do. I was wondering if you could give me a hand, and tell me how you would write the name of the author (河端ジュン一) of this book in English. Thanks! G S Palmer (talk • contribs) 23:46, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
I'm the one that recently made some edits to Classroom Crisis, of which you came in and reverted some. I just had two questions: one about your edit, and another about citing information in the article.
1. In your edit to Classroom Crisis, your edit summary only talked about your removal of the star from the infobox (which I understand), but yet you also removed the paragraph I made talking about how the anime got announced/revealed. What was the reason why you removed that paragraph? Was it not formatted correctly? I felt it added a bit of nice background to the anime. I would've added more information if more was available, but I have not yet found any (on English sites).
2. I noticed on the Monthly Girls' Nozaki-kun page, there's a section called "Works cited" and lists the manga chapters and anime episodes they got some information from. If I'm sourcing some material (such as character information and episode summaries, although some of that also comes from the official English website) for the article from the episodes, should such a section be added as well?
Thank you for your time, and also thank you for all the help and work you've been doing. I've seen your name come up quite a number of times in article histories for articles I've worked on, and you've really helped to make the articles better, and make the whole Anime and Manga section consistent in style (I'll admit I have difficulty remembering if the <ref> parts go before or after the punctuation, so I do thank you for fixing those errors when I make them). JaykeBird (talk) 04:12, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
@JaykeBird: Regarding Classroom Crisis, I removed the bit about when it was announced simply because Wikipedia articles on media often have the tendency to include such play-by-play information as it's revealed, which I object to since I see it as fluff, to be honest. In other words, this type of information tends to focus on what was specifically revealed in a promotional image or in some random TV commercial before something airs, which by their very nature are meant to merely tease the audience into wanting to watch the series i.e. they are hooks to entice interest. That is not what I would consider encyclopedic content. When it comes to the development of a given series/media, what's really important is who made it, and how they went about making it (the development process), not what some group thought would hook the most people.
Regarding Monthly Girls' Nozaki-kun, if you did something similar to Classroom Crisis, I've typically only seen that done for character descriptions (and really, it's not like those kinds of primary sources would be appropriate anywhere else in the article anyway). Since Classroom Crisis is an original anime, citing the character descriptions by using the episodes would be fine. Just keep in mind that these are meant to be descriptions of their characters, not necessarily a description of what happens to them over the course of a series (i.e. plot summary), since the episode summaries typically take care of any important information. Wikipedia editors have a tendency to bloat character descriptions with such material, and that just simply adds too much in-universe detail to a page where it is not needed. And as an aside, <ref> always goes after the punctuation, never before; and no spaces between the punctuation and the <ref>.--十八07:17, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Alright, I can understand you removing that bit then. Makes a lot of sense.
I wasn't planning to expand character descriptions to become too bloated (and indeed, that is what the episode summaries are for). But as I'm writing the episode summaries using the episodes themselves as the references, though, the "Cited words" section is something I should add? (I also found a "Manga references" section in the B Gata H Kei article, which leads me even further to believe I should be implementing something similar for this article. Thank you for the help! JaykeBird (talk) 10:16, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
@JaykeBird: You don't have to add references to any plot summary, including episode summaries, because they come from the primary source.--十八10:24, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Alright, thank you for clearing that up for me. That was my biggest concern. I will continue to work to improve and update the article as the season progresses. :) JaykeBird (talk) 10:29, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
FT Director idea
I've been thinking about this idea of renaming myself as the director for Featured Topics. You think that would be a good idea? You would still be delegate of course. GamerPro6420:57, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Non-notable author for English wikipedia. Only notable work is HoneyComing manga adaptation as an illustrator. Other works have JA wikipedia articles but none of those have EN pages. Suggest redirect to HoneyComing.
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The term "Soku" (specifically for touhou) is more known by touhou fanbase to distinguish from Touhou Hisouten - Scarlet Weather Rhapsody, because this Touhou Hisoutensoku is commonly called only as Hisoutensoku or Soku, unlike the other games which have your acronym based in the initials (like EoSD, HrTP, LoLK and the others).
