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Esra DalfidanDear JASpencer, I Strongly object to your proposed article's removal. Reason given is lack of notability. The article is about a very promising young professional artist, who's won vocalist awards in the Netherlands, has just released her first CD, and been several times on radio and TV. She is just starting, but continuing in a singing tradition of famous singers like Aziza Mustafa Zadeh and Maria Joao, who both have Wiki articles. They are cross cultural singers making music that appeals cross-culturally, which is something I and many others consider a very important element in today's western civilized world. I mean, how do you define notability? by the number of Google hits? I hope you reconsider your proposal. Jfreijser (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 18:04, 27 January 2008 (UTC) Garden Fresh GourmetWhy the heck did you delete it all ready I did not have time to defend my case!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thewiseeye3400 (talk • contribs) 01:59, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Buttiglione in MexicoDear JASpencer, I noticed that you erased in its entirety an entry I made to the Rocco Buttiglione page regarding his role in the Mexican 2000 presidential elections. I am not sure if you are a specialist in Mexican elections or recent history (judging by your excellent contributions to Wiki, I assume you are more into religious history), but Buttiglione's role here was significant and has been recognized in books and articles. I was actually surprised that it had not yet appeared in Wiki. Please let me know why you deleted those comments, as they seem to contradict some of the Wiki protocol, such as the stated official policy (at least for the English sites) of "Be respectful to others and their points of view. This means primarily: Do not simply revert changes in a dispute. When someone makes an edit you consider biased or inaccurate, improve the edit, rather than reverting it." Thank you, Ariasking
pr==Welcome== Hello, JASpencer. Welcome to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave a message on my talk page or you can check the help files as most questions are answered there (the formatting you've used suggests you may already have). Regards, Notheruser 21:57 17 May 2003 (UTC) Thank you for your kind words JASpencer English Parish Histories (EPH)We want Wikipedia to be an encyclopedia with our own content, not just a collection of links to other's content. That means that instead of having a huge list of links to off-site content (which can change/disappear and which we cannot edit) we want our own articles on the topics. So EPH could become a top level article, eplaining the topic in general while each link should point to our article which would probably be the appropriate place to put the external link in a designated link section, although could be made for retaining the external links in this form [[our parish history page]] [external link] -at least until our articles are all finished. This could become a large project. Hope this helps. Rmhermen 13:27, Jun 29, 2004 (UTC) Islamic Invasion of IndiaRemoved to the abuse page Article LicensingHi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:
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Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk) Your editsRemoved to the abuse page Word deletionsWhen you were adding the East-West Schism category to a number of articles that weird deletion thing was happening again. Individual words, like death, dominant, etc, were deleted and replaced with spaces. Maybe it's a search & replace gone wrong? Whatever the cause, it's a pain to clean up. BTW, thanks for adding the lastname, firstname alphabetization on the category. Cheers, -Willmcw 23:11, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
British Property bubbleAre you a property bull, as much of your "comments" felt very bullish, most if not all people feel that the bubble is about to pop soon. - 159753 No. I've actually Sold to Rent. Can't get much more bearish than that. JASpencer
Jesuit Alumni PageHello, thanks for the edit... I am just a bit sensitive that not all students of Jesuit institutions are Roman Catholics... there are a few on the list who aren't... can you think of a better category?--Timsj 17:27, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC) Your question on Humanae vitae talk pageDear JAS, I've seen your question on the Humanae vitae talk page: "What's all that about" referring to Flamekeeper's rant. So if you haven't found out yourself: The thing is, he's a monomaniac that goes all over the place posting the same text everywhere, calling for a posthumous trial of Ludwig Kaas and Popes Pius XI and Pius XII for their alleged violation of the principle he cites from Humanae vitae in the case of the German Enabling act of 1933. This "robot posting" is already annoying on entries related to the Third Reich, it is completely non-sensical to post it on "Humanae vitae". Str1977 23:51, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
Dear JAS, yes, you're right. And the situation is heating up. Could be so kind as to take a look into it. Battleground is mainly the Pius XII talk page, but he is all over the place, also on the "theology of Benedict XVI" page. Could you please answer the query I set up there. Thanks. Str1977 23:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC) Do you have any expertise that can help ? Famekeeper 09:21, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
Dear JAS, as you have met him before you might be interested in this: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Famekeeper. Str1977 20:04, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Beit JalaWhy should Beit Jala belong to the Category Bethlehem? It is just a neighbouring town. Dbach 09:17, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
Category for Sacraments...suggestionCould we rename the category "Seven Sacraments" simply "Sacraments"? Some traditions have more than seven, some fewer. KHM03 13:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
That's fine...we can always make a "Sacrament" category for ecumenical stuff. Thanks...KHM03 16:28, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
BasilicasRe your page on North American Basilicas. You might add the Basilica of Our Lady of Perpetual Help in Brooklyn, New York, if only as a link. I'm pretty sure an article is going to be added about it; at least mention will be made of it in the "Sunset Park" article. I don't know how to edit a category page. --FourthAve 14:04, 11 July 2005 (UTC) On further search, I discover there are duplicate category pages for Basilicas. yours: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Basilica_Churches and this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Basilicas Aggh. --FourthAve 14:37, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Internal references to German Wiki articlesSince you were so nice to respond to me, I give you an interesting question. How does one internally link an article from another-language Wiki into an English language one? This is the example. Look at my external link at the bottom of this page: Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Dubuque And the link I unsuccessfully tried to link internally, http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erzbistum_Dubuque I did it as an external link. It was fun to learn that 'Archdiocese' translates to 'Erzbistum' in German. Can it be done, internally, i.e., as a normal [open double brackets] blabla | blabla [close double brackets] bit?--FourthAve 04:51, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Catholicism and MasonryJust looking for another opinion here, you seem to have been involved in this discussion before - I think I have found pretty much explicit info (see the discussion at Talk:Catholicism and Masonry) indicating that KofC members cannot join Masonic fraternities: SarekofVulcan disagrees, and keeps reverting edits. Could you take a look and give an opinion?DonaNobisPacem 08:59, 28 November 2005 (UTC) Catholic encyclopediaFirst of all, a million thanks for creating the redirects for the "A"s. Most of the blue links there were created by user Hectorthebat who simply copy/pasted them from CE so they need wikifying and NPOV-ing. Wanna give it a try? Second - you created the Yellow Knives article as a simple redirection to itself. I presume it was haste, since you don't strike me as the vandal type. Care to do the article again? If not, I'll do it somewhere in the next days, no biggie. Dunemaire 22:54, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Eminenti Apostolatus SpeculaGreatings JASpencer, I noticed that you have been involved in the above referenced page. Would you please add a translation for “aliisque de iustis ac rationabilibus causis Nobis notis” ... for those of us who do not speak latin. Otherwise, no quibbles. Thanks. Blueboar 18:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Mel GibsonHere's an old clip of Mel Gibson that I thought might be a good entry to the Mel Gibson page. http://www.evtv1.com/index.asp-itemnum-851 Links to Catholic encyclopediaI've seen you've added a lot of links to this online encycloppedia, as well as creating a lot of redirects to articles that have these links. It looks unusual to me, is it really necessary to create a link to another encyclopedia for every one here? A sample of links I checked out seemed to have the same information in the wiki article as in the target,so it seems a little redundent to me. Plus, some articles are getting more than one link, and not in the normal external links section, which is worring as it looks indiscriminate. It also a little iffy, that many links so quickly to the same location, when the target has adverts "Get it here for only $29.95" at the top of every page. Comments? MartinRe 23:09, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Holy House of LoretoI notice you began the article. Thanks. It has been on my list for quite some time.--Rockero 00:17, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Freemason NPOV stuffCan I just say how awesome you are :p Thanks so much for joining the fight over there, your alot better at stuff like this then me :)
You've got a citation error in Kadosh...For Kadosh, what you are citing as "Pike's words" are actually his explanation of the claim made against the degree, and he goes on to refute the claim. He's saying "it became known" in reference to the Cerneauist Scotch Rite book, in the sense of "people were told that", not "it is a fact that". Also, the only thing that bothers me re: "The Builder" is that the title "Right Illustrious" (R.I.) doesn't exist in mainstream AASR, so it might also be indicative of a Cerneauist reference. However, for want of any way to verify or disprove it ATM, it can stay. TBH, Morals and Dogma is not the best source to use for anything; what's Pike's and what's not his is sometimes very hard to differentiate, but in this case he says almost right after your quote: "It will be easy, as we read, to separate the false from the true, the audacious conjectures from the simple facts." So at the very least, I'd ask you to reread the entire section and then see if the material applies to the point being expressed. MSJapan 02:35, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
FM Old ChargesNoted that you asked for a citation related to Atheism the other day. http://www.grandlodge-england.org/pdf/cr-update1-140905.pdf is the current Book of Constitutions for UGLE. From page 147 is a copy of the Old Charges which make clear a number of the membership issues.ALR 09:16, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Please check your WP:NA entryGreetings, editor! Your name appears on Wikipedia:List of non-admins with high edit counts. If you have not done so lately, please take a look at that page and check your listing to be sure that following the particulars are correct:
Thank you, and have a wiki wiki day! BD2412 T 03:56, 17 February 2006 (UTC) Christianity and Freemasonry editsYou've removed some stuff which was either already cited or readily citable. I realize there was a deadline set, but there have been a number of issues on other articles thatr have bneeded to be dealt with as well. I've responded to the site requests, so can you please rollback the edit and add the citations? Some of the info qualifies as common knowledge, too, IMHO, as it appears on almost every GL page (such as not accepting atheists). MSJapan 22:29, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
It is a Roman Catholic church diocese stub, but I couldn't find the template. Please add it. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 15:29, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Oppose it doesn't seem to work on my explorer. JASpencer 21:20, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
You recently wrote an article at Complaints which I believe you meant to post somewhere else. The content of the article was:
No Personal AbuseSee Abuse page. ALRYou should look at the jahbulon talk page sometime. Seraphim 23:46, 20 March 2006 (UTC) re Pike and sympathyYou posted the following on my talk page... You said that you were removing until discussion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Catholicism_and_Freemasonry#Pike_and_sympathy If your not entering into the discussion then surely you are happy with it? JASpencer 23:27, 20 March 2006 (UTC) Um... I have been entering into discussion... LOTS OF IT. See that section of the talk page and several others below it. My problems with quoting Pike are all over the talk page. I am not sure I know what you are complaining about. Blueboar 02:20, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
I 2nd that Blueboar. Imacomp 02:29, 21 March 2006 (UTC) JASpencer report on WP:RFIAs you asked for an update, I've archived it. As you've already noticed the checkuser request found you clear (though that was pretty obvious anyway, and I archived before seeing it). Happy NPOV'ing! Petros471 20:13, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
New Catholic EncyclopediaDid not realize that there were 2 editions... so I do have to admit that it IS possible that there was an article on Freemasonry in the 1967 edition that was cut from the 2002 edition. And you are correct that if this is the case, it is interesting... perhaps it mirrors a shift in the Church's attitude towards the craft that should be mentioned in the Catholicism and Freemasonry article? In any case... I will attempt to find a copy of the 67 edition and cite check that. I will let you know the results no matter what the outcome. I still think that we should cite the original and not the copy. On that I have not changed my mind. Blueboar 02:50, 8 April 2006 (UTC) Quotes in Citations and footnotesFYI - I have asked all the editors to the various Freemasonry related articles to comment on this issue. I think we need to reach a concensus on when and were a citation needs to have a quotation added. Please note that I can see situations where a quotation might be useful, and do not object to having one in those situations. I just don't think one is needed as often as you do. If we reach an editors consensus, we can do away with future debates on this issue. Blueboar 15:28, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
Unclear request on RFC PolicyOn Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Policies, you posted "Talk:Catholicism and Freemasonry - Removing quotation requests if inconvenient. 20:05, 8 April 2006 (UTC)". This makes no sense to me- even after reading a bit of the talk page I'm not sure whether you were referring to Talk:Catholicism and Freemasonry#The need for quotations in footnotes and citations? or not. Could you clarify your request? --maru (talk) contribs 03:49, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Vatican Documents and CopyrightsDo you know if a Vatican Declariation can be freely published anywhere? Can we freely publish Declariations made by the Holy See on Wikipedia? If so, is there a statement about copyrights from the Vatican we can use. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. [[[User:Simonapro|Simonapro]] 14:33, 3 May 2006 (UTC)] Can you help at the Opus Dei RfC?There is a request for comments at the Opus Dei Talk Page. I fear some anti-Opus Dei guys want to turn things upside down in the name neutrality. The previous editors continue to argue in terms of Wikipedia:NPOV, but the new guys seem to have their own ideas on how Wikipedia should be written. They are anti-authority; they resent the dictatorship of Jimbo Wales. Can you help and give some comments? Thanks! Walter Ching 05:55, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Reminder
Vote in progress to move Counter-Reformation to Catholic ReformationThis move makes sense because Counter-Reformation implies that that the movement was against reform. Rather as a reform movement within the Catholic Church, it is most precisely known as the Catholic Reformation. This is now the more favored term in academic theological circles. Please stop by talk:Counter-Reformation for the vote. Thanks, --Vaquero100 19:30, 13 June 2006 (UTC) Long talk pageGreetings! Your talk page is getting a bit long in the tooth - please consider archiving your talk page (or ask me and I'll archive it for you). Cheers! BD2412 T 23:58, 16 June 2006 (UTC) Reminder
Wikiproject Catholicism AssessmentHello, fellow WikiProject Catholicism member. The project has recently begun work on assessing articles relating to Catholicism, and you are invited to comment and participate. The subpage for this assessment is located here. Thank you. —Mira 07:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC) Charles-François BaillargeonI removed the redirect you had on Charles-François Baillargeon and replaced it with a stub article. If that is not the correct procedure, please let me know. Thanks! Stormbay 18:38, 16 July 2006 (UTC) "Relegating"JASpencer, thank you for your note on my talk page. I apologize if I have given offense. My understanding of the Traditionalist Catholic article is that it discusses the desire of some Catholics to return to the pre-Conciliar liturgical practices. While I agree with you that the central narrative of the Catholic Church in our times is the decline in adherants in the first world (and the conversion of Latin Americans in large number to Evangelical churches) in large part stemming from the degradation of the traditional Church, it would be a real stretch to say that most Catholics are pining for the Tridentine mass. In most cities there is just one or several Churches offering the Tridentine liturgy and they are not bursting at the seems. While Catholic 45 and younger have a strong attraction to the tradition of the Church and aspects of the earlier traditional forms, most are not demanding a complete reversal of the reforms. So, while a significant number of Catholics, myself included, identify themselves as traditional (which I understand to mean obedient to the magisterium and the liturgical laws) those who are Traditionalist (which I understand to mean practicing the Tridentine liturgy) are significantly fewer and fairly distant from "the central narrative" of the Church today. I would be glad to talk about this more, if you like. Vaquero100 20:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
FreemasonryYou've done a lot of research into Freemasonry over the past few months: leaving the Church's opinion out of it for the moment, what's your opinion? Just curious.--SarekOfVulcan 21:01, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
This has been deleted as an empty article. (aeropagitica) (talk) 23:47, 28 July 2006 (UTC) I started a new article on Jean-Baptiste de La Brosse the other day. He happened to be an early Canadian missionary who had an impact for his time. Would one insert this name at Wikipedia:Catholic Encyclopedia cat Missionaries or is that a list defined by certain parameters within the project underway? As you would see from my edit history, I do quite a lot of stuff from the Dictionary of Canadian Biography — DoCB Initiative. Obviously, there are articles that have priest/missionary/bishop/archbishop subjects. I try to link anything I start as thoroughly as I can. However, I don't presume to "jump into" someone's project without understanding how they operate. I have posted some other things on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Catholicism site but I'm not sure that people are reading and actioning stuff as happens on an individual talk page. Thanks for your time! Stormbay 21:16, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Catholic Collaboration
--Briancua 12:42, 4 August 2006 (UTC) all appologiesJAS - thanks for the kind appology on my talk page. I really was not offended as much as frustrated. We all come at the same material from different POVs, and sometimes it is hard to understand why another editor does not see things that I think are obvious. I not only accept you appology (although it was not needed), I return a similar appology if I have said anything that offended you.Blueboar 11:14, 6 August 2006 (UTC) BlanchardThe quotes re: the tiara, etc., are in the discussion that is now at the top of the Talk:Catholicism and Freemasonry page. I think all the info is there, though the ISBN may be needed, which is readily accessible via Amazon. MSJapan 12:38, 6 August 2006 (UTC) Silence does not mean anything except "I am away"JAS, Just so you know, I will be off for about a week (I have to go to out of state to bury my father, who passed away last Sept. This was the first chance the entire family could gather to take care of that little detail)... I don't want you to think that since I am not replying to whatever comments or changes you post I am giving tacit agreement. I'll see what kind of mischief you have gotten into when I get back and will rant and rave about how awful they are at that time. Have fun storming the castle! Blueboar 21:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC) Biblical scholar articlesPlease stop making them as you are currently doing. Each and every one of the subjects must have a "claim to fame" stated, or they do not belong on Wikipedia. (|-- UlTiMuS ( U • T • C | M • E ) 13:10, 13 August 2006 (UTC) HI mate look if you don't want your articles deleted you need to add a little for info to make it notable otherwise you are wasting your time. good luckJames Janderson 13:27, 13 August 2006 (UTC) hi cool man, you don't even have to write a great long article just add his birth dates, nationality, and why what he did was notable but try to avoid direct copywright. that should stop other users from deleting them. ok mate James Janderson 13:32, 13 August 2006 (UTC) hi just a little bit more needed see Giovanni Antoniano. Nationality and dates of life are very important.James Janderson 14:10, 13 August 2006 (UTC) ProfessionMight I ask what your profession is? I'm increasingly impressed by your approach to data representation, and I'm curious as to whether you deal in the discipline. Thanks ALR 15:33, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Why lots of sources don't equal validity....Much in the same way as it seems you are trying to say Jahbulon is bigger than it appears because of the sources available, on a similar note, I notice nothing regarding Catholics worshipping idols appears in the Catholicism articles. Google "Catholics worship idols", and look at all the sources, pro and anti. By your own statements, you would seem to be saying that this is also something that needs to be addressed, because it's obviously a huge issue. Now, I had personally never heard of this from anyone ever until it came up in a discussion relatively recently. So, as far as I'm concerned, it's not a big issue, nor is it a valid one. Then again, it is all over the Internet. In short, Catholics and idols is precisely the same situation as Masons and Jahbulon, and I have a feeling the outcome is exactly the same: all the claimants who think Catholics worship idols don't really understand what it means to be Catholic, just as the claimants regarding Jahbulon don't know what it means to be a Royal Arch Mason, or a Mason at all. The parallels bear consideration. MSJapan 19:08, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
