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User talk:Futurebird/Archive 10African American culture GA Sweeps Review: On HoldAs part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria and I'm specifically going over all of the "Culture and Society" articles. I have reviewed African American culture and believe the article currently meets the majority of the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed, and I'll leave the article on hold for seven days for them to be fixed. I have left this message on your talk page since you have significantly edited the article (based on using this article history tool). Please consider helping address the several points that I listed on the talk page of the article, which shouldn't take too long to fix with the assistance of multiple editors. I have also left messages on the talk pages for other editors and related WikiProjects to spread the workload around some. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 07:57, 23 June 2008 (UTC) Feminism Task ForceHello Futurebird! :) Just wanted to welcome you to the Feminism Task Force. Thanks for joining and glad you found it! Happy editing! --Grrrlriot (talk) 23:53, 5 July 2008 (UTC) R&IWelcome back. We missed you! Slrubenstein | Talk 00:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC) Hi Futurebird. I have actually seriously curtailed my activity here and I need to for many reasons, one being that I have real work to do. I hope your defense went well and other aspects of your life are going well. I never told you how much I love your user page and that itself I think is a serious contribution to Wikipedia. As far as R&I is concerned, I am sorry to say you will never return to it to find it magically fixed. I know a long time ago I caused you grief in my attempts to mediate a dispute - for what it is worth, my efforts were well-intentioned and I still believe necessary, but I do regret the grief. There are some editors with whom I disagree, but i know any stable version of R&I will have to be acceptable to them (currently I think this is true of Legalleft); in the meantime, the challenge is not to alienate but on the contrary to attract a diverse group fo editrs with other views. I cannot blame you if you stay away but I hope you do not. In March I made my own proposal towards resolving problems. It never went anywhere but you can find it here ... if you think it has merit there is no reason you cannot resucitate it, it did have several supporters. Finally, I want to tell you that I believe serious improvement of the article was stalled during the past year because of the disruptive edits of one troll. That person has now been blocked from Wikipedia. I you have not been following things and care to know the basics you can trace them here under "Jagz attracts attention." My own actions in this have been criticized very heavily by one other user here. Either this thread is indicative of a deeper, profound problem at Wikipedia (which ought to concern you) OR I am (1) wrong and (2) defensive. I bring up this and the previous paragraph because if you become active at R&I again you may want to know the recent history. Then again, you may be better off not knowing. I am the last one here to tell you our business. Still, I am glad to see you back, appreciate your message on my page, and hope to see more of you around, Slrubenstein | Talk 13:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
No, you and I just disagree and you will have to accept that we disagree. Slrubenstein | Talk 15:42, 7 July 2008 (UTC) Planned shrinkage, Benign neglect and Broken WindowsThanks for your kind compliments, Futurebird. I was thinking that, in some ways, Broken Windows is the counter-response to Planned Shrinkage and Benign neglect, substituting intensive attention to detail for the calculated or resigned abandonment of services. As with charter schools and benign neglect, Broken Windows has both a liberal, neo-liberal or progressive/centrist version and a conservative, neo-conservative or authoritarian version. (Never to discount, of course, plausible demagogy, political spin, or the search for a magic bullet.) Daniel Patrick Moynihan and James Q. Wilson were both associated with such early neo-conservative forums as The Public Interest (although that didn't stop them, as I recall, from also contributing to liberal journals like Trans/action). I don't know enough about Roger Starr, although his City Journal pieces aren't all right-wing (for example a rather favorable memoir of the left-wing New York tabloid, P.M.). Anyway, maybe there's a way of referring to Broken Windows in the entries for Planned Shrinkage or Benign neglect as a sequel or reaction (what comes next). I could do that myself, in theory, but I try to avoid pontificating too much in Wikipedia about things I haven't read or studied. Shakescene (talk) 07:05, 7 July 2008 (UTC) Welcome back!Hey, good to hear from you! Working on Wikipedia has been interesting - taken me in all sorts of new directions. After recently visiting friends in MO and seeing the nearby Cahokia Mounds in IL, archaeology has engaged my interest, so I've been reading up on the Mounds - have since learned there is Angel Mound near Evansville, IN, where I was born and lived for a few years before my family moved east. Time to travel.--Parkwells (talk) 13:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you move Wikipedia:2008 main page redesign proposal/Futurebird/sister to a sub-page of your user page per this. EE 21:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
