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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Honolulu Volcanics you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Kingsif -- Kingsif (talk) 19:21, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
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Some development will be slower than planned. This is because of the current pandemic. You can see the new deployment guidelines. This is to avoid risks when some persons could be unavailable.
There was a problem when adding interwiki links. The tool you use to add interwiki links could suggest the wrong project to link to. This has now been fixed. [1][2]
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The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 March. It will be on all wikis from 26 March (calendar).
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@SandyGeorgia: Huh. Thanks for that. What a funny coincidence, that the highest mouse is on a mountain that features one of the highest cemeteries. I was vaguely reminded of my university days when I did occasionally work with laboratory mice ... although I took care to make sure I didn't hold them too long. Catching them was always the hard bit. I figure that if the preprint article is formally published this year, a mention will go into Llullaillaco on Christmas (when I do my yearly mass-update of articles). Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:02, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
TFA
Thank you today for Ubinas, "about a volcano in Peru, which has had historical eruptions and is currently considered to be the most active volcano there (not sure if it has been supplanted by Sabancaya at any point). Apparently before 2006-2007 the region was ill-prepared for eruptions at Ubinas and the issues were remedied in a very short time frame. It is close to Huaynaputina and geologically related to it as well; these two volcanoes have had large historical eruptions, including Huaynaputina's 1600 eruption that is the largest in South America during historical time."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:27, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
@ZFT:Depends on the source. Stringently speaking Altiplano–Puna volcanic complex usually only applies to calderas just north or around the Tropic of Capricorn, but the concept is often applied more broadly to large caldera systems in the south-central Central Volcanic Zone and/or to stratovolcanoes in the region of the calderas (e.g Uturuncu). In the case of these two volcanoes there is the additional complication of the Lazufre magmatic system that appears to underlie both of them and which is more similar to a calderic magmatic system than to stratovolcanoes. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:45, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Your keep argument seems floored, article still fails GNG, I still don't see significant sources. And player still fails NFooty! Govvy (talk) 10:46, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
@Govvy: Originally that was the case, but Paul 012 has provided some sources that were not really rebutted except by a "fails GNG" non-statement. Failing NFOOTY does not override GNG-based keep arguments, as noted on WP:N notability is established by meeting GNG OR a subject-specific guideline. Perhaps "no consensus" is a better conclusion but I don't see how one could call it a "delete" consensus when a group of sources presented in the discussion were not rebutted at all. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 11:14, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Okay, I wasn't overly concerned, but the feeling of WP:LOCAL on those sources... Not much in the way of English sources. I felt the article would be okay on our Thailand version of wikipedia but not the English one. Govvy (talk) 11:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Actually, upon further review of the sources included by Paul012, GNG is likely met, so the close as 'keep' was right. GiantSnowman14:52, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Talk page watcher: WP:LOCAL does not say that some articles are only suited for certain language encyclopedias. That's a misconception. Notability is irrespective of language or location. What WP:LOCAL does say is that small local topics or places should be part of the parent article (not the linguistically related parent language wiki). Sorry, this is a pet peeve of mind because of its impact on WP:systemic bias. Cheers! Ocaasit | c16:14, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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Recent changes
The beta version of the Wikipedia app for Android can now help users add tags on Commons. These tags are called depicts. [3]
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The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 April. It will be on all wikis from 2 April (calendar).
Future changes
The video player will change to be simpler and more modern. The current beta feature will become the video player for everyone. The old player will be removed. [4]
There is a project to make templates easier to use. The next few weeks the developers will present ideas on the project page. You can watch that page if you are interested in giving feedback. [5]
On 31 March 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mount Hampton, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Mount Hampton in Antarctica was last active over 10 million years ago, but may still emit steam? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mount Hampton. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Mount Hampton), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Hi Jo-Jo Eumerus, there was an AfD taking place for Omar Alaa Mubarak that I wasn’t aware of. I don’t think the deletion discussion consensus was accurate since participating editors were basing their opinion on English sources while there was Arabic news articles covering him as the main subject (not through a father or grandfather). Can you send a version of the deleted article into my sandbox that I can work on?Bechtoll (talk) 06:42, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
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Slow websites for citoid
I forgot to get back to you about that citoid problem. I asked one of the devs to take a look, and she said that cambridge.org was working fine for her. Is it still slow for you? (Please ping me; my watchlist is hopeless.) Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:42, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
@Whatamidoing (WMF): I haven't noticed that issue anymore (the only issue remaining with Cambridge is that it doesn't see year dates). The main issue I currently have on Wikimedia is this one, which is intermittent but quite irritating. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:08, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
It's amazing that we don't see more complaints about slow connections, given the changes in traffic patterns (e.g., away cloud-based slideware in large offices to streaming video in residential areas). Or maybe people don't complain, because they notice that it affects all sites.
