User talk:Ian.thomson/Archive 10
New stuff goes at the bottom, people. Also, please sign your posts in talk pages with four tildes (~~~~). I appreciate concern during recent events, it's all been humbling. Cleaning up the page again, everything is in the history. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:06, 3 February 2011 (UTC) By the standards set out in the mentioned policy this bio should not be on this site in the first place, as not all parties concerned agree on the statements made, this is a one sided story and now the opportunity to have another view on it is being quashed. I thought this site was about freedom of speech and the truth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.13.187.59 (talk) 20:12, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
That's not what I meant in my edit summary. Moon is claimed to be the Second Coming, not Jesus. This distinction is in the lede section of the article but not the title. That is why I posted in the discussion on the talk page on the focus of the article. Seems it still needs some refining. Also, the article on Billy Meier does not support any claim of being Jesus or the second coming. Elizium23 (talk) 15:49, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
You said in an edit comment>(Another ref. Due to being tired and hungry, getting a little impatient, and will get back to it later.)<
StalkingThanks for the revert! --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:12, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
OphirI cited my sources well, it was not just original research. Furthermore, if my tone was non-neutral, you could have just changed that.--Avedeus (talk) 02:26, 17 February 2011 (UTC) Furthermore, your claim of synthesis is unaccounted for, because each of those sources explicitly supports that view; have you read any of the sources before refuting them?--Avedeus (talk) 02:28, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Thats okay, I am glad we understand each other. Thanks. --Avedeus (talk) 21:37, 17 February 2011 (UTC) scribal errors of 666 =If the number is originally written literally as exakosia exinta exi, then it is difficult to have scribal errors. It is more likely written in three letters. Most scribal errors occur in the middle letter. If it was upper case it is Ξ which is much more clear than the lower case ξ. This makes me believe that the number, the very original number written by John was χξς. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.166.123.7 (talk • contribs)
This is specially dedicated to you. "καὶ ἐάν τις ἀφέλῃ ἀπὸ τῶν λόγων τοῦ βιβλίου τῆς προφητείας ταύτης, ἀφελεῖ ὁ θεὸς τὸ μέρος αὐτοῦ ἀπὸ τοῦ ξύλου τῆς ζωῆς καὶ ἐκ τῆς πόλεως τῆς ἁγίας, τῶν γεγραμμένων ἐν τῶ βιβλίῳ τούτῳ." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.166.123.7 (talk • contribs)
six wivesSo, does the citation claim he had six wives? Perhaps its better if you don't replace it as you are unable to verify it and have not assessed the source at all. Off2riorob (talk) 21:32, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
You are basically edit warring content you have no idea about, please self revert and allow the user that has access and has made the claim to add the content. Please take this as a 3RR noteOff2riorob (talk) 21:45, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
John W. BryantYou recently made comments on the talk page of John W. Bryant regarding repeated deletions of a quotation from a source. We've been working on this issue on the talk page and I've drafted a proposed addition to the article here. Because you commented on the issue previously, you are invited to comment on the proposal, if you wish to do so. Thanks. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:50, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Angels(Islamic perspective)Hi I recently tried to remove some content on the Angels page regarding the views on angels in Islam. A disproportionate amount of inforation is left in the form of a poem . The poem in outright conflict with mainstream Islamic teachings, I am not against different groups expressing their teachings on the subject, I do however want to avoid people gaining an understanding of Angels in Islam wholly different to what the majority of Muslims believe. I do not intend to censor said information, just that it is in the wrong place. It should be on the Islamic view of angels page so that a more wholistic view of Angels in Islam is presented instead, with the different views on the aforementioned page. Thanks P.S. apologies if this is not formatted correctly, I havn't done this before. Imran tayab (talk) 23:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC) WillfultsHi. I noticed you've been having a lot of trouble with this editor. Join the club. I've struggled with him for 4-5 months now. He must have ruined a dozen good articles about the SDA church. I've made a note at the NPOV noticeboard. All the best. Tonicthebrown (talk) 12:29, 26 February 2011 (UTC) Thank you for taking time to talk to me.81.103.121.144 (talk) 23:52, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
It is called "majority text"The majority (98%) of the ancient handwritten texts mention χξς. The Novum Testamentum Graece refers to printed editions. The majority text is a Bible Standard at least from 300 AC until now, as long as John Chrysostom is consistent with that text Xicsies (talk) 14:45, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
Read the following link about Max Muller, why suppress truth about injustice? it still continues. http://indianrealist.wordpress.com/2010/06/17/max-mueller-was-a-swindler-william-jones-was-a-fraud/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calador2100 (talk • contribs) 08:47, 5 March 2011 (UTC) TeilhardHave you got a source which confirms Pierre Teilhard de Chardin racial origin views? I have read that he belived in evolutionary polygenism, it seems many websites seem to be saying this but apparently the websites are not valid enough, there seems to be many websites attacking teilhards beliefs. Apparently theres some stuff he wrote on it himself in his book "The Phenomenon of Man", i don't have the exact line but apparently he belived different races evolved off different primates, and that the Adam and Eve story was not literal to him, and that he actually believed in more than one Adam. 86.10.119.131 (talk) 00:46, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Gnosticism IntroTo be honest, I think your intro should have replaced the other one. It's a shame that some articles get taken over by persons trying to make a distorted, inaccurate point, instead of trying to present an objective view of a phenomenon. Your intro is much better. It's too bad that authentic scholars seem to rarely spend time fixing errors in wikipedia articles.Jimhoward72 (talk) 20:28, 24 March 2011 (UTC) CamaëlI'm kinda new to actually adding info to Wikipedia, so Excuse me if I didn't do it the right way;) I did translate it now for starters. And I will add the source of the information I got. According to my own research about Camaël, the information I will add after leaving this