re:okElectrical Experiment (talk) 04:29, 8 July 2008 (UTC) re: your messageThanks for the barnstar and kind words. I wasn't online last week, so I just got your message last night. I'm going to join the project (I guess I should have done that a while back) and if you ever want to team-up on an article, let me know. I write alot of articles dealing with NRHPs and Mt. Zion Cemetery (1 & 2) and Mt. Zion United Methodist Church (1) are next on my list (I'm surprised the latter doesn't already have an article considering it's the oldest African-American church in D.C.) Anyway, I'm thinking about writing an article about Georgetown's black history. While researching for Old Stone House (Washington, D.C.), the National Park Service employees at the house gave me a brief history of the neighborhood (I'm going to look for this book at Barnes&Noble) and they talked alot about Herring Hill. I think it would be an interesting article and GA material if enough sources are found. Let me know if you might want to help with the article's development. If not, no biggie. :-) Cheers. APK like a lollipop 05:13, 9 July 2008 (UTC) Main page redesign discussionHi futurebird, I thought some of the points you made on the Main Page Redesign discussiopn were really interesting, and wondered if you could give a little feedback on my current submission? Many thanks - My submission » Pretzelschatters 15:30, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Whole pictureI appreciate your concern regarding the short term block of Sindihan. I however do ask that you try to make sure you understand the whole picture before passing judgement. This is a fairly complex situation that has had the review of several editors who are all in agreeance. And despite sindihans claims that we are all DAB's friends, it is nothing of the sort (and I have even had negative interactions with him.) The block was not for the 3RR report, the block was for beating the deadhorse after the 3RR report and block were reversed. His pattern of behavior indicates that his actions were against DAB, instead of for protection of the article. (Filing the 3RR report, filing an AN report that was closed as admin shoopping then again filing another AN report). This is trolling behavior, and this is why he was blocked, not for the 3RR report. Chrislk02 Chris Kreider 15:35, 9 July 2008 (UTC) Main Page ProposalOn July 6th you had stated your interest for a minimal Main Page. I was hoping you could take a look at my proposal - granted its more streamlined than minimal but I believe that consensus will never be reached about removing features.--88wolfmaster (talk) 20:33, 10 July 2008 (UTC) Thank you... for your kind words. I can't imagine what I ever did to attract your notice, but if I do come back, it will be because of considerate people such as yourself. Best regards and -- at the risk of being presumptive, based on your User boxes -- Go Obama! cheers, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:21, 13 July 2008 (UTC) Second Annual WikiNYC PicnicGreetings! You are invited to attend the second annual New York picnic on August 24! This year, it will be taking place in the Long Meadow of Prospect Park in Brooklyn. If you plan on coming, please sign up and be sure to bring something! Please be sure to come! Main page redesignHello, Futurebird! Wikipedia:2008 main page redesign proposal was recently cleared of all design entries. You may want to re-enter your design(s), based on the details here. (You can see the old list of designs here). NOTE: A survey was conducted on what users wanted to see in the new main page, you can see the results here. NickPenguin(contribs) 02:15, 29 August 2008 (UTC) Wikis Take Manhattan
WHAT Wikis Take Manhattan is a scavenger hunt and free content photography contest aimed at illustrating Wikipedia and StreetsWiki articles covering sites and street features in Manhattan and across the five boroughs of New York City. The event is based on last year's Wikipedia Takes Manhattan, and has evolved to include StreetsWiki this year as well. LAST YEAR'S EVENT
WINNINGS? Prizes include a dinner for three with Wikipedia creator Jimmy Wales at Pure Food & Wine, gift certificates to Bicycle Habitiat and the LimeWire Store, and more! WHEN The hunt will take place Saturday, September 27th from 1:00pm to 6:30pm, followed by prizes and celebration. WHO All Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians are invited to participate in team of up to three (no special knowledge is required at all, just a digital camera and a love of the city). Bring a friend (or two)! REGISTER The proper place to register your team is here. It's also perfectly possible to register on the day of when you get there, but it will be slightly easier for us if you register beforehand. WHERE Participants can begin the hunt from either of two locations: one at Columbia University (at the sundial on college walk) and one at The Open Planning Project's West Village office. Everyone will end at The Open Planning Project:
FOR UPDATES Check out:
This will have a posting if the event is delayed due to weather or other exigency. Thanks, You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list. Wikis Take Manhattan rescheduled for October 4Wikis Take Manhattan has been rescheduled for next Saturday, October 4, due to the rain predicted for this weekend.. I hope you can make it to the new time, and bring a friend (or two)!--Pharos (talk) 23:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC) Main Page RedesignHey futurebird, I've updated my Main Page Redesign proposal substantially, and you had some really great points last time you commented - hopefully you'll see the effects of your suggestions. It would be great if you could comment on the new proposal, I'm really proud of how it's shaping up. Many thanks -- PretzelsTalk! 08:42, 7 October 2008 (UTC) Straw pollThe Main Page Redesign proposal is currently conducting a straw poll in selecting five proposals before an RFC in which it will be against the current main page. You're input would be appreciated. ChyranandChloe (talk) 04:13, 24 October 2008 (UTC) NYC Meetup: You are invited!
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, finalize and approve bylaws, interact with representatives from the Software Freedom Law Center, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the June meeting's minutes and the September meeting's minutes). We'll also review our recent Wikis Take Manhattan event, and make preparations for our exciting successor Wikipedia Loves Art! bonanza, being planned with the Brooklyn Museum for February. In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and (weather permitting) hold a late-night astronomy event at Columbia's telescopes. You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list. To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. Dunno if you're still around. If so, happy new year! I'm still around -- sort of. When you have a moment, please stop by the nomination for deletion (third one) for this piece and weigh in[1] -- and be sure to read the article talk page as well. Thanks much. deeceevoice (talk) 16:07, 3 January 2009 (UTC) You're invited!