@Whatamidoing (WMF):It can't be turned off on the edit screen once the bug starts. It's an intermittent issue which crops out on one page, disappears there after a while, then months later reappears on another. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 19:13, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
And it disappears in mw:safemode, so the problem is in a user script/gadget somewhere, but which one(s)? When the problem appears, are you able to edit other pages? I think if the problem appears on page #1, and you turn off syntax highlighting in page #2, and then go back to page #1, it should still be turned off. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 19:20, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
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Problems
There was a problem with user pages not being shown properly on desktop. This was because of a bug. It will soon be fixed. [6]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 April. It will be on all wikis from 9 April (calendar).
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MediaWiki will use a newer version of Unicode. Some characters that did not have an upper case equivalent before do now. Titles beginning with one of these characters will be moved. A list of these titles can be seen on Phabricator. The titles will be renamed by the user Maintenance script. This will start on 13 April 2020. You can rename them before this if you wish and the new title can be different from the one the script would rename it to. [7]
Please reopen this discussion, or, better yet, simply restore the article. "Alice Hyatt" is the protagonist of Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, a seminal Martin Scorsese film with major award recognition, as well as a long-running TV series. Ellen Burstyn won BAFTA and Academy Awards for her portrayal of the character;
Linda Lavin was nominated for or won Emmy and Golden Globe awards for playing the TV version. To say that critical commentary on the character could not be found defies even the slightest credibility -- especially since cursory GBooks and GScholar searches turn up substantive commentary on the very first pages of results. This deletion serves no purpose except to embarass Wikipedia. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong! (talk) 15:15, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Espenberg you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hog Farm -- Hog Farm (talk) 02:21, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Tribe Capital deleted page
Hi,
I would like to add a page for Tribe Capital and I saw that it was previously deleted. It was advised that I reach out to you about the deleted page.
I'm not sure the contents of the previous article, but I expect to create a high quality, well-cited article for Tribe.
Please let me know how best to proceed. This is the first time I would be dealing with a previously deleted page, so your advice would be appreciated.
The article Espenberg you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Espenberg for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hog Farm -- Hog Farm (talk) 17:01, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Re [8], thanks for all the work you do there! I was wondering if there's a way to semi-automate the unshadowing of files that end up in that category, perhaps automatically appending something like "(non-free)" to the filename here? I'd appreciate your thoughts here, perhaps I can code something up that might be useful. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 12:35, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
@Mike Peel: I don't think that would be ideal - while non-free files shadowing Commons files is very common, free files doing the same is too, and sometimes deleting one or both files is the correct move.
Also, I think you might want to reconsider that bot unblock. Judging by the links Iridescent posted in the AN thread it seems like this isn't a one-off problem and having a more durable solution is needed. In my experience "issue resolved" unblocks in such situations tend to leave more problems in the future as the problem is not actually resolved. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:00, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
OK, it's just an offer in case you spot any patterns that can be automated to ease the load. The shadowing seems to be the core issue here, not the bot's edits, so it would be good to improve enwp's handing of that if we can. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 16:05, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
Well, the problem edits by the bot are the main issue discussed there - without them shadowed files would be rote maintenance. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 18:40, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
Greetings, L235. Given that all these deletions were six years ago in one cluster, I don't think that the topic necessarily has an issue that requires salting. Perhaps a second opinion at WP:RFPP is warranted. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:52, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Jo-Jo, I see where you're coming from. I was requesting because I had a hunch that this was part of a significant sockfarm that is not currently active but demonstrated a persistence over time, but with stale accounts I can't CU them and I don't have time to write up a behavioral report for accounts that haven't edited recently. I understand "someone suspects socking" isn't a reason to salt in PP, but since it has been repeatedly recreated I thought I'd ask at RFPP as well. Best, Kevin (aka L235·t·c) 17:31, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
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Recent changes
You can now use the articletopic search word on all Wikipedias. It searches articles by topic. [9]
There was a problem with the Wikidata database last week. Some wikis went down for twenty minutes. Wikidata and other projects showed error messages. Interwiki links were not shown, some tools did not work and other problems. Some of this was fixed quickly. The developers are working on fixing the rest. [13][14][15]
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The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from April 14. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from April 15. It will be on all wikis from April 16 (calendar).