AFD removalJAS... I have no objection to your removing the AFD box on the Jahbulon article... I just wonder if it was correct to do so by wiki rules. We have not yet recieved an official response to my withdrawal of the AFD nomination. Just wanted to point that out. As far as I am concerned deleting it is fine. Blueboar 20:02, 19 August 2006 (UTC) No need to put it back... we can do so if we are yelled at. :>) Blueboar 20:15, 19 August 2006 (UTC) DYK
Catholicism and Freemasonry updatedI added in all the stuff I could from the "article-ready" section of the to-do list, but I didn't know where to put the last two. Can you check everything over and make sure it's where it should be? MSJapan 20:55, 28 August 2006 (UTC) SimonYou might also want to be aware that this is not the first issue with him, but you might not remember the others. He has often engaged in circular arguments that have gone nowhere, and has refused to take citations as legitimate (at which point said items violate NOR, in his view). Before you go any further with this, I suggest you view his contribution history. MSJapan 23:45, 29 August 2006 (UTC) Just a few things about me that MSJapan has misrepresented. My name is not Simon. My username is Simonapro. Second of all I created the article Quaesitum est (among other things I do here). My arguements are straight and to the point about the use of WP:CITE style to prevent WP:NOR violations. I often ask for cites using the { { fact } } tags. (Simonapro 15:39, 30 August 2006 (UTC)) Hi. I like your enthusiasm for creating new articles but Why create the articles if you don't categorize them e.g Category:French writers etc.? They are of very little use to anybody if you don't do this. I am sure I have told you this before. Surely you want your articles to be useful to people. I mean they are limited enough as they are and don't really state why they are notable - no places of birth no dates ? Please begin to add a little more info to put it into its context and PLEASE categorize rather than stating just Catholic Encyclopedia. Your work could become useful if you could just to this. At least then a reader can connect it to French writers or some other category rather than just being a Catholic sub stubErnst Stavro Blofeld 18:45, 2 September 2006 (UTC) HI mate. Sorry if I sounded a little harsh before but from what I have seen from your latest articles they are much improved. Your article stubs now link to others and the reader can grab a historical, religious and indeed national concept of what it is about. Well done try to keep it up! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 14:50, 3 September 2006 (UTC) Dear Mr Spencer, While some of your edits to this article are great, many many are not. For instance, today you removed several sentences about the reform of the Holy Ghost Fathers seminaries (and referred to this on the Talk page). You state there "It has the ring of truth about it but I can find nothing on the internet on this so I can't cite it." Virtually ALL of the edits which I made to this page several months ago come from THE biography about Lefebvre by Bernard Tissier de Mallerais. You seem to think that a webpage is a better source of material than a book. In this case you are wrong. You have added all sorts of references to particular webpages (many of which are not very good sources), instead of using the major source which is cited at the bottom of the article. Please stop your edits until you get a hold of some books about the subject. Noel S McFerran 21:16, 3 September 2006 (UTC) There is a vote at Talk:Roman Catholic Church: A Vote on the Title of this Article on moving Roman Catholic Church to Catholic Church. You are invited to review it. --WikiCats 03:53, 7 September 2006 (UTC) I am trying tounderstand your approach at Marcel LefebvreI was looking over this page and I want to understand what you thinking here and where it came from. There is so much instruction creep here at WP I am sure you are familar with pages talking of all this that I have never seen. You stated:
If I understand you correctly, you would still remove these statements if someone stated that the information came from a particular book and listed the book ISBN. Is that correct? What are you meaning when you ask for a "citation"? Can you show me what you think is the bare minimum information need in an acceptable citation. Do you believe any of these statements to be unverifiable? Do you believe any of these statements are incorrect or controversial? And last but not least can you point me to where you got all these ideas from. I really must admit I am very confused by the way you are applying WP:V, but I can only imagine it is due to other instruction creep somewhere. It is clear to me you are trying to do what you think is the right thing. It is not clear to me why you believe this to be the right thing. Any help making it more clear would be greatly appreciated. --Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 04:10, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Some hopeful newsI have found a local copy of the biograpy in english! Unfortunately it is not at a library were I can have check out privledges. Luckily according to their online catalog, it is indexed. So I should be able to do this quickly. I do not know if they have any public access computers there either. So I am printing out a copy of the article and going to do my best to work this out after I get off work. If you have anything else you would like me to verify, or anything currently not in the article you would like me to look up please let me know ASAP. I do not plan on making a second trip. I have never been to this library so hopefully it works out and they let people off the street in, but we will see. --Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 13:52, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Update on Scottish RiteHi JAS... I just wanted to update you on the progress of my research into whether the Catholic Encyclopedia was correct in stating that the Knight Kadosh degree contains a part where they "trample" on the papal tiara... unfortunately, the result is "no confirmation" either way. I have discovered that you were correct in thinking that Inner Sanctuary is the name of Pike's revised ritual, but I have been unable to obtain an actual copy of it to see what it contains. I have also been able to confirm that the current (as of 2004) ritual does not contain tiara trampling etc. Unfortunately, this confimation came to me through a verbal conversation, and thus is not citable. Given my inability to definitively discover the facts ... I now must concede that it is at least possible that the revised Pike ritual contained the elements objected to by the Church. At the moment, the statements in the Christianity and Freemasonry article are techincally accurate, in that Magnum Opus does not contain trampling... but if you feel the need to re-write the section to reflect my lack of confirmation on subsequent Pike revisions, I will not object. If you are willing to put the info about the 2004 revision in without citation, I can assure you that my source is trustworthy. However, I do understand if you demand a citable source before adding such statements. Blueboar 15:56, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
De-prodHi. I see you deproded Brandon Darrow and Jack Mercer. Fair enough but I wish you'd put an original research tag or made the merge rather than just suggest it, when really it shouldn't be controversial. These two articles were created by a user whose sole edits consist of inserting stupid mistakes in biographical articles or creating these fake bios of characters. In any case, I've made both of these redirects and deleted the content. Thanks. Pascal.Tesson 00:29, 25 September 2006 (UTC) Re: Arnav TripathyI am returning this article to deletion status. Since there has been a contest to my original note, I will put it under AfD rather than PROD. Note that the article says he is a prominent High School mathematician. He placed 6 at MathCounts, a national mathematics competition, and a gold medal at another international mathematics competition. Both of these (and it should be noted, unreferenced) claims make him a top math student. A mathematician is one who adds original research or knowledge to the study of mathematics. This kid just does his calculus problems really fast. While it might mean a lot to him, he has done nothing notable. He is not a mathematician, even if the article claims it. He's just a really bright math student. Such persons are not notable re: WP:BIO. --Jayron32 16:31, 25 September 2006 (UTC) Barbara AtkinFair enough. She is one of Canada's top 30 power women. But the article still reads like a vanity article and needs some serious work. But I will no longer contest it. --Jayron32 16:33, 25 September 2006 (UTC) Calvin WilliamsI fail to understand what sort of point you were making by deprodding this article. It's not a matter of needing a citation -- I am familiar with the subject area and double-checked with references. It's a matter of this article not having any basis in fact and needing to be removed from the encyclopedia. At this point, that means AfD. Erechtheus 22:04, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi. You're the only established user arguing for a keep on this article, but I suspect it's a hoax. Would you mind double-checking? Thanks, William Pietri 16:24, 26 September 2006 (UTC) Ulla SandbaekDear JASpencer, As you should be able to see from the edits to this page, I am the so-called phantom poster (who subsequently identified herself, twice) who had to change the page several times to bring it into the reality-based world. 1st of all, the term "population control" was used - this is a perjorative thrown around by specific organizations with a specific political agenda to discredit efforts to bring family planning services to the developing world. Then, of course, it was put back, shampoo, rinse, repeat. This was rather disturbing given that the article on the Sandbaek report itself has a wikipedia page and anyone could have simply looked there, or followed the links to the source materials, to see what the report was really about - which most emphatically is not "population control." 2nd, I noticed the resources for the information initially in the entry included C-Fam, a front group for the Vatican. They are notorious for putting out information on this topic that is very slanted, if not blatantly false. There is no reason to rely on a heavily political lobby group when the actual report is available. Third, to highlight abortion rather than the other issues addressed in the report - its findings, the shocking disregard for maternal health in developing countries and development programs alike, the impact of the lack of reproductive health services on family development, community cohesion, and society overall... People familiar with these issues are quite accustomed to the way political groups try to discredit comprehensive reports and programmes on reproductive health by focusing on one controversial aspect. Unfortunately, the effect of the entry the way it was written would be to lead someone to think - "oh, Ulla Sandbaek - she's the one who wrote that report about abortion" or "she's the one who made the EU give money for abortion." Now, if you think this is just one person's opinion, I challenge you to look at the report and determine what percentage of space - how much attention it gives - to the issue of abortion versus the rest of its content. You will see that it is relatively minimal. A correct "short take" on the report would focus on its main points, not a relatively minor point that was found to be controversial by a handful of actors (it certainly was not controversial to most of the EU governments, almost all of whom support legalised abortion). Wikipedia is a valuable resource and its pages should not be co-opted (however unwittingly) to fit any group's particular agenda. If you think there is interest in having a short summary of the report based on its actual contents on that page, I'd be happy to oblige. Or, if the controversy is an important point, specify that it was controversial for just a few actors (the Vatican, Malta, and perhaps a few others, and list the many for whom it was not controversial). Otherwise, just stay out of it by steering people to the wikipedia page on the report itself and let people figure it out for themselves. I hope this explains the matter clearly.
