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User talk:Gandydancer/Archive 1{talk archive}} Welcome!  It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. Gandy dancer - you are reverting pages that you know NOTHING about. Please get a life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tcprosser (talk • contribs) 02:52, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch You will find more information about this at WP:USEPRIMARY. You may use primary sources (particularly high-quality primary sources). Even MEDRS agrees that primary sources are (at least occasionally) useful and appropriate, particularly for recent information and for subjects for which proper reviews are rare. "Primary" is not an alternative spelling for "unreliable". What you particularly want to avoid is using a primary source to de-bunk a secondary. "According to this newly reported experiment, ___" is okay; "All the reviews say X, but this little primary source proves them wrong" is not. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:53, 21 February 2012 (UTC) horizon oil spill relief wellsThe citation was provided in a previous version. Some troll removed it. I have been struggling to keep this piece of information in the wiki but I do not have time to do this. I quit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jinxman1 (talk • contribs) 14:39, 13 June 2010 (UTC) Cold medicineYou replaced a review with primary research therefore reverted.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:15, 24 November 2009 (UTC) November 2009
Joseph CampbellThank you for participating in the on-going discussion and editing of the Joseph Campbell article! As you've found, Wikipedia is a funny combination: an anarchist belief in the hive mind at work and a set of very stringent (if not always stringently applied) rules for ensuring the highest usability, accuracy and neutrality of articles. The learning curve can be challenging, but it is worthwhile, I promise! In any case, I look forward to your further contributions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.101.214.191 (talk) 18:52, 2 December 2009 (UTC) 2009 flu pandemic, regarding diagnosis sectionHi Gandydancer, I responded to some of your points on the discussion page. By all means, Yes, please include the best quality stuff you can find. And it sounds like this is a real issue. Cool Nerd (talk) 02:47, 9 December 2009 (UTC) Re: ReferencingYes,
Hi, I saw you had a bit of difficulty with a ref on Deepwater Horizon oil spill -- great AP scoop and incredible details in that story. I fixed ref. Two tools can help a lot with formatted refs: no-install (bookmark) Citation generator makes it easy -- just select type (news, Web, etc), fill in the required fields, and cut and paste Wiki text. But I prefer Wikipedia:RefToolbar 2.0, which adds one-click access to these templates to your edit box for super ease of use -- pull down Template (news, Web, book, journal) from drop down box (hit Cite button if template selections not visible) and fill in the required blanks. It offers preview of not only Wiki text, but also preview of exactly how it will render in References. One click and ref data inserted at cursor (so position that at end of sentence first). Install one-line script in your User space, per instructions, reload browser, and you're off and running in seconds, literally. Paulscrawl (talk) 17:58, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Roma IQ studies"This IQ info is absurd! This was one, deeply flawed study, not a review of studies at all)" Don't correct other people's links, when you don't read them, you dolt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.235.19.212 (talk) 02:38, 10 December 2009 (UTC) Hi. Just to inform you, regarding this edit, that ScienceDirect is a database of journal articles so it's not correct to state that the "study has not been published in a peer reviewed journal, rather it has been published on-line at ScienceDirect". It was in fact published in Intelligence. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:25, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
common coldThe study is already there and refed to the journal.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:37, 12 December 2009 (UTC) MSYou need to get consensus before adding this stuff again about CCVSI.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:27, 21 December 2009 (UTC) January 2010
Wikipedia guidelinesHi Gandydancer, just to let you know that I responded on my talk page to your question about Wikipedia guidelines. Vitaminman (talk) 15:14, 3 January 2010 (UTC) Swine fluHi there, first off thanks very much for your work on this article, this has been a very important test for Wikipedia and due to editors such as yourself I think we have done pretty well. Cool Nerd asked for some advice and help with the talkpage discussions, I've responded on his talkpage and have read through more of that discussion. One approach I might recommend for you (I can see some frustration in your responses) is to copy the parts of the text that are under discussion onto the talkpage. This can then be redrafted and discussed and hopefully having the text there will help focus the discussions. I tend to use the
template to do this, since it makes the draft stand out more. Anyway, hope this helps Tim Vickers (talk) 21:33, 7 January 2010 (UTC) I'm concerned about the quality of sources being used here, see talkpage for discussion. Tim Vickers (talk) 21:18, 11 January 2010 (UTC) 2009 flu pandemicGandydancer, I also look forward to our once again having a good relationship. Now, I am a radical in some regards, and that's likely to remain the case. But, I think we most likely have many areas of overlap where we can work together very constructively. For example, we both think it’s important for our page to meaningfully communicate with parents, right? Cool Nerd (talk) 19:42, 13 January 2010 (UTC) PS And where is that good joke on Tim’s page! Re: H1N1Not seeing what you're talking about. Could you elaborate? --Cybercobra (talk) 00:33, 19 January 2010 (UTC) What browser and OS are you using? --Cybercobra (talk) 00:52, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Subpage createdI've created User:Gandydancer/Naica for your use as you redo the article. Left a link at Talk:Cave of the Crystals. Works in progress are usually done this way for various reasons. I've answered/commented on a couple things and have your subpage watchlisted. When its ready you can move back to the article or replace parts of the article with your work. Vsmith (talk) 19:59, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
re: AltMedjust as a piece of advice, you should read wp:bait. don't let yourself get caught up in the personal commentary, because what will eventually happen (once you get worked up enough) is that some hitherto uninvolved admin will show up out of the blue and block you for disruptive editing. be calm, be focused, and if other editors insist on making personal comments, ignore it (or leave me a note on my talk page and I'll deal with it - I have a lot of experience with this kind of thing). do your best to think kind, peaceful thoughts. April 2010
For subjects exclusively related to Britain (for example, a famous British person), use British English. For something related to the United States in the same way, use American English. For something related to other English-speaking countries, such as Canada, Australia, or New Zealand, use the appropriate variety of English used there. If it is an international topic, use the same form of English the original author used. In view of that, please don't change articles from one version of English to the other, even if you don't normally use the version the article is written in. Respect other people's versions of English. They in turn should respect yours. Other general guidelines on how Wikipedia articles are written can be found in the Wikipedia:Manual of Style. If you have any queries about all this, you can ask me on my talk page or you can visit the help desk. Thank you. emerson7 04:08, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Greetings Gandydancer - please accept my apologies. I didn't know that one and thought "weiner" was a more modern term. I was, in fact, going to substitute it for the "lemon" song, but thought there were already enough titles in there. Again, I'm sorry for slapping the vandalism tag on you. I owe you one. PS. Why don't you delete the warning I've struck and just leave my apology here - it's your talk page and you can do what you want!--Technopat (talk) 09:30, 18 April 2010 (UTC) He did sing "Please Warm My Wiener". See your talk page. Gandydancer (talk) 01:27, 18 April 2010 (UTC) Gandy-dancer ChantIt's one I've seen on antique signs and such. I don't know about the authenticity of it, but I still think it's funny. Glad you enjoyed it! Kalmbach (talk) 20:09, 20 April 2010 (UTC) May 2010Deepwater Horizon oil spillKittybrewster ☎ 11:27, 6 May 2010 (UTC) Hi Kitty, My edit: The type of oil involved is also a major problem. While most of the oil drilled off Louisiana is a lighter crude, because the leak is deep under the ocean surface the leaking oil is a heavier blend which contains asphalt-like substances, and, according to Ed Overton, who heads a federal chemical hazard assessment team for oil spills, this type of oil emulsifies well, making a "major sticky mess". Once it becomes that kind of mix, it no longer evaporates as quickly as regular oil, doesn't rinse off as easily, can't be eaten by microbes as easily, and doesn't burn as well. "That type of mixture essentially removes all the best oil clean-up weapons", Overton and others said.[1] This info is referenced and I believe appropriate for the article. Please explain why you feel it is "not constructive". Gandydancer (talk) 11:37, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to personally compliment the two of you for dealing with this issue as calmly as you have.Naraht (talk) 13:09, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
--Wanted to make sure you got one of these. Awesome job! - Aalox (Say Hello • My Work) 19:11, 17 May 2010 (UTC) Excessive summary edits on Deepwater Horizon oil spillThank you for your support. I responded. Paulscrawl (talk) 16:59, 28 May 2010 (UTC) EcologyHey, I don't remember Peabody's coal train but I remember Mr. Whoopee explaining the unlimited advantages of mass production with his 3d bb. I changed by comment in the Ecology discussion section to say now is the time to take the 'before' pictures for eventual inclusion in the article.Createangelos (talk) 02:40, 23 June 2010 (UTC) Re: Thank you so much!You're quite welcome. He was definitely acting in an appropriate manner and his additions of irrelevant material to the talk page defied Wikipedia policies. If he continues to bother you in the future or act inappropriately, you need not hesitate to let me or anyone else here know about it. Cheers and happy editing!. — CIS (talk | stalk) 15:41, 28 June 2010 (UTC) Editing talk page commentsI thought I'd move this here rather than User talk:MichaelWestbrook. I was unaware that users are not allowed to edit their own comments on other's talk pages, could you point me in the direction of the relevant policy? I looked earlier but to no avail! Thanks, raseaCtalk to me 18:19, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikipedia:_The_Missing_Manual/Collaborating_with_Other_Editors/Communicating_with_Your_Fellow_Editors I am not an experenced editor and I'm surprised I found it - I'll probably never be able to find it again... :) Gandydancer (talk) 21:49, 4 July 2010 (UTC) No misunderstandingOf course we are on friendly terms. I was just trying to put the whole thing to rest. It pains me to see long threads like that -- such an unconstructive use of our time. You've been around for a while, so you know that such user talk threads must be geared to ending, and not "feeding" the dialogue.
Hi Anna and Paul. I put quite a bit of thought into that post - it was not dashed off on the spur of the moment. I remain uncertain as to whether or not it was the right thing to do, but I am certain that it was the right thing for me to do. Over the years I have worked with abused women and children and as such have strong feelings about women's issues. While it may be seen by some as "feeding" the issue, I did not see it that way. Editing would be easy enough if it were not for the discussion that is so often necessary. As you know, Wikipedia uses consensus and consensus can be very difficult since it insists that each speaker must be willing and must be allowed to express their point of view. To close a discussion because it is difficult is never a good idea and not fair to those involved. Gandydancer (talk) 12:56, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Slippery matterHi Gandydancer: I meant I don't care either way about the past tense, not about what you said. I liked what you said. Funny, isn't it? Something like 15 thousand visitors a day, and nearly 300 editors watching the page, and not a peep about the switch to past tense. Sometimes I just don't get Wikipedia. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:59, 25 July 2010 (UTC) Well yes, I was thinking the same thing! Anna, if the truth be known, it is quite surprising that I edit at all. I never was one to have a way with words, plus my father published a book and my two sisters both write extremely well - so I was sort of the black sheep and have little confidence in myself in that area. Add to that, I really have few computer skills - I still have not been able to figure out how to upload a photo though I read the Photos for Dummies section. But I love Wikipedia, and I feel a responsibility to do my share. Considering that the corporate world spends millions upon millions to influence the public, if it weren't for us they could easily take over Wikipedia. As always, it is good to hear from you. Gandydancer (talk) 12:56, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
References made easyYou might find this useful: I've been using this. It fixes up the references automatically. I don't know if you're familiar with it. It will turn this into this.