AngusWOOF has left some interesting feedback on the peer review. Could you help me address some of the issues raised there, particularly the part about splitting Keep the Beats! and her other Angel Beats! work from the rest of her discography? Thanks. Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew09:28, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
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Hey 十八. I'd like you to ask you some questions regarding the old Clannad articles you put up long ago, and certain terminology within it.
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I believe you created this page. I noticed that an anonymous user trawled the wiki and copied phrases carefully but without copyediting with a view to plaigarise it. Other warning signs include a lack of citation and the fact that the first sentences of external sources were the victim of the scraping.
I've done some copyediting with a care to not revert or start edit wars, and remain understanding that this has nothing to do with the rest of the article. But please keep an eye out for anon users adding content to the chapter sections as wikis and Wikipedia should remain seperate in content, focus and policy.
I'd like to cite a few examples of great sources that have remained entirely original while being on the same subject, which I enjoyed reading both sources for:
the Maken-ki page in comparision to the character pages on its wiki
the One Piece page in comparision to the universe-related pages on its wiki
I hope the WP page and the wiki can remain entirely original and that the page's content remains clear of WP:PLAG and WP:NPOV (probably the two biggest issues when this kinda thing happens).
@Speeditor: I did create the article, but as you can see from the history, I really don't edit it that much (I've edited it about 7 times in the past month), so I'm not really the one you should be voicing these concerns over. All I can say is that if you see some plagiarism, remove it, or bring up the issue at WT:ANIME so that maybe other editors can help, but there's very little that I can do since I don't even read the manga or watch the anime.--十八21:10, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
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I saw this edit. Perhaps it may be good to add UK equivalents together with the US/Canadian ones.
I think it's necessary for the reader to know what "Year 1/First year" means in the Japanese context but I'm trying to think of how best to do this. Australia uses this system which would have it be "Year 10" though it would be "Year 11" in New Zealand.
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@WhisperToMe: That's exactly my point. It would simply unnecessarily clutter up that article, and all the other Japanese articles that mention Japanese secondary education grade levels, with equivalents to other countries around the world. I think a link back to secondary education in Japan is about the best you could do. Besides, it's not inside the scope of that article to educate readers what a first-year in Japan is equivalent to in other countries.--十八03:03, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
Often I use article notes (see notes implemented in Kweilin incident) to include information that might otherwise "clutter" the main body of the text, so the information is there but doesn't interfere with the main text.
News articles often do include "equivalents" of things so their audiences would quickly understand what something "means", such as a foreign currency. Therefore I include currency conversions within Wikipedia articles, usually USD, GBP, Euro, and/or South African rand, depending on which ones used by English-language sources. I'd have to look at sources reporting on Japan to see how they "convert" educational stages for English-speaking audiences.
For example this page from the U.S. military refers to "a 10th-grader from Kakuda High School in Japan" and "A Japanese 10th-grader". This book page refers to a "10th" "11th" and "12th" grades in the Japanese educational system. This BBC page refers to a "year 11" in the Japanese education system.
I don't think English sources reporting on, say, France or Germany convert their educational stages into American or British educational stages but it seems like they do this for Japanese stages.