message is fully correct. I hope I'm doing it the right way this time. I will make an account first tho. done. My Account is Mr_GoLd_FaCe greetings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr GoLd FaCe (talk • contribs) 13:44, 29 March 2011 (UTC) AngelsAngels I am just a 57 yr old physician who is well read and I tried to comment on the Angels site but did not know how. I am amazed that the whole angels wiki does not mention the Sumerians. The oldest recorded description of angels is Sumerian. I saw a clay Sumerian angel in a Beijing museum that was dated 4000 BC, that got me more interested in Sumerian civilization. When I found out that the Sumerian great flood story was almost identical to the Jewish story I was amazed. But then everything fell into place when I learned that Abraham was Sumerian, and took his group of people east. When one religion spins off another, it usually takes with it a lot of the old religion. I found this to be true in all of the religions I have studied. The Sumerian mythology predates the Egyptian beliefs and there are too many similarities to call it all coincidence. There is solid evidence that trade existed between Sumer and Egypt before Egypt became a major civilization. Depictions of winged humans from Sumer and Egypt often look identical. The wikipedia site on angels needs to be rewritten. It took me only ten minutes to find a better site on angels. I like wikipedia and I hope you can get someone to correct this. http://www.feedback.nildram.co.uk/richardebbs/essays/angels.htm Dr. Don Woods — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.90.216 (talk • contribs) 03:24, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
April 2011 You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively. In particular, the three-revert rule states that:
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. —slakr\ talk / 19:34, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
RE: Regarding your seal of Penemue imageHi Ian, Well the source for the seal of Penemue was obtained in a terribly long and kinda obscure journey. I did not actually find it, it's more a ask and get thing. Found it at Megadriel Forum(sorry for the redirect. crappy but necessary :-( ). I found it's quite resourceful. And the Admin sure seems to know a lot! Good luck! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcelcolt (talk • contribs) 18:24, 4 April 2011 (UTC) Don't let deletionism get you downThe link to "Nature of Satanism as History" is pertinent and inclusive to the article on Satanism because it encompasses the historical and social perspective of the subject, the essay is in-depth; being scholarly embraces an academic approach. If it was about "advertising" I would have included an author's name. There are already a gathering of links which DO mention authors and merchants, but if you would notice the intended placement of the essay near other parallel works e.g. Description, Philosophies and Justification of Satanism & Satanism of All Types Both Fictional and Actual, you might comprehend the wiki-motivation of information gathering. That essay isn't random, it is on point. If your logic towards what is advertising and what is information had merit, you might double-check all the fraternal links and further question the distinction of Satanism from Luciferianism or even denominational sects of Satanism i.e. Theistic whose external links might be more appropriate on the original articles. I get what you're saying though, "It's a blog.", but seriously Description, Philosophies and Justification of Satanism is essentially Vexen's blog, Satanism of All Types Both Fictional and Actual is misleading it's pointing to Nagasiva's collection of Satanists by rank of popularity and again essentially Yronwode's blog. The external link Theistic Satanism is essentially Venus' blog. What I mean is those are personal pages, but I am an inclusionist and I don't view Vexen, Nagasiva nor Venus as using Wikipedia for advertising they are simply pertinent to the subject of Satanism. Now aren't you delighted I didn't once mention prudence or pretend to be the victim? Oh yeah I almost forgot, go read the essay then I want YOU to add it to the article's external links. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackson (talk • contribs) 22:28, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Simone WeilFrom a letter to Father Perrin, Marseilles, "I should betray the truth if I left the point, where I have been since my birth, at the intersection of Christianity and everything that is not Christianity.." So she is as much not Christian, as Christian ? In another letter to Perrin she wrote 'rightly or wrongly you consider me worthy of being called a Christian.." something like that - so do you have the divine and academic right to be surer of what she should be called than she was herself? 92.4.96.236 (talk) 22:30, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Non-neutrality?Could you take a look at the Christianity and atheism articles? I think there may be a neutrality issue. The atheism article highlights several rationales for being atheist but there is no such text for the Christianity article. What do you think? DataSmart (talk) 04:22, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Jesus of NazarethHi Ian, I noticed that you decided to revert my edit, calling it "smartassery." Please point me to WP: smartassery, which I am assuming backs up your edit? I don't think that pointing out the obvious is unencyclopedic. You'll find many instances of it elsewhere. What say you? 92.24.111.90 (talk) 21:33, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
What about in Acts 9:5, " And he said, "Who are You, Lord?" And the Lord said, "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. It is hard for you to kick against the goads." 92.24.111.90 (talk) 21:41, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
I disagree. You've failed to justify what you have done. Going to revert your edit now. I'm not interested in an edit war, if you've got a problem still then we need a 3rd party to mediate. 92.24.111.90 (talk) 18:26, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I would like to know how do you judge that Sanatana Dharma is not called Hindu Dharma? Please link materials that say so. Your edits are present in a paragraph on Hinduism that ignores lack of understanding of Hinduism from within but points to understanding Hinduism w.r.t. Persians, Delhi Sultanate in definition section itself. To not acknowledge Sanatana Dharma is improper as there is enough evidence available, and this lack of acknowledgment of pagans, pagan authorities and pagan culture wherever is alarming. Considering the sources as self-published, please understand that culture and people have right to declare own understanding. Please check the sources in wiki:Christianity here, here, here and here on just one wiki page and find out how many sources are self-declared and tell us instead of giving excuses to delete source here that state facts. Thisthat2011 (talk) 09:19, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
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