Very handy. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:58, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:37, 6 August 2010 (UTC) References made easy: ExampleThis.:
<ref>http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/70/15/6368.abstract</ref>
becomes this:
<ref>{{cite web|url=http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/70/15/6368.abstract |title=Fructose Induces Transketolase Flux to Promote Pancreatic Cancer Growth — Cancer Res |publisher=Cancerres.aacrjournals.org |date= |accessdate=2010-08-06}}</ref>
and renders like this:
1. ^ "Fructose Induces Transketolase Flux to Promote Pancreatic Cancer Growth — Cancer Res". Cancerres.aacrjournals.org. Retrieved 2010-08-06.
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:44, 6 August 2010 (UTC) Since you were interested...It's not especially relevant to the ADHD article, but since you're interested: On the first day of the school year in California, the Kindergarten teacher may be faced with students as young as 4 years, 9 months, and as old as six years, 11 months (not counting students with disabilities, who may be older). The state requires schools to accept students whose fifth birthdays are before December 2nd -- thus the 4.75-year-old child. It also prohibits the school from requiring a student to attend any school at all before the sixth birthday -- thus the nearly 7-year-old child, who couldn't be forced into school the previous year. This appears to be the legal maximum for normal admissions; the typical age range in a Kindergarten classroom seems to be about 16-18 months. Additionally, there are complications with students who begin school in other states, and a variety of adjustments made for students with disabilities (some of whom both start Kindergarten later than average and also spend two years in Kindergarten). In some other countries, it appears that Kindergarten is normally a two-year program. WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:28, 3 September 2010 (UTC) CCSVIWhile I agree with your comments, since this edit is quite controverted it would be a good idea to try to reach consensus at talk page first or we would end on an edit-war.--Garrondo (talk) 19:43, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Baby Doe TaborThanks for the note on Baby Doe. Do you know where we can find a copyright-free picture of Baby Doe that we could use in the article? Plazak (talk) 01:41, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Gandy dancerPhotos added! :-) best wishes, Richard Myers (talk) 23:05, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
HaitiOkay! :) Just re-added it, as I said from your remark. I had heard it before, that the shallowness of the quake made it worse, which seems to make sense. So I thought it was a slam dunk when someone ref-ed it. Agree that it needs to be more scientific. Will keep my eye out for a better ref. Basically did this the lazy man's way. Now to actually work! :) Thanks for the heads up! Student7 (talk) 23:00, 6 January 2011 (UTC) Only. Again. Still. YetLet's say you are six feet tall. No one has ever measured you but you weren't that height exactly. It is written in the sky. With a deliberate axe to grind, I report, "Gandydancer is only six feet tall," meaning, of course you "should" be taller. Maybe I report basketball or something. Or I say, "Gandydancer is still six feet tall." Should have changed. Why hasn't he? "..is yet six feet tall." Should be something other than that height. To avoid the perception of bias on my part, I could report objectively and merely say "Gandydancer is six feet tall." People, including sports fans, can put whatever spin they want on that. I have not put any. And being an encyclopedia reporter and not a media reporter, that is indeed, what I would do. Student7 (talk) 22:27, 15 January 2011 (UTC) 2011 Wisconsin protests - talk section: MerrillI would not characterize your efforts regarding the Merrill protests as "misguided". However, I did suggest what I think would be a better way of handling it in the future under the talk section. Overall, we came to a desirable solution in the aftermath and I appreciate the comments regarding. Best wishes and happy editing. Stylteralmaldo (talk) 13:49, 21 March 2011 (UTC) haiti earthquakesThe fact that the geometries of the sun earth and moon were identical in the cases of the 1907 kingston earthquake and the 2010 haiti earthquake is an interesting observation I decided to note on the page, but you deleted it calling it Vandalism. Last year there was a 8.8 magnitude Chilean earthquake as the Sun, Earth and Jupiter were lining up. I know I am suggesting a correlation, but it is interesting nonetheless, and very useful than most information because it might save lives. Don't burn books.Ngrant5 (talk) 07:51, 29 March 2011 (UTC)Ngrant5 Campbell ArticleHi, I rewrote the article we talked about some weeks ago. Please have a look and let me know if you agree One aspect of Campbell’s analysis focused on the evolution of the mythic imaginary through history. The forces responsible where environmental, with the source of food being of primary importance, as well as social, with influences from neighbouring cultures. He indentified stages of evolution which can be summed up to the following Hunting and Gathering Societies (The Way of Animal Powers) At this stage of evolution, religion was animistic, with all of nature seen as being infused with some kind of spirit or divine presence. At the center stage was the main hunting animal of that culture, whether the buffalo for Native American or the Eland for South African tribes and a large part of their religion focused on dealing with the psychological tension that came from the reality of the kill (versus the divinity of the animal being hunted). This was done by presenting the animals as a willing participants, springing from an eternal archetypal source and coming to this world as "willing victims with the understanding that their lives [...] will be returned to the soil or to Mother through some ritual of restoration"[24]. The act of slaughter then becomes a ritual where both parties, animal and man, are equal participants. In his last interview with Bill Moyers as well as in his lectures, later released as Mythos, he recounts the story he calls the Buffalo's Wife as told by the Blackfoot tribe in North America which recounts the origin of the buffalo dance.The story tells of a time when the buffalo stopped coming to the plains and the chief's daughter promises to marry the buffalo chief in return for their reappearance. She is eventually spared and is taught the mystic knowledge of the buffalo dance, which is the ritual that allows the spirits of the dead animals to return.
Higher Cultures of the Ancient World (The Celestial Lights) As the cultures of the Near East evolved into the high civilisations of Mesopotamia and Babylonia. The constant observation of the stars gave people the idea that life on earth must also follow the same mathematically predetermined path where individual beings are but mere participants in a cosmic play. The king was symbolised by the Sun, with the golden crown being the metaphor, while his court where the orbiting planets. The Mother Goddess remained but her powers where now fixed within the rigid framework of a clockwork Universe. As the Indo-European (Aryan) people descended from the north, carrying with them their masculine warrior gods, they blended with the previous system of the Earth Godess, creating many of the great mythologies of ancient Greece, Rome, India and Persia. Figures like Zeus and Indra are thunder gods who now interact in the same system with Demeter and Dionysus who's ritual sacrifice was still enacted in Classical Greece. In the lecture series of Mythos Campbell speaks of the Mysteries of Eleusis in Ancient Greece, where Demeter's journey in the underworld was enacted for young men and women of the time. There he observed that weat was presented as the ultimate mystery much as it is in the Christian mysteries in the form of bread. Both religions carrying the same "seeded earth" cosmology in different forms.