WhisperToMe (talk) 03:30, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
@WhisperToMe: Those sources do that because they're writing for a specific audience i.e. the writer is assuming which nationality will likely be reading it. Wikipedia can't do that because that would create a bias for one English-speaking nation over any of the other ones. That's why I suggested the wikilink back to an education article; anything outside the scope of what an article should be explaining is why wikilinks exist so the reader can understand if they so wish to learn more. It is certainly not the place of the School Days article to explain how the Japanese educational system is structured, nor should anyone coming to that article assume such information would be present there.--十八04:41, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
@WhisperToMe: Personally, the only reason why I would expect there be currency conversions in an article is if there was an RS that mentioned what the equivalency was, but only if it was also relevant to the scope of the article. Just focusing on USD or EUR conversions without a relevant reason or at the bare minimum an RS I feel is back practice, and further extends the systemic bias already rampant on Wikipedia.--十八07:29, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
Juhachi, your attention is required. Monster Musume is short for Monster Musume: Everyday Life with Monster Girls, which is the English full title of Monster Musume no Iru Nichijō (モンスター娘のいる日常, Monsutā Musume no Iru Nichijō). Both anime and manga have been licensed under that title respectively by Funimation and Seven Seas. Now, if you take a look at the lead sentence, you'll find out that 1) katakana Monsutā doesn't follow the general guidelines and 2) some people in the talk believe Monster Musume should continue to replace the full title in the lead sentence as well (and not only as the article name) because it is the most common name. If you take a look at the infobox instead, you'll find out that only the manga reports the full title. So, I started a discussion here regard to the problem about two weeks ago, but my words were misinterpreted as if I wanted to change the article name. Then today, Satellizer tried to do what I was trying to do in the beginning, and his edit has been reverted as well. I contact you since I know you have more experience than us all. If you have time, please consider to join the discussion. Thank you.--Sakretsu (talk) 15:45, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
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Hi. Would every linked article in the track listing have to ba a GA for a Good Article Topic, or just the ones that Mariah has an article for? (One Child, When Christmas Comes, Oh Santa, Christmas Time Is in the Air Again, All I Want for Christmas, Auld Lang Syne New Years Anthem)? — Calvin99919:38, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Juhachi, you pointed to WP:TVCAST. Please compare "Harrison Ford as Han Solo: The pilot of the Millennium Falcon" with the extensive walls of text in the Free article. Just to make the point more explicitly, please look at this. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 22:07, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
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So I've noticed you've been a major contributor to the Key video games topic for a while now, and that you know quite a bit about visual novels. So I was wondering, would you mind doing a peer review for this article? I put it up for peer review a while ago, but it seems like no one took a bite. The article itself is about a rather unique visual novel, but it still shares many of the same characteristics of other visual novels. So if your willing to do a peer review, I thank you, but if not, that's fine, I understand . Famous Hobo (talk) 04:34, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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Didn't realize you had nominated Charlotte (anime) for GA, which it has since passed. As always, keep up the good work. Oh, and advanced happy birthday (interesting how you share a birthday with Tomoya, considering you're the resident Key expert). Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew05:26, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
I think you and I can both agree that the Featured Topics process is stalled currently. Got any ideas on how to get it up and running again? GamerPro6421:11, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
@GamerPro64: Probably the only thing that would be effective would be to notify the relevant WikiProjects about the nominations. I doubt writing up anything in the nominations themselves would make much of a difference, even though in the past it has helped somewhat. Failing that, I don't really see much else we can do other than wait.--十八22:28, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
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I don't really mind one way or the other, personally, but I thought I'd point out that the example given on the template page actually uses "North American". And while it's true the code says "language", I would think what really matters is what appears in the article itself? Here, it indeed is the North American release. Not relevant here (yet?), but I wonder what Wikipedia's policies are when it comes to multiple English language (NA, UK, etc) releases... Erigu (talk) 08:34, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
@Erigu: Although there are (oddly enough) examples of "North American" in that field on the template's page, I was simply going by the code, which states on the same page: "SecondLanguage: This is the licensed language." I don't feel that "North American" is correct based on that. Even if there were multiple English regions, it would still be English, but you'd add (NA) or (UK) after the release dates and ISBNs to distinguish them.--十八09:09, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Ah, another thing (sorry again): I thought you were supposed to quote the title / name of the web article / web page as is, in the "title" field of the reference? I guess I can see why you would want to avoid all-caps on Wikipedia, but actually changing the way the site writes the name of the author? Erigu (talk) 12:09, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
@Erigu: To me, it's more important to be internally consistent than anything. WP:ALLCAPS should apply to all things, including references, and Nisio Isin should be consistent since that's how it's rendered on Wikipedia.--十八12:27, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
