User talk:Jcb

See also User:Jcbos - Jcb (talk) 20:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

International Drug Mart

Could you please try to remember to add {{ConfirmationOTRS}} to the talk pages of articles with confirmed permission so that editors don't tag something as copyvio if they happen to miss the OTRS link in the edit history? VernoWhitney (talk) 12:46, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks, I will keep this in mind. Jcb (talk) 22:14, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OTRS isn't the final answer

Jcb, your comments on several of the discussions here: Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_files/2011_January_21 are that we have an OTRS, the images were subsequently moved to Commons. We had a single OTRS from Keith Law. Keith Law is user:velvettfogg and a subject of many of the photos. He states in the upload information that they are from personal collections and then goes on to include the sources (Pye Records, Walsall Observer, Express and Star, etc.), unless the copyright holder or its successor in interest affirmatively transferred the rights to Mr. Law his OTRS ticket is meaningless. I have pointed this out to a Commons admin who has deleted them but I wanted to make sure you understood this matter. If you have any questions about it, I'd be happy to explain further.--Doug.^(talk • contribs) 23:17, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Blockheads

What a long and tortuous process it was for me to get Steve Speight's photos of The Blockheads from flickr onto Commons. I had suggested to Steve that as a courtesy he might be given credit for these in the article. I now see that you have removed all six credits, without any edit summary explanation or any Talk Page discussion. I very much doubt that Steve will complain, and even if he did I guess he has no way now of retrieving his copyright, which as far as I understand it, he has now relinquished for ever. I am no lover of image credits myself, but the Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 Generic license states this: "attribution – You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work)." Am I missing something here? Thanks. 14:48, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

p.s. I see you've been more lenient with Adam Ant, and have given an edit summary explanation there. But I'm not sure why. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:52, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the misinterpretation of this text. You are not the first one and will not be the last one to get confused by it. The words 'the manner specified by the author' mean that the author can specify with what text string he will be contributed, e.g. 'Wikipedia user X' or 'John Doe (John Doe Professional Photographers)'. It does not mean that they can specify where this text string will have to be placed. Jcb (talk) 15:08, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I came across this credit because somebody at OTRS was refering to it and requested to do the same with her pictures). Jcb (talk) 15:11, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see. Yes, I think there's a very unfortunate small amount of room for misunderstanding there, that was not really made clear to me by the OTRS volunteers. I'm sure what you have done is wholly in line with policy. But do you think it's wholly fair? Is there no room for compromise? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:18, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think it's fair not to credit the photographer at the article page, at least as long as we don't credit the author(s) of the article text there. An author may have spend many hours to write an excellent article, but will not be credited in the article text. The user names of the text authors are one click away from the article (history page), it seems fair to me that the same applies to photographers (one click at the picture will bring you to the image description page). Jcb (talk) 15:35, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I feel I have unwittingly cheated Steve Speight from what both he and I were expecting. I feel he's given up his copyright under somewhat false pretences. What redress does he have? It's too bad. And I not sure I would have the gall to ask him to make any others available. Meanwhile, you seem to have missed one at the Adam Ant article. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:42, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I understand this is a difficult situation (I made some comparable mistakes as well at Wikipedia in the past nine years). Maybe the best thing to do is just explain the situation to him. If he gets angry about the situation, he may contact me for an explanation. If he mails to permissions-commonswikimedia.org and starts the message with 'to be processed by OTRS user Jcb', I expect my colleagues to leave it for me. Jcb (talk) 15:57, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's very reasonable of you. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:18, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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What did I miss?

What did I miss regarding File:Cindy Valentine 2013 -- Le Derrière photo-shoot.jpg? This may be the second time I've had problems with the Upload Wizard, I'm not sure if the Wizard is labeling the file license description with the desired selection. Anyway, how do we proceed?009o9 (talk) 12:44, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The file seems to have been uploaded correctly. Jcb (talk) 22:07, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

restoring edits from blocked editor

Hi, I noticed with this edit [1] you restored material that had been contributed by a blocked editor who has been highly disruptive [2]. Could you say something more about your reasoning here? I understand that images are hosted at Commons. However, the edit--the link--was on EN WP--where she is blocked. Frankly, I think she should be blocked on Commons as well--what's the process for that? Thanks. Logical Cowboy (talk) 17:04, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

EN-wiki and Commons are indeed two different worlds. A block on one project does not by default lead to a block on another project. In this case there is a block at Commons as well, as a result of this Checkuser investigation. Apart from these two worlds, there is yet another world: OTRS. And that's the world I was operating from. I acted on a permission mail conversation. After permission was verified, I received a question why the file was deleted from the page anyway. I did not know about the blocks or the behaviour, I just tried to be helpful to a user. Jcb (talk) 18:40, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know about the block at Commons! User:DeltaQuad and User:Anna Frodesiak might be interested as well. I will go ahead and re-delete the link to that image. Logical Cowboy (talk) 19:00, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. This is a new one for me. Let's hear what DeltaQuad has to say. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:30, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

According to this page https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_checkuser#Newzealand123

the following are socks of NZ:

Alma Rosa Nieto (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SULutil • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser) (1 live upload)

Joescottiow11 (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SULutil • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser) (1 live upload)

Muscco1 (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SULutil • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser) (1 live upload)

Stevenseven1 (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SULutil • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser) (1 live upload)

These four accounts contributed pictures to these four new, promotional articles by SPAs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alma_Rosa_Nieto

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Joey_and_the_Jivers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Nick_Cooper

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Box-n-Go

Maybe this gives enough to go on for some further CU and/or deletion per WP:EVASION. They must be by NZ as well.