Creative Mythology Campbell believed that in the modern world, the position of formal mythological systems is taken by individual creators such as artists and philosophers. In the works of his favourites like Thomas Mann, Pablo Picasso and James Joyce, he saw mythological themes that could serve the same life giving purpose that mythology once played. Accordingly, Campbell believed the religions of the world to be the various, culturally influenced “masks” of the same fundamental, transcendent truths. All religions, including Christianity and Buddhism, can bring one to an elevated awareness above and beyond a dualistic conception of reality, or idea of “pairs of opposites,” such as being and non-being, or right and wrong. Indeed, he quotes in the preface of The Hero with a Thousand Faces: "Truth is one, the sages speak of it by many names."—which is a translation of the Rig Vedic saying, "Ekam Sat Vipra Bahuda Vadanthi." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmick66 (talk • contribs) 10:46, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
OK, I will continue to try to give my feedback: Creative Mythology Campbell believed that in the modern world the position of formal mythological systems is taken by individual creators such as artists and philosophers. In the works of some of his favorites such as Thomas Mann, Pablo Picasso and James Joyce, he saw mythological themes that could serve the same life-giving purpose that mythology once played. Accordingly, Campbell believed the religions of the world to be the various culturally influenced “masks” of the same fundamental, transcendent truths. All religions can bring one to an elevated awareness above and beyond a dualistic conception of reality, or idea of “pairs of opposites” such as being and non-being, or right and wrong. Indeed, he quotes in the preface of The Hero with a Thousand Faces: "Truth is one, the sages speak of it by many names"—which is a translation of the Rig Vedic saying, "Ekam Sat Vipra Bahuda Vadanthi." What do you think? Gandydancer (talk) 21:56, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Medieval mythology and romantic love Campbell recognized that the poetic form of courtly love, carried through medieval Europe by the traveling troubadours, contained a complete mythology in its own right.[25][26] In the The Power of Myth as well as the "Occidental Mythology" volume of The Masks of God, Campbell describes the emergence of a new kind of erotic experience as a "person to person" affair, in contrast with the purely physical definition given to Eros in the the ancient world and the communal agape found in the Christian religion. An archetypal story of this kind is the legend of Tristan and Isolde which, apart from its mystical function, shows the transition from an arranged marriage society as practiced in the middle ages and sanctified by the church, into the form of marriage by "falling in love" with another person that we recognize today. So what essentially started from a mythological theme has since become a social reality, mainly due to a change in perception brought about by a new mythology. Gandydancer (talk) 22:16, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
I don't have any information of my own on this section and have no idea what to do with it. As the Indo-European (Aryan) people descended from the north, carrying with them their masculine warrior gods, they blended with the previous system of the Earth Godess, creating many of the great mythologies of ancient Greece, Rome, India and Persia. Figures like Zeus and Indra are thunder gods who now interact in the same system with Demeter and Dionysus who's ritual sacrifice was still enacted in Classical Greece. In the lecture series of Mythos Campbell speaks of the Mysteries of Eleusis in Ancient Greece, where Demeter's journey in the underworld was enacted for young men and women of the time. There he observed that weat was presented as the ultimate mystery much as it is in the Christian mysteries in the form of bread. Both religions carrying the same "seeded earth" cosmology in different forms. CHANGES FOLLOW I am very familiar with this information but I would have presented it very differently. It is my impression that you have tried to present so much information that it is jumbled and hard to follow. I won't try to make any changes. Gandydancer (talk) 22:59, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Hunting and gathering societies At this stage of evolution religion was animistic, with all of nature seen as being infused with the spirit of the divine. At center stage was the main hunting animal of that culture, whether the buffalo for Native Americans or the eland for South African tribes, and a large part of religion focused on dealing with the psychological tension that came from the reality of the necessity to kill versus the divinity of the animal. This was done by presenting the animals as willing participants springing from an eternal archetypal source and coming to this world as willing victims, with the understanding that their lives would be returned to the soil or to the Mother through a ritual of restoration.[24] The act of slaughter then becomes a ritual where both parties, animal and mankind, are equal participants. In his last interview with Bill Moyers as well as in his lectures, Campbell recounts the story he calls "The Buffalo's Wife" as told by the Blackfoot tribe of North America. The story tells of a time when the buffalo stopped coming to the plains and the chief's daughter promises to marry the buffalo chief in return for their reappearance. She is eventually spared and is taught the mystic knowledge of the buffalo dance, which is the ritual that allows the spirits of the dead animals to return. Indeed, Campbell taught that throughout history mankind has held a belief that all life comes from and returns to another dimension which transcends temporality, but which can be reached through ritual. NOTE THAT I HAVE ADDED A SENTENCE HERE Gandydancer (talk) 23:20, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Agricultural Societies (The Seeded Earth) Starting off on the fertile grasslands of Europe in the Bronze Age and moving to the Levant and the "Fertile Crescent" of Mesopotamia, the arts of agriculture spread together with a new way of understanding the world in relation to them and the Earth and myths focused around her life-giving powers. The plant and cultivation cycle was mirrored in religious rituals which often included human sacrifice symbolic or literal. The main figures of this system where a femae Great Godess, Mother Earth and her ever-dying and ever-resurrected son/consort, a male God. The focus here was to participate in the repetitive rhythm the world moved in, variously expressed as the four seasons, the birth and death of crops and the phases of the moon. At the center of this motion was the Mother Goddess from whom life would spring and to whom life would return. This often gave her a dual aspect as a mother and as a destroyer CHANGES: Agricultural Societies Beginning in the fertile grasslands of Europe in the Bronze Age and moving to the Levant and the Fertile Crescent of Mesopotamia, the practice of agriculture spread along with a new way of understanding mankind's relationship to the world. At this time the earth was seen as the Mother, and the myths focused around Her life-giving powers. The plant and cultivation cycle was mirrored in religious rituals which often included human sacrifice, symbolic or literal. The main figures of this system were a female Great Goddess, Mother Earth, and her ever-dying and ever-resurrected son/consort, a male God. At this time the focus was to participate in the repetitive rhythm the world moved in expressed as the four seasons, the birth and death of crops and the phases of the moon. At the center of this motion was the Mother Goddess from whom all life springs and to whom all life returns. This often gave Her a dual aspect as both mother and destroyer. Gandydancer (talk) 11:25, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Indian Love CallHar! That song...is so...odd...and makes me howl every time I see the Martians die in Mars Attacks. Ok, so the thing with non-free media is that one has to write a super duper fair use rationale, with sources and everything that say unequivocally how important this file is. Do you have the sources to do that? Can you write a few sentences to describe, like this one, how important this sample is? And it has to be shorter than 30 seconds, so 29 if possible. Which 30 seconds would you like? --Moni3 (talk) 01:27, 15 April 2011 (UTC) VetoI didn't say it would have done anything _useful_, I just said he could have vetoed it. It almost certainly would have been overridden, but he could have made that choice. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:24, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. As a heads up this topic area is under a 1RR restriction per Wikipedia:GS. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 15:01, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Question about Deepwater spill articleHi, i've seen you for a year now on the BP spill article. I've been doing a lot of editing there, but always with an IP. Finally got myself a username. The page is locked now, and I don't see a time limit. That is new to me, i wonder why that happened and whether some policy has changed at Wiki to allow this? Thanks, Petrarchan47 (talk) 23:51, 26 May 2011 (UTC) Abortion: a matter of life and death?Hi, GD, you said:
Right, I had totally forgotten that everyone's split over "life begins at birth". Of course, they mean "human life" which in turn means that the fetus *is* a human being (and all that implies). And if it's a human being, and it's alive, then killing it is homicide, i.e., murder, eh? (I will bring this back to talk:abortion ... I'm not trying to split the thread.) When I get back there, I see I'll have to distinguish between "causing the living cells of the fetus to die" and "killing a baby" (wish me luck). --Uncle Ed (talk) 03:51, 17 June 2011 (UTC) Well you'll need it. Having no idea about who you are I meant to check your talk page but accidentally clicked Michael's talk page where I found this post related to this issue (Orange was the first to bring up the no death without life consideration): [edit] Talk:Abortion
That's me - I'm the lone incompetent twat. :D Gandydancer (talk) 13:01, 17 June 2011 (UTC):
Hey. I think I understand your concern about "death". You don't want the first sentence of the article to be understood as declaring that meaningful human life (or "ensoulment") begins at conception or implantation. Looking at the 2006-2011 version, what word could we swap with death to solve this particular problem, putting aside for the moment other problems you may have with the 2006-2011 version? "Expiration"? "Demise"? "Cessation"? "Loss"? "Assassination"? Well, maybe not that last one. Please think it over, and maybe discuss at the article talk page if such a word exists. Thanks.Anythingyouwant (talk) 23:24, 18 July 2011 (UTC) "suspended the use" ≠ "changed their laws"Hello Gandydancer. In your 01:20, 30 June 2011 post above, you pasted the following quote from EPA's website: "Several European countries have suspended the use of certain pesticides in response to incidents involving acute poisoning of honey bees". You then quote from a question I asked you on the clothianidin talk page: "do you have a credible citation for your claim that Germany changed its laws because of the 2008 incident? You seem to be basing your position on an uncited assumption." You follow this up with the statement: "Actually I never claimed that, but as a matter of fact, er yes, the EPA said that and I assume that they are a credible citation." As a reminder, here's the statement you actually made: "For instance, the Germany incident - if this incident actually did result in the German decision to change their laws re its use, I would feel that that is notable information and within the guidelines of Wikipedia policy." I apologize for incorrectly stating that you "claimed" the Germans changed their laws as a result of the incident. It would have been more accurate for me to say you first posited that the Germans "changed their laws" as a result of the incident, then you used that uncited hypothesis to justify your "feel[ing] that that is notable information and within the guidelines of Wikipedia policy." Unfortunately, your hypothesis that the Germans "changed their laws" was baseless. The text you quoted from USEPA's web page does not say, imply or infer that "Germany changed its laws" (italics added) because of the incident; the exact phrase is "suspended the use." What Germany changed was not the "law," but rather the registration status of a use or uses of a pesticide. This is not an insignificant distinction. For example, USEPA has in the past suspended and cancelled uses of many pesticides (e.g. DDT). The agency takes these actions consistent with established regulations, which are based on federal law. "Changing the law" requires an Act of Congress (ie a REALLY REALLY big thing). While approving, suspending, or cancelling a pesticide use isn't small potatoes, it's generally not even in the same order of magnitude as an act of congress. It is my understanding that German laws and pesticide regulatory decisions use roughly the same processes as we do in the U.S. So when you posited that the Germans "changed their laws" you substantively misstated the facts, which--coincidentally?--promotes a biased point of view by inferring a greatly exaggerated version of the actual facts of the matter. The cumulative effect on public perception of little (and, no doubt, innocent) slips like this one are the reason I am tasked by USEPA with trying to bring NPOV to some of Wikipedia's pesticide chemical pages. The more these innocent little slips show up, the longer I'm going to have to be around. Peace --USEPA James (talk) 21:58, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
ApologyGandydancer, I am sorry I was rather sharp the other day in responce to a couple of your questions. I find it difficult to grasp what one other editor is saying at times. Sometimes it seems like editors just remember their last comment. Thankyou for your efforts at brokering a compromise. I have no problem acknowledging strengths in others arguments. What I think the problem is and you probably see this also is that there are two sets of editors, one wanting to hold on to a previous consensus, and another wanting to advance a new one. The thing is neither is wrong in wanting to either hold onto the existing consensus, or wanting to advance a new one. I tried the latter on another article and ended up topic banned! But that is all I can say about that. Yet here I am trying to defend an existing consensus that experienced admin say is the result of a hard won compromise, and I am getting blocked! Yes I agree with the existing consensus and so that makes it easier to defend. Yet what is causing this dispute - bad faith and misunderstanding? Probably. Neither side wishes to open the door too wide, for fear of what might slip in. The pro-choice leaning editors undoubtedly are leery of any mentioning of killing in the article, and might have a coronry if m....r slipped in. But seriously is that really a risk? On Wikipedia? The site leans at least slightly toward liberal views, if it didn't there would be no Conservapedia. Can you see a strong consensus being established for "Abortion is the killing of the unborn in the womb". Thats my view, but I don't see it having much possibility of making it into the article, and I would not try to push for it either, because while I have no problem with pro-life literature using this language, I know the difference between a pamphlet and an encyclopedia article. So as I see it pro-life concerns about the direction the article might take and is taking are more realistic than pro-choice concerns - it is not moving towards pro-life rhetoric. Do you see what I am saying? Best. DMSBel (talk) 22:08, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Gandy, Your attempt to summarize how the "death" editors might see the unfolding of the lede discussions is refreshing and welcome. I think it would be important to include: 1) something about the behavior of several editors who changed the lede without respecting the FAQ (and also changed the FAQ) and 2) the fact that not one death editor has argued anything about personhood and instead has relied upon science and medicine and 3) the most popular English-langauge medical dictionary (and regular dictionary) includes death in the definition (it is the top medical dictionary at Amazon and the online dictionary used by the NIH's MEDline. 71.3.232.238 (talk) 17:21, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Clothianidin edit conflict.I had an edit conflict with you on Clothianidin. Please check it and let me know if I have caused errors in your edit. ArtifexMayhem (talk) 01:31, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
