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User talk:Gran2/Archive 3
The simpsons hit and runI have been working on a much better version of The Simpsons Hit and Run for some time now and it almost ready for upload. However someone recently added the titles and purposes of missions in the Plot section. I can't decide if it's a useless piece of trivia and wether I should include it in my newer version. Your thoughts? --Simpsons fan 66 11:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
TableAdd episode numbers, and a note/description column and it would be perfect. There's a template for that on the talk page somewhere. -- Scorpion0422 16:12, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Your Help?Since no one responded to my request here, would you like to help, or do you think it is too much work, and we shouldn't bother? Ctjf83 19:30, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
GreetingHi, I'm Spencer. I'm a big fan of the Simpsons too.Green Kirby 05:32, 9 October 2007 (UTC) season sixI'll correct any errors I see and get back to you in 24 hours or so. Tommy Stardust 02:12, 15 October 2007 (UTC) Post-Sideshow BobSo, what do you want to work on next? We could try and get Sideshow Bob to FA status (it would need more cultural influence), or we could start something new. I chose to do Bob, so it's your turn to pick. As a small side project, I will be working on List of awards won by The Simpsons and I'll model it after List of U2 awards, but the big issue is sourcing as there are several well-known awards (ie. EMAs) with few RSs. I also told Alientraveller I'd work on Deep Space Homer, but I've yet to start. -- Scorpion0422 16:44, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
QuestionGran? I ask for a favour, but only if you agree. Unlike the last person I asked, I was completely ignored. I am attempting to expand episodes, such as my most recent peice of work ("Kill Gil: Vols. 1 & 2"), by remodelling the page such as adding a "reception", or "reference" section, and removing the "trivia" section. I want to expand upon other episodes, and I come to you to see if what I'm doing is okay, and what Wikiproject:The Simpsons, wishes for. Regardless, I eagerly await for your reply. Thanks!, - Yours truly, Superior(talk) 00:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC) FL Main page proposalYou nominated a current WP:FLC. As such, you are the type of editor whose opinion I am soliciting. We now have over 400 featured lists and seem to be promoting in excess of 30 per month of late (41 in August and 42 in September). When Today's featured article (TFA) started (2004-02-22), they only had about 200 featured articles and were barely promoting 20 new ones per month. I think the quality of featured lists is at least as good as the quality of featured articles was when they started appearing on the main page. Thus, I am ready to open debate on a proposal to institute a List of the Day on the main page with nominations starting November 1 2007, voting starting December 1 2007 and main page appearances starting January 1 2008. For brevity, the proposal page does not discuss the details of eventual main page content, but since the work has already been done, you should consider this proposal assuming the eventual main page will resemble either an excerpted list format or an abbreviated text format. The proposal page does not debate whether starting with weekly list main page entries would be better than daily entries. However, I suspect persons in favor of weekly lists are really voicing opinions against lists on the main page since neither TFA nor Picture of the day started as weekly endeavors, to the best of my knowledge. Right now debate seems to be among support for the current selective democratic/consensus based proposal, a selective dictatorial approach like that used at WP:TFA or a non-selective first in line/calendar approach like that used at WP:POTD. See the List of the Day proposal and comment at WP:LOTDP and its talk page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 16:20, 16 October 2007 (UTC) I've renominated this for FA status. Any chance you could comment on the article at the above link? Much appreciated if you could comment! :) Davnel03 14:46, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
I'll get to it as soon as I can, though I'm a tiny bit busy. It'll be in there by tonight, though. ✗iℎi✗(talk) 20:10, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
kudosHey thamks for saving me a job man! Updating that page is such a hassle when Raul add new FA. Buc 15:16, 23 October 2007 (UTC) Controversial episodes of The Simpsons?This was an idea I had and it might be worth a try as we could have a really good well-sourced page, but the big problem is it could lead to a tonne of POV because how do you define controversial? Upset some fans? Blasted by critics? Caused a big stir among the production staff? Every time I try to think of episodes that were truly controversial and were acknowledged by the staff and mentioned in several reliable sources I usually only get a few - Streetcar Named Marge, City of New York vs. Homer Simpson, Blame it on Lisa, The Principal and the Pauper and maybe a couple of others. What do you think? -- Scorpion0422 17:44, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Season 9It appears that the season 9 FT drive has gained some momentum and now I have set up a season 9 page here. It will be considerably harder than season 8, but it's worth a shot. -- Scorpion0422 01:40, 24 October 2007 (UTC) userboxesHi. I suggest that you put <includeonly> and </includeonly> tags around your User:Gran2/Userboxes page. This will stop your name from appearing twice in categories that those boxes put you in. After adding them, your subpage will look empty, but the userboxes will still appear on your main userpage. Thanks for your time. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 19:42, 24 October 2007 (UTC) SmithersI decided to work on a character, and I randomly chose one out of a hat and I ended up with Smithers. I've been taking a crack at a "Role in The Simpsons" section and I was wondering if you could take a look at it? I've got several other things in the works, so this will be a slow gradual project and I'll occasionally improve the article over a period of time. -- Scorpion0422 01:47, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Cartridge FamilyYeah, I'll see what I can find. Zagalejo^^^ 04:43, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