Nice to see Commons has finally blocked her. I hope there is some way to share CU information across sites.

Logical Cowboy (talk) 22:38, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

CU's are allowed to exchange information with CU's on another project. There is a global mailing list and a private wiki. CU's of all projects have access to both. (I am a CU at NL-wiki). Jcb (talk) 23:08, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Feyerabend

Jcb, you recently applied OTRS permission to some photos of this philosopher - does the ticket also apply to File:Paul Feyerabend Berkeley.jpg? If so could you add it to that file? Kelly ^hi! 14:13, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thanks for the notification, this ticket applies to this file as well. Jcb (talk) 14:32, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Much appreciated... Kelly ^hi! 15:35, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

File:New Zealand Republic Handbook.jpg

I saw you added the OTRS ticket and am going to move the image to Commons, but the file has two versions in the history. Does the ticket cover both versions? Kelly ^hi! 21:01, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it does. Jcb (talk) 21:03, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved the latest image over with a new filename and updated the article in which it was used...would you mind deleting the newest revision? I'll then move over the older revision. Kelly ^hi! 21:10, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually if we have permission we should probably undelete the original image that was uploaded before being rescaled by Dashbot. Kelly ^hi! 21:17, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm an administrator at Commons, but not at EN wiki. Jcb (talk) 22:28, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Tagging sourced images as unsourced.

I've noticed that you have tagged a number of USAF emblem images on Commons as unsourced, although they contain source information. The ones I have looked at seem to fall into two categories:

Images that were moved to Commons from en:Wikipedia by MGA73bot2. This robot placed source information in the File History, making it available, even if not in the expected location. In these cases, I am also of the opinion that notification to MGA73bot2 doesn't meet the requirement to notify the uploader of the pending deletion, since the human being who was the uploader receives no notification.

I have also noticed some cases where you have not accepted sources such as 315 AW/PA. Although I spend some of my editing time trying to remove abbreviations that have common use within the US Air Force as jargon, this accurately identifies the Public Affairs Office of the 315th Airlift Wing as the source, so it's not impossible to identify the source.

I'd appreciate it if you would review your recent activity in this area and remove the erroneous tags you've placed. You should also look more carefully for misplaced source information before tagging images for removal for absence of source information. --Lineagegeek (talk) 18:38, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, in contradiction to what some users have been suggesting recently, I am not robotically tagging these files. Of course I have a look at the description field, the upload log, etc. For about 90% of the files I review from the maintenance category, I am able to fix the source information, so that it is displayed correctly. About 10% of the files get a tag. Some of them get repaired by other users and some get untagged by users without fixing the problem, which of course leads to retagging. In the past weeks I have not been the only administrator adding these tags to these files. Please be aware that administrators will always review the file manually before they decide to delete or keep the file. Until now, colleague administrators have agreed with all these taggings and many files have been deleted accordingly. Please be aware that thousands of fake emblems have been uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. The only way to filter them out is requiring adequat source information that can be verified. The requirement for files to have proper source information has not been absent at Wikimedia Commons for at least the past decade. Jcb (talk) 20:37, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Blocked in Wikimedia Commons by a troll and a sockpuppeteer posing as an administrator

I was blocked in Wikimedia Commons for 6 months by a troll and a sockpuppeteer posing as an administrator, for "using obscene language" to describe "Dear Jezza" (Jeremy Corbyn), an equally-hated as well as loved politician here in the UK (especially given his association with dubious hard-Left or far-Left characters with all sorts of dubious, veiled anti-Semitic views [3][4]), for trying to beat Theresa May to form the next Government of the UK...when was Wikimedia censored (Commons:What_Commons_is_not#Commons_is_not_censored) anyway?! This is clearly a political witchhunt! Anyhow, that's by the by...and I think I would need to leave a message on Commons:File talk:ANZUS_map.svg. New Zealand is only now one of the three ratified original signatories of the ANZUS Treaty in 1951/2 but no longer an actual member of the ANZUS alliance since 1986, because the U.S. said so (by unilateral announcement; after New Zealand unilaterally suspended activities in ANZUS, without prior informing or formally notifying Australia or the United States, in 1985), and the map is clearly misleading! -- 87.102.116.36 (talk) 07:20, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If Daphne Lantier blocked you, there is probably a good reason for it. There are no indications that they would have been a bad admin before the day they went off the rails. They were one of my best former colleagues if you ask me. I am not going to assist you circumventing your block. I have better things to do. Jcb (talk) 07:47, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

[5] sounds legit... -- 87.102.116.36 (talk) 08:15, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And is that her [6]?! I hope not, for your sake! -- 87.102.116.36 (talk) 08:28, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Fake coats of arms

You are very confused. I do not understand which is the problem that you see. Do you understand that these files are false? They are not royal shields. They cannot be in these categories, and it is correct to move them like " not official " as the rest of false images of these shields. I do not deal why you sabotage my work. I want a solution.

For what this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this or this files it calls "no oficial/not official"? And why this not?

I'm a user serious and respected in the Spanish Wikipedia, have created important articles there, this situation is very unjust. Lopezsuarez — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:C50E:6002:D500:61E7:80A8:E73F:B6C (talk) 01:10, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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