TalkbackMessage added 01:31, 14 July 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Missed your post earlier, sorry. NW (Talk) 01:31, 14 July 2011 (UTC) Porky Pig and blue christmasI agree the porky pig version just has it over Bing's, but only by a scratch. That said, I hate it when they change the words - white christmas - blue christmas! LOL. [[2]] DMSBel (talk) 18:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC) Wired magazine?My guess is that Wired magazine is not a reliable source. In general, your recent edits on methyl iodide verge on pushing a POV and overly dramatic (Nobelists out defending the fetus, the elderly...). Much of the content is almost provincial (i.e., WP:UNDUE undue weight is given) - about the US province/state of California. My guess is that most readers of Wikipedia are not from the US, much less California. When WP articles on chemicals are written in an unbalanced way, the very environmental issues of interest are subverted and disserved. At least in my opinion.--Smokefoot (talk) 22:16, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
GandydancerHello Gandydancer Formal mediation has been requestedThe Mediation Committee has received a request for formal mediation of the dispute relating to "Abortion". As an editor concerned in this dispute, you are invited to participate in the mediation. Mediation is a voluntary process which resolves a dispute over article content by facilitation, consensus-building, and compromise among the involved editors. After reviewing the request page, the formal mediation policy, and the guide to formal mediation, please indicate in the "party agreement" section whether you agree to participate. Because requests must be responded to by the Mediation Committee within seven days, please respond to the request by January 11, 2011. Discussion relating to the mediation request is welcome at the case talk page. Thank you. My apologiesfor the Talk:Abortion thing. As someone who feels just as strongly, if not more so, as you on the other side of the debate, I should be the last one questioning your ability to edit the article. NYyankees51 (talk) 19:53, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Request for mediation rejectedThe request for formal mediation concerning Abortion, to which you were listed as a party, has been declined. To read an explanation by the Mediation Committee for the rejection of this request, see the mediation request page, which will be deleted by an administrator after a reasonable time. Please direct questions relating to this request to the Chairman of the Committee, or to the mailing list. For more information on forms of dispute resolution, other than formal mediation, that are available, see Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. For the Mediation Committee, AGK [•] 14:53, 26 July 2011 (UTC) You're being discussed at the Dispute Resolution NoticeboardYou've been listed as a disputant at the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard. The thread in question is Rutabaga. Have a nice day. Hasteur (talk) 13:05, 5 August 2011 (UTC) Rutabaga-O-LanternsHello, I saw the request for dispute resolution at WP:DRN and I think I might be able to help mediate the dispute. I have some experience as a mediator (I was even a member of WP:MEDCOM briefly) and would be interested in helping find a solution to the current dispute. -- Atama頭 17:19, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi Gandydancer, I've rolled back your blanking of that page, because it needs at least some text on it. Graham87 14:20, 16 August 2011 (UTC) COIHave you declared a conflict of interest at Wikipedia?Anythingyouwant (talk) 04:04, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
Former NOW president Kim Gandy was born in 1954. Per Talk:Elvis_Presley#Haley.2FSnow.2FPresley_ad, editor Gandydancer was "one of those screaming girls" who adored Elvis in the 1950s. Unless "screaming girls" includes screaming infants, the accusation of COI appears to have no foundation. Binksternet (talk) 23:18, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Virginia Earthquake ImpactHi... I saw your edit this morning of the impact section. It's basically a reorganization of the information that was there, which is great, but I can't see support for this: "A magnitude 5.5 eastern U.S. earthquake can usually be felt as far as 300 miles (500 km) from where it occurred, and sometimes causes damage as far away as 25 miles (40 km)." in the source given for that paragraph. Do you have another source? It would be great to add if we can properly source it. Cheers! Wikipelli Talk 11:57, 30 August 2011 (UTC) ArbCom Case: AbortionThis message is to inform you that you have been added as a party to a currently open Arbitration case, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Abortion, per Arbitrator instructions. You may provide evidences and comments at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Abortion/Evidence. For the Arbitration Committee, Marvelous additionThanks for adding good information to the article about Opposition to the legalization of abortion. Cheers! Binksternet (talk) 23:03, 5 September 2011 (UTC) YodelingYou can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. "You believe it improved the wording" - how exactly?DMSBel (talk) 23:42, 8 September 2011 (UTC) Yodelling referenceI think I found the reference you were looking for - I posted it on the Talk page at Yodelling. --HighKing (talk) 00:00, 17 September 2011 (UTC) A cheeseburger for you!
FYII wasn't sure what you were referring to on the talk page, and you had me confused with your response. The page history shows that Lihaas (talk · contribs) removed the see also section.[3] His edit summary said something about replacing it with a template. Viriditas (talk) 13:48, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
Copyedit help neededHello Gandy, may you give an hand to correct my English please. That's well sourced, and far more serious than to report the breast photography, and just 7 lines wrote by myself. Easy to manage for a native speaker. May you help ? Yug (talk) 12:30, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Using fringe sourcesThe New American is not a RS for anything on Wikipedia except for information about the John Birch Society. Please do not continue to add it into Occupy Wall Street. If you would like clarification on this matter, feel free to start a noticeboard request over at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 08:22, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Cleanup of parkThe next time you find yourself about to delete relevant and sourced content because for organizational purposes, please reconsider. I would ask you to consider putting it elsewhere, but it was especially appropriate exactly where it was. I restored this content; please don't remove it again. Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS) (talk) (contribs) 14:27, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Information seems to be missing from the body of the article.Or I just couldn't find it. If it is not in the article already, using it for the lede is undue weight and will surely be disputed. Can you add this and see if it holds firm. The information itself seems more than reasonable but not if it is just summarizing the movement and not the information in the article.--Amadscientist (talk) 14:48, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
It does answer my question. I apologize if I sounded as if I was assuming bad faith. I am simply exhausted and half stupid at this point for staying up more than 4 hours past my bed time. I couldn't find the letter A in the article at this point. LOL! Good night(for me)...or good morning!--Amadscientist (talk) 15:17, 23 October 2011 (UTC) OWSCareful, you are on 3R on the article. Nice compromise on the last edit though, well done. The Last Angry Man (talk) 23:30, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
Elizabeth Warren GAAt Talk:Elizabeth Warren/GA1, please let me strike out the text that I consider addressed or fixed. Binksternet (talk) 05:02, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Of continued interestPer Talk:Occupy_Wall_Street/Archive_7 you were in favor of adding the wikilink Global financial system. Are you still? Also see Talk:"Occupy" protests # Wikilink global financial system. 99.109.126.95 (talk) 23:08, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
owsHey, would you mind just pointing me to the discussion of this?. It seems worthy of inclusion on the face of it. Be——Critical 19:48, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
GiggleWait, wait ... you wanted to include it and yet you have not been battling tooth and nail to include it, no matter the cost? Inconceivable! Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS) (talk) (contribs) 21:35, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, but I'll passI'm glad you found the assessment helpful, and I'm willing to look at things if you need an uninvolved pair of eyes, but... honestly, good luck. There are a couple of people on that talk page who appear to be of the activist bent. I had a "fun" time with that a little while ago, and honestly talking to activists is like talking to religious fanatics: they have the WP:TRUTH, and they aren't going to listen. I'm not really active enough on the project to be a big help anyway. My preferred long-term solution would be a more rigorous enforcement of WP:NOTNEWS, but I know that's not likely to happen. SDY (talk) 22:27, 30 October 2011 (UTC) A kitten for you! Kitties for hard work and because cuteness can help with stress reduction. :) LauraHale (talk) 20:26, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
He's been reported for edit warring. He's left comments on my talk page. My archiving of them didn't send a clear message that I didn't want to engage him. I think I archived his comments three times. WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT and the agenda pushing are annoying. As a female contributor, I find him continuing to come into #wikimedia-gendergap connect to complain about my actions to be really disturbing. His actions do nothing to fix the gendergap. In fact, if that is his goal, he should re-evaluate his methodologies because the opposite is likely to result. He implied I should support the 99 Percent Declaration because of its feminist nature. Absolutely not. The article was a WP:POVFORK, [[WP:OR, has WP:V issues and he repeatedly stuck WP:COPYVIOS in it. I'm not going to WP:IAR to support the 99 Percent Declaration article because I'm female. I'm not going to WP:IAR to demand that all articles about roller derby articles be kept. They need to meet WP:GNG. By arguing WP:IAR, edit warring, trying to circumvent Wikipedia processes to get an article through, he makes it HARDER for women's sports to get fair treatment on Wikipedia. He keeps citing the gendergap list as the reason he is involved in it, but I made that post. I'll share the exact text of the e-mail I sent to the list on 11 October 2011:
End e-mail. That wasn't an invitation to save the article/recreate the article at all costs. --LauraHale (talk) 23:28, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
Tinychat?Do you think it would be helpful to try to communicate via Tinychat? Dualus (talk) 21:41, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
RollbackI have added you to the rollback usergroup. It might help out in fixing any vandalism that you run across (though make sure you read the policy on when it is and isn't acceptable to use it). Please let me know if I was being too forward in adding the usergroup without asking you first. Best, NW (Talk) 06:03, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
Essay invitationI am inviting you to help contribute to a new essay article, WP:PAROOAH Wikipedia:Pulling a rabbit out of a hat. This essay is about no synthesis. Please feel free to add contributions, edit the article for errors and discuss the [edit: changed to not sound like I mean the essay article as policy) Wikipedia policies and guidelines for Original Research, on the talk page and how we can improve my essay!--Amadscientist (talk) 11:39, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
ThanksThanks for your comments. I am back and will be around, although I'm reconsidering whether/how much to devote further time to these topics. It seems to be a lot of thankless hard work that mostly invites scorn from true believers, and carries the risk of incurring administrative sanctions, to boot. Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS) (talk) (contribs) 16:17, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
Thank youFor lining out the statement.--Amadscientist (talk) 00:48, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Bold editI looked at the statement and decided that a way to look at this is the statement is not changed to remove the contentious line and with that and some of the other prose in the line removed it says the same thing in a more neutral manner.--Amadscientist (talk) 03:34, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
You might wish to consider a self revet on Occupy Wall Street as by my count you have made four (1,2, 3 and 4) reverting edits in the space of 25 mins today, it would be a shame to sully your clean block log. Mtking (edits) 02:39, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Thank you, however it is obvious that this editor was mistaken about WP policies - they can be hard to understand for a newbie! However, I am disappointed that s/he did not make any further posts... Gandydancer (talk) 23:41, 25 November 2011 (UTC) Quick OWS talk page questionDid I correctly quote your proposed lede correctly? Something doesn't look right, can you check and make sure I didn't vandalize your post here? I'd appreciate a second set of eyes, since I tried making your lede look comparable in format to Amadscientist's lede. 완젬스 (talk) 15:55, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Batman editsMaybe he fired up an old computer in the basement.--Nowa (talk) 14:15, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Comments taken out of context, for dramatic effect
Sockpuppet investigationGandydancer: I opened a sockpuppet investigation of 24.161.123.221 It appeared to me as if the puppet master might be Dualus. Another possibility is User:The99declaration User '221's content and tone might match the The99declaration more closely than it does Dualus. What do you think?--Nowa (talk) 14:32, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
TargetingAre you sure you meant to revert to [4] and not [5]. You merely removed dispute tags. Hipocrite (talk) 00:31, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
An arbitration case regarding all articles related to the subject of Abortion has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:
In addition:
For the Arbitration Committee, Gandydancer advised8) Gandydancer is advised to subdue the tone of comments in heated discussions.