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, look at our approval by the Chapters Committee, develop ideas for chapter projects at museums and libraries throughout our region, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the November meeting's minutes and the December mini-meetup's minutes). We'll make preparations for our exciting museum photography Wikipedia Loves Art! February bonanza (on Flickr, on Facebook) with Shelley from the Brooklyn Museum and Alex from the Metropolitan Museum of Art. We'll also be collecting folks to join our little Wikipedia Takes the Subway adventure which will be held the day after the meeting. In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and generally enjoy ourselves and kick back. You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list. To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. NYC Meetup: You're invited!
Join us the evenings of Friday February 6 and Saturday February 7 around Wikipedia Loves Art! museum photography events at the Metropolitan Museum of Art and the Brooklyn Museum. There will also be a special business meeting on Saturday dedicated to discussing meta:Wikimedia New York City issues with guests from the Wikimedia Foundation.
New Academic references from muse.jhu.edu/journals/human_biology/QUOTE: "The raw values in Table 6 suggest that Egyptians had the “super-Negroid” body plan described by Robins (1983).. This pattern is supported by Figure 7 (a plot of population mean femoral and tibial lengths; data from Ruff, 1994), which indicates that the Egyptians generally have tropical body plans. Of the Egyptian samples, only the Badarian and Early Dynastic period populations have shorter tibiae than predicted from femoral length. Despite these differences, all samples lie relatively clustered together as compared to the other populations." (Zakrzewski, S.R. (2003). "Variation in ancient Egyptian stature and body proportions". American Journal of Physical Anthropology 121 (3): 219-229.
"Africa contains tremendous cultural, linguistic and genetic diversity, and has more than 2,000 distinct ethnic groups and languages.. Studies using mitochondrial (mt)DNA and nuclear DNA markers consistently indicate that Africa is the most genetically diverse region of the world." (Tishkoff SA, Williams SM., Genetic analysis of African populations: human evolution and complex disease. Nature Reviews Genetics. 2002 Aug (8):611-21.)
QUOTE(s): "..sample populations available from northern Egypt from before the 1st Dynasty (Merimda, Maadi and Wadi Digla) turn out to be significantly different from sample populations from early Palestine and Byblos, suggesting a lack of common ancestors over a long time. If there was a south-north cline variation along the Nile valley it did not, from this limited evidence, continue smoothly on into southern Palestine. The limb-length proportions of males from the Egyptian sites group them with Africans rather than with Europeans." (Barry Kemp, "Ancient Egypt Anatomy of a Civilisation. (2005) Routledge. p. 52-60)
"The relative importance of ancient demography and climate in determining worldwide patterns of human within-population phenotypic diversity is still open to debate. Several morphometric traits have been argued to be under selection by climatic factors, but it is unclear whether climate affects the global decline in morphological diversity with increasing geographical distance from sub-Saharan Africa. Using a large database of male and female skull measurements, we apply an explicit framework to quantify the relative role of climate and distance from Africa. We show that distance from sub-Saharan Africa is the sole determinant of human within-population phenotypic diversity, while climate plays no role. By selecting the most informative set of traits, it was possible to explain over half of the worldwide variation in phenotypic diversity. These results mirror those previously obtained for genetic markers and show that ‘bones and molecules’ are in perfect agreement for humans." (Distance from Africa, not climate, explains within-population phenotypic diversity in humans. (2008) by: Lia Betti, François Balloux, William Amos, Tsunehiko Hanihara, Andrea Manica, Proceedings B: Biological Sciences, 2008/12/02)
"When the unlikely relationships [Indian matches] and eliminated, the Egyptian series are more similar 'overall' to other African series than to European or Near Eastern (Byzantine or Palestinian) series." (Keita 1993) "Populations and cultures now found south of the desert roamed far to the north. The culture of Upper Egypt, which became dynastic Egyptian civilization, could fairly be called a Sudanese transplant."(Egypt and Sub-Saharan Africa: Their Interaction. Encyclopedia of Precolonial Africa, by Joseph O. Vogel, AltaMira Press, Walnut Creek, California (1997), pp. 465-472 ) "Analysis of crania is the traditional approach to assessing ancient population origins, relationships, and diversity. In studies based on anatomical traits and measurements of crania, similarities have been found between Nile Valley crania from 30,000, 20,000 and 12,000 years ago and various African remains from more recent times (see Thoma 1984; Brauer and Rimbach 1990; Angel and Kelley 1986; Keita 1993). Studies of crania from southern predynastic Egypt, from the formative period (4000-3100 B.C.), show them usually to be more similar to the crania of ancient Nubians, Kushites, Saharans, or modern groups from the Horn of Africa than to those of dynastic northern Egyptians or ancient or modern southern Europeans." (S. O. Y and A.J. Boyce, "The Geographical Origins and Population Relationships of Early Ancient Egyptians", in in Egypt in Africa, Theodore Celenko (ed), Indiana University Press, 1996, pp. 20-33)
