User talk:Ghaly/Archive 1
Welcome!Hello Ghaly, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! --Meno25 01:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC) ThanksMany thanks for all the wikipedia administrators support and interest in the articles I have written--Ghaly 01:23, 16 January 2007 (UTC) Hello and thank youDear Ghaly; Hello (in Coptic we say Nofri) and thank you for your great efforts in spreading the Coptic culture on the pages of Wikipedia. We need to work together to make sure things are correct and presentable. A couple of issues we need to solve include: - When should we use "Coptic" and when should we use "Egyptian"? For example, should we categorize the saints as "Coptic" saints or "Egyptian" saints? Personally I prefer "Egyptian" because it is more accurate (for example, all the saints and the martyrs who predate the Arab invasion of Egypt never referred to our nation as "Coptic" because the word "Coptic" is an Arab invention) - In cases such as Fr. Manassa Youhanna, should he be categorized as a theologian or a historian? He wrote in both fields, and I was always under the impression that he was more of a theologian than a historian. Please correct me on this point. Thanks once again, and I am looking forward to more cooperation with you for the sake of the Coptic (or as I would like to say: Egyptian Christian) nation. Your brother; --Lanternix 19:10, 24 January 2007 (UTC) Coptic PopesHello; I suggest removing the categorization Category:Coptic Orthodox Church from all Coptic Popes. In my opinion, the categorization as Category:Patriarchs of Alexandria is enough (it falls under Category:Coptic Orthodox Church anyway, so the final result is that the Coptic Popes will be also under Category:Coptic Orthodox Church. I think this makes things a little more organized. What do you think? Thanks. --Lanternix 22:57, 6 February 2007 (UTC) Naguib Al RehaniHi,Ghali. Considering this article, you can't just change the name of the article in this way. You have to use the move button so as not to destroy the history of the article. Here what I will do:
When all this is done, the article will be named as Naguib Al Rihani and the history will be OK. Thank you. --Meno25 14:46, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
The article Copt you nominated as a good article has failed , see Talk:Copt for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a review. Chrisfow 17:04, 17 February 2007 (UTC) StyleHi there Ghaly. I appreciate your efforts in creating articles about important Egyptians, but there's an issue here. Try to follow the guidelines set in WP:MoS, or at least the basic standards of writing, when you start new articles. Articles should be properly formatted, wikified, and written. Also, an important thing to do is to provide at least one or two sources for every article you start or they might be deleted. Happy editing. :) - Anas Talk? 13:29, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
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DYK suggestionHi Ghaly, I noticed the good work on the Nagui Asaad article. Why don't you give it a shot and nominate it in Template talk:Did you know? There are many hooks in the article, like what is mentioned in the achievements section. Just make sure the article is long enough and recently expanded. Have a good day. - Anas Talk? 18:06, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Regarding edits made to Nagui AsaadThank you for contributing to Wikipedia, Ghaly! However, your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove spam from Wikipedia. If you were trying to insert a good link, please accept my creator's apologies, but note that the link you added, matching rule \bangelfire\.com\/, is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. Please read Wikipedia's external links policy for more information. If the link was to an image, please read Wikipedia's image tutorial on how to use a more appropriate method to insert the image into an article. If your link was intended to promote a site you own, are affiliated with, or will make money from inclusion in Wikipedia, please note that inserting spam into Wikipedia is against policy. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! Shadowbot 22:29, 6 March 2007 (UTC) License tagging for Image:Salah Taher.JPGThanks for uploading Image:Salah Taher.JPG. Wikipedia gets thousands of images uploaded every day, and in order to verify that the images can be legally used on Wikipedia, the source and copyright status must be indicated. Images need to have an image tag applied to the image description page indicating the copyright status of the image. This uniform and easy-to-understand method of indicating the license status allows potential re-users of the images to know what they are allowed to do with the images. For more information on using images, see the following pages: This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. If you need help on selecting a tag to use, or in adding the tag to the image description, feel free to post a message at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 10:07, 7 March 2007 (UTC) I know all that. Besides, except for the infobox, I've probably done all the major noticeable work (see diff). Cheers. - Anas Talk? 15:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC) Help on the icon article pretty please. LoveMonkey 03:35, 27 March 2007 (UTC) MMCThanks for keeping Modernising Medical Careers up-to-date and NPOV. I don't edit that page out of WP:COI considerations. Are you a doctor? JFW | T@lk 15:02, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Don't worry with regards to WP:COI. That would mainly have been a problem if your edits were unbalanced (which they are not). Will you be helping out on the dentistry-related pages? JFW | T@lk 17:28, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Dear Ghaly, I understand you weren't able to read the Coptic letters on the page Copts, which caused you to remove them. You need to download Coptic Unicode fonts on your computer in