User talk:Giorgi Mechurchle

April 2021

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Safavid Georgia. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. First of all, start using edit summaries. Secondly, you were reverted once, thus, per WP:BRD, you need to open a talk page section wherein you can raise your concerns. You can't just change information in a GA article like that. This article is about the Safavid province, hence the usage of the Muslimized names of the Georgian rulers. - LouisAragon (talk) 12:54, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

1.This article is about Kingdoms of Kartli and Kakheti under Safavid State. These Kingdoms were vassals (always mutinious BTW) of the turkic Safavid Dynasty, not direct regions.

2.In this article the names of the Georgian Kings are muslimised, however some of them never converted to Islam (for example Teimuraz I of Kakheti) and even they who did convert bore georgian and muslim names together, and issued many official documents where they had Georgian names (Rostom not Rostam; Vakhtang VI together with Hosaynqoli Khan etc.)

3.Sometimes in this article the names of the Georgian kings are not even muslimised but persianised (for example Lohrasb). This is totally unacceptable. Safavid dynasty was turkic not persian (as you know till XX c. Persia was ruled by turks), that state was founded by Qizilbashs who also were turks.Giorgi Mechurchle (talk) 13:19, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent editing history at Safavid Georgia shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 22:08, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• This edit is a violation of WP:3RR. Would you like to undo it yourself to avoid being blocked? Would you like me to undo it for you as a courtesy? —C.Fred (talk) 22:58, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All my editions are correct and logical, with plenty of sources, which I have provided. Those 3 users try to Persianise and Islamise the names of Christian and Georgian kings (one of them is the saint of Georgian Orthodox Church). it is an anti-historic absurd. Please, first of all just read my editions, than you will understand that I try to give the article more academic form.Giorgi Mechurchle (talk) 23:17, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Whether your edits are correct, logical, or sourced is not the issue. The issue is that you cannot edit war to try to make your preferred version of the page stick. You must discuss your edits at the article's talk page; you may not change it until there is consensus for the change. —C.Fred (talk) 00:10, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• I repeat here the message I just left you on my user talk page:

I see where other editors have raised concerns about original research on your part in adding the "Christian/Georgian" names to the article. Based on that, the burden is clearly on you to show that names other than what are currently in the article are the common names by which the kings are referred.

I also have concerns that you may not be approaching this topic from a neutral point of view. On that grounds, I suggest that you voluntarily stop reverting the Safavid Georgia article. Discuss your desired changes at Talk:Safavid Georgia; after consensus is reached, let another editor make the changes (or contact me when clear consensus is reached). If you continue to unilaterally change the article in a disruptive fashion, then my next step will be to consult with other administrators about whether your editing on Wikipedia should be restricted with a topic ban to prevent all edits by you related to kings of Georgia, broadly construed. —C.Fred (talk) 15:48, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Continued warring at Safavid Georgia

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.

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Continuation of the war first reported at the edit warring noticeboard on 24 April. On the talk page, I see no evidence that anyone else supports your changes. EdJohnston (talk) 13:26, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Kingdom of Kartli, you may be blocked from editing. --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:17, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am not engaged in an article content dispute, I made some important clarifications — all of them are sourced.--Giorgi Mechurchle (talk) 22:00, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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May 2022

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

• If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, please discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively, you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant noticeboards.
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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. - LouisAragon (talk) 20:18, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Please do not attack other editors, as you did at User talk:LouisAragon. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:28, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I do not attack anyone, but this editor - "Louis Aragon" - tries to falsify Georgian History. He slanders our saint Kings, their biography, even names... --Giorgi Mechurchle (talk) 23:12, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. - LouisAragon (talk) 23:29, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. --HistoryofIran (talk) 00:36, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

May 2022

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 2 weeks for persistently making disruptive edits. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Acroterion (talk) 02:13, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I debated making this an indefinite block, since you appear to be unwilling to discuss issues without making personal attacks on anyone who disagrees with you. Please reconsider your approach to interactions with other editors. Acroterion (talk) 02:15, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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