"Studies of crania from southern predynastic Egypt, from the formative period (4000-3100 B.C.), show them usually to be more similar to the crania of ancient Nubians, Kushites, Saharans, or modern groups from the Horn of Africa than to those of dynastic northern Egyptians or ancient or modern southern Europeans... There is no archaeological, linguistic, or historical data which indicate a European or Asiatic invasion of, or migration to, the Nile Valley during First Dynasty times.Previous concepts about the origin of the First Dynasty Egyptians as being somehow external to the Nile Valley or less native are not supported by archaeology... In summary, the Abydos First Dynasty royal tomb contents reveal a notable craniometric heterogeneity. Southerners predominate. (Kieta, S. (1992) Further Studies of Crania From Ancient Northern Africa: An Analysis of Crania From First Dynasty Egyptian Tombs, Using Multiple Discriminant Functions. AMERICAN JOURNAL OF PHYSICAL ANTHROPOLOGY 87:245-254)"
"....inhabitants of East Africa right on the equator have appreciably longer, narrower, and higher noses than people in the Congo at the same latitude. A former generation of anthropologists used to explain this paradox by invoking an invasion by an itinerant "white" population from the Mediterranean area, although this solution raised more problems than it solved since the East Africans in question include some of the blackest people in the world with characteristically wooly hair and a body build unique among the world's populations for its extreme linearity and height.... The relatively long noses of East Africa become explicable then when one realizes that much of the area is extremely dry for parts of the year." (C. Loring Brace, "Nonracial Approach Towards Human Diversity," cited in The Concept of Race, Edited by Ashley Montagu, The Free Press, 1980, pp. 135-136, 138) "The role of tall, linearly built populations in eastern Africa's prehistory has always been debated. Traditionally, they are viewed as late migrants into the area. But as there is better palaeoanthropological and linguistic documentation for the earlier presence of these populations than for any other group in eastern Africa, it is far more likely that they are indigenous eastern Africans. ... prehistoric linear populations show resemblances to both Upper Pleistocene eastern African fossils and present-day, non-Bantu-speaking groups in eastern Africa, with minor differences stemming from changes in overall robusticity of the dentition and skeleton. This suggests a longstanding tradition of linear populations in eastern Africa, contributing to the indigenous development of cultural and biological diversity from the Pleistocene up to the present." (L . A . SCHEPARTZ, "Who were the later Pleistocene eastern Africans?" The African Archaeological Review, 6 (1988), pp. 57- 72)
"Africa contains tremendous cultural, linguistic and genetic diversity, and has more than 2,000 distinct ethnic groups and languages.. Studies using mitochondrial (mt)DNA and nuclear DNA markers consistently indicate that Africa is the most genetically diverse region of the world." (Tishkoff SA, Williams SM., Genetic analysis of African populations: human evolution and complex disease. Nature Reviews Genetics. 2002 Aug (8):611-21.) " In other words, all non-Africans carry M168. Of course, Africans carrying the M168 mutation today are the descendants of the African subpopulation from which the migrants originated.... Thus, the Australian/Eurasian Adam (the ancestor of all non-Africans) was an East African Man." (Linda Stone, Paul F. Lurquin, L. Luca Cavalli-Sforza, Genes, Culture, and Human Evolution: A Synthesis, Wiley-Blackwell: 2006, pg 108)
QUOTE(s): "However, in some of the studies, only individuals from northern Egypt are sampled, and this could theoretically give a false impression of Egyptian variability (contrast Lucotte and Mercier 2003a with Manni et al. 2002), because this region has received more foreign settlers (and is nearer the Near East). Possible sample bias should be integrated into the discussion of results." (S.O.Y. Keita, A.J. Boyce, "Interpreting Geographical Patterns of Y Chromosome Variation1," History in Africa 32 (2005) 221-246 )
QUOTE(s): "Some have argued that various early Egyptians like the Badarians probably migrated northward from Nubia, while others see a wide-ranging movement of peoples across the breadth of the Sahara before the onset of desiccation. Whatever may be the origins of any particular people or civilization, however, it seems reasonably certain that the predynastic communities of the Nile valley were essentially indigenous in culture, drawing little inspiration from sources outside the continent during the several centuries directly preceding the onset of historical times..." (Robert July, Pre-Colonial Africa, 1975, p. 60-61)
"the peoples of the steppes and grasslands to the immediate south of Egypt domesticated cattle, as early as 9000 to 8000 B.C. They included peoples from the Afro-Asiastic linguistic group and the second major African language family, Nilo-Saharan (Wendorf, Schild, Close 1984; Wendorf, et al. 1982). Thus the earliest domestic cattle may have come to Egypt from these southern neighbors, circa 6000 B.C., and not from the Middle East.[148] Pottery, another significant advance in material cultural may also have followed this pattern, initiatied "as early as 9000 B.C. by the Nilo-Saharans and Afrasians who lived to the south of Egypt. Soon thereafter, pots spread to Egyptian sites, almost 2,000 years before the first pottery was made in the Middle East." (Christopher Ehret, "Ancient Egyptian as an African Language, Egypt as an African Culture," in Egypt in Africa, Theodore Celenko (ed), Indiana University Press, 1996, pp. 25-27)
"..the early cultures of Merimde, the Fayum, Badari Naqada I and II are essentially African and early African social customs and religious beliefs were the root and foundation of the ancient Egyptian way of life." (Source: Shaw, Thurston (1976) Changes in AfricanArchaeology in the Last Forty Years in African Studies since 1945. p. 156-68. London.)