order to be able to view them. Here is the link to the download page. The New Athena font is particularly important in this case. Thanks! --Lanternix 16:12, 8 May 2007 (UTC) list of Egyptian athletesHi. That's a great list you did on Egyptian athletes. Do you think you can write some articles or stubs for the players? It's got so many red links right now. Thanks man, I'll talk to you later. Egyegy 15:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC) Requesting assistance on Athanasius of AlexandriaThere seems to be some disagreement in various sources regarding when Arius first encountered difficulties with the church of Alexandria. I've seen one source which says they started under Peter of Alexandria; there are other sources from I think generally very creditable sources which indicate they started under Alexander of Alexandria. I think it might be valuable if you, a member of the Coptic Church, could find out what if anything the History of the Patriarchs of Alexandria says about this directly. It is my hope, although I know perhaps a vain one, that you might know of some way to access that volume to find such information out. Please let us know at Talk:Athanasius of Alexandria#POV regarding whatever you find out. Thank you. John Carter 16:00, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Cut-and-paste movesHi Ghaly. The next time you need to rename an article, please be sure to use the page move function rather than cutting-and-pasting content from one article to another. If the target title in not available (usually because it has more than just a redirect in its history), you can request an administrator's help at Wikipedia:Requested moves. For legal and organizational reasons, we are required to keep track of each editor's contributions, and when you paste-in content that other people wrote without giving them attribution, it gives the appearance that you created that content yourself. If you have any questions, please let me know. Also if know of any other cut-and-paste moves, either your own or someone else's, let me know and I will try to fix it. I didn't look very hard, but the only one of yours that I saw was Coptic Orthodox Church, which is now repaired. Thanks for all your hard work on the project. Best regards ×Meegs 19:36, 25 August 2007 (UTC) Greetings Fellow Copt!!!Hello, Ghaly. I have noticed that you have made several edits on Coptic-related articles. Kudos to you : )!!! I have looked into your work — a fine job indeed. I'm looking forward to working on any articles with you, as I'm a big fan of Coptic history — being an Orthodox Copt myself. Once again, nice job. I'd like you to send me a message if you want any help with verifying article details. Regards, Many thanks for your message and comments , please feel free to add or change anything you would like , I understand that this is a collaborative effort on wikipedia and I will be very grateful for any help --Ghaly 17:25, 30 August 2007 (UTC) Edits to Pope (disambiguation)Some interesting material was recently added by Ghaly concerning the history and acceptance of the title as applied to a particular office of the Orthodox; however as can be seen in, eg, Greek Orthodox Church of Alexandria, delving into the old and conflicting claims regarding the succession to the Episcopate of Alexandria seems to serve more to ambiguate than to disambiguate. This material is perhaps better at Patriarch of Alexandria? Please comment, wiser heads. User:scbomber 09:13, 30 August 2007 (UTC) Many thanks for your message regarding the above , I believe the material I added was relevant to Pope (disambiguation) as it explains the origin of the title and I think it can be added to Patriarch of Alexandria as well as it is relevant to that page too I am aware that the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria and Greek Orthodox Church of Alexandria both claim the title , but this is not relevant to the informations mentioned as both churches claim it based on same sources --Ghaly 17:22, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Request for template commentHello, Ghaly. I just wanted to know what your opinion is on this template. It would be nice to have any input on it. Thanks, Copyrighted materialHello Ghaly! Thank you for all your contributions to Coptic-related articles; your efforts are very much appreciated. I noticed that much of the material added recently is directly copied from the sites to which they are attributed. Almost all material on the web is copyrighted, and as such we cannot use it on Wikipedia unless it has been explicitly released into the public domain. Ths is true of Eternal Egypt, Tour Egypt, the Catholic Encyclopedia, etc., even if you reference the sites. For example, see how this edit fails the Google test: [1]. Unfortunately, we are going to have to remove these copyright vios, but we can still replace them with prose that's not copied directly. To avoid this in the future, simply summarize *in your own words* the information that you found in a given source and provide the citation. Please let me know if you have questions. All the best, — Zerida 01:15, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
St. Mary Church ("Rmans ally")Hi again. Anyway, on the Seat of the Coptic Orthodox Pope of Alexandria, it links you to "Saint Mary Church (Rmans ally)". 1. What Church is this? I think you mean "Romans ally." 2. Also, I believe you are thinking of the Coptic Orthodox of Saint Mary Church (Babylon Al-Darag). Is this true? 3. Lastly, I have noticed that you have worked on minor changes to my little development of the Church of the Holy Virgin in Babylon Al-Darag. Feel free to work some more on it, as it does need a lot of work. (BTW, you should remember that it's on User:Troy 07/Sandbox.) PS: Pope Shenouda III will raise a Deacon to the Priestly rank in Cedar Grove, New Jersey at 7:00 AM EST time (Sept. 1). Of course Wales is quite far from there, but it's nice to know! (I'm in western Canada, so I'm not nearby either). You can learn more at http://www.saintmark.com.