Proposed Merger of Michael Lee Amesbury and Paul Andrews (British politician)I have removed your merge tags from these articles. The debate about whether Councillors are noteable has already happened and no consensus was reached (see Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Manchester_councillors). Thanks Thegraham 07:47, 29 September 2006 (UTC) Merging CouncillorsCould I ask Mr Spencer to cease and desist from attempting to merge Manchester councillors' entries onto the wards they represent. These people are largely self-important politicians and giving them further publicity on a page which is reserved for information about the area itself is inappropriate and unfair. I will oppose. --Hardylane 01:33, 2 October 2006 (UTC) I agree - I am reverting the changes. You should have used the merge tags (like you began with) and then waited for responses to them. Thegraham 09:06, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Katie Price/JordanCan I ask why you dewikilinked Katie Price in Stretford and Urmston? They were one and the same and it is a relevant link. PS I do support getting rid of individual substubs on councillors, and wonder if there is a way of getting a centralized discussion going on this. Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 11:38, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
DRVI have undeleted the history you asked for. --Sam Blanning(talk) 11:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC) Brazil - superpowerYou can help me to improve the article? João Felipe C.S 19:01, 14 October 2006 (UTC) Sure thing. Superpower in corruption and violence . Your edit to Wikipedia:Catholic Encyclopedia cat UnclassifiedYour recent edit to Wikipedia:Catholic Encyclopedia cat Unclassified (diff) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // AntiVandalBot 17:51, 21 October 2006 (UTC) Yr LoPbN editThank you for experimenting with the page List of people by name: Thoma on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Catholic Collaboration
Ariedartin JECJY Talk 12:52, 22 October 2006 (UTC) Removing Prod from Darla SawlerHi there - just curious to know why a mention in Guinness Book of World Records would be sufficient for a person to be considered notable. Incidentally, I put it on PROD instead listing at as hoax (which may have been more correct), but now it will need to go to AfD for deletion. The talk page by itself is a violation of WP:BIO. Risker 04:38, 4 November 2006 (UTC) This was a non-notable biography as per the criteria set out in WP:BIO. (aeropagitica) 07:55, 6 November 2006 (UTC) Your edit to Nicholas GilmanYour recent edit to Nicholas Gilman (diff) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // AntiVandalBot 18:57, 10 November 2006 (UTC) Pacem In TerrisReplied Blueboar 19:00, 11 November 2006 (UTC) Tory bloggersHey just wanted to take this out of the discussion on deletion of Tim Montgomerie and ask you to cool it - I don't expect to have to fend off personal attacks on my edits when I express an opinion, ok? --SandyDancer 00:34, 13 November 2006 (UTC) The history of this page was deleted by User:King of Hearts as lacking context. I asked him if he would consider restoring it and he declined. Due to the circumstances, I don't believe it can simply be speedy undeleted. However, you're welcome to either contest the deletion under 'Decisions to be reviewed', or - probably the simplest solution - write a new article that actually explains what Conservative Home is. --Sam Blanning(talk) 21:15, 17 November 2006 (UTC) Freemasonry and CatholicismI was in the midst for fomulating a point-by-point rebuttal to the revert, but thankfully I updated my watchlist before getting too far into it. Obviously I'm a newcomer to the page (but not Wikipedia), so I was not aware that the page was contested -- in fact, I just assumed that it was a page that wasn't maintained. I probably should've made made more incremental edits. Anyhow, glad to see that many of the edits are being accepted. I still don't like the terminology "the Catholic Church bans so-and-so" -- I just don't think it's an accurate statement, or at least it doesn't sound accurate. The Church is not like a state government where it can "ban automatic weapons, etc." enforced by law. It only claims to say what is or what is not acceptable to God -- the person then has freewill to obey or disobey. I will be away from the computer the rest of the week but will take another look when I return. LotR 20:57, 20 November 2006 (UTC) I've restored the talk page, but with the article I think the same applies as with Conservative Home, only more so - it was deleted by an AfD, and should not be recreated, at least not in its form at the time. Of course, if you've found sources that discuss the term (not just mention it) and consequently could write an article that passed WP:NEO, you can create a new article with those sources and ask for the history to be undeleted then. Otherwise you would need the 'decisions to be reviewed' section to challenge the original deletion. --Sam Blanning(talk) 01:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC) Amadia and AcraI proposed this article for deletion because it did not provide any evidence of notability (and no, I don't believe dioceses are inherently notable, any more than schools are). I also note that there's quite a lengthy article on the Catholic Encyclopedia about this topic. Had I been inclined to do so, and had you been a new user rather than the experienced one you obviously are, I would have added some of the material there to at least bring this article up to the point where it was more than a speedy candidate. Please don't think that I'm trying to get on your case here - I'm not - it's just that I see so many poor stubs on New Pages patrol that never go past being stubs, and I really believe that editors, especially those with some experience, ought to take the time to make sure their article has some relevancy. Cheers, Denni talk 21:55, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Dear JAS, do you intend to add something to the above article? If not, I will ask the admins to turn it into a red link again, so that no one is deluded into following this empty link. I have deleted the redirect added by you, as it was a double redirect and there can be no justification for redirecting this to the disambig article "Chenu". Please reply. Cheers, Str1977 (smile back) 18:35, 27 November 2006 (UTC) Jean-François Hubert appears to be an empty link that you created to the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Quebec. Do you intend to create the article? I had linked him to a new article and, on checking it I arrived at the Archdiocese of Quebec which i had already linked. Please advise and i will adjust my links. Cheers! Stormbay 23:15, 28 November 2006 (UTC) Diocesan InfoboxTo the WikiProject Catholicism members I have proposed at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Catholicism an infobox for Catholic Dioceses. I have not gotten any feedback on this proposal, so I’m culling feedback, advice, corrections, etc. for this. If you have the time, would you check out User:SkierRMH/Diocese_Infobox and give me some feedback! Thanks much!! There's yet another AfD on this article. Thought you might be interested. —Hanuman Das 14:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC) Thanksthanks for helping out on the Virtual Tax article. the reason I placed it in wiki is... well I was acctually surprised to not see it anywhere even after it had been talked about and proposed quite a bit of times. Thanks for your help =) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Maverick423 (talk • contribs) 22:08, 18 December 2006 (UTC). Award I haven't been enjoying Wikipedia much recently but your contributions remind me that intelligent debate and civility do exist here. Thanks. --SandyDancer 16:12, 31 December 2006 (UTC) Catholic-expand{{catholic-expand}} This tag is not useful when it is added to articles that are already based in part on Catholic Encylopedia, such as Feast of Fools. --Wetman 03:32, 1 January 2007 (UTC) Most Wikipedia articles would not benefit from 100 year old Catholic polemics. Just because a CE encyclopedia article exists doesn't mean editors should be encouraged to add it to Wikipedia. It's unclear what your motivations are, either well meaning, or spreading Catholic bias. There is considerable controversy and disagreement with adding material from old Encyclopedias. Why not the EB1911? The Jewish Encyclopedia? There are many old encyclopedias, why do you think just the Catholic one should be used? It is better to link directly to the article as an external link, and not tell people they should expand the article using it as a source. -- Stbalbach 17:12, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
JASpencer, three people have asked you to stop blindly adding this tag to articles that don't need it, and yet you continue to add it, reverting other editors removal of it, with no response or explanation about your actions. -- Stbalbach 15:47, 2 January 2007 (UTC) Catholic-expandTfD nomination of Template:Catholic-expandTemplate:Catholic-expand has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. --Stbalbach 22:53, 2 January 2007 (UTC) Catholic expandThe articles project link you put on the deletion talk page does not work Johnbod 01:00, 3 January 2007 (UTC) btw, you might want to check your user-page history for a couple of minutes ago Johnbod 01:41, 7 January 2007 (UTC) Links to the Christian Encyclopedia are SPAM & against WP PolicyIt looks like you added a few hundered links to the Christian Encyclopedia. As far as I know that is against Wikipedia policy. If you want to work on that encyclopdia you should go there. Jeff Carr 03:31, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi JASpencer, in the article about Christian Order the following sentence from the 5th paragraph, that is still in your original version, seems somewhat unclear to me: As its focus shifted to internal church matters the church picked up a number of contributors from within Traditional Catholicism and at the same time gained an international reputation. Shouldn't the word "church" (bolded by me) actually be "magazine"? --Túrelio 16:27, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Abraham in the Catholic liturgyHi JASpencer. I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Moriz Lieber, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at its talk page. Removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, but the article may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. 172.164.76.203 15:17, 13 January 2007 (UTC) SecularismDo you believe Wikipedia is a secular or religious Encyclopedia? -- Stbalbach 21:27, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
User:Angusmclellan/TPT is WP:POINT? Was the point edit summary that gave it away? Actually it's not; it doesn't disrupt anything. Adding it would be a positive step. As Stephen said, I added the PASE to Wikipedia:WikiProject Middle Ages/Resources several hours before that. I've been using it to de-{{1911}} articles today. I've never used PIR/PBW/pmbZ, but only because I haven't written any articles on those topics. As for the general point, I disagree. Pointing editors towards the CE will not improve Wikipedia. For those articles where it would useful, it needs care and attention to take the CE as the basis of an expansion. Far more than most encyclopedias, opinion is presented as fact, and no critical faculty was employed in many cases. Yes, it can be used, but it's WP:BEANS to point people towards it. Angus McLellan (Talk) 00:24, 14 January 2007 (UTC) please comment on content, not other contributorsRegarging your comments in Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 January 18#Template:Catholic-link, accusing myself and other editors of having an anti-Catholic bias or a personal disliking toward you is a violation of WP:AGF and very possibly WP:NPA. Please, stick to the actual issue at hand instead of yet again stirring up accusation after accusation against your fellow editors. — coelacan talk — 23:04, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Placidus FixlmillnerI have expanded the Placidus Fixlmillner article you created last year, using the 1913 public domain Catholic Encyclopaedia entry. I think it could ( and probably should) be edited slightly.Flowerpotman 00:42, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
I think you should know...A well meaning (and neutral I think) editor has undertaken to copyedit the Catholicism and Freemasonry page... I just thought you should know in case he changes something you feel strongly about. Also, as you wrote much of it, you can best explain what you were trying to say if he has questions. Blueboar 22:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC) HistSourceTfD nomination of Template:HistSourceTemplate:HistSource has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. --Stbalbach 23:46, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
For your information, Category:Articles that could be expanded from the Catholic Encyclopedia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) is nominated for discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 February 9. Best regards, Angus McLellan (Talk) 16:09, 9 February 2007 (UTC) Super job on fixing up the references. Well done! :-) - Alison✍ 22:21, 11 February 2007 (UTC) copied wikipedia articles on wikibooks...Left a note on your talk page there, but then noticed you haven't been active since October. Please let me know what you want to do... importing is no big chore, but we need to know the source article :P. --SB_Johnny|talk|;;books 01:36, 17 February 2007 (UTC) Church architecture'Alterations', I don't think will do. There was an undoubted development of particular styles using particular materials. Whether it was a development of which eveyrone would approve, I rather doubt, but tyhat is true in all cases. 'Advances' I could defend, but you may be right in ojbecting to it. An army can advance in into an enemy ambush, so it is not necessarily POV. However, I hope you will accept the compromise. Roger Arguile 13:59, 19 February 2007 (UTC) CE footnotesIt's fine to add a footnote when appropriate, but it seems like your adding footnotes randomly to sentences, based more on it being in the lead section and from the Catholic Encyclopedia, than the sentence in question needing a footnote, or having it actually match-up with the CE article. Have you actually read the CE article, and then gone back to the WP article and found a match? I removed an earlier footnote where there was no match between the two, it is poor quality work that will confuse readers. If your not sure, why not just add an external links section and link to the CE that way? -- Stbalbach 16:03, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Rejected tag on WP:CHURCH/WP:CONGThere is a move to label this proposed guideline, to which you contributed,as "rejected." Please add your thoughts to the discussion. Thanks. Edison 05:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC) Yes, much more appropriate. LessHeard vanU 14:14, 10 March 2007 (UTC) Jacob van HoogstratenDoes your redirect make sense? Please compare Jacob van Hoogstraaten. -- Kendrick7talk 20:34, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