Specific central African tool designs found at the well known Naqada, Badari and Fayum archaeological sites in Egypt (de Heinzelin 1962, Arkell and Ucko, 1956 et al). Shaw (1976) states that "the early cultures of Merimde, the Fayum, Badari Naqada I and II are essentially African and early African social customs and religious beliefs were the root and foundation of the ancient Egyptian way of life." Pottery evidence first seen in the Saharan Highlands then spreading to the Nile Valley (Flight 1973). Art motifs of Saharan rock paintings showing similarities to those in pharaonic art. A number of scholars suggest that these earlier artistic styles influenced later pharaonic art via Saharans leaving drier areas and moving into the Nile Valley taking their art styles with them (Mori 1964, Blanc 1964, et al) Earlier pioneering mummification outside Egypt. The oldest mummy in Africa is of a black Saharan child (Donadoni 1964, Blanc 1964) Frankfort (1956) suggests that it is thus possible to understand the pharaonic worldview by reference to the religious beliefs of these earlier African precursors. Attempts to suggest the root of such practices are due to Caucasoid civilizers from elsewhere are thus contradicted by the data on the ground. Several cultural practices of Egypt show strong similarities to an African totemic clan base. Childe (1969, 1978), Aldred (1978) and Strouhal (1971) demonstrate linkages with several African practices such as divine kingship and the king as divine rainmaker. Physical similarities of the early Nile valley populations with that of tropical Africans. Such connections are demonstrated in the work of numerous scholars such as Thompson and Randall Mclver 1905, Falkenburger 1947, and Strouhal 1971. The distance diagrams of Mukherjee, Rao and Trevor (1955) place the ancient Badarians genetically near 'black' tribes such as the Ashanti and the Taita. See also the "Issues of lumping under Mediterranean clusters" section above for similar older analyses. Serological (blood) evidence of genetic linkages. Paoli 1972 for example found a significant resemblance between ABO frequencies of dynastic Egyptians and the black northern Haratin who are held to be the probable descendants of the original Saharans (Hiernaux, 1975). Language similarities which include several hundred roots ascribable to African elements (UNESCO 1974) Ancient Egyptian origin stories ascribing origins of the gods and their ancestors to African locations to the south and west of Egypt (Davidson 1959) Advanced state building and political unity in Nubia, including writing, administrative apparatus and insignia some 300 years before dynastic Egypt, and the long demonstrated interchange between Nubia and Egypt (Williams 1980) Newer studies (Wendorf 2001, Wilkinson 1999, et al.) confirm these older analyses. Excavations from Nabta Playa, located about 100km west of Abu Simbel for example, suggest that the Neolithic inhabitants of the region were migrants from Sub-Saharan Africa, based on cultural similarities and social complexity which is thought to be reflective of Egypt's Old Kingdom Other scholars (Wilkinson 1999) present similar material and cultural evidence- including similarities between predynastic Egypt and traditional African cattle-culture, typical of Southern Sudanese and East African pastoralists of today, and various cultural and artistic data such as iconography on rock art found in both Egypt and in the Sudan.
Source: The Origins of Afroasiatic Christopher Ehret, S. O. Y. Keita, Paul Newman;, and Peter Bellwood Science 3 December 2004: Vol. 306. no. 5702, p. 1680
"Over the last two decades, numerous contemporary (Khartoum Neolithic) sites and cemeteries have been excavated in the Central Sudan.. The most striking point to emerge is the overall similarity of early neolithic developments inhabitation, exchange, material culture and mortuary customs in the Khartoum region to those underway at the same time in the Egyptian Nile Valley, far to the north." (Wengrow, David (2003) "Landscapes of Knowledge, Idioms of Power: The African Foundations of Ancient Egyptian Civilization Reconsidered," in Ancient Egypt in Africa, David O'Connor and Andrew Reid, eds. Ancient Egypt in Africa. London: University College London Press, 2003, pp. 119-137)
"Ancient Egyptian civilization was, in ways and to an extent usually not recognized, fundamentally African. The evidence of both language and culture reveals these African roots. The origins of Egyptian ethnicity lay in the areas south of Egypt. The ancient Egyptian language belonged to the Afrasian family (also called Afroasiatic or, formerly, Hamito-Semitic). The speakers of the earliest Afrasian languages, according to recent studies, were a set of peoples whose lands between 15,000 and 13,000 B.C. stretched from Nubia in the west to far northern Somalia in the east. (Christopher Ehret (1996) "Ancient Egyptian as an African Language, Egypt as an African Culture." In Egypt in Africa Egypt in Africa, Theodore Celenko (ed), Indiana University Press)
Calvadosbrandy (talk) 10:21, 9 February 2009 (UTC) You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list. To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. You're invited!
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, sign official incorporation papers for the chapter, review recent projects like Wikipedia Loves Art and upcoming projects like Wikipedia at the Library, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the January meeting's minutes). In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and generally enjoy ourselves and kick back. You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list. To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. File:Bulbophyllum medusae.jpeg listed for deletionAn image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:Bulbophyllum medusae.jpeg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Skier Dude (talk) 06:06, 14 April 2009 (UTC) You're invited...
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, establish a membership process for the chapter, review the upcoming Wiki-Conference New York 2009 (planned for ~100 people at NYU this summer) and future projects like Wikipedia at the Library, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the March meeting's minutes). In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and generally enjoy ourselves and kick back. You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list. To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. You're invited...
