User talk:Fred J
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Swedish heraldryFred J, thank you so much for your contributions to WP, such as your contributions to Swedish heraldry! I am working on expanding the article a bit, and I would greatly appreciate your help with finding appropriate sources for inline citations. If you can take a look at the article and add references for anything that sticks out to you, it would be a tremendous help. Tack så mycket! Wilhelm meis (talk) 00:41, 28 June 2008 (UTC) Image:Sundsvall.jpgI have tagged Image:Sundsvall.jpg as {{orphaned fairuse}}. In order for the image to be kept at Wikipedia, it must be included in at least one article. If this image is being used as a link target instead of displayed inline, please add {{not orphan}} to the image description page to prevent it being accidentally marked as orphaned again. Lokal_Profil 16:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC) No worries. Wilhelm meis (talk) 00:01, 10 July 2008 (UTC) Orphaned non-free media (Image:Grästorp_City_Arms.png)Thanks for uploading Image:Grästorp_City_Arms.png. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media). If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Lokal_Profil 23:12, 31 July 2008 (UTC) Image:Lidköping_symbol.pngI have tagged Image:Lidköping_symbol.png as {{orphaned fairuse}}. In order for the image to be kept at Wikipedia, it must be included in at least one article. If this image is being used as a link target instead of displayed inline, please add {{not orphan}} to the image description page to prevent it being accidentally marked as orphaned again. Lokal_Profil 23:28, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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Lars Fredrik NilsonThanks for you´r help! Now it is much better and I will try to find a little bit more about his work!--Stone (talk) 05:03, 25 August 2008 (UTC) As part of the WP:GA listing process, I have reviwed Raoul Wallenberg though I have also asked for a second opinion on if the article is correctly using WP:Summary Style and WP:Embedded Lists. However, there are some citation issues that still need to be fixed regardless of the outcome of the 2nd opinion, and some queries about entries in the honors/memorials section. Million_Moments (talk) 19:48, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi. You may be interested in joining the new WP:Films task force which includes Finnish, Swedish, Norwegian, Icelandic and Danish film!! The Bald One White cat 17:47, 23 September 2008 (UTC) Hello, Fred J. I have listed the article as a GA since it satisfies Good article criteria. But however for a future FA status, this won't be enough. You'll have to add and expand more. Also a good copyeditor needs to copyedit this article. Anyway, good work. Hope to see this article as a featured article someday. Thanks, Kensplanet (talk) 07:26, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi Fred, I just noticed the last two changes about Swedenborg are vandelism. The word "gay" was added in two places, and I am unable to UNDO this for some reason. Can you UNDO these? Thanks in advance for your help. Stephen —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sburleigh (talk • contribs) 03:41, 13 November 2008 (UTC) Hi Fred, OK I see that the person who added "gay" then immediately removed the word. So all is well with the Swedenborg article. Sorry for the confusion. Stephen Sburleigh Sburleigh (talk —Preceding undated comment was added at 13:44, 20 November 2008 (UTC). Hi, due to a software problem the following image which you uploaded was lost on Wikimedia Commons: I reset the image to a previous version. If you still have this file on your hard disk or if you can recover it from other sources please upload it again. If this image was transferred from a local Wikipedia to Wikimedia Commons it can be even recovered by an admin on the local Wikipedia. Best regards, -- Ukko.de (talk) 14:42, 17 November 2008 (UTC) WP:FILMS QuestionnaireAs a member of WikiProject Films, you are invited to take part in the project's first questionnaire. It is intended to gauge your participation and views on the project. At the conclusion of the questionnaire, the project's coordinators will use the gathered feedback to find new ways to improve the project and reach out to potential members. The results of the questionnaire will be published in next month's newsletter. If you know of any editors who have edited film articles in the past, please invite them to take part in the questionnaire. Please stop by and take a few minutes to answer the questions so that we can continue to improve our project. Happy editing! New image projectHi. This little form letter is just a courtesy notice to let you know that a proposal to merge the projects Wikipedia:WikiProject Free images, Wikipedia:WikiProject Fair use, Wikipedia:WikiProject Moving free images to Wikimedia Commons and Wikipedia:WikiProject Illustration into the newly formed Wikipedia:WikiProject Images and Media has met with general support at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Files. Since you're on the rosters of membership in at least one of those projects, I thought you might be interested. Conversation about redirecting those projects is located here. Please participate in that discussion if you have any interest, and if you still have interest in achieving the goals of the original project, we'd love to have you join in. If you aren't interested in either the conversation or the project, please pardon the interruption. :) Thanks. Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:01, 23 April 2009 (UTC) GA Sweeps invitationHello, I hope you are doing well. I am sending you this message since you are a member of the GA WikiProject. I would like to invite you to consider helping with the GA sweeps process. Sweeps helps to ensure that the oldest GAs still meet the criteria, and improve the quality of GAs overall. Unfortunately, last month only two articles were reviewed. This is definitely a low point after our peak at the beginning of the process when 163 articles were reviewed in September 2007. After nearly two years, the running total has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A new worklist has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. All exempt and previously reviewed articles have already been removed from the list. Instead of reviewing by topic, you can consider picking and choosing whichever articles interest you. 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Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 08:13, 8 May 2009 (UTC) Swedish heraldry sourceHello again! I am looking for a source on Swedish heraldry, and I'm not quite sure where to turn. I have found quite a few mentions in en.WP and sv.WP articles of a decision by the Privy Council in 1884 to grant Swedish provinces the rank of Duchy and the right to display the ducal coronet over the landskap arms. I see that at least some of these mentions were contributed by User:Mic, who seems to be long gone. I hope you have better access to sources than I do (since I am now in Japan) and the free time to look into it, or perhaps you know someone who can help. Any other contributions you can make to the article are always appreciated as well. Thank you! Wilhelm_meis (talk) 06:12, 18 May 2009 (UTC) GA Reassessment of Emanuel SwedenborgI have done the GA Reassessment of Emanuel Swedenborg as part of the GA Sweeps project. I have found the article does not meet current GA Criteria. As such I have placed the article on hold pending work that needs to be done to bring it up to current standards. My review is here. I am notifying you as the primary editor of the possibility that the article will be delisted if work is not done in the next week. Please contact me on my talk page if you have any questions. H1nkles (talk) 16:04, 5 June 2009 (UTC) GA reassessment of Swedish literatureThis article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force in an effort to ensure all listed Good articles continue to meet the Good article criteria. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed, listed at Talk:Swedish literature/GA1. I will check back in seven days. If these issues are addressed, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted (such a decision may be challenged through WP:GAR). If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAN. Feel free to drop a message on my talk page if you have any questions, and many thanks for all the hard work that has gone into this article thus far. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:25, 28 July 2009 (UTC) Karl Knutsson (Bonde)To demonstrate the validity of my claim that Charles VIII is better known, even in English-language sources, as Karl Knutsson (Bonde), please note the search results listed at Talk:Charles VIII of Sweden#Correct Name. Sources know him as Karl Knutsson over Charles at about a 6:1 ratio. Also, please feel free to explore the quality of search results, such as The Cambridge history of Scandinavia (p. 733) or The Catholic encyclopedia (p. 478). Encyclopedia and other reliable sources are split, and many acknowledge both names (as should we), but "Charles VIII" seems to mostly be a relatively recent trend, and Karl Knutsson (Bonde) avoids the problem of the conflicting ordinals. Wilhelm Meis (Quatsch!) 09:49, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Hello! I am currently working on the "Swedish Project" and "Award and Prizes"'s article Nobel Prize. Since it is a top importance article and not even GA class I am trying to make it a GA article and perhaps further after that. However, I'm in a state now where I could use some help. I need a new pair (several pairs in fact) of eyes to look at the article and the talk page for improving prose, debation of different things and some sourcing. Do you got any possibility to help out? BR --Esuzu 12:08, 16 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Esuzu (talk • contribs)
Unreferenced BLPsHello Fred J! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 3 of the articles that you created are tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current 20 article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the {{unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the list:
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