ScreenshotsWhat do you use to take screenshots of Simpsons episodes...if you do? I just used VLC media player, and don't really like it, and windows media player doesn't work Ctjf83 21:59, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
History of The Simpsons?I just discovered this page and I was wondering if perhaps we should consider making one for The Simpsons. I would be willing to bet that we could make a long, interesting and well-sourced page. However, this issue here is the same as my issue with a "Controversial episodes of The Simpsons" page - is it necessary? The Simpsons is already a pretty good page and it isn't that long, so it's not a case of needing to split up a page. As well, I'm not sure of what kind of stuff we could add other than its creation. I think a page like that would just seem like sourced cruft and possibly giving undue weight to minor details. What do you think? -- Scorpion0422 04:06, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
HolidayYeah, I had a great time in Israel. In case you have to know, I consider the Garden Tomb to be it. You seen Ratatouille yet? Alientraveller 15:53, 27 October 2007 (UTC) Smithers voiceDo you have any idea who (if anyone) Harry Shearer based Smithers voice on? I looked through every Harry Shearer interview linked at snpp (most don't work anymore) and Smithers isn't even mentioned. -- Scorpion0422 19:06, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I've also been cleaniong up the Kwik-E-Mart page. It still needs a creation section, but it's coming along nicely. What do you think? -- Scorpion0422 15:53, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Mr. PlowThanks for all your work on the article! You guys did the whole thing while I was asleep! it was 1 am in Aust! --Simpsons fan 66 03:26, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Regarding Naegle, the whole commentary people said it was her first appearance, and Scully elaborated a little on it. But, I see that she also appeared in that episode, which is weird. If you want to remove it, though, you can, but it was said.✗iℎi✗(talk) 21:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC) X-Men cast listThoughts on structuring the page? User:Alientraveller/X-Men cast. Alientraveller 15:07, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
HelpHey, do you have I Can't Believe It's a Bigger and Better Updated Unofficial Simpsons Guide? If so, can you tell me what they say about "Bart Carny" I need to add stuff to the reception section of that article. Thanks, Ctjf83 00:31, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for your helpful comments at Blind Ambition (Family Guy), I think we all got a little annoyed at each other, nothing we can't put behind us ). Anyway, again — I'd like to thank you for your helpful comments, I will be taking up the necessary work on this article, and I hope to get it up to good article status sometime (I think it will be the first Family Guy article to reach GA, however hopefully not the last...). I look forward to speaking and working with you. Cheers, and thanks again, Qst 14:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I've been working on cleaning up the main Treehouse of Horror episode page and I had wanted to include a list of episodes, shorts, writers and directors, but in order to do it properly, it would take up a lot of room. So, I created a page for it, and if I can find sources for the later episodes, I intend to try to get the page to FL status. It currently has some sources, and several blanks in the writer column for where I couldn't find specific writers. What do you think of the page right now? And what do you think of the name? I wasn't sure if adding "The Simpsons" was necessary, but I did it because otherwise it looks like "Treehouse of Horror" is its own series. -- Scorpion0422 16:20, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
I've made some huge changes to The Simpsons Halloween episodes (and proposed a page move, so check out the talk page) so could you take a look? It's still a work in progress and there are several sections I'm yet to expand, but the production and Traditions sections are about 90% complete. As well, I've gotten into several debates with people who seem to think that every single reference to Smithers being gay should be included on his page, specifically the one where he is (supposedly) in the gay pride parade in the "in the closet" float. I think that the Role section focuses too much on his sexuality as it is and already establishes that he is possibly gay, so there really is no reason to dive into specific jokes. After all, it is supposed to just be a section about his role in the show. Either way, could you take a look at the debate here? Thanks, Scorpion0422 20:50, 8 November 2007 (UTC) LOTD proposalYou either voted on the original list of the day proposal or the revised version. A more modest experimental proposal is now at issue at WP:LOTDP. Feel free to voice your opinion.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 17:39, 7 November 2007 (UTC) Jack SparrowThat image would need some cropping, hopefully you'll oblige? I'm unsure myself of how soon it should be on the main page. Thanks anyway for giving your support to the article. Alientraveller 17:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
