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Human Spaceflight WikiProject

Hi, I noticed that you are a member of the Human Spaceflight WikiProject. A couple of weeks ago, I proposed that the Space missions and Space travellers projects, which both appear to be inactive be merged into the Human Spaceflight project. Whilst this is being done, the capitalisation of the Human spaceflight project's title would also be corrected (ie. Human Spaceflight → Human spaceflight). The projects are all doing the same/very similar things, and in my opinion, a single, larger, project would be more effective than three smaller, and somewhat inactive projects.. In light of very little response to messages on the project talk pages, I am now sending this message to all members of all three projects, inviting them to discuss the proposal on the Human Spaceflight project's talk page. I would appreciate your opinion on this. Thanks. --GW_Simulations_{User Page | Talk} 22:45, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I didn't get involved in the discussion, I've been quite busy lately. --J. Atkins ^(talk - contribs) 21:19, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

STS-124

I was at the launch of STS-124. What focal length lens did you use for the photo you added to the article? Bubba73 (talk), 21:17, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I thought you had taken the photo. Looking at the information about it on Commons, I see it is from NASA. Bubba73 (talk), 21:36, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

License tagging for Image:Spiritofknoxlogo.PNG

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Oops! Added the licence - thanks for reminding me (automatic bot :)). --J. Atkins ^(talk - contribs) 18:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Replaceable fair use Image:Nova1_in_Flight.jpg

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The result of the discussion was Keep.

Disputed non-free use rationale for Image:Nova1 in Flight.jpg

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A new task force - ESA

Hello,

I've noticed that you are active in the area of space exploration. I just wanted to let you know that a European Space Agency task force has been set up to improve the presently very poor condition of articles about ESA and related topics. If you are interested, please join the task force here. We sure could use your help. Thanks.U5K0 (talk) 11:27, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

POV Tag

Regarding your tag on George W. Bush as Governor of Texas, can you expand on your thinking in placing that tag? I'm interested in cleaning it up but I'd appreciate a pointer to whatever problems you see with the article. The talk page for the article is probably the best place to discuss it. Thanks!  Frank  |  talk  21:26, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Skylon

Aeroshell probably doesn't mean what you think it does. The aeroshell is the outermost part of a vehicle (aero meaning air shell meaning outerpart- so it's the outer part that interacts with the air)- it is not a carrier for payload.- (User) WolfKeeper (Talk) 21:15, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oxford Wikimania 2010 and Wikimedia UK v2.0 Notice

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Please slow down

Hi there Jatkins, please slow down on the MFD nominations. It is very likely that most if not all of them will be kept that you are nominating, per many previous debates that ended in keep. You obviously have a strong opinion about the contents of userboxes, which is fine, but flooding mfd is not the way to go, perhaps a more general talk forum at Wikipedia talk:Userboxes would be a wiser choice of action. I strongly encourage you to stop nominating more userboxes for deletion until the results of the current ones are settled. Thanks, Keeper ǀ 76 16:22, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your note, I'll take a look at your subpage. I personally dislike political userboxes as well, from both sides. However, I think you'll find that the MFDs that you've begun, because of the rapid succession of them, will be kept. Not because they should be kept, but because there is an appearance of being Pointy in the mass listings. Some editors will look at the first one, disagree with you, and then go down the line checking "keep" on every debate. Just advice, nothing more. Again, I don't necessarily disagree with your rationale for deletion, just perhaps your process to arrive there. Cheers, good luck! Keeper ǀ 76 16:29, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Others are giving you advice on my talkpage, in case you aren't watchlisting it. :-) Keeper ǀ 76 16:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Josh, how would you feel if I went ahead and closed the discussions as either "nomination withdrawn" or "speedy keep"? I'd hate to see the drama that is teetering on the edge of a cliff actually take the tumble down. I don't want you to bear the brunt of that. I can make them all go away right now if you wish, a battle for another day? One at a time? A policy change that allows them to be speedied perhaps? This isn't the way to go. Keeper ǀ 76 17:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That would be great, thanks so much. Although my several was a fair few, I'll help (is there any particularly template I should use, or just simply a bolded Nomination withdrawn hatnote?). Thanks again. --Josh Atkins ^(talk - contribs) 17:23, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm closing them now. Would you be so kind as to go back to the user subpages and remove the "this article's entry" tags from them? Cheers, you made the right move here, for everyone's sanity (your own included :-). Now go get that laptop off the grass....Keeper ǀ 76 17:32, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've been following you removing the MFD tags from the articles anyway. :) ~ mazca ^t | c 17:35, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem!