I haven't noticed much activity on this page. Is it of any benefit to dab/verify persons on that page or is it occurring somewhere else. Just wondering....Cheers! --Stormbay 03:27, 9 April 2007 (UTC) Anti-Catholicism categoryIf I'm not mistaken, it appears you created the category. I thought you might want to weign in on the discussion regarding its proposed deletion. SubLibris 15:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC) I could use your help with improving Gerschenkron effect and Alexander Gerschenkron if you have time. I don't know this subject, but I got involved because a new user is developing an article under the misspelling Gershchenkron effect. He seems enthusiastic, but his English is poor, and I have no idea if his assertions are correct (ignoring his spelling and grammar). Gershchenkron effect will have to be deleted at some point, but I'm not sure when or how to pull the plug on this new editor's article. I'm not very experienced myself. Any help greatly appreciated. --SueHay 01:01, 29 April 2007 (UTC) I am curious as to why you reverted the new reference I inserted re Douggie. Although the original rference article makes for an interesting link to the present Tory organisation, by all accounts, it was only a trivil mention as far as Smith was concerned. I thought the Times article a 'better' reference of Smith and probably the "hitting of the headlines" which the original ref mentioned, and which could be C&P to any eventual article to be created on Smith. Your comments please? You may reply to me here. 219.78.82.238 12:33, 6 May 2007 (UTC) aka User:Ohconfucius
Catholic encyclopedia cite templateI noticed you created {{CathEncy}}. {{Catholic-cite}} uses the same parameters, and it also handles wikisource. Since you've put CathEncy on a lot of articles, I was thinking just copying the code over. What do you think? Gimmetrow 05:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
British property marketI have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article British property market, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the First time buyerI have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article First time buyer, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the Notability of Catholic Insight Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Catholic Insight, by Javit, another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Catholic Insight is an article about a certain website, blog, forum, or other web content that does not assert the importance or significance of that web location. Please read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 7 under Articles, as well as notability guidelines for websites. Please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources which verify their content. Redirect of Anderton, RogerHello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Anderton, Roger, by Graeme Bartlett (talk · contribs), another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Anderton, Roger is a redirect to a non-existent page (CSD R1). Notability of Hans-Hermann HoppeHello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Hans-Hermann Hoppe, by Bremskraft (talk · contribs), another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Hans-Hermann Hoppe seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. Little context in Roman Catholic Diocese of SehnaHello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Roman Catholic Diocese of Sehna, by Closedmouth (talk · contribs), another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Roman Catholic Diocese of Sehna is very short providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Redirect of Criticism, HigherHello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Criticism, Higher, by Schutz (talk · contribs), another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Criticism, Higher is a redirect to a non-existent page (CSD R1). Redirect of Criticism, HistoricalHello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Criticism, Historical, by Schutz (talk · contribs), another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Criticism, Historical is a redirect to a non-existent page (CSD R1). Hi JA. Was wondering if there is any more information on available on Judith Symes to make her more notable? As it is, the article doesn't meed any of the necessary criteria for notability and thus inclusion on Wiki. As it stands it would go to Afd without much opposition. Galloglass 20:27, 26 September 2007 (UTC) AfD categoriesJust so's you know, changing the AfD template from reading (say) "Remove this template when closing this AfD|m" to read "cat=m" at the end actually uncategorises the AfD. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 11:37, 28 September 2007 (UTC) DYK: Orthodox Church of France
It was nominated by Jackturner3 (talk · contribs). --PFHLai 16:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC) Dexter NorvilleHi - you removed the PROD on the basis that he was notable for winning the BBC Young Musician of the Year. Sadly, that's not true. He may have won a local competition of the same name (in Guildford, by the look of it) but he's not included as even a finalist at the BBC list here. Another clue is that the BBC competition is run in even-numbered years, and so there was no competition in 2001! Does this change your view on his notability? Regards, BencherliteTalk 21:25, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
The "References" section is for works that (unsurprisingly) have been used as references in writing the article. Any further works that should be mentioned, but were not used to write the article, should be placed in a "Further Reading" section, but in the case of most artists, the CE is not an appropriate addition here. It is very old and often out of date (as we have discussed before) and the entries are not very long. There will always be better biographies available online. Please don't add more of these indiscriminately. Johnbod 20:06, 7 October 2007 (UTC) Anglo vs Latin freemasonryHi JAS... long time since we last chatted. I am searching for a citation re: "Most (but by no means all) of the historical events that fuel the Church's criticims of Freemasonry are centered on the actions of the "Latin" lodges" (I am fairly sure this is discussed in one of the histories I have)... But I have a question for you. Can you think of historical events that the Church criticizes Anglo style freemasonry for? All of the stuff listed in the article (with the exception of the bit on german Kulturkamph) relate to "Latin" lodge freemasonry. I took out the line about the Church not diferentiating... does it?Blueboar 21:02, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Important issues at Catholicism and FreemasonryHi, JAS... as a major contributor to the above article (especially as it relates to the Catholic side of the issue), you need to know what is going on. As you know, I have been concerned about the amount of Original Research and lack of NPOV in that article for quite a while. After thinking about it, I called for some guidance and help at both WP:NOR and WP:NPOV. The reply was even more than I anticipated. Several editors are saying that the article should be completely deleted. That goes beyond my intent. I have a proposal for you... if you are willing, I think we could rebuild the article from scratch, under the guidance of a neutral mediator who can settle our disputes (and I think you would agree that if the two of us did rewrite the article, we would probably just end up rehashing many of the arguments we had before). Would you be willing to try this? Blueboar 21:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC) POV forkingRe: your comments on my talk page about Latin Freemasonry not being a POV fork. The problem is that I see it as being exactly that. That may not have been your intent, but that is how I see it. What else am I to think?... You create the article right after I seek outside opinions as to whether the Catholicism and Freemasonry article has POV and OR problems, and the answer comes back from numerous editors that it does... and in fact they call it a "nightmare" and say it has such serious problems that the article should be either deleted or stubified (expressing this opinion on both the article talk page and at the talk page of WP:NOR). Instead of engaging in the discussion, what do you do? You copy a huge batch of the material to another article. That sure looks like a POV fork to me. It looks like you were simply trying to preserve the material in question in different form. If I have misinterpreted your motives, I appologize, but I still feel that the article is nothing more than a POV fork... whether it was intentional or not. To assume good faith, I will stop calling it a "blatant" POV fork... but I am not going to stop calling it a POV fork. Sorry Blueboar 00:26, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
FreemasonryYou seem to have a good deal of knowledge regarding the subject. Like I said on the talk page you just responded to, I honestly think a page listing all the various Masonic orders and what they think of each other, perhaps at Amity (Freemasonry) or somewhere similar, would allow the individual "branches" to be referred to by whatever name they wish, and still be able to indicate whether they are "regular" or "irregular" or whatever. If you do have such information, I honestly think that if you created such an article, with at least the beginnings of the list, and just linked to it, all this controversy regarding "descriptions" would be ended. Just a thought, anyway. John Carter 21:39, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Before you spend too much time filling up the category... note that the broader is being deleted. I have left a message with the closing Admin asking if the Prince Hall cat should be speedied under the same rational, or if I need to do a seperate nomination. -- Blueboar (talk) 22:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC) E-mail?I noticed you don't have a valid e-mail address. It might be useful if people were to want to contact you. Just for your information. -- John Carter (talk) 22:11, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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Bennie Abrahams A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Bennie Abrahams, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the
Hey chap, if you think Grigor Dimitrov meets the criteria for deletion, how do you think about Vasek Pospisil, Jonathan Eysseric and Jerome Inzerillo? I hope you haven't judged to nominate the article because you have never heard of and cannot locate Bulgaria on the map? :-D No bad feelings, --Spiritia (talk) 23:01, 4 December 2007 (UTC) P.S. By the way, archive your talk page, it's rather long. Do you know that any time someone edits this page, a brand new copy is saved in the database, presently 165 Kb each. --Spiritia (talk) 23:04, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Your addition to List of FreemasonsJAS, this link, which is to a translated research paper, states that de Melo's membership is likely based on his social habits but not proven through documentation, so I figured I would ask your opinion as the adder as to whether you felt the addition should remain or be removed per RS. MSJapan (talk) 23:40, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Looking for some help...Hi, I am attempting to build an article on the Sphinx Head Society at Cornell University and the article has been flagged for deletion. As someone that has made substantial contributions to the secret societies, I was hoping that you could offer some support to our addition. Thank you very much. Cornell1890 (talk) 17:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC) West Runton War MemorialYou have jumped the Gun a Bit with yor Tag. As i happens I was disturbed by a power failure just as i had created this page and so had not been able to start th Text!! WHICH I HAVE NOW!!! please remove your TagStavros1 (talk) 20:45, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Catholic diocesesYes, please do. All the Catholic Encyclopedia articles are dated to 1913, but it is much better to have a dated article then none at all. I still have quite a bit of work to do to organise them and make lists, I'll try to finish sorting out Germany and France and Italy tonight if I have the time. Thank you so much! Benkenobi18 (talk) 23:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
James Albert DuffyA proposed deletion template has been added to the article James Albert Duffy, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the GOINo problem... BC&Y is usually reliable, so I am not sure why they got it wrong in this case. I am guessing... but perhaps UGLE did recognize GOI in 1972 and then withdrew recognition again at a later date? (knowing how these things tend to go, it would not surprise me)... All I know is that they don't recognize them now. :>) Blueboar (talk) 16:32, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
SeanieI am transfering this to your talk page since you seem disinclined to reply in mine or the article's discussion page where I would have prefered to hold this discussion. If you are in agreement please transfer this section to the article's discussion page so we can continue this discussion there.