Yours truly, Hi sorry for that , you are correct it is Saint Mary Church (Romans ally) and if you look at ar:مقر بابا الإسكندرية you will find it written كنيسة السيدة العذراء حارة الروم - الغورية - قسم الدرب الأحمر I will try to sort it out at some stage Thanks a lot --Ghaly 10:43, 1 September 2007 (UTC) Church of the Holy Virgin in Babylon Al-DaragI require help for developing the article for this Church (located in Coptic Cairo). You can do so by editing my sandbox at User:Troy 07/Sandbox (the page which currently holds my little project). I have contacted all of the other Coptic Wikipedians I know of for help. Please remember that copyright infringement will have to be reduced, as I have got the information from an article. I have typed a hidden message mentioning that and other things worth mentioning. This is a list of all the Coptic Wikipedians that I know of (including myself):
As the page is still not on the mainspace I started a sub at Saint Mary Church (Babylon Al-Darag) ; feel free to edit , change , or redirect --Ghaly 18:58, 2 September 2007 (UTC) DYK--Carabinieri 22:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC) Many thanks for letting me know this , May I suggest information from Holy family in Egypt for DYK section? --Ghaly 18:21, 5 September 2007 (UTC) Copts ARE NOT Arab Christians!!!I need your input. It seems that the fact that I (and Lanternix) can't convince some people who are possibly more lacking on the details of how Copts view their ethnicity. I have said it time and time again: Copts are not to be labelled as Arabs!!! ...I know that this all seems silly, but your input will be greatly appreciated (as you could help in finding sources, pointing things out; etc...). You can post edits on this issue at the following link: Talk:Arab_Christians#UNACCEPTABLE_OMISSION_OF_COPTS. Thank-you, MATTA EL-MESKEENThis article (Matta El Meskeen) wrongfully states that he was not at any point excommunicated by His Holiness Pope Cyril VI. HOW CAN YOU DENY WHAT HH Pope Shenouda III wrote??? It says it all on P. 6 of this link (English El-Keraza). He (Papa Shenouda) has severely warned anyone of what Matta el-Meskeen taught — Pope Shenouda even wrote 6 BOOKS countering Matta el-Meskeen's opinion on the church beliefs. I'm not going against you, but you CANNOT DENY what HH Pope Shenouda wrote. I believe that this is one of the most important sources you'll when it comes to the opinion of Pope Shenouda on Matta's teachings. I am contacting others on the issue. Thanks,
This means that I am not the one who added the information regarding excommunication that you are mentioning. Hope this will clarify matters. --Ghaly 17:28, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi again. I've got the quotes. They are from this historic article. I hope this can shed some light onto the issue.
This looks to be FAR too politically influenced, but that is what happens when politicians mess with Church affairs. ...But the worst part is, he (Matta) said: "For the first years I prayed for him, but I see the church is going from bad to worse because of his behavior." To that, I have the following response: 1. Pope Shenouda's "behaviour" was nothing of the sort. If anyone dares to insult his "behaviour," then they're the ones who have bad "behavior." 2. EVEN IF Pope Shenouda's "behaviour" was not positive (which is entirely untrue), does that mean that you should stop praying for him??? Never, for that is the largest reason why you would pray for anyone. So, I have proper evidence that this article needs some real help. It would be good if you can take part in that. Thanks,
Articles for deletionPlease see this page. As you have done a lot of editing on this article, I think you should also have a say to let others know about what you think. ~ Troy 23:03, 12 September 2007 (UTC) BooksSorry, did I say 6 books? I MEANT 8!!! Anyway, HH the Pope did write 8 books as a counterpoint to Fr. Matta's presumably incorrect teachings. By the way, I will in fact be a bit busier for the next little while, so if you could help out with the article Matta El Meskeen, then that would be great... If you can't, then let me know. Thanks, ~ Troy 00:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC) Age Related Hearing ImpairmentA {{prod}} template has been added to the article Age Related Hearing Impairment, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the Pentapolis (North Africa)The article "Pentapolis" is a verbatim copy of most sections of the "Cyrenaica" article, and provides no new or specific information on the Pentapolis itself. As such, it is redundant. If no objection is noted or significant material added to the Pentapolis page, I'll turn it into a redirect page. Cplakidas 23:18, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Including the information you mentioned is important to explain relationship between Pentapolis (North Africa) and Cyrenaic. The article Pentapolis (North Africa) is being developed to include information about the history of the Eparchy as part of both the Coptic Orthodox Church and the Greek Orthodox Church.