THOH IIII have been working on THOH III and battling a steady stream of IP address edits. I think it is almost ready for nomination, but I would like your opinion. I would also like to remove the bullet points from the cultural references but I think it makes it look like a large clump of information. What should I do? --Simpsons fan 66 22:40, 7 November 2007 (UTC) TSM DVDI'm sure you'll be getting it for Christmas or that you've probably pre-ordered it, but don't you think it's lame it's only got six deleted scenes? There's got a double-dip soon. In co-operating on this article, are you willing to get the short end or will you wait for every avaliable source? I'm unsure now if I'll wait or nab it. Alientraveller 21:09, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
I've found and implemented the CS! interview with Zimmer. The music section feels a bit odd. Should we throw out the UK chart stuff? Alientraveller 22:07, 15 November 2007 (UTC) So, do you have the DVD? When do you plan to implement it and the FAC? Over Christmas I presume? Thanks for the X-Men FL support by the way. Alientraveller (talk) 19:51, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
There's no real specific rules, every award is notable I guess, just as every newspaper/magazine critic is ok. I'd like very minor noms though to the awards list. You'll find it'll all work out once every award is won or lost. Alientraveller (talk) 16:12, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
I knew it! Hank Scorpio was going to be the villain! Alientraveller (talk) 15:09, 16 December 2007 (UTC) Hey. I'm a bit busy, so I can't, but can you fixed up Realty Bites? You just have to fix the references and add ones that Ctjf83 didn't, because I'm afraid it won't pass the GA otherwise. It's only the book reference thats missing and the Simpsons site you can use for the two plot references. Also, a fixing of the BBC reference. xihix(talk) 00:16, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Simpsons awardsI didn't realize that keeping the List of awards won by The Simpsons would be such a difficult task. We're entering awards season, but I can't seem to find much in the way of news sites. I've tried Simpsons Channel, IMDB (the awards page is hideously out of date) and even NoHomers (I didn't realize you were a member there), but none of them have had much... The only reason I discovered the Aussie kids choice awards and People's Choice noms is because I routinely check what links to The Simpsons (in hopes of weeding out useless pages) and I saw those award pages linked there. Do you have any ideas for what might be a good news site that would keep this kind of stuff up to date? I occasionally check EW, but they tend to only list the major awards. -- Scorpion0422 02:56, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Re: CompleteThey may just not have listed them (it wasn't complete -- eg Dean and Seamus aren't on that press release)… but I guess that signifies that they're not anybody famous. That was the update of my life. Coming online to see "casting complete for HBP" and knowing that I could go update the List of cast members made my day -- I've been dying to do that forever! Anyway, it would be great to revise the cast list on the HBP film page. Thanks. Fbv65edel — t — c // 15:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Featured List of the Day ExperimentThere have been a series of proposals to initiate a Featured List of the Day on the main page. Numerous proposals have been put forth. After the third one failed, I audited all WP:FL's in order to begin an experiment in my own user space that will hopefully get it going. Today, it commences at WP:LOTD. Afterwards I created my experimental page, a new proposal was set forth to do a featured list that is strikingly similar to my own which is to do a user page experimental featured list, but no format has been confirmed and mechanism set in place. I continue to be willing to do the experiment myself and with this posting it commences. Please submit any list that you would like to have considered for list of the day in the month of January 2008 by the end of this month to WP:LOTD and its subpages. You may submit multiple lists for consideration.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 17:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC) Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (film) bolded cast listsI understand, and agree with, the rationale behind bolding the actor and character names in a cast list, when the entry for said actor/character spans multiple lines; it’s an aid to clarity. However (and leaving aside for now the notion that some would argue that only partially-bolding in this manner implies a certain prominence for those actors over the others), I think we’re failing to take into consideration users who may have, for example, different resolutions, different browser window sizes (not everyone goes fullscreen; many people prefer to tile multiple windows), permanent browser sidebars and different browser text sizes - all of which would vary which entries spanned multiple lines. With Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (film), the cast list appears different than 'as intended' if any of the above variables are tinkered with. I don't know the Wikipedia policy name, or if it even exists, but I assume there's one somewhere about making sure, where they can be, that the layouts of pages are tailored towards as wide a readership as possible. With that in mind, I would make the suggestion that bolding should be used on any entry within the cast list which contains prose (whether it spans multiple lines or not), while leaving non-prose entries (where it's "Actor as Character" only) in the same section unbolded. Your thoughts would be appreciated on this. Best regards, Liquidfinale (Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ) 22:11, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