JASpencer (talk) 14:19, 23 December 2007 (UTC) 1) If you want please provide an explicit retort on the following Thanks for the clarification. A couple of points. Verifiability explicitly precludes self published material being used as a "third party source". "Self-published sources should never be used as third-party sources about living persons, even if the author is a well-known professional researcher or writer; see WP:BLP#Reliable_sources." While I concurr that the articles I linked to are self-published (and how could they be otherwise?) they are not "third party", they are Seanie's own work and other examples of such have been quoted elsewhere in this article without any objection from yourself. Further Wikipedia libel states: "The goal of Wikipedia is to create an encyclopedic information source adhering to a neutral point-of-view style of prose, with all information being referenced through the citation of reliable published sources, so as to maintain a standard of verifiability." The material you deleted is NPOV, with all information referenced on reliable published sources (or rather on Seanie's own mag). Filoxenos (talk) 17:10, 23 December 2007 (UTC) 2) Please explain how the adjectives racist and antihellenic view are offensive under WP:BLP The guideline does not have any "offensive" clauses but does have a "do not harm" one. The NPV section of that states Neutral point of view "The "do no harm" principle does not justify the removal of relevant negative information about a living person. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and articles must be written from a neutral point of view. Thus, they must represent fairly and without bias all significant views and information (that have been published by reliable sources)." With regards to "negative" that is a PV issue and I doubt Seanie would necessarily see such traits as negative, except perhaps in the sense of publicly acknowledging them. With regards to "relevant" above any racist or antihellenic opinions expressed by a public figure (even an obscure one) can certainly be said to be relevant to his notability which derives from his public status of someone who expresses opinions. Hence said opinions are "relevant to their notability." With regards to NPV indicate if the following is acceptable to you " libertarian, conservative with some racist and antihellenic views." to be sourced in the relevant section by linking to the articles where the later are expounded. If not why? I am not sure wrt the picture's status. It comes from the same website as the original one which is GFDL. If you know that this particular one is different please say so and keep the original. Thank you Filoxenos (talk) 22:28, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for providing the link to relevant guidelines. 1. Wrt "racist views" I checked the article on Nick "I got a third" Griffin and he is not directly accused of racism either, although probably only in the sense that an article on blowfish doesn't explictly mention they live in water. Given that, it would be a bit harsh to characterise Seanie as such even though his positions do fullfil the UN definition of racism. 2. The antihellenism lies more in the fact that one considers Greeks to be a degenerated people unworthy of the name which were best applied to "the educated elites of the western worlds" who are the "New Athens". This echoes the Church's teaching of replacement theology and its view of itself as the "New Israel" a name of which the degenerated Jews are unworthy. So Abraham and Plato can be revered even as Seth and Dimitri are held in contempt. Plus he sort of gives the game away when he writes he despises Greeks. Personally I find his description of Greeks fairly accurate as far as such things go, but then I am an antihellenist myself, albeit a Greek one. 3. This is in no way an "ethnic argument" nor is it in any way antihellenic to compare Greeks and Turks who do have many things in common nor to praise or like the turkish people or compare them favourably to Greeks. In conclusion I propose to be changing i. "Greece" to "Antihellenism" 2. "Annoyed some Greeks" to "Has written that" (there is no verifiable source of the former) 3. After checking Nicki's bio I concurr that "with some antihellenic views" does not belong on the first paragraph so I'll drop it. 4. Removing the notabiliy tag, as explained above in thay his opinions are what he is notable for. Please indicate whether you agree with the above. Thanks. Filoxenos (talk) 09:39, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Character City notabilityI think your tag is a bit rash. See my comments on the talk page. Reboot (talk) 19:33, 30 December 2007 (UTC) I have denied the speedy tag on this article. Firstly db-bio does not apply to singled and secondly the group is self is clearly significant in the pre-teen market in Turkey and CSD is only supposed to be used for uncontroversial deletions. Please feel free to seek an AFD or prod it. Spartaz Humbug! 21:21, 30 December 2007 (UTC) DYK
--JayHenry (talk) 03:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC) Freemasonry/bias issueI have replied (I got logged out and had to come back to sign the reply ... always a problem when you write long and complicated replies). in any case... ditto for me on the good faith. I know you act in good faith... always. We may disagree strongly at times, and I know for sure that both of us have been quilty of letting our own POVs influence what and how we write... but I also know that there is good faith behind our interactions. Blueboar (talk) 17:38, 5 January 2008 (UTC) Rollback?Hello. I know we haven't always agreed in the past, but you're the kind of sensible, experienced editor who should probably have the new Wikipedia:Rollback feature, which has always been available to admins. Basically you can revert vandalism (only!) with a single click (and it will revert multiple edits, not just one like undo). If this would be a help to you, please drop me a note and I'll push the necessary buttons. All the best for 2008, Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:22, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
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...for your support in my recently closed Request for Adminship. I am more than a bit stunned by the outcome, which appears to have finished at 146 supports, no opposes, and one abstention. I am particularly grateful to Keilana and Kingboyk for their recent encouragement, and most specifically to Pastordavid, for having seen fit to nominate me. I also want to make it very clear to everyone that I have no intentions of changing my name again, so the servers should be safe for a while. In the event you ever believe that I would ever able to assist in the future, I would be honored if you were to contact me regarding the matter. I can't guarantee results, unfortunately, but I will do what I can. Thank you again. By the way, I know the image isn't necessarily appropriate, but I am rather fond of it, and it at least reflects the degree of honor I feel at the result. And it's hard to go wrong with a Picture of the Year candidate. Now, off to a few last tasks before starting work in earnest on the various templates I promised I'd work on. This RfA thanks inspired by Kathryn McDinaha's, in turn inspired by several others after Phaedriels' original. Hoping we can all keep such inspiration of newcomers ongoing, I am, sincerely, John Carter (talk). John Carter (talk) 21:50, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
I've removed the speedy deletion tag you placed on Alberto Coto; I felt that "two world records" was a sufficient assertion of notability. However, I do encourage you to put a PROD tag on the article, or perhaps even take it to Articles for deletion. I apologize for substituting my judgment for yours -- it was a close one, it looked relatively non-notable, but the "world record" thing tipped the balance for me. If you have any questions or problems, I'm at your service on my talk page. Accounting4Taste:talk 22:55, 15 January 2008 (UTC) Archdiocese of Merida
RE: Catholicism in the UKGood to hear. Taskforces work in a very similar way to projects; like a project it has its own page to centralise all the workings and articles. The main thing which makes the taskforces useful, is if we have a huge project like Catholicism, then having a sub-project/taskforce for the religion on the British Isles specifically, makes it easier to identify those articles specifically and work to improve them. - Yorkshirian (talk) 02:04, 18 January 2008 (UTC) Hi. With regards to the speedy tag for WP:CSD#G4 on the above article, I see that it has been deleted several times under various speedy criteria, but I can't find any sign of a deletion discussion. If I'm missing it (say under a variant name), please let me know, and I'll happily revisit it. I know that sometimes articles are recreated under slightly different names, which can cause their histories to get muddled. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:48, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Collectible Automobile magazineWell, I must say that it was quite a rude awakening for me to discover my less-than-two-week-old article on a class act magazine like Collectible Automobile so abruptly flushed before I could have a say in the matter. You call this a speedy deletion, but I think this was a hasty deletion. You claim that my article "appears to be about a company or corporation". How you ever came to that conclusion is beyond me. This was about a magazine, and I think I made that point perfectly clear. I even put the word "magazine" right there in the main heading, so I fail to see how it could be interpreted any other way! How does this have anything to do with companies or corporations? You also claim that my article did not indicate why the subject is notable, but I think I explained perfectly well the how and why of the magazine's popularity. It was (and still is) so good that readers asked for back issues very early on. I have written articles on, and am working on a book about, station wagon history, and have used Collectible Automobile (among other sources) as a valuable reference tool. If you need immediate proof of its significance, it's as close as Wikipedia's own articles. You can find references to Collectible Automobile articles under Hudson Jet, Chevrolet Impala, Chevrolet Bel Air, Packard Patrician, DeSoto, Dodge LaFemme, and many others. Therefore, I have no clue as to what I could have done (or failed to do) to warrant this move on your part, but if you had suggestions on how to improve my article, I would have appreciated hearing them before you took action. Josephew (talk) 08:04, 29 January 2008 (UTC) As with the contributor above, I am astounded you just put up recent articles marked for deletion without stating any reasons directly linked to elements of the article. You could have put in a reference lacking template, but this is just rude. A sympathetic contributor has now removed your deletion tag and added references, but I could not just leave this be without letting you know how I feel about this. What are your criteria for notability? I would really like to know. I'm not part of this band, heck I'm neither Swedish nor Indian nor a musician. I have no personal gain from starting this article whatsoever. I would've appreciated hearing from you beforehand. Gate-way (talk) 14:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC) Another editor has added the " AfD nomination of Joe LobensteinAn editor has nominated Joe Lobenstein, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not"). Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Lobenstein and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 03:59, 6 February 2008 (UTC) avolutionDear JASpencer, I'm just wanting to open a dialog regarding your suggested deletion of the avolution page. For the record, I am independent of avolution and a recent member to WP (so apologies for getting things wrong if I have done protocol-wise). My organisation has recently purchased ABACUS, however, I can't disclose their name as my comments are my opinion etc. I trust you understand. Anyway, some background ... my organisation recently chose ABACUS from various other TOGAF certified tools. As part of our evaluation process I looked at WP and saw various other TOGAF certified tools were present however ABACUS wasn't. Utlimately, that was my motivation for updating the TOGAF page and creating the avolution page. Now, in response to your notability query, ABACUS has been reviewed very favourably by Forrester and AMR research and large organisations like Capita, Serco, AXA and BT are using it along with (according to avolution themselves) 'hundreds or users in over 20 countries'. Which brings me to note that I did check the facts with avolution before posting the page and used some information provided by them during the evaluation process. Not surpringly they have been supportive in this effort. So I suggest we just leave the page there for a while and see who else contributes to it and helps to establish their notability. ABACUS really is a great tool, that just keeps getting more and more impressive the more I use it. Petersleep (talk) 17:54, 10 February 2008 (UTC) Another editor has added the Catholicism and FreemasonryHi JAS... FYI, I have placed a request on the OR Noticeboard for other editors to drop by the C&F article and comment on the OR issues. The hope is that some neutral third party editors will be able to explain where the problems are and highlight what needs to be fixed. Blueboar (talk) 16:45, 24 February 2008 (UTC) Hi Jas, An article which you have marked patrolled is in AFD discussion. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fr. Thomas Kuzhinapurath Inviting your valuable comments to this discussion - Tinucherian (talk) 03:38, 26 February 2008 (UTC) Speedy on Evolution as theory and fact/rewrite3You have never heard of sandbox articles? Where do you think the articles on Wikipedia come from? You know we are encouraged to write in sandboxes, not in the mainspace right? Ever wonder how the articles in DYK are so fully formed in the first week of creation? Good heavens. I am a bit irritated that you would try to speedy a sandbox article. Give me a break here...--Filll (talk) 22:05, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Well maybe I ran afoul of another unwritten rule here. I did ask when I first joined about a year ago about this and I was told it was ok. But now it is not I guess. So I moved it. So you can delete it. Go ahead and speedy it now since it is moved.--Filll (talk) 23:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Possible Twinkle screwup?Regarding this[3], it was absolutely unintentional and I have no idea how it happened. I've started a thread at the admin noticeboard to see if there's a known problem with Twinkle (a commonly-used editing extension, in case you're not familiar). Apologies if it happened due to something dumb on my part. Raymond Arritt (talk) 22:30, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm here to inform you that the page you created has been posted. Cheers! SynergeticMaggot (talk) 14:14, 8 March 2008 (UTC) This one too! SynergeticMaggot (talk) 14:45, 8 March 2008 (UTC) AfD nomination of Swinton circleI have nominated Swinton circle, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swinton circle. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Guy (Help!) 17:38, 22 March 2008 (UTC) Swinton circle + South African PatriotYour comments on Swinton Circle are appreciated. There seems to be an "agenda" here. The same editor deleted without debate a related entry on South African Patriot magazine following vandaliism and complaints from the same editor. Please can you investigate and perhaps add to the comments on JzG's talk page? Mark Hasker (talk) 20:23, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
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Penny MordauntAnother editor has added the Speedy deletion of Philip TartagliaA tag has been placed on Philip Tartaglia requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies. If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding Hello JASpencer/Archive1!