DYK refresh clockMay I ask why you updated the DYK refresh clock?--Carabinieri 00:47, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi again! I'm back. So, after I was away, I started working on Category:Deans of the Catechetical School of Alexandria. Can you please help by giving all of them you know? You can start by putting them in that category. After that, we can put in succession boxes in the articles of those who were/are in office. By the way, I prefer to use the title "Dean of the Catechetical School of Alexandria" over "manager of the Catechetical School of Alexandria". Nice work, though! Awaiting your response, Cut-and-past moves (again)Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that recently you carried out a copy and paste page move from Institute of Coptic studies to Institute of Coptic Studies. Please do not move articles by copying and pasting them because it splits the article's history, which is needed for attribution and is helpful in many other ways. In most cases, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. If there is an article that you cannot move yourself by this process, follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Also, if there are any other articles that you copied and pasted, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. I see this is not the first time you have been asked to avoid this type of move; please be more careful in the future. Russ (talk) 15:45, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
As for the Coptic Orthodox Church page that was corrected by me in a few minutes after it happened and I did that before your first message . many thanks .--Ghaly (talk) 17:30, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
My SandboxIf you could help with working on my sandbox now, that would be great. Currently, I'm working on the Coptic Churches in Africa (excluding Egypt/Coptic architecture in Egypt, Ethiopia/Ethiopian Orhtodox, and Eritrea/Eritrean Orthodox). The links to the directory are:
Thanks for everything, In this edit you say that she "went to the London Gallery to obtain further materials and documents". Do you know which Gallery the sentence refers to? Is it the National Gallery, London? --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC) In this reference zoominfo it only says Between 1952 and 1954 she pursued her research at Dropsie College, Philadelphia, and in 1955, she went to the London Gallery to obtain further materials and documents. As you said it might be National Gallery, London Many thanks --Ghaly (talk) 23:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
SakakiniDear Ghaly, you did a great job making an article about Azbakeya. A senior professor here was born in Sakakini, but we cannot find an article about this neighborhood of the Daher area of Cairo. Can you make one? (Also, do we need a Daher article?) Badagnani (talk) 04:22, 25 February 2008 (UTC) Also, he says that Rod El Farag is missing. Badagnani (talk) 04:28, 25 February 2008 (UTC) One more thing: "Haram" is included in the template, but redirects to "Cairo." Is this an actual place? Badagnani (talk) 04:28, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
You are great. The professor is Halim El-Dabh and he has a number of Coptic relatives in England. Badagnani (talk) 08:36, 25 February 2008 (UTC) He was born on the "Street of the Beautiful," Sharia El Gameel. He described it as being in the "oldest section of Cairo." He had earlier told me he was born in Azbakia, but today maintained that this street was in Sakakini. Can you verify, possibly through consulting a Cairo map or doing an Arabic Internet search, that this street is located in the Sakakini neighborhood? Badagnani (talk) 09:29, 25 February 2008 (UTC) Regarding the category, please be aware that he is not a churchgoing, devoutly religious Coptic Christian (although that is his cultural background). Nevertheless, he is a very spiritual person and respects all religions. Badagnani (talk) 09:30, 25 February 2008 (UTC) He said he was sure it was Sakakini (near Daher) at the time he was born. I don't think the street name should be included in the article header, though it could be in the article's text if you feel it's important enough. Badagnani (talk) 09:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
There are different ways to do templates; some of them have groupings and some are alphabetical. Whichever way this template "evolves" is fine; it's just that some of the areas are cultural areas, some are within others, etc. So alphabetical might be the way to to--or the parenthetical way you suggest. As long as we continuously improve, it will be fine. Nice to meet you and proceed at your own pace, as always. It's just exciting to see such improvement. 24.29.228.33 (talk) 10:02, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you; I've left a message at Wikipedia:WikiProject Egypt about the many neighborhood articles in the box that redirect to Cairo. I think they each need their own article. Badagnani (talk) 23:14, 26 February 2008 (UTC) Maybe he was Coptic. Badagnani (talk) 19:38, 25 February 2008 (UTC) How wonderful, thank you for this kindness. If you can find things in Arabic on the Internet about Greiss if he was Coptic, go ahead and add more about him. Badagnani (talk) 23:12, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
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