Gandydancer topic-banned8.1) Gandydancer is indefinitely topic-banned from abortion-related pages, broadly construed. This sanction may be appealed in one year.
Blocking 8) Blocking is a serious matter. Administrators should be exceedingly careful when blocking, and only do so when no other alternative would prove as effective. When placed, blocks should be intended to prevent disruption to the project and not simply to punish a user for their (mis)conduct. Passed 10 to 0, 02:11, 21 February 2012 (UTC) Civility blocks 11) The civility policy permits blocking for "major" incivility, which includes incivility rising to the level of disruption, personal attacks, harassment, or outing. Passed 10 to 0, 02:11, 21 February 2012 (UTC) Disruption 12) Editors may be blocked for disruptive behaviour, which can include repeated or extensive violations of the civility policy, refusal to work toward consensus, or repeatedly ignoring community feedback. Passed 10 to 0, 02:11, 21 February 2012 (UTC) Offensive commentary 14) Repeated use of sarcasm, wordplay formulated to mock another user, casting aspersions on an identifiable group, or use of language that can reasonably be anticipated to offend a significant segment of the community is disruptive, particularly when it distracts from the focus of an ongoing discussion on communal pages such as those in the Wikipedia namespace. Passed 10 to 0, 02:11, 21 February 2012 (UTC) Administrators reminded 6) Administrators are reminded that blocks should be applied only when no other solution would prove to be effective, or when previous attempts to resolve a situation (such as discussion, warnings, topic bans, or other restrictions) have proven to be ineffective. Passed 10 to 0, 02:11, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
All of the editors up for sanctions are from one side of this argument. The fact that you are 1 vote away from being topic-banned for being pro-life despite never being blocked ever in 5 years of service lets you know where we are. The fish rots from the head, as wikipedia has lost good editors we have lost proportionately more good admins. This is the chaff we're left to deal with, too dumb to know the case history but too proud not to rule on it. NewYorkBrad and JClemens are remnants of a bygone era - they're both pro-choice but they're professional. I don't think this would have happened even a year ago. If its any consolation I work in American politics and we're winning this in the real world, I think Roe v. Wade is years not decades away from repeal. It has been a honor to edit alongside you. Best wishes, -Hay
Arbitration motion regarding Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/AbortionResolved by motion at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification that: The Abortion case is supplemented as follows:
For the Arbitration Committee, Salvio Let's talk about it! 12:29, 6 December 2011 (UTC) Slacker uprisingYou can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 05:22, 7 December 2011 (UTC) Organic farmingPlease see WP:BURDEN, WP:EW, and WP:ES regarding your unexplained revert at Organic farming. --Ronz (talk) 18:07, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Reactions to the Occupy movementHello Gandydancer. A couple days ago, I proposed a split to the Occupy movement article, named "Reactions to the Occupy movement]]. I've created a userpage draft for the article. I've also contacted Rangoon11 about this proposal, as you two are major contributors to the Occupy movement article. Any suggestions to improve the article is greatly appreciated. Thank you. -- Luke (Talk) 22:36, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Disambiguation link notificationHi. In Pregnancy, you recently added links to the disambiguation pages Viable and Chlamydia (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject. It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 11:29, 17 December 2011 (UTC) OWS, in re "non-violent" or notHi. Your recent reply at Talk:Occupy_Wall_Street#generally_speaking.2C_OWS_is_non-violent is somewhat ambiguous at the beginning -- Are you agreeing with Racingstripes or me? I'm only asking because of the indenting, repeated post (initially) and close timestamps with his so there may have been an (ec) edit conflict. Respectfully, El duderino (talk) 07:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Request for your perspective on SOPAHi Gandydancer, there's currently an ongoing discussion about splitting the Stop Online Piracy Act page at Talk:Stop_Online_Piracy_Act#ONGOING_DISCUSSION_-_Splitting_the_Article. You've familiarized yourself with the entry before, and your insight and perspective on the matter would be appreciated. Hope to see you there, Sloggerbum (talk) 00:02, 23 December 2011 (UTC) OWS criticism section dispute resolutionI have requested dispute resolution here, and named you as one of the parties involved in the dispute. Be——Critical 04:44, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
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2011 Virginia earthquake GA NominationThe article 2011 Virginia earthquake has been listed as a Good Article Nominee. The review page of the article can be found here. --Clarkcj12 (talk) 00:00, 13 January 2012 (UTC) Peer Review Request Notice for 2011 Virginia earthquakeI sent you this message to let you know that the 2011 Virginia earthquake article is undergoing a Peer Review you may find the review here. Your input would greatly appreciated. --Clarkcj12 (talk) 20:58, 14 January 2012 (UTC) Disambiguation link notificationHi. When you recently edited 2011 Virginia earthquake, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Georgia (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject. It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 10:36, 15 January 2012 (UTC) OWS on DR/NHi Gandydancer, Informing you of this. Cheers. Be——Critical 03:12, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
Talk:Occupy_Wall_Street#.22Crime.22_and_.22Sexual_assult.22_sectionsRacingstripes (talk) 16:37, 26 January 2012 (UTC) Barnstar
Yet another barnstar
I am supposed to inform the author...But Dualus has been permanently blocked...so I am informing a handful of editors from that page that I have nominated 99% declaration for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/99 Percent Declaration (2nd nomination).--Amadscientist (talk) 11:00, 24 January 2012 (UTC) Russian CathedralHi Gandydancer, thanks for your edits at Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception of the Holy Virgin Mary. The article just failed GA due to prose issues, so any copyedits/improvements to prose would be greatly appreciated. There's a peer review open if you have any more general comments on the article. Thanks! Mark Arsten (talk) 22:14, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
BarnstarI wanted to say thank you for the barnstar. Somedifferentstuff (talk) 11:32, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
List of churches in Moscowhello, could you copyedit the lead if needed? I want to nominate it on FLC, and I think you are a competent copyeditor. Note that if you don't want to wait so long due to the large page size, you can post your suggested lead on its talk page. Thanks.--♫GoP♫TCN 19:04, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
Oh boy...Thanks for removing the redundant subsection. I returned the regular section and failed to see that it had been made into a subsection. Either way actually works and if you and others support the subsection instead of a full section, I can very much live with that. If you wish I can change that back.--Amadscientist (talk) 02:46, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
TalkbackMessage added 16:03, 5 February 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Ebikeguy (talk) 16:03, 5 February 2012 (UTC) A barnstar for you!
Colbert pageI worked on some edits for this page and see you are a major contributor. I did not put any of these on-line but I altered two others who work on page. Take what you want. Technically it was 527 organization and not 501 C... I added many cross links and see disclosure I wrote it and decide.
Americans for a Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow[2] (better known as the Colbert Super PAC) is a United States political action committee (PAC) established by Stephen Colbert, who portrays a conservative political pundit on the television series The Colbert Report. As a super PAC the organization can raise unlimited sums of money from corporations, unions and other groups, as well as wealthy individuals.[3][4] Speaking in character, Colbert said the money will be raised not only for political ads, but also "normal administrative expenses, including but not limited to, luxury hotel stays, private jet travel, and PAC mementos from Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus."[5] During the January 12, 2012 episode of The Colbert Report, Colbert announced his plans to form an exploratory committee to lay the groundwork for his possible candidacy for "President of the United States of South Carolina." In the process, he transferred control of the Super PAC to Jon Stewart, renaming it The Definitely Not Coordinating With Stephen Colbert Super PAC. On January 30, 2012, Stewart transferred the super PAC back to Colbert. In a January 31, 2012 Federal Election Commission filing, the Super PAC reported raising over $1.02 million.[6] During this announcement of his million dollar earnings on February 2, 2012, Colbert stated a call to the nation to Google Bomb Super PAC's definition to "A frothy mix of lube and campaign funding that is sometimes the byproduct of politics."[7]. The next day, DefineSuperPac.com[8] was registered and posted Stephen's new definition on the landing page. This all being a reference to Rick Santorum's Google Problems. FoundingColbert filed a request with the FEC asking for a media exemption for coverage of his then-prospective super PAC on a May 2011 episode of The Colbert Report.[9][10] The FEC voted 5-1 to grant The Colbert Report a limited media exemption during a June 2011 public meeting.[11] Following the hearing, Colbert formally filed paperwork for the creation of his super PAC with the FEC secretary.[12] Colbert Super PAC's treasurer, Salvatore Purpura, resigned on August 11, 2011 to work as campaign treasurer for Rick Perry. Shauna Polk took over treasurer duties for Colbert's PAC.[13] On September 29, Colbert consulted his lawyer and they set up his own 527 organization non-profit, similar to American Crossroads.[14] Colbert will serve as president, secretary, and treasurer of his new organization and its stated purpose will be to educate the public.[14] However, the organization may legally donate to his Super PAC, lobby for legislation, and participate in political campaigns and elections, as long as campaigning is not the organization's primary purpose. Colbert's organization may legally accept unlimited funds which may be donated by anonymous donors. Since the Federal Election Commission doesn't require full disclosure, Colbert likens his 527 organization to a "campaign finance glory hole": "You stick your money in the hole, the other person accepts your donation, and because it's happening anonymously, no one feels dirty!" Colbert is currently looking for a billionaire donor, or in the language of Colbert, a "sugar daddy."[15] Colbert initially named his Delaware corporation and 527 organization Anonymous Shell Corporation,[16] however, according to the Delaware Secretary of State's Office the official name was changed to "Colbert Super PAC SHH Institute" on the same day it was filed. According to experts, Colbert's actions are perfectly legal and shine a light on how the financing of elections has dramatically changed since the 2010 US Supreme Court ruling in Citizens United that corporations have free-speech rights to spend unlimited amounts of money in political advertising to elect or defeat candidates for office.[17] [14][16] FundsIn an October, 2011 email to his supporters Colbert explained how his 527 organization can be used to legally launder anonymous donations to his super PAC, "Americans for a Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow." Note: To anyone reading this and not realize that it is comedy and satire. The above paragraph, while documenting what the comedian stated in October 2011, is not factual. See page Political action committee for Federal cases that have been ruled subsequent to the show's airing. Further consult a tax professional before assuming deductions to 527 organizations are deductible in light of IRS examination of this topic.[18]