CastNope, and that doesn't seem like the type of thing that would get through the lawyers. I always thought that Castellaneta was their first choice... -- Scorpion0422 20:36, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
I can't think of anything off of the top of my head, but it might not hurt to check Planet Simpson. -- Scorpion0422 17:39, 20 November 2007 (UTC) I really don't like that for the most part empty notes column. Can we do something about that? As well, it wouldn't hurt to throw every free image of the cast we have on the page. There are images of Yeardley, Nancy, Kelsey, Jan Hooks, Jon Lovitz and Marcia Wallace. -- Scorpion0422 16:48, 21 November 2007 (UTC) That's a good idea. I'd say go for it after you fix that, and I'll take another look in a couple of hours. -- Scorpion0422 16:55, 21 November 2007 (UTC) Do you think we'd be able to user this image for anyting? Somebody suggested uploading it for use if The Simpsons makes the main page. -- Scorpion0422 15:15, 23 November 2007 (UTC) I think that is her too. Good luck trying to get use of it. -- Scorpion0422 16:46, 24 November 2007 (UTC) Harry Potter cite
Thanks for your message. I do not regard the corrections that have not being carried out as material and so I am pleased to announce that the article has achieved GA Status. Congratulations, Tovojolo (talk) 20:16, 22 November 2007 (UTC) Given authors name in image captionsWe are not interested in anything that could allow credit being given in captions to be considered standard practice.Geni 07:17, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
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--WjBscribe 09:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC) Triple crown Your Majesty, enjoy your triple crown with a donut. I particularly enjoyed your choice for a featured article. DurovaCharge! 20:34, 27 November 2007 (UTC)  Spiffier triple crown, new awards available Hi, I've been sprucing up the triple crown awards. Here's the new version of the standard triple crown you've already earned. Feel free to replace your old one with this if you like the new version better. I've also introduced two new triple crown awards for editors who've done a lot of triple crown work: the Napoleonic and Alexander the Great edition awards. If you're active in a WikiProject, check out the new offer for custom WikiProject triple crowns. I'll make those upon request if five or more editors qualify. See User:Durova/Triple crown winner's circle for more information. Thanks for your hard work, and cheers! DurovaCharge! 22:09, 28 November 2007 (UTC) Annie AwardsThe Annie noms are in. [2] The movie was nominated for four. I'm a tad surprised that they didn't get any noms in animation categories, but I guess those are dominated by computer animated movies. Also disappointed that Dan Castellaneta wasn't nominated in voice acting, he did a really good job. -- Scorpion0422 14:59, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
I found this online. I have no idea how reliable that source is, but it looks kind of like a joke article to me. What do you think? -- Scorpion0422 18:17, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
EmmysI don't get it, you want me to find sources that are not the official Emmys database or Infoplease? Infoplease should be fine because it is a division of Pearson Education. Cirt 16:22, 4 December 2007 (UTC).
Simpsons movie.For the simpsons movie, do you think there should be a short paragraph about the soundtrack with a link to the main article? I think it's a standard feature in movies that have a significant soundtrack. Here is an example from Medal of Honor: Airborne.
Just an idea. By the way, the movie just came out on dvd down here. All the best luck getting the article to FA! --Simpsons fan 66 21:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
How's the DVD? It won't be released here until next week. I noticed that there are only citations for the producers commentary, and not the directors one. Did you simply combine the two, or have you not listened to it yet? -- Scorpion0422 00:42, 12 December 2007 (UTC) It is interesting. I hope that if they win, they make some kind of joke about it, because the show always calls the Globes worthless. -- Scorpion0422 15:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Selected picture?If we were to have a Selected picture section at Portal:The Simpsons, which minimum (10) pictures would you go with, that are not already used somewhere else in the portal? Cirt (talk) 19:36, 6 December 2007 (UTC).
Man this page you've got User:Gran2/Free-use The Simpsons images is really cool. We could certainly make a case for a selected picture section with all the guest stars and recurring guest stars - all we'd have to do to make it relevant would be to have a short sentence or two noting their significance to the show and/or what episode they guested in. Same goes for cast/production staff, a simple couple sentences or less would tie this in well to The Simpsons theme of the portal. I'll add this same note to the portal talk page. Cirt (talk) 21:47, 7 December 2007 (UTC).
