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Mayor of Alfei Menashe

Hi Flix11,

I noticed that you recently reverted this edit. The anonymous editor is correct, there is a new mayor (head of council). This makes complete sense, given the 2018 Israeli municipal elections. Just giving you a heads up since another anon (maybe the same one?) made the edit again. If you are unsure about such edits on the topic of Israel, please feel free to ask at WT:ISRAEL.

—Ynhockey ^(Talk) 10:26, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

January 2019

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use the sandbox for that. If the page is protected after you request, please DO NOT remove it. Instead, an admin will mark it as done and bot will archive it Hhkohh (talk) 12:48, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Noted. Thanks for giving feedback. – Flix11 (talk) 12:49, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Linking countries

Hi there. Quick heads-up: I believe links to countries like here is considered WP:Overlinking. There does not seem to be a "contextually important reason to link" the countries where to international goals were scored. Regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 20:51, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Estonia national football team results‎

I checked the video, the one who scored Qatars second goal was player no. 3 Abdelkarim Hassan. Soccerway has messed things up! Klõps (talk) 20:26, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Please update after penalties

Due to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 117#Live updates with penalty shoot-outs, please update all stats after penalties, not just AET. Enjoy editing. Hhkohh (talk) 13:51, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for helping fix up the current edit war going on. 7_qz (ゆっくりしていってね!) 14:28, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

@7 qz: No problem. Both shall be blocked for a while. BTW, why didn't they be reported to WP:ANEW instead? – Flix11 (talk) 14:48, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) One was reported to WP:UAA and I gave edit warring warning on their talk page Hhkohh (talk) 14:50, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Block is not for punishment, but for preventing Hhkohh (talk) 14:52, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

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“Far-right supporter”

Comment not appreciated. What I'm doing is countering a personal bias for Jokowi and trying to deliver WP:N. Please refrain from doing these things in the future. Juxlos (talk) 12:41, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

@Juxlos: Okay then. I am sorry. – Flix11 (talk) 14:13, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

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Manchester United

In the future, please be more careful with your edits. You added two games each to Pogba and Young's totals, failed to update the starts number for Phil Jones, and altered the initial access dates of the citations, violating WP:cite. I've chosen to revert all edits made today (including my own) to update the statistics from scratch in order to ensure they're done correctly. MAINEiac4434 (talk) 00:37, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

I am no longer asking. Any further edits to the timeline of Wikipedia's original access to citations or incorrect statistics will be construed as vandalism; the PSG match has already been included. You are the one adding two matches to players' statistics. MAINEiac4434 (talk) 01:18, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

@MAINEiac4434: If it is, then why Rashford and Martial each had 1 sub cap less, while they started the PSG match? Why did Young had 1 starting cap less in your edit (172) than even in the PSG-less source (173)? Before you ask, see on "Opponents Details". There is no "Paris Saint-Germain" there. Please check first before arguing. – Flix11 (talk) 01:22, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

@Flix11: Yes, I've been known to make a mistake or two, and it's good to double check. What isn't good, however, is altering the record for when citations are first put on a page. That is my primary issue with your edits. I'm also hesitant to add matches before official websites have been updated; it could be considered original research. Though you and I both know that Mata and Pogba and De Gea all played in the PSG match, the statistics websites have not yet been updated to include that, leading to a discrepancy between the page and the cited source. MAINEiac4434 (talk) 01:42, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

What are you doing?

If an admin doesn't leave a tag when blocking someone, there's a near certain chance that it wasn't an accident. And messages like these are not helpful. Natureium (talk) 03:15, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Alright. Just want to inform the user. Won't do it again. – Flix11 (talk) 03:16, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

If you want to leave warnings for vandalism, there are standard twinkle messages that are less angry sounding. Natureium (talk) 03:20, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

The standard one says: "may be blocked", so there is a chance the vandal will not be blocked. I changed and uppercased to emphasize that the vandal had no more chance after vandalizing again. I might lowercase those uppercase. – Flix11 (talk) 03:23, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Again, start with a level 1 warning. Robby.is.on (talk) 21:41, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Really?

You just blindly accused me of "vandalizing" a page about the UK political parties, that I just only moving the Scottish Nationalist Party up based on current facts? But you instead threaten to remove my edit rights, despite I literally moving the one political party one from the other, by looking at my contribution's page??? 2600:1700:8D0:12F0:49BD:1327:C176:8984 (talk) 03:36, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Say it to the one reported you here – Flix11 (talk) 03:52, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Alright since a bot reported you then what? I will erase my comment. – Flix11 (talk) 03:53, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Ok, that's fine then. And you can also fix my IP address filing here. 2600:1700:8D0:12F0:49BD:1327:C176:8984 (talk) 03:57, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

March 2019

Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit that you made to User_talk:2A00:23C5:7C9D:6200:905A:