In a January 31, 2012 FEC filing, the Super PAC reported raising over $1.02 million. The filing also listed donors who gave more than $200 to the Super PAC, including Lieutenant Governor of California Gavin Newsom ($500), actor Bradley Whitford ($250), and actress Laura San Giacomo ($250). In a press release Colbert said, “We raised it on my show and used it to materially influence the elections — in full accordance with the law. It’s the way our founding fathers would have wanted it, if they had founded corporations instead of just a country.”[6] Ad campaignsOn August 10, the first ad by the Super PAC, titled "Episode IV: A New Hope," ran in Iowa, telling Iowans to write-in "Rick Parry" instead of Rick Perry at the Ames Straw Poll.[20][21][22] The following day the second ad ("Behind the Green Corn") was run.[23][24] Two Iowa television stations ran the ads; however, WOI-TV told Colbert that they would not run the ads because they considered them confusing to viewers.[25] In October 2011, the Super PAC released its third ad, titled "Foul Balls," concerning the 2011 NBA lockout.[5] It also released a fourth ad, also related to the NBA lockout, titled "Ball Gags." Run for "President of the United States of South Carolina"During the January 12, 2012 episode of The Colbert Report, Colbert announced his plans to run for "President of the United States of South Carolina." Colbert's lawyer, Trevor Potter, made it clear that it is illegal for Colbert to run for president while active in his Super PAC (though it would be perfectly legal for him to "volunteer" on its behalf). Colbert then signed over control of his Super PAC to Jon Stewart (President pro tempore), and announced that the organization would now be referred to as "The Definitely Not Coordinating With Stephen Colbert Super PAC."[26] Immediately after this legal block was removed, Colbert announced his decision to form an exploratory committee for his run for "President of the United States of South Carolina".[27] Super PACs are not allowed to coordinate directly with candidates or political parties since they are "independent", however a candidate may talk to his super PAC through the media and the super PAC can listen, just like everybody else.[28] In a press release, the new PAC president, Jon Stewart, denied that he and Colbert would secretly coordinate their efforts: "Stephen and I have in no way have worked out a series of Morse-code blinks to convey information with each other on our respective shows."[29] During the run-up to the South Carolina primary, the super PAC released an "over the top negative ad" attacking Mitt Romney[6] ("If Mitt Romney really believes 'corporations are people, my friend' then Mitt Romney is a serial killer")[30] and another which first attacked Stephen Colbert and then attacked the Super PAC itself. Both urged South Carolinians to vote for Herman Cain (a former candidate who had suspended his campaign but whose name still appeared on the primary ballot), whom Colbert was using as a proxy as it was too late to get on the ballot himself.[31] A January, 19 poll showed that if Colbert were to run for "president of the United States of South Carolina," 18% said they were at least "kinda somewhat likely" to cast their ballot for Colbert, including 4% who were very likely, 7% who were somewhat likely, and 7% who were "kinda somewhat likely." However, 13% reported they were not too likely, 56% say they were not likely at all, 8% didn't know enough about him, and 4% a were unsure. Poll results showed that 52% of the potential Republican primary electorate in South Carolina were aware that Stephen Colbert was exploring a potential candidacy for president of the United States of South Carolina, while 48% were unaware or unsure. 21% of the potential Republican primary electorate reported they would be more likely to vote for former candidate Herman Cain if that vote served as encouragement for Colbert, while 62% would be less likely to cast their ballot for Cain, and 9% were unsure.[32] On January 21, the "Cain/Colbert" combo received over 6,000 votes, a fifth-place finish.[33] References
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A brownie for you!
Hi there and thanks for the brownie! But when you say you included me as an example in your post, I have no idea what you're talking about. As for what's going on on Facebook, I've never looked at the OWS page. When you say there will be a "leadership change", are you talking about the 99% Declaration people? Best, Gandy dancer Gandydancer (talk) 13:01, 11 February 2012 (UTC) Oh! I went to one of the Facebook pages and found this:
He defends tax evaders, mafia crooks and child pornographers for a living. He went down to OWS and volunteered to do represent some arrested kids, free of charge. They gave him their ideas, which he made into the first draft of the 99% declaration, including his 6 point plan. No clue what happened to them. They are no longer mentioned. Michael began recruiting people to help him fulfill his plan, which includes replacing everyone in congress if the demands of our declaration are not fulfilled. Michael himself ran (very) unsuccessfully in congress. He wants to be in congress. Michael began bumping heads with people who volunteered to help him. First OWS. He said HORRIBLE things, which still make their way around the web about OWS.
Sweet!
He yelled at her and called her horrible names. For some reason, she sent the money anyway, and he supposedly stepped down.
THEN things turned ugly. I guess he expected to be allowed to continue to influence the group. When that didn't happen, he decided to rival the group. Now there are 2 groups of people calling themselves the 99% declaration, and the only people left who are paying much attention are curious folks like you, folks like me who are interested in seeing if the situation can be salvaged (although at this point... I'm thinking this is one that Fox News is gonna have a field day with instead) and those that are grabbing at the power over... um... some facebook friends who are no longer in participation, and the 25K or so left in the accounts currently. And this:
That elite oligarchy is the inner circle which are the most amazing, selfless people I've ever met. I have pretty strong views on the 99% declaration, and you've been silent on that page. Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts? 완젬스 (talk) 13:35, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
RepliedYou can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Crime/Security Concerns/SecurityI've brought the discussion back here again.Racingstripes (talk) 04:43, 15 February 2012 (UTC) You deserve a lot of creditYou keep cool, civil and stay within guidelines. You don't make personal attacks and you are able to disagree respectfully and not make a battle out of every issue. You are able to get your point across (to me anyway) without much hoopla and in doing so make it much easier to look "within" for mistakes or misinterpretations were others create an atmosphere that is agressive, hateful and ignorant of facts and policies. You are a good editor and do NOT let anyone tell you differently. No one has to agree to get along, as getting along takes more effort than simply agreeing with each other. The real test is when we disagree and how we overcome those disputes. Please feel free to post on my talk page. Of all the editors I have encountered on wikipedia in my time here...you may not be the best editor...but you are the best person I have encountered. You show a desire to learn from mistakes and when you honestly don't understand something...you admit it. That is SO rare at Wikipedia these days! Also....I think wikipedia needs more female editors and I personally think you are one of the best women I have encountered here. I wish more women would edit Wikipedia.--Amadscientist (talk) 05:30, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
CopyrightThe Greaber information you added was a violation of copyright policy. Please be careful when "paraphrasing" to closely, as it could create problems for the article. I hope this doesn't make you mad at me.--Amadscientist (talk) 23:43, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
No information "unsourced"I don't know what you mean by that. But if you are asking what the text was and how it was a violation I can explain that.--Amadscientist (talk) 03:03, 18 February 2012 (UTC) The Wikipedia article:
The source:[6]
I am sorry that this has effected you so badly or made you feel like you are being attacked. You are not. If you remember I had just gone through the section to copy edit and found this from another editor and went out of my way to make it work. So I was keenly aware of the text. I make no judgement of you over this, I ask that you not judge me harshly as well.--Amadscientist (talk) 03:27, 18 February 2012 (UTC) Yes, you are correct...I made a mistake on the issue of "after talking to adbusters". It was in the source and I sincerly apologize for the mistake. If things were going just a tad better on the talkpage it might have been ironed out quicker, but I have been trying to keep up with the wall of text being thrown up. I also mentioned this on the talkpage in case you didn't see it there.--Amadscientist (talk) 04:45, 18 February 2012 (UTC) You are obviously pissed off...So I will back away slowly and not bother you further...--Amadscientist (talk) 06:45, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Thank you so much :D
Why didn't I think of that, seriously? Anyways, I think that compromise is fine. I see that it has stuck for the last two days, and I'm really glad we can move on. If I ever get disagreeable, please smack me with a Trout because I try not to get involved into long arguments or ani or dn or rfc with anyone. I hope this compromise can stay in place, and I wanted to thank you for suggesting that section title which makes everyone happy. I just got back into the thick of things, and I'm so glad the problem disappeared while I was gone. Now if we can only get amad & centrify to hold hands and sing Kumbaya, lol. 완젬스 (talk) 15:51, 18 February 2012 (UTC) Could you understand?That is if you didn't already know. Am I going crazy here or is this not an improvement? Be——Critical 02:01, 19 February 2012 (UTC) Recommended readingGandydancer, this is my formal request that you observe Wikipedia's talk page guidelines, including all of the basic talk page how-to's and good practices as well as (or, perhaps,especially) behavior that is unacceptable. The fact that some people regularly violate some policies is no justification to continue doing so at will. This notification on your talk page is required before I can take the next step in Dispute Resolution, which I hope to avoid. The guidelines are reasonably explicit; if you disagree with them I encourage you to work to change them. Until that happens, I expect you to abide by them on pages where our editorial paths cross. Thank you. USEPA James (talk) 17:08, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
This is just a friendly (please take it that way) suggestion not to continue to restore the "policy concerns" section at Talk:Clothianidin. Though I don't see it as technically a violation of any Wikipedia policy (such as WP:OUTING), if you have specific concerns about USEPAJames' employment, it is probably best to deal with it somewhere else other than at an article talk page, such as WP:COIN. -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:08, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
ImidaclopridTo Gandydancer Please tell me your expertise on Imidacloprid. I am about to report you as a fraud and an incompetent. I have worked with this compound for 16 years. I have read every study and report. Your biased and selective "facts" are surprisingly inaccurate. For instance you say Imidacloprid is stable in water. It is not. This is just one example. This compound does not leach and is much safer for the environment than most compounds you use in your daily life including toothpaste. I use it to save trees, 1000's of them. And it is far safer then what we used before Imidacloprid. I will report you and make a case that will expose your hearsay knowledge and bias and then request you be banned from this. I am in the process of showing others who like me, have a realistic point of view and a balanced agenda. Thus you will start seeing others begin to post on this. If you insist on your non facts and continue I will proceed with my defense of this compound and will go to the wiki editors.