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Some graphs have not worked on mobile. This will soon be fixed. [16]
The article tab on talk pages of redirects links to the target of the redirect. It could link to the redirect page itself instead. You can leave feedback on this.
For pages using syntax highlighting, the use of the deprecated <source> tag, as well as the use of the deprecated enclose parameter, will add tracking categories.
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Tuyajto Lake you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sainsf -- Sainsf (talk) 21:21, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article The Pleiades (volcano group) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hog Farm -- Hog Farm (talk) 23:01, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
I want to know that as recently you have protected one of the article Sandeep Maheshwari. As you know that SilkTork was a creater of the article and I am partner of him. But it was totally COI article. So I feel that I can create article better than him can I re create the same article as you are administrator of it? This is just for ask. If no I don't have any problem. Kashish pall (talk) 06:51, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Um, Kashish pall, I think I am not sure what you are asking for. Given how frequently this article has been deleted over the years, I am not sure that I would be the one to unprotect it. Also courtesy ping to SilkTork. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:21, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
There are not many times when I am unequivocal, but given the circumstances, and in particular that I asked Kashish pall to stop editing the article draft as we were working on it because Kashish pall is well meaning and enthusiastic, but lacks the appropriate skills and knowledge and is a very slow learner, my response is an absolute no. Kashish pall - this issue is closed now, and it is time for you to move on. Sandeep Maheshwari has borderline notability for en.wiki. What notability he has is very dubious, and is obscured by promotional aspects, and the sheer number of poor quality and self-published sources that mention him. Given the article history here on Wikipedia, any article written about him has to be extra vigilant in research, and needs to use impeccable sources, in order to overcome existing concerns. At the moment there are no such sources. There is the possibility that at some point in the future several impeccable sources will write about him in sufficient depth and with appropriate independent research for an article to be created. But until such a moment, no new article can be created. It is time for you to walk away from this, and do something else. SilkTork (talk) 11:18, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Tocomar you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Kingsif -- Kingsif (talk) 15:41, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
The article Tocomar you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Tocomar for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Kingsif -- Kingsif (talk) 20:21, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Greetings, Pigsonthewing. As it happens to be, being an admin means I can - and usually - do the filemoves myself. Incidentally, I don't think that one should always move the files in that category - sometimes deleting one or both of them is the correct solution instead (although it takes longer when you need to wait for a deletion discussion to complete). Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 11:23, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Anton Dohrn Seamount you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hog Farm -- Hog Farm (talk) 02:00, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
If anyone is interested in reviewing the code and making suggestions regarding coding style, techniques, or something else, please let me know. See phab:T234507 for more.
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There is now a help link in the upper right hand corner that links to m:User:DannyS712/Global watchlist, though it doesn't have the normal help icon.
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Linda A. Malcor (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I went to edit my Wikipedia page with information about my career from the last 16 years and found that it had been deleted 22 August 2019. Is there a way for me to make the additions and get the page reinstated?
Hi,
I notice that you have deleted this page which was published for many years on Wikipedia. Could you please advise why you came to this decision for a training organisation serving the North East of England?
Greetings, 213.107.186.71. Since it's a PROD I can restore it uncontroversially if you want, although you may want to address Unreferenced article about non-notable company, which reads like an advert. afterwards. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:46, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Yes please that would be very kind of you and I can address the Unreferenced article about non-notable company, which reads like an advert. afterwards. Thank you, Charlie Edward
Thank you very much - it looks like the issue may have been with the photos of the company aircraft. Where can I see any other concerns please? Thank you again. Charlie Edward.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.107.186.71 (talk • contribs)