Delete it if you can, I made it in the wrong location! --Enzuru 18:34, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well it turns out it's fine to be there. My fault, not yours. :) --Josh Atkins ^(talk - contribs) 18:40, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Userbox deletion

How can a userbox go up for deletion? That scares me. Tezkag72 (talk) 21:35, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The nomination was withdrawn Tezkag, as is said already on your usertalk. Move along. Keeper ǀ 76 21:55, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Spacexlogo.PNG)

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ip60 and 208

these vandal ips are vandalising lunar missions page please could you block them cheers 86.158.177.181 (talk) 15:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC) i think hes using seperate ips and computers hes a sock to push his POV through articles 86.158.177.181 (talk) 15:24, 26 October 2008 (UTC) Hi sorry to bother you but hes now sending me message and removing my edits on talk pages please could you report him to a admin i would be gratefull cheers 86.158.177.181 (talk) 15:43, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello sir, please see my edits to TecSAR and Asian space race and determine for yourself. Thanks. 218.111.30.84 (talk) 15:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

im reverting his edits because he is a sock of ip 60 the one who striked out comments on the talk page and suddenly came with ip218 and started editing the same thing hes definately a sock of ip6086.158.177.181 (talk) 15:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism from this account Wildman003

I'd like to appologize for any vandalism logged as having been initiated from this account. The responsible parties have been dealt with. Please do not enforce any restrictions? Thank you

No problem. That was just a warning, so it has no restrictions attached to it. --Josh Atkins ^(talk - contribs) 19:33, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please email the Larry Swearingen Support Group. Thanks. [e-mail]

AfD nomination of Robert Jean Hudson

An article that you have been involved in editing, Robert Jean Hudson, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Jean Hudson. Thank you. WWGB (talk) 09:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Larry Langford

Thanks for jumping in there with the heading levels. I missed that (because I had no clue it was supposed to be that way). I'm going to read WP: MOS right now. I have some backtracking to do. Ha ha.

Also, if you are one of the regulars on Langford, sorry to go in there guns a blazin' and revamp the thing. I hope I didn't step on any toes.

Cheers!--Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:06, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Troy Davis case

Hi Mr. Atkins, I noticed you added an inbox for Officer MacPhail. I don't think it is appropriate in this article, which is focused on Troy Davis' story and his serious claims of being wrongfully convicted for a murder he did not commit. Adding the infobox diverts attention from the main issue here - the mounting evidence of an innocent person wrongfully convicted and refusal of the court system to allow the new evidence to be weighed. I understand why you thought it's ok, but I object. For comparison, I checked out the article about another defendant who claims wrongful conviction- Mumia Abu-Jamal and there is no infobox there. And that article received featured article status. I do agree that we could add a picture of Officer MacPhail and insert it somewhere in the article (as was done in Mummia Abu-Jamal). So I'd like to reach consensus that we'll remove the infobox, and if we'll find a picture of MacPhail - we will insert it. Is that ok with you? Thanks, SelfEvidentTruths (talk) 05:39, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I completely agree re the claims of innocence (actually I totally believe Troy's claims of actual innocence but of course I have to keep that out of my editing so I'm not biased), and if you think the infobox is inappropriate then by all means remove it - I just thought that it seemed that when anti-Troy Davis bias was removed from the article, some people were claiming it was being changed to be biased in his favour, so I thought giving equal credence to both Troy Davis and Mark MacPhail, at least as far as infoboxes go, might have helped to in small part dissolve the dispute - but again, if it isn't appropriate, and I completely understand what you're saying about the Mumia article - then I have nothing against it being removed.

p.s. do you think we could get the article semiprotected? I did suggest it for semiprotection awhile back to prevent bias either in favour or condemning Troy (although the bias I was encountering in the article was anti-Troy Davis).

Hopefully when we get the news in on the 11th Circuit's verdict then the article's neutrality will be a little more robust and if we can point out that 'Hey, the federal court said Troy Davis does/does not deserve a retrial', then hopefully bias will be reduced as there will be little place for it.

I did read awhile back that one death row inmate (in the 1970s I think) had about five full retrials before exoneration, and apparently at the 11th Circuit hearing the other day one of the judges told Justin Ewart (Troy Davis's lead defence attorney) that they could reappeal to SCOTUS due to the wording of the constitutionality claim.

Anyway, time will tell.