February 2012 {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Salvio Let's talk about it! 19:38, 22 February 2012 (UTC) Gandydancer (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: This editor has added this same edit numerous times and has yet to use the talk page. He has left disruptive notes on my talk page three times. I left a note on the talk page each time I reverted his/her edits. I got mixed up on the number of times I did a revert, thinking that I had only done three in the last 24 hours. I'd appreciate it if you would unblock me. Thanks. Gandydancer (talk) 20:01, 22 February 2012 (UTC) Decline reason: You are blocked for edit warring, not for a WP:3RR violation. --jpgordon::==( o ) 21:07, 22 February 2012 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. . Gandydancer (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: I've never been blocked before so perhaps I do not understand policy guidelines regarding edit warring. If you review the article you will note that Tcprocessor (and probably several socks) have been adding unsourced copy and deleting sourced copy in large edit changes for several days, leaving summaries such as "Why so interested in lying about this product and not others? Competitive product? Send me an email if you want to talk.", but never once using the talk page for discussion. On the other hand, he/she has contacted me on my talk page making comments such as "I will report you and make a case that will expose your hearsay knowledge and bias and then request you be banned from this. I am in the process of showing others who like me, have a realistic point of view and a balanced agenda. Thus you will start seeing others begin to post on this. If you insist on your non facts and continue I will proceed with my defense of this compound and will go to the wiki editors." I left an edit on the talk page each time I reverted his/her edits and I replied in a civil manner on my talk page. It might also be a good idea to review this editors edits, which have largely been an attempt to limit or delete any hazards of this insecticide that he/she says he/she has been using in his employment for the last 15 years. And lastly, it really does surprise me to find that I have been blocked for 48 hours whille Tcprocessor was only blocked for 24 hours. Gandydancer (talk) 00:54, 23 February 2012 (UTC) Decline reason: You were clearly edit warring, and while I do have sympathy with you, as you were working against a disruptive editor, edit warring is unacceptable, and a block is justified. However, I shall reduce the block to 24 hours from the time you were blocked, because I do not accept the argument that you were abusing rollback as well as edit warring. Contrary to a surprisingly widespread belief, rollback is not restricted to reverting vandalism, but is also acceptable in several other situations, and in my opinion this case is use "To revert widespread edits (by a misguided editor ...) which are judged to be unhelpful to the encyclopedia, provided that an explanation is supplied in an appropriate location, such as at the relevant talk page". (Quoted fromWikipedia:Rollback feature#When to use rollback.) JamesBWatson (talk) 09:51, 23 February 2012 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Abortion article titles notificationHey Gandydancer. This is just a notification that a binding, structured community discussion has been opened by myself and Steven Zhang on behalf of the Arbitration Committee. As you were named as a involved party in the Abortion case, you may already know that remedy 5.1 called for a "systematic discussion and voting on article names". This remedy is now being fulfilled with this discussion. If you would like to participate, the discussion is taking place at WP:RFC/AAT. All the best, Whenaxis talk · contribs | DR goes to Wikimania! 23:06, 22 February 2012 (UTC) Wikipedia:WikiProject Occupy movementWikipedia:WikiProject Occupy movement
As I have commited informally to keeping my distance from Becritical and have requested he stay off my page and respect the same I hope you can take a moment to inform him as well so he may not be excluded should he wish to participate. I am only coordinating the project, I do not run it (as no single editor will) and don't want him to feel this is something I have control over. This project is to centralize discussion and collaborate on tasks.--Amadscientist (talk) 00:39, 25 February 2012 (UTC) HiI mention you in passing here, do please come along and have a say. Penyulap talk 09:18, 4 March 2012 (UTC) Merge discussion for Occupy Wall Street
Mediation Cabal: Request for participation Dear Gandydancer: Hello. This is just to let you know that you've been mentioned in the following request at the Mediation Cabal, which is a Wikipedia dispute resolution initiative that resolves disputes by informal mediation. The request can be found at Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/16 March 2012/Occupy Wall Street. Just so you know, it is entirely your choice whether or not you participate. If you wish to do so, and we'll see what we can do about getting this sorted out. At MedCab we aim to help all involved parties reach a solution and hope you will join in this effort. If you have any questions relating to this or any other issue needing mediation, you can ask on the case talk page, the MedCab talk page, or you can ask the mediator, Whenaxis, at their talk page. MedcabBot (talk) 01:16, 16 March 2012 (UTC) DeclineGandy, I've stayed out of these discussions because of their contentiousness, and because I am not familiar at all with the issues, I'd rather stay removed. However, I see no reason to reject the mediation attempt and want to wish you fair sailing. The Artist AKA Mr Anonymous (talk) 01:27, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Colony Collapse versus pesticide effectsHi. Simply put, the paper from Purdue does not mention Colony Collapse Disorder, and therefore pretty obviously does not belong in this article. There are literally hundreds of papers published every year on pesticide effects on different insects, including bees, and they are not relevant to this WP article unless they reference CCD specifically, like the Italian clothianidin study did. If you want to create a separate WP article for discussion of the effects of Clothianidin on bees, that might be a good option for the Purdue study, but it still doesn't belong on the CCD page. The authorities agree that CCD is a disease with causative pathogens, and communicable, and while pesticides can influence the effect of those pathogens, the two phenomena (pesticide toxicity and CCD) are not *synonymous*, and trying to combine the two topics on a single WP article is a bad idea. The CCD article should focus specifically on literature that discusses CCD, including links between CCD and pesticides, but not literature that refers to pesticide toxicity by itself. I don't really care for the present pesticide toxicity to bees article, but - realistically - that is the most appropriate place for things like the Purdue study; that, or a new page along those lines (e.g., the Imidacloprid effects on bees, which I think is too narrowly-focused). Sincerely, Dyanega (talk) 18:34, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
MaroonsI slept over your comments on the talk of Great Dismal Swamp maroons. (I am German and have a hard time following lengthy discussions, please understand.) I had one more idea presented there. But the article talk should only contain factual discussion, not personal, so I come here as well.
The thing is Gerda, I wouldn't even dream of offering my preference since I know nothing about that subject. On the other hand, in my opinion you apparently know very little about the process whereby escaped slaves, sometimes termed maroons, set up colonies in remote regions to avoid capture and formed societies that lasted for hundreds of years, and yet you consider yourself an expert. American slaves, removed from their African homelands, were stripped of their identity by owners who did not allow their captives to speak in their own language, practice their own religion or practice their own arts such as playing their own music. The slaves were given a new ethnicity and in English the term was negro. If a slave escaped, the name maroon was sometimes used. Finally, after many, many years, in my lifetime as a matter of fact, the word "negro" was finally given a capitol N. But if a "negro" escaped many years ago and found freedom and established a new "American-African" identity, according to you, who wants to change all the Maroon articles to small M's, he/she remains merely an escaped slave of his/her American owner. As I said in the article, I consider this sort of thinking blatant racism. Gandydancer (talk) 08:46, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Well...I did what I could. If their sources mostly have it in lower case, I don't know what else to argue except that WP should be consistent... Sry... Be——Critical 20:52, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Personal attacksTalk pages are where we talk about the article. User Talk pages are the better place for personal issues. If I were to accuse an editor of bad faith and bad behavior, I would address it on their talk page, and then go the ANI if it was that big a deal. Comity is better preserved this way. As it is, I don't know what you think of the Background section, but I am interested to find out, on the appropriate talk page. The Artist AKA Mr Anonymous (talk) 01:50, 21 March 2012 (UTC) Gandy, continuing from Scartol's talk page: please, if you have any input regarding the text of this article, go ahead and give it. At this point, it needs (I feel) some extra eyes to improve its prose. The more the better, especially here in good ole WP. So yes, feel free to copyedit and suggest to your heart's content! I will muchly appreciate it. Thanks. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 20:04, 22 March 2012 (UTC) Swing votes on merging the "low hanging fruit" of occupy articlesHello, after I invested way too disproportionate amount of time thinking I was cleaning up some of the various occupy articles, I found that I can't predict who will object or support the articles I selected as candidates for merging into the parent article Occupy movement in the United States (which I think is no judgment about the relative value of each city's movement efforts) and rather than blindly choose proposals, I sought advice from the other swing vote here. As part of my request, I humbly ask to get your advice about 1 more "easy merge" suggestion and then I will forever call an ends to this cleanup mission. It was way harder than I envisioned, but before I go, I would like your input about SilverScreen's proposal, and additionally I would like 1 "easy merge" candidate proposal that you pick out as unobjectionable from the "easy list" here. Not only will it help me save face, it will at least help me see that my "failed" effort had at least a handful (4 maybe 5) partial successes. As someone who knows the ups and downs of Wikipedia, I graciously seek your support. I just want out of my endeavor I brought myself into; and, going out I hopefully seek two recommendations from Silverscreen and one (maybe two؟) recommendations from yours truly. All I ever wanted was to gainfully assist in "cleaning up" some of the OWS spillover & how I underestimated that it was more than a spillover--it was the Deepwater Horizon oil spill and was bigger and more entrenched than I ever imagined. I initially thought I could bring the community to condense 49 separate occupy cityxyz down to 10 or 15. I underestimated how difficult it was to reduce this number by any practical significance; however, with your blessing, maybe you can endorse the impartial recommendations of Silverscreen and, in turn, suggest 1 "easy merge" proposal in kindness to your fellow struggling Wikipedian. I just want to make a difference; and, in this case it was "cleaning up" an uninhibited creation process whereby everyone is freely allowed to create, edit, and each defend their own Orwellian amalgamation. I hope you under the improbability I am up against, and will lend me your swing vote to better advance my escape hatch from this time-intensive crusade. Thanks, 완젬스 (talk) 06:35, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Why so obsessed with this?I don't think it's good at all. Remember we have a timeline/chronology section, did you even read how bad it looks as an orphan to the bottom of the encampment section? Are you even aware of how unintelligent an edit looks when it states "On March 17th, some protesters attempted to do something, but oh well, they tried, and there is a online news article about it, so therefore it is page 1 headlines above-the-fold" I mean seriously? Where is your thinking cap? (and if you want to add it back, please just think about it for 180 seconds and ask what attempted relevance it has to the overall movement) I don't know what's the big deal of "an attempt on March 17th" unless you were there or had friends in it who were arrested. Your edits lately have been unpredictable and I don't know if you have an idea of the big picture, or just think that "everything fits" if it is on a headline somewhere. Maybe the sentiment has changed since February, so I just hope April can be a more constructive month for the occupy article. Hoping you understand, 완젬스 (talk) 22:04, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