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, review the recent Wiki-Conference New York, plan for the next stages of projects like Wikipedia Takes Manhattan and Wikipedia at the Library, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the May meeting's minutes). In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and generally enjoy ourselves and kick back. You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list. To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. Wikis Take Manhattan
WHAT Wikis Take Manhattan is a scavenger hunt and free content photography contest aimed at illustrating Wikipedia and StreetsWiki articles covering sites and street features in Manhattan and across the five boroughs of New York City. LAST YEAR'S EVENT
WINNINGS? The first prize winning team members will get Eye-Fi Share cards, which automatically upload photos from your camera to your computer and to sites like Flickr. And there will also be cool prizes for other top scorers. WHEN The hunt will take place Saturday, October 10th from 1:00pm to 6:30pm, followed by prizes and celebration. WHO All Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians are invited to participate in team of up to three (no special knowledge is required at all, just a digital camera and a love of the city). Bring a friend (or two)! REGISTER The proper place to register your team is here. It's also perfectly possible to register on the day of when you get there, but it will be slightly easier for us if you register beforehand. WHERE Participants can begin the hunt from either of two locations: one at Columbia University (at the sundial on college walk) and one at The Open Planning Project's fantastic new event space nestled between Chinatown and SoHo. Everyone will end at The Open Planning Project:
FOR UPDATES Please watchlist Wikipedia:Wikipedia Takes Manhattan. This will have a posting if the event is delayed due to weather or other exigency. Thanks, You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list. Articles for deletion nomination of Snyderman and Rothman (study) I have nominated Snyderman and Rothman (study), an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Snyderman and Rothman (study). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. T34CH (talk) 17:06, 19 October 2009 (UTC) NowCommons: File:Bronxhub1.jpegFile:Bronxhub1.jpeg is now available on Wikimedia Commons as Commons:File:Bronxhub1.jpeg. This is a repository of free media that can be used on all Wikimedia wikis. The image will be deleted from Wikipedia, but this doesn't mean it can't be used anymore. You can embed an image uploaded to Commons like you would an image uploaded to Wikipedia, in this case: [[File:Bronxhub1.jpeg]]. Note that this is an automated message to inform you about the move. This bot did not copy the image itself. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 22:36, 24 October 2009 (UTC) You're invited!
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, review the recent Wikipedia Takes Manhattan, plan for the next stages of projects like Wikipedia at the Library and Wikipedia Loves Landmarks, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects, for example particular problems posed by Wikipedia articles about racist and anti-semitic people and movements (see the September meeting's minutes). In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and generally enjoy ourselves and kick back. You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list.
To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. R&I mediationI thought you should know about this. I know in the past this article (and I think my contributions to the talk page) have caused you some grief but I always thought you were a well-informed and thoughtful editor with something constructive to say. Perhaps in the course of this mediation, you might have something to say that could have a positive inflkuence on the outcome. Slrubenstein | Talk 11:59, 15 November 2009 (UTC) R&IQplease weigh in here:[2]! Slrubenstein | Talk 14:55, 8 December 2009 (UTC) African American StereotypesHi Futurebird, I was just wondering what POV you saw in the sentence. Also, the reference cited is an academic paper describing the higher crime rate among African Americans and then it presents a novel reason for the cause of this. You stated that the source did not support the sentence, but the source states"While African Americans are most likely the victims of violent acts, they are also the most likely to be the perpetrators of violence. Looking at the Bureau of Justice Statistics (Fox 2004) homicide data, African Americans are seven times more likely than whites to commit a homicide. Also, most homicides are committed against someone of the same race as the perpetrator (Fox 2004). So, African Americans are the most likely to commit homicide, and they are most likely to perpetrate such an act against another African American. We can therefore understand the huge risk that African Americans, especially young males, face in terms of experiencing such violent victimization. Many explanations have been offered for the higher rates of crime and violent victimization among African Americans." PhaserNine (talk) 16:39, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
. ~~ Abortion in the African American communityI think there should maybe be a specialized article about abortion in the African American community. Many scientific surveys have reported that African American women have an unusual amount of abortions, one of the highest in the United States and indeed of the entire world. It would therefore be appropriate to have an entry which would explain this phenomenon. [3][4] ADM (talk) 05:47, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia Day NYC You are invited to celebrate Wikipedia Day and the 9th anniversary (!) of the founding of the site at Wikipedia Day NYC on Sunday January 24, 2010 at New York University; sign up for Wikipedia Day NYC here. Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends! Conducting research on WikiProjectsWe are professors at Carnegie Mellon University conducting research on how online groups operate, with a strong history of research on Wikipedia. We would like to discuss collaborating with you with the goals of both improving integration of new members into your WikiProject as well as advancing the understanding of the science behind online groups. Our recent research has shown that joining a WikiProject boosts editors' contributions to the project substantially, and that specific kinds of interactions between existing project members and newcomers encourage newcomers to contribute more and longer. We are now working on translating these findings into interventions that will increase the vitality of WikiProjects, helping them attract, motivate, and retain members who are knowledgeable and able to contribute to the project. We have identified your project (African diaspora) as an initial candidate that we would love to work with moving forward based on your participants and the amount of assessment work your project needs accomplished. Please feel free to contact me (Prof. Robert Kraut robert.kraut@cmu.edu) with any questions and to find out more. Information about our research can be found at http://community.hciresearch.org/content/improving-socialization-newcomers-wikiprojects. If you are interested in this collaboration please contact Rosta Farzan at rfarzan@cs.cmu.edu or leave a note at Rosta Farzan's talk page at (talk) Thank you, (Rosta Farzan (talk) 09:40, 6 January 2010 (EST) NYC Wikipedia Meetup Sunday, March 21
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, review the recent Wikipedia Day NYC, plan for the next stages of projects like Wikipedia at the Library and Lights Camera Wiki, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects, for example User:ScienceApologist will present on "climate change, alternative medicine, UFOs and Transcendental Meditation" (see the November meeting's minutes). In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and generally enjoy ourselves and kick back. And if the weather is good, we'll have a star party with the telescopes on the roof of Pupin Hall! You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list. To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. GA reassessment of African American cultureI have conducted a reassessment of the above article following its listing at Wikipedia:Good articles/Cleanup listing#Articles with 4 cleanup categories assigned. You are being notified as you have made a number of contributions to the article. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:African American culture/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 13:09, 21 March 2010 (UTC) NYC Wikipedia Meetup Saturday, May 22
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, review the recent Wikimedia Chapters Meeting 2010, plan for the next stages of projects like Wiki-Conference NYC and Wikipedia Cultural Embassy, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the March meeting's minutes). In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and generally enjoy ourselves and kick back. You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list. To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. WikiProject Feminism
Wiki-Conference NYC (2nd annual)Our 2nd annual Wiki-Conference NYC has been confirmed for the weekend of August 28-29 at New York University. There's still plenty of time to join a panel, or to propose a lightning talk or an open space session. Register for the Wiki-Conference here. And sign up here for on-wiki notification. All are invited!
Articles for deletion nomination of Snyderman and Rothman (study)I have nominated Snyderman and Rothman (study), an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Snyderman and Rothman (study) (2nd nomination). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 00:50, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Bronx/The BronxBecause you participated in a previous discussion on the subject, I'm letting you know that a discussion has started about opneing a Request for Comments concerning "Bronx" versus "The Bronx" as the article title. You can find it here Beyond My Ken (talk) 09:24, 13 September 2010 (UTC) Thanks!Since as you say we have not always agreed, I know that you are not being sarcastic (because my first reaction was, "boy is yours a minority opinion" - at least among those who have expressed an opinion!!) But I have always valued your contributions to Wikipedia, in every form. So I am immensely flattered and honored by your very kind (and encouraging) words. If I play even the tiniest part in somehow keeping you at Wikipedia, well, that is real gratification. Slrubenstein | Talk 14:09, 19 September 2010 (UTC) Wikipedia NYC Meetup Sat Oct 16
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, review the recent Wiki-Conference NYC 2010, plan for the next stages of projects like Wikipedia Ambassador Program and Wikipedia Academy, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the May meeting's minutes). In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and generally enjoy ourselves and kick back. You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list. To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list.
would love your collaborationhttp://www.afropedea.com http://www.afropedea.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.186.48.62 (talk) 02:47, 13 October 2010 (UTC) Speedy deletion nomination of Deborah Lippman
A tag has been placed on Deborah Lippman requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding Nomination of Deborah Lippmann for deletion A discussion has begun about whether the article Deborah Lippmann, which you created or to which you contributed, should be deleted. While contributions are welcome, an article may be deleted if it is inconsistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines for inclusion, explained in the deletion policy. The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deborah Lippmann until a consensus is reached, and you are welcome to contribute to the discussion. You may edit the article during the discussion, including to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. ttonyb (talk) 16:24, 16 November 2010 (UTC) NYC Meetup: Saturday, December 4 Our next Wikipedia NYC Meetup is this weekend on Saturday Dec 4 at Brooklyn Museum during their awesome First Saturdays program, starting at 5 PM. A particular highlight for the wiki crowd will be 'Seductive Subversion: Women Pop Artists, 1958–1968', and the accompanying "WikiPop" project, with specially-created Wikipedia articles on the artists displayed on iPads in the gallery. This will be a museum touring and partying meetup, so no excuses about being a shy newbie this time. Bring a friend too! You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list.