User:Gran2/Free-use The Simpsons imagesIf you know of any other sources for free-use pictures, we could use some more "General" type pictures, as you see there are only a few at User:Gran2/Free-use The Simpsons images, and they have all been used at Portal:The Simpsons. Cirt (talk) 17:19, 14 December 2007 (UTC).
I've been adding facts to that, and I was wondering if you'd be interested in adding about ten or so? I've added over a dozen and I thought it would be nice to get someone else's opinions in there. I've been trying to add a variety, which isn't easy as most of our best articles are about the same things (episodes, characters) and many others have no sources at all that you can use for facts (ie. None of the video game articles have sourced facts and few of the writers/directors have good stuff) but there are a lot of other characters and episodes and some of the voice actors that you could get stuff from. -- Scorpion0422 21:11, 14 December 2007 (UTC) I just saw that this has been scheduled. Congratulations! Cirt (talk) 13:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC). If you don't call trivia trivia it's still triviaPlease read information on the template before removing it: "A number of articles contain lists of isolated facts, which are often grouped into their own section labeled "Trivia", "Notes" (not to be confused with "Notes" sections which store footnotes), "Facts", "Miscellanea", "Other information", etc." The name "cultural references" shouldn't mislead you so easily. Notice that's it's a list of isolated facts, therefore, it's a trivia section Please edit articles based on wikipedia guidelines and not personal feelings. Wikipedia guidelines discourage trivia sections. Notice that this is not impending doom for the section; it's not going to be removed in x number of days, it merely informs people that this is a poor section and that if these facts are important enough for inclusion in a legitimate encyclopedia then they can be merged into the main body of the text somehow, and not listed in isolation. TheBilly (talk) 16:04, 17 December 2007 (UTC) Top 100 viewed Wiki pagesCheck it out -- See number 96, pretty cool. Cirt (talk) 17:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC). Phil HartmanI dunno, not really my thang, and I got a lot of goals I want to work on on my plate at the moment. But on a related note, could you take a look at the talk page of Realty Bites and see if you know of more sources for citations for the info about Phil Hartman re: the episode that the GA Reviewer is asking for? Cirt (talk) 18:57, 17 December 2007 (UTC).
Man Of A Thousand Voices Here's EW's obituary. Alientraveller (talk) 19:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Simpsons WikiProject Triple Crown Thank you for all your hard work, and may you wear the crowns (and donut) well. DurovaCharge! 00:13, 19 December 2007 (UTC) ReplyThere are a few other similar pages that are FLs, have you look at them? And, there is a bit of dispute over The Simpsons because a couple of users (who I think may be socks) seem to think the page needs an analysis section from one author who hasn't ever written a book specifically about them. -- 14:38, 19 December 2007 (UTC) EmmysYou should use in-line citations to denote which reference was used where for what info. Cirt (talk) 17:54, 19 December 2007 (UTC).
MOSi'm not reading all of that, what does it say about FOX and such...the FOX page says they prefer all capitals...unsourced though Ctjf83 talk 08:18, 21 December 2007 (UTC) Merry Christmas Alientraveller (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Don't overdo it on the fudge! Spread the Holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:Flaminglawyer/MerryChristmas!}} to their talk page with a friendly message. I thought I'd run this one by you first, before I made the changes. I was gonna change all the "homosexuals"/"homosexuality" to "LGBT". My community is using LGBT more, as it includes bisexuals and transgender individuals. While the show hasn't focused at all on bi or trans characters, I think it would be better just to use LGBT instead of the two homo words. As you probably already know, I changed all references to John and "Bart" from homosexual to gay, as the word homosexual is a bit dated. Let me know what you think Ctjf83 talk 20:51, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for incorporating tables for the list of Emmy Drama series winners. It makes the list neat and organized. Can you please do the same for the articles Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Comedy Series and the Emmy Awards for acting? Jairus Garin (talk) 08:28, 24 December 2007 (UTC) Merry Christmas!Just like to say thanks for all your help throughout the year, and have a Merry Christmas and a happy new year! --Simpsons fan 66 23:27, 24 December 2007 (UTC) If you want to see how the table format is incorporated for the Emmy Acting Awards lists, see the Lead Actor Emmy article. They are divided into three columns: actor, TV role, TV program. Seasons Greetings! Jairus Garin (talk) 09:01, 26 December 2007 (UTC) How is your GAC for that coming along? Also, you never answered me for my Homer's Phobia question Ctjf83 talk 19:00, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
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