You are receiving this invitation because you are a member of one of the related Christianity Projects and I thought that you might be interested in this project also - Tinucherian (talk) 06:26, 24 April 2008 (UTC) Freemasons categoryInteresting. What if we explicitly limited it to the dead - would that help allay concerns? And again, we do have the List of Freemasons, most of whom seem to be dead. But I just took a look at that discussion, and the consensus was unfortunately quite in favour of deletion just a few months ago. Biruitorul (talk) 14:06, 26 April 2008 (UTC) Quote about WashingtonHi, you asked for a quote on Washington mentioned in the Leonard Neale article. I have given the quote which was requested on the talk page. I hope this is satisfactory. Dwain (talk) Your Help is RequestedDear JASpencer: Since you showed some interest in the Leonard Neale article recently and have had some experience working with Blueboar. Could you help out regarding the issue of the story that you wanted a quote for? I have read in several published sources that a story that has come down through the generations says that Father Leonard Neale was called out during President Washington's last night and supposedly baptized him. The newest evidence, which just came to light, that this story exists and has been around for awhile goes back to 1893 which is under a century from the death of Washington himself. There seems to be three main sources that have passed down basically the same story. 1. The Jesuits - whom Father Neale belonged to, 2. The slaves from Washington's plantation and their descendants and now 3. At least one line of Washington's own family. I don't claim that the story is true but I do claim that it is interesting and notable and has been around for a longtime and that Father Leonard Neale is one of the main characters. I have tried to work with Blueboar on this and everything he has asked for from sources, quotes and explanations I have given him. But this does not satisfy him and he comes up with another reason to delete mention of this story. I compromised with him letting him delete other interesting Washington facts from the story and adding that the story is not mentioned by Washington biographers but he is determined to delete mention just the same. I feel that the story is interesting and deserves a mention in the Leonard Neale article and since I don't claim that the story is fact but only that it exists and names Neale it does not fall under an exceptional claim because all I claim is that the story has existed and Neale is a big part of it. Your opinion would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Dwain (talk) 22:17, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Again it looks like the brief mention will stay so I'm sorry to have bothered you. Thanks for your interest. Dwain (talk) 22:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
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And what "unprovoked vandalism" would that be...that had you go to ANI and "suddenly discover" it was apparently me (which is your insinuation)? MSJapan (talk) 15:41, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
John Salza AfDJAS, I am a bit miffed at your insinuation that I put the John Salza article up for deletion because he is a critic of Freemasonry, ie that I have some sort of agenda here. I thought you knew me better than that. I actually knew nothing about Salza (I had never heard of him) prior to seeing MSJapan's comments about his credentials at the List of Freemasons article. So I decided to take a look at the article on him, to find out more. When I did so, I discoverded a very poor article... one that had serious sourcing issues and did not meet the notability criteria for authors. That was the ONLY reason I nominated it for deletion. With the sources that Dwain has added, half of the problem is resolved. So we should focus on the other half of the problem... notability. WP:CREATIVE gives the criteria:
As it stands, the article does not discuss anything that would indicate that Salza meets any of these criteria. I freely admit that I don't know enough about Salza to know if this is in fact the case... my point is that there is nothing in the article that says he does, and after a quick search I could not find any reliable sources that do either. If you know differently, please put it in the aritcle. As I have stated at the AfD... I will be happy to withdraw the nom if the article is fixed. In other words, my problem is with the article, not with Salza. Blueboar (talk) 12:38, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Notability of Gran Logia Valle de MéxicoHello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Gran Logia Valle de México, by another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Gran Logia Valle de México seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. Notability of Gran Logia Valle de MéxicoA tag has been placed on Gran Logia Valle de México requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article. If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. MSJapan (talk) 03:03, 10 August 2008 (UTC) your editing...is really getting out of hand, and I am reasonably sure you are doing these things on purpose. There is nothing that states all Masonic groups are inherently notable, or we should have 4 million articles to cover every lodge in the world, even if its got three people in it. The fact of existence isn't enough when topics don't meet general guidelines of Wikipedia notability, and you should be well aware of that by now. "Intrinsic notability" is ridiculous as well - the articles I tagged have nothing but a name and a location, and a homepage, and have been like that for over 8 months. Existence is not an assertion of notability, period. Policy states that clearly, so I would appreciate it if you would undo all those edits. As for Haas, I gave nine days for comment, and you said nothing. Everyone who commented was in agreement, and it's not my problem if there were only three comments. Moreover, there is no policy stating who can or cannot close a merger, so the one out of order here is you for stating otherwise. If you want to do something about it otherwise, take it to ANI and let's get it over with. MSJapan (talk) 16:53, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Notability of Grand LodgesI want to continue discussion of this topic outside of the ANI... (which isn't really the place to argue the point) You seem to be arguing that any Grand Lodge or Grand Orient, no matter how small, is notable simply because it is a Grand Lodge. I disagree, and my disagreement has nothing to do with affiliation. For example, I would not call the Grand Lodge of Russia notable, and it is recongnized by UGLE and many "Mainstream" grand lodges. It was started in 1995, and now has 7 lodges under its banner. It has perhaps 100 members total. It has not been discussed by independant third party sources. In short, there is nothing notable about it. If someone were to write an article on it, I would not hesitate to nominate it for deletion. Affiliation is not a guide to notability... because there are some Masonic bodies that will affiliate with anyone and everyone. The Grand Lodge de France is notorious for this. The majority of the Grand Lodges under their affiliation have less than 100 members. But it sounds impressive to list all those Grand Lodges as being "in amity". Grand Lodge de France is certainly notable itself... but most of the Grand Lodges it recognizes are not. To my mind, the key criteria for notability, when looking at Grand Lodges and Grand Orients, is size. Ten disgruntled Masons forming their own Grand Lodge is just not notable. Several thousand disgruntled Masons doing so certainly would be. Somewhere in the middle is where we have to draw the line. Your thoughts? Blueboar (talk) 22:36, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
NotificationI added a new discussion on Talk:Papal Documents relating to Freemasonry, so I figured I would notify you to prevent any assumptions on motive being made even though this is something I think you would consider a positive. MSJapan (talk) 21:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC) Catholic Encyclopedia pagesAre these pages needed any longer?
--MZMcBride (talk) 04:27, 13 August 2008 (UTC) DeletionsHi - I'm afraid I haven't been keeping up with the deletions. What are some of the articles that were deleted? And what do you mean by "history only undeletions?" It's humorous how the cowards scatter like cockroaches to get articles deleted. But it is also a shame that a few big mouthed zealots are so successful abusing Wikipedia policy and getting articles deleted improperly. I am currently working on an article on a author, to post, in which one of his books was given an Imprimatur. Dwain (talk) 18:24, 16 August 2008 (UTC)  You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. When is this going to stop? When you get your way "just because"?When are you going to stop this ad hominem nonsense? You have absolutely no proof that I have any personal bias whatsoever towards "non-Anglo-Saxon" Freemasonry, but you use it in every single argument you make on any XfD related to the subject. I want to remove a cat, and you argue that I'm biased against the topic. I think the one who is biased here is you, and I am sick and tired of being used as your scapegoat all the time because you can't come up with an evidence-based argument. MSJapan (talk) 05:42, 21 August 2008 (UTC) I removed the above link from the Jahbulon article, as it is currently a redirect to Freemasonry (as you are aware, being the creator) which is already directly linked earlier in the article. I then reconsidered my action, and reviewed Freemasonry to see which section might be a better link. However, I found no such reference in that article. I would suggest that you include whatever material you are going to before making such a general link, and better to link directly to the relevant section. Cheers. LessHeard vanU (talk) 19:39, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
EssayMight be of interest: User:Charles Matthews/Merging encyclopedias. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:05, 26 August 2008 (UTC) A realizationJAS, I want to share an observation with you. These comments are made as good faith criticism in the hopes that perhaps it will lessen the antagonisms that exist between us. Take it or leave it as you wish.... I note that you have a habbit of creating very brief stub articles and then linking to them all over the place. This comes across to others as if you are creating the pages purely for the purpose of having links. I am not saying that this is in fact your motivation (or even that it is wrong)... only that this is the impression that others get. This impression is strengthended by the fact that, far too often, you never get around to actually expanding on the stubs you create (unless they are threatened with deletion). I think there would be far fewer antagonistic debates about your articles (and fewer AfDs) if you took a different approach. Instead of creating stubs and then rushing off to link them into every article that could concievably relate... try going slower. Expand on the stubs a bit, then link it to other articles. Just my take on the situation. Best. Blueboar (talk) 14:59, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
AfD nomination of House Price CrashI have nominated House Price Crash, an article you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/House Price Crash. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 14:05, 31 August 2008 (UTC) Re: Masonic RitualI thought some historical background might be appropriate: about the controversy. But... no bother. Let us stay wikipedestrian. Lunarian (talk) 10:42, 1 September 2008 (UTC) Fact tag - O'Connell on, List of FreemasonsTo respond to your edit comment, if O'Connell quitting was "due to Catholic condemnations", it was by his volition - the fraternity (by its very Constitutions which caused "condemnations" in the first place) does not expel (or quote-unquote "ask people to leave") for not having particular sets of religious beliefs. The reason would not appear in the records anyway (if it was even noted therein), so it's not a locatable fact on its own unless O'Connell mentioned it somewhere else himself. If the reproduction of the facts given in the source is accurate, it should not be fact tagged. MSJapan (talk) 20:31, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Grand Orient of AustriaD'oh... I should have thought about redirecting/merging to the CLIPSAS article ... good idea. I have been so focussed on the requirements of WP:ORG, that I did not think of alternative soulutions to the problem. Redirecting/merging is much more appropriate than a blunt delete. Are their any other tiny and unexpandable stubs on CLIPSAS (or SIMPA) oriented Grand Bodies that could be redirected/merged? If so, let's do so... rather than go through more AfDs. Blueboar (talk) 14:22, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Redirecting various Masonry articlesQuestion... I see that you created a redirect for Volume of Sacred Law to Masonic ritual and symbolism. Was this actually a merge, or was there no existing article on VSL? Blueboar (talk) 18:01, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