--Josh Atkins ^(talk - contribs) 13:42, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I think semi-protection will definitely be needed once his case gets back in the news. Keep an eye out for a picture of Officer MacPhail, it would be good to include it in the article. Like you, I also strive to be fair-minded and neutral in my writing. If you compare the current version of the article to, say, the brief of the Innocence Project filed in the Supreme Court (it's in one of the first footnotes), this article is the height of neutrality and calmness.

BTW, how do you include in your signature a parenthetical with "talk" and "contributions" - I assume there is a shortcut, right? SelfEvidentTruths (talk) 15:25, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agree - if the 11th Circuit allow a new habeas petition or grant cert for a hearing at the District Court (or whatever the 9 Dec hearing was about..), then this will almost certainly need semiprotection (to be honest I'm kinda surprised it wasn't protected ~23 Sept.; I guess if SCOTUS had granted cert then it would have been) because of the news coverage. It's been pretty widely covered already, on CNN, BBC (i.e. UK so it's been picked up outside the US), etc.

re the signature - yeah, you just choose 'raw signature' (in 'my preferences') and then code it up in wikitext - the code for mine is:

[[User:Jatkins|Josh Atkins]] <sup>([[User talk:Jatkins|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Jatkins|contribs]])</sup>

let's see if this works :) User:SelfEvidentTruths ^(talk - contribs) 16:05, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As expected, a sockpuppet calling himself "HonorOfficer MacPhaill" is persistently vandalizing the article, putting in words implying guilt, removing the "individual infobox" and inserting a "criminal infobox," and removing any info which indicates innocence. I'm not Wikipedia-savvy enough to undo his vandalistic changes. He's really on a rampage. Can you help in reverting his bad-faith, POV edits and ask for protection? Thanks, User:SelfEvidentTruths ^(talk - contribs) 20:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try and keep an eye on bias from the sockpuppet 'HonorOfficer MacPhaill'. Thanks for notifying me. By the way, I just wanted to say thanks for all the work you've done on the article - having a lawyer editing helps it to have a more formal tone and more precise description of appeals and stays. --Josh Atkins ^(talk - contribs) 20:58, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AN/I

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DYK for Rod Blagojevich federal fraud cases

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DYK for Operation Board Games

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Troy Davis case

Thanks for helping protect the page from persistent vandalism. Your efforts are appreciated. User:SelfEvidentTruths ^(talk - contribs) 03:36, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. --Josh Atkins ^(talk - contribs) 11:19, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

{{unblock-ip|1=79.76.101.108|2=Range used exclusively by tilejoin|3=Raul654}}

In the meantime, whoever's reading this, please go revert the vandalism at Dan Bartlett (the line "Bartlett was the man who burned the cd that prompted the President to eventually take action during Katrina."). It's what I was trying to do when I got the rangeblock message.

"The ironing is delicious" -- Bart Simpson
"The word is irony." -- Lisa Simpson

. --Josh Atkins ^(talk - contribs) 18:17, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted. I have asked User:Raul654 to check the rangeblocks, it seems you are caught in three! Hopefully, you can get IP Block exemption. Is this the usual IP address or location that you edit from? Regards. Woody (talk) 18:24, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks :). --Josh Atkins ^(talk - contribs) 18:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the unblock request from your page while we're waiting for the checkuser to comment so that other admins don't come to look at the request. - Rjd0060 (talk) 22:18, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wow... that's a lot of blocked ranges. Anyway, I unblocked the /24. Jatkins should now be able to edit while logged in (but logged-out editing and account registration will be blocked). Raul654 (talk) 05:25, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm unblocked now, thanks for sorting it out. :) --Josh Atkins ^(talk - contribs) 12:19, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barack Obama's first 100 days

I saw that you undid the AFD tag. It has been replaced. You may want to comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barack Obama's first 100 days.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 22:00, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

International Space Station

Hi! You might be interested in the discussion at Talk:International Space Station#The Failed FAC. Thank you. Colds7ream (talk) 22:26, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lethal injection drugs

I reverted these from category "opioids" in category "anesthetics". They are not anesthetics, but designed to kill by potassium chloride. They are not opioids, but a mixture of a barbiturate, a paralyzing agent and potassium chloride. It may well be that for some junkies opioids unintentionally become "lethal injection drugs", but this doesn't belong here. 70.137.173.82 (talk) 08:20, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for correcting that. I honestly don't know why I put it in that section, as, like you say, none of the drugs are opioids. --Josh Atkins ^(talk - contribs) 11:40, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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