3rr Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Please be advised, I moved your sentence over to the timeline article here. Thanks, 완젬스 (talk) 23:06, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
I just want redemption and to be thought of as the "party guy" like I was at the end of 2011 when we rallied against Dualus and overthrew a Lessig-spamming sycophant. I like your independence (you turned on Amadscientist when he was having a manic episode about reverting your edits senselessly; and, I like how you argue with passion which is great because it shows you got passion. I've struggled with freelance work life ever since I quit my corporate gig of $40,000/year with no benefits, and I have to work 10x harder just to keep a steady stream of referrals, which means I satisfactorily use wikipedia & facebook (on OWS) to keep myself busy & full of energy, passion, and motivation. I just got finished with a decent gig, and now I want an uncontroversial path where I can work on Wikipedia and massively improve the coverage that relates to OWS. Since you can give me unbiased, outside perspective--can you briefly answer the same 3 questions I asked BeCritical here which are:
With all that said, I'm struggling to find my place here. I'm a passionate Wikipedia editor who has tremendous motivation and (as a Korean) these positive traits have elevated my position through facebook within the OWS movement. (as an aside, I commented on who the two multi-multi-millionare donors were which we lost on Feb 11th on your talk page--they are [drumroll...] Ben Cohen & Jerry Greenfield) which hopefully you'll agree fit the narrative I've been desperately advocating about the movement. I'm all for Wikipedia, and I'm all for OWS. I just want other editors' feedback about how to maximize the effectiveness of my passion with candid, sincere advice which will re-light my torch so that I can once again edit freely under the presumed guidance of well respected, well established editors such as yourself. Thanks in advance, 완젬스 (talk) 11:56, 4 April 2012 (UTC) You have been indefinitely blocked for breaking 3RR =OYes, I also prefer African American music rather than White music. Little Richard is one of my favourites in R&R, and I also like Fats Domino, but I only listened to his debut album. Domino's "Troubles of My Own" is one of the most kick-ass songs I have ever heard in my life (just listen to that bombastic backbeat :P), and I should probably also listen to his next albums. I never heard of gandy dancing (I thought it was just a wordplay). Haha, I did not know that American yodeling was influenced by African Americans, something else that I learned. =) I sadly never attended any live shows, but I can imagine the atmosphere. I think Redding is the best ever singer, at least here on earth. If Zelma would just agree to publish his photos, I would replace the current infobox pic with this iconic picture (Imagine it appears on the mainpage; it might break the record for the most views! :)) Or how about this? LOL. Also not bad. Haha, you know what? I will ask the painter to publish it in CC-BY and will replace that pic! :)GoPTCN 11:06, 31 March 2012 (UTC) Greetings to all my Wikipedia friends, but...I am in Rochester, MN at the Mayo Clinic with my sis Judy. She is getting her second stem cell replacement for multiple myeloma and I will be with her as her care-giver. It will take 6 to 8 weeks. It is fun, boring, tireing, and sometimes stressful. She has one of the top MM experts in the world as her doc, so that part is fun and interesting. ;) I still follow what's going on here, but will have less input. My best to all, Gandy Gandydancer (talk) 22:04, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Quiet sidebar about owsI've felt "lost" by not participating on Wikipedia for a while in my full metal jacket, so I hope you'll recover well in your free time while not worrying too much about me or the various articles which give the next guy stress. I just want to remind you to meditate and to internalize the world-class treatment you are receiving by the Mayo Clinic. Life is so precious and nobody can say definitively what treatments will work and which will not (as far as blood leukemia & lymphoma are concerned.) Make sure your family knows how special you feel to them, and them to you. In life, you never just know when you have the opportunity to say something important that will resonate profoundly. I wish you and Judy the most epic comeback which is possible given your specific prognosis. May you and Judy's life be blessed, cared for, and in our prayers, 완젬스 (talk) 02:00, 14 April 2012 (UTC) GMO Crops pageHi Gandy, I am the advisor of the student on the GMO Crops page. In reviewing my talk page, and email, I do not see any attempt to contact me. I certainly do appreciate any constructive help you have provided to my students. The GMO crop page definitely needs some careful editing and additions. Waterbug42 (talk) 15:35, 23 April 2012 (UTC) A kitten for you!_by_Ron.jpg) This kitten wants you to stay. I am trying to get Andy back; we desperately need people like him. Arcandam (talk) 08:30, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
OWS and the 99% DeclarationA few editors, one of whom was actually present for a 99% Declaration AFD, are now arguing that the 99% Declaration and group should be given significant coverage (including, I believe, a listing of their demands) at the OWS article. This would seem to violate a wide prior consensus that the 99% Declaration was of somewhat questionable notability, but that due to its rejection by OWS proper, there should be a separate article instead of a merge. Ironically, the argument seems to be that since the 99% Declaration article survived two AFDs, it is therefore obviously notable, and if it's notable it should therefore also be given significant discussion at OWS. My feeling is that, in addition to being inconsistent with the prior consensus, a substantial discussion of the 99% Declaration at the OWS article would greatly exaggerate the notability of the document (which seems to be very tenuous as reflected by the AFD dicussions), while also exaggerating its connection with OWS, thereby letting the 99% Declaration "ride the coattails" of OWS -- a clear undue weight violation. I fondly recall your previous contributions and would be grateful for any insights you could bring to the discussion. Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS) (talk) (contribs) 12:48, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Imidacloprid ledeHi Gandy, I just saw your addition of CCD to the imidacloprid lede. I agree with your addition of a noteworthy aspect of the chemical, but given the tense history of this topic, I am concerned that some might consider two sentences about CCD in the lede to be undue weight. I would suggest a shorter, more general mention, something like "There are growing concerns about harm to non-target insects including bees and other pollinators." Please let me know what you think. – monolemma t – 05:32, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. --Edmonton7838 (talk) 21:52, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
...Oh, I see you have ignored my advice already... Gandydancer (talk) 22:25, 30 May 2012 (UTC) QuotedHi, GD. Thought it would be polite to let you know that I quoted you at ANI (link/snapshot) about the ALEC talk page. You have mail, btw, about a likely sock at a different article. Best, --OhioStandard (talk) 17:33, 31 May 2012 (UTC) this talk page temporarily watchlisted Anarchism, David Graber, and OWSGandy, I wonder if you have any thoughts on this recent edit I made, which I have explained on the OWS talk page here. I don't think the edit itself is subject to challenge (the source plainly does not support the article text as it was written). However, I am interested to hear your thoughts on what I said at Talk; and in particular if you disagree with my rationale or anything I've said, please don't hesitate to say so. Cheers! Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS) (talk) (contribs) 16:38, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
And, it's good to know you continue to watch the page. Disclosure: I use you as a Wikipedia barometer and often finding myself asking "What Would Gandy Do?". I've never had a better experience collaborating with an editor whom I often disagree with (although admittedly we don't disagree that often). This is why I seek your approval even when I sense that we may be in disagreement ;) Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS) (talk) (contribs) 18:37, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Mediation request re: "Formation of the New York General Assembly"Gandy, regarding our article prose purporting to tell readers how the NYCGA was formed (notwithstanding the lack of any source telling us how it was formed), unfortunately I remain convinced that WP:V is being ignored in a destructive and unacceptable manner. I have requested mediation here. The request is still pending and I don't believe any discussion can yet take place, but I wanted to at least notify you of the request. Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS) (talk) (contribs) 16:54, 4 June 2012 (UTC) Elizabeth Warren, again, 05 June 2012Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. You can review all three of your edit war reverts here: (1) Revert 1, (2) Revert 2, (3) Revert 3, and (4) Revert 4.--Edmonton7838 (talk) 18:02, 5 June 2012 (UTC) 3RRI have reported you to 3RR. You can review it here: here or here — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edmonton7838 (talk • contribs) 20:06, 5 June 2012 (UTC) BP lede/articleHi Gandy, Please feel free to jump into the discussion at Dispute Resolution noticeboard. You've raised a good point about the lede. Your input would be truly appreciated as we rewrite the intro; an extra set of eyes would help us stay on track. As there is an ongoing debate, I'll stay active daily, but cannot continue to spend multiple hours a day on this matter as I have been.petrarchan47Tc 06:20, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi again, Given that there are only 4 paragraphs in the BP lede, how would you feel about one of them being dedicated to BP's environmental and political 'issues', including a good mention of the Gulf spill as opposed to having the whole para dedicated to the spill? I responded to your idea at DR but didn't expand much on it so I thought to stop by here again. petrarchan47Tc 00:50, 15 June 2012 (UTC) Hi there Gandy, just wanted to update you. I am doing some research right now getting ready to make a proposal for the third paragraph. Here and here are 2 of the articles I am looking at. I think if you looked at the BP edit history, you might find this interesting. It shows how the intro looked before the greenwashing. And here is the beginning of the series of edits which added the spin to the intro, all by the same editor I brought to Dispute Resolution, who was most recently deleting information from the article in the same biased manner as these edits. Do you know how Wikipedia deals with violations such as these? It seems unfair for editors to have to deal with this in the future. petrarchan47Tc 23:51, 20 June 2012 (UTC)petrarchan47Tc 03:30, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
OK, Gandy, I posted my suggestion for the controversy section of the BP Lede at the DRN. petrarchan47Tc 01:15, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
What would you think of taking this to the Administrators Noticeboard? I feel sure the right move would happen if some Admin were able to see this and give input.petrarchan47Tc 07:25, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Sorry I left ya hanging...I never got back to getting those references together for the discussionat OWS. Real life has found its way back in to my life and I have been working on several Paintings the I began many years ago. One almost 25 years ago. In short...I'm using the other side of my brain at the moment.--Amadscientist (talk) 06:38, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Connolley, since you seem to understand...I refr you to User:William M. Connolley/For me/The naming of cats William M. Connolley (talk) 07:34, 4 July 2012 (UTC) Deleting graphs from MilkIn your edit summary, you stated that "this graph is WAY off" (there are actually two; I assume you have issues with both) as your reason for deleting it. I checked the date on which the graphs were added and found them to be fairly recent images (just a few months ago), and they seem to be from reputable sources, so I don't think they were out of date or grossly inaccurate, as your edit summary seems to imply. Can you explain what is wrong with the graphs? If not, I don't see any reason to delete them. dalahäst (let's talk!) 09:19, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Goldman Sachs Group Inc. says this may be the first time in five years that New Zealand, the world’s biggest dairy exporter, produces less milk, at a time when surging corn prices are raising costs for U.S. farmers. Dated July, 2012. [8] Gandydancer (talk) 21:44, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
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