GOUSA - back to square oneFYI, given the comments by AniMate (who states that most of our sources at the article, including masonicinfo.com are not reliable and that we should look for others)... I have cut the entire criticisms section (no point in discussing what an unreliable source says). This should resolve our BLP debate... but it re-opens the notability debate. Both of us have stated at one point or another that the GOUSA article could be merged/redirected to the Continental Freemasonry article... can we agree that it should now that we have a completely independant third opinion that essentially says the same thing? Blueboar (talk) 22:24, 14 September 2008 (UTC) Reliable sourcesI'm concerned about your interpretation of reliable sources, and have taken this to the reliable sources noticeboard. AniMate 23:34, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
User:John CarterDIdn't you know that John hasn't edited for nearly two months? He was a heavy contributor EVERY day up until then. Then he sudden;y stopped with no explanation as to why he left. I hope he hasn't gone for good. The Bald One White cat 20:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC) I can't think why. And with no explanation whatsoever. Now if we could see that he had been involved in a fracas which prompted him to sleeve out of frustration or stress I could understand but it is very unusual of John to have just stopped. I hope nothing serious has happened to him. I know over the last months of his editing his workload particularly with project tagging was huge and difficulties with groups of editors over Carnatic music was stressing him out and I urged him to have a break on numerous occasions but he always plodded on. Very odd that he suddenly stopped given that he would edit consistenly every day even more consistenly than me. I miss his contributions and input considerably. The Bald One White cat 22:07, 19 September 2008 (UTC) Enthüllungen des Systems der Weltbürger-PolitikWhat is it, and why should it be redirected to Anti-Masonry? Blueboar (talk) 21:26, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Undue weight at Anti-Masonry?JAS... I want to get your thoughts on something before I ask for outside opinions. I am concerned about the amount of space that we are giving Catholic allegations in the Anti-Masonry article. I am not saying that we should ignore fact that the Church is an ardent critic of the fraternity... I am simply saying that giving so much space to the details of the Church's critisms is inappropriate in that particular article. It gives undue weight to the Church's criticisms as opposed to those of other critics. This is especially true considering that we point to an entire article devoted to discussing the Church's views. Blueboar (talk) 17:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
On a completely unrelated note, would you consider archiving part of your talk page. It's so long that it's difficult to navigate. AniMate 20:27, 21 September 2008 (UTC) AfD nomination of St. John's LodgeAn article that you have been involved in editing, St. John's Lodge, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St. John's Lodge. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? MSJapan (talk) 15:33, 2 October 2008 (UTC) Lodge meeting listed at RfDAn editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Lodge meeting. Since you had some involvement with Lodge meeting, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion. -- Suntag ☼ 16:28, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Confederation of the United Grand Lodges of Europe listed at RfDAn editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Confederation of the United Grand Lodges of Europe. Since you had some involvement with the Confederation of the United Grand Lodges of Europe redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). -- Suntag ☼ 17:15, 2 October 2008 (UTC) Can I get your opinionon Pershing Rifles AfD? I'm asking you because we seem to be on the opposite sides of some inclusion issues, and I respect your opinion regarding them, even if I disagree on some of them.--Vidkun (talk) 18:53, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Continental FreemasonryThought you might want to throw in your thoughts on the latest allegations of NPOV for the Continental Freemasonry article. I believe that the revert of my edits was unwarranted and based purely on personal disagreements due to the nature of the facts that were cited.Voltairesghost (talk) 13:51, 3 October 2008 (UTC) Just giving you a shout to let you know that I am done wasting my time on the Continental Freemasonry articles here. These guys are in serious denial of the truth to a degree that I can only compare to a cult-like fanatacism. The very things that they are trying to constantly acuse me of are being displayed in their blind zealotry. I am not sure why they spend so much time on articles concerning a type of Freemasonry which, in their minds and for all intents and purposes, is in opposition to their beliefs. This is like Microsoft being allowed to constantly edit Apple's wiki articles because they think apple makes themselves look too good in their article and that Microsoft should be the focus of the Apple article. It is vastly inappropriate. These guys are biased by the very nature of their affiliation and there is no way that they will ever convince me or any third party otherwise. In a few short years, the face of American Masonry is going to be very different than it is today. When the shoe is on the other foot, I wonder if they will still be so aggressive against us? Farewell and good luck wrangling the mess on those articles, they are an extremely one-sided POV.--Voltairesghost (talk) 18:30, 7 October 2008 (UTC) Not a disproportionate response...The under construction template states to use a particular essay as guidelines for when to delete. Also note that the template can only be up for a week with no edits. The template was removed by a bot, and the essay states as follows: "The page may be proposed for deletion if, following the expiration of the allotted time, the page has not had any significant edits, and no work has been done to bring the page within the necessary guidelines for inclusion. At this time, anyone may feel free to propose the page for deletion using the deletion process." MSJapan (talk) 00:43, 4 October 2008 (UTC) St. John's Lodge, Portsmouth, New HampshireI just expanded the history of the page. Want to take this to DYK, because it looks like it will definitely stay. Template talk:Did you know. I added 2k worth of content, which should be more than enough prose to have it display as a DYK. I can add more. Also, if you want, I can do the nom, and we could co nom if you would like. Its your creation, and I don't want to do anything that you don't want or take credit for anything that you don't want to give. Ottava Rima (talk) 18:30, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the information, I've taken another look at the page and amended my view in the discussion accordingly. I actually commented after you added the sources but must have been looking at an older version of the page (I sometimes leave my computer on overnight to act an alarm clock) and forgot to refresh. Good job finding the sources and improving the article. Regards, Guest9999 (talk) 18:35, 4 October 2008 (UTC) AfD nomination of Julia StentI just wanted to inform you that I have nominated Julia Stent, an article you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Julia Stent where you may want to help the discussion. Sam Blacketer (talk) 20:44, 4 October 2008 (UTC) DYK for St. John's Lodge, Portsmouth, New Hampshire
Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:57, 8 October 2008 (UTC) I would like to draw your attention to this AfD discussion I have just started. I am leaving this message here as you were involved in the previous discussion about this page which ended just over a week ago. I realise that this renomination is not within the normal acceptable time frame and I have outlined my reasoning for the exception on the discussion page. Regards, Guest9999 (talk) 19:16, 13 October 2008 (UTC) Scottish Rite of 1962I think your suggestion to merge the article into Freemasonry in Belgium has some merit. At the moment that article does not discuss any of the various appendant bodies... perhaps it should. Would you expand upon your ideas at the AfD. thanks. (and why does it not surprise me that the Scottish Rite in Belgium is just as fragmented and prone to splintering as craft Masonry! What a country! )Blueboar (talk) 22:53, 29 November 2008 (UTC) Follow-up on "merging encyclopedias"User:Charles Matthews/WikiProject DNBMerge. Charles Matthews (talk) 06:09, 4 December 2008 (UTC) Proposed deletion of Christian Order A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Christian Order, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:
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Dumb question for youUser:Gimmetrow told me to ask you this: Do you think that all articles which cite the Catholic Encyclopedia should be tagged with {{Catholic}}? Let me know on my talk page if you have time. --Eastlaw (talk) 06:22, 20 January 2009 (UTC) Proposed deletion of Aaron D. WolfA proposed deletion template has been added to the article Aaron D. Wolf, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Will Beback talk 04:30, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 19:01, 8 January 2010 (UTC) Need your input at Anticlericalism and FreemasonryMuch of the material which was in the article Catholicism and Freemasonry is now in the article Anticlericalism and Freemasonry. Blueboar tried to blank the article and redirect it but other editors steped in. Then he tried to delete almost all of the material in one edit but I objected. Now he is attempting to do the same thing piecemeal. Your input would be appreciated. Mamalujo (talk) 19:30, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Articles for deletion nomination of Swinton CircleI have nominated Swinton Circle, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swinton Circle. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Stifle (talk) 09:27, 16 March 2010 (UTC) deletion discussionYou participated in a previous discussion on the deletion of Anarchism and anarcho-capitalism. You may be interested that a new deletion review has begun at WP:Articles_for_deletion/Anarchism_and_anarcho-capitalism_(2nd_nomination). Tb (talk) 22:08, 25 March 2010 (UTC) Boxwood Public SchoolWasn't that tag removed before? And didn't you just repeat what you did earlier? ~~Keep It Clean! Respect Public Property! -Superintendent, Halo 3:ODST Chairsenses(Talk)~~ 16:49, 2 April 2010 (UTC) AfD nomination of A List (Conservative)An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for deletion. The nominated article is A List (Conservative). We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also Wikipedia:Notability and "What Wikipedia is not"). Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion(s) by adding your comments to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A List (Conservative). Please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 01:10, 8 May 2010 (UTC) The article John Rao has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons. You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Conservative MEPs Category:Conservative MEPs, which you created, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:24, 29 June 2010 (UTC) Whole bunch of run-on stubsHi, you see to be creating a lot of articles where the text consists of "X is a Roman Catholic titular see in Pisidia it is a suffragan of Y". These are run-on sentences and you are using no punctuation whatsoever. Would you please
OrthodoxWiki listed at Redirects for discussionAn editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect OrthodoxWiki. Since you had some involvement with the OrthodoxWiki redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Bridgeplayer (talk) 11:54, 29 July 2010 (UTC) Hi, I see you've converted St Eunan's Cathedral into a disambig. Per WP:FIXDABLINKS, could you help clean up the links that now point to a disambig? Thanks, --JaGatalk 11:34, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Reliable source?Why do you think that this this blog is a reliable source? --Cameron Scott (talk) 09:09, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Articles for deletion nomination of John RaoI have nominated John Rao, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Rao. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Prezbo (talk) 09:17, 8 August 2010 (UTC) Hi again. Just a reminder asking you to help clean up these links per WP:FIXDABLINKS. Thanks! --JaGatalk 11:19, 10 August 2010 (UTC) Patriarchate of Aquileia{{Talkback|OwenBlacker|ts=16:11, 18 August 2010 (UTC)}} Message added 13:44, 20 August 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. DYK nomination of Free City of Besançon
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