To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. Pittsburgh event for Wikipedia's tenth anniversaryHi! Since you have a connection to Pittsburgh, I wanted to invite you to the Wikipedia Tenth Anniversary celebrations we're having in Pittsburgh on Saturday, January 15. During the daytime, we're going to be having a photo contribution drive where anyone can bring in their digital photos or prints and Wikipedians will teach people how to upload them and add them to articles, and maybe introduction to Wikipedia workshops as well. Then in the evening, we'll have fun at the Carson City Saloon. There will be free Wikipedia t-shirts and other goodies, as well. See the Pittsburgh meetup page for more details. I hope to see you there!--ragesoss (talk) 15:49, 1 January 2011 (UTC) Speedy deletion nomination of File:Get down dance.jpgA tag has been placed on File:Get down dance.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the image is an unused redundant copy (all pixels the same or scaled down) of an image in the same file format, which is on Wikipedia (not on Commons), and all inward links have been updated. If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion," which appears inside of the speedy deletion ( You're invited to the New York Wiknic! This message is being sent to inform you of a Wikipedia picnic that is being held in your area next Saturday, June 25. From 1 to 8 PM or any time in between, join your fellow volunteers for a get together at Norman's Landscape (directions) in Manhattan's Central Park. Take along your friends (newbies permitted), your family and other free culture enthusiasts! You may also want to pack a blanket, some water or perhaps even a frisbee. If you can, share what you're bringing at the discussion page. Also, please remember that this is the picnic that anyone can edit so bring enough food to share! To subscribe to future events, follow the mailing list or add your username to the invitation list. BrownBot (talk) 19:06, 19 June 2011 (UTC) Teaching with Wikipedia Workshop at CMU (Aug 15)Since you are one of the editors in the Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: Carnegie Mellon University, I'd like to invite you to the Teaching with Wikipedia Workshop that will take place at CMU on Aug 15 (this workshop is open to general public, and is a joint imitative of CMU and Pitt). There will be another workshop held at Pitt in the Fall as well. It will cover how to include Wikipedia in one's course (WP:SUP) and also how to become a Wikipedia:Campus Ambassadors. Pennsylvania has currently only one ambassador (myself) and it would be great if we could recruit at least several more. Ambassadors help course instructors, showing them how Wikipedia works, and interact with students. Many current ambassadors come from the body of students, faculty and university staff; it is a fun adventure, and adds to one resume/CV, to boot :) If it sounds interesting, feel free to ask me any questions, or to come to the workshop.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:14, 9 August 2011 (UTC) Come hang out with us!Hi! I just wanted to let you know that we have created an IRC channel for "countering systemic bias one new editor at a time", aka closing the gender gap! Come hang out at #wikimedia-gendergap. I hope you'll join us! (And if you need any IRC help, just let me know!) See you there! SarahStierch (talk) 00:15, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
You've got mail! It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. Wikipedia:The Musical in NYC Oct 22 You are invited to Wikipedia:The Musical in NYC, an editathon, Wikipedia meet-up and lectures that will be held on Saturday, October 22, 2011, at the New York Public Library for the Performing Arts (at Lincoln Center), as part of the Wikipedia Loves Libraries events being held across the USA. All are welcome, sign up on the wiki and here!--Pharos (talk) 04:19, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
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Brown people AfDHello, I saw that you voted on the deletion of the article Brown people / Brown race back in January 2007 here. As you probably know the result of the voting was a slight keep, so the article is still there. I found the article recently and considered it unacceptable, so I nominated it for deletion again. Could you please visit the article or deletion page and cast your vote? I would really appreciate it. Thank you. FonsScientiae (talk) 14:09, 8 July 2012 (UTC) The Olive Branch: A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1)Welcome to the first edition of The Olive Branch. This will be a place to semi-regularly update editors active in dispute resolution (DR) about some of the most important issues, advances, and challenges in the area. You were delivered this update because you are active in DR, but if you would prefer not to receive any future mailing, just add your name to this page.  In this issue:
--The Olive Branch 19:04, 4 September 2012 (UTC) Wikipedia Goes to the Movies in NYC this Saturday Dec 1 You are invited to Wikipedia Goes to the Movies in NYC, an editathon, Wikipedia meet-up and workshops focused on film and the performing arts that will be held on Saturday, December 1, 2012, at the New York Public Library for the Performing Arts (at Lincoln Center), as part of the Wikipedia Loves Libraries events being held across the USA. All are welcome, sign up on the wiki and at meetup.com!--Pharos (talk) 07:11, 30 November 2012 (UTC) Wikipedia Day Celebration and Mini-Conference in NYC Saturday Feb 23 You are invited to celebrate Wikipedia Day and the 12th anniversary (!) of the founding of the site at Wikipedia Day NYC on Saturday February 23, 2013 at New York University; sign up for Wikipedia Day NYC here, or at bit.ly/wikidaynyu. Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience!--Pharos (talk) 02:10, 2 January 2013 (UTC) Wikipedia Meetup NYC this Sunday April 14Hi Futurebird! You're invited to our next meeting for Wikipedia Meetup NYC on Sunday April 14 -this weekend- at Symposium Greek Restaurant @ 544 W 113th St (in the back room), on the Upper West Side in the Columbia University area. Please sign up, and add your ideas to the agenda for Sunday. Thanks! Delivered on behalf of User:Pharos, 17:46, 10 April 2013 (UTC) Love history & culture? Get involved in WikiProject World Digital Library!
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(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.) Seeking third opinion helpI want your help about the dispute of the article of a indian childrens channel Chutti TV as you are third opinion member.The user named User:Davey2010 annoying me by reverting my edits of article Chutti TV on which I am working for five years and adding true content to page, to the version he wanted and also blocked my previous account User:Gowtham avg indefinitely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spike Russell (talk • contribs) 10:37, 17 May 2015 (UTC) Its regarding the article Chutti TV.I have constantly updating the article for five years in the name of User:Gowtham avg which User:Davey2010 blocked permanently in the month of january 2015.But thats not the problem.Its regarding the article Chutti TV on which he is constantly reverting my edits to the version he wanted.Watch edit history of Chutti TV and you will understand everything.And please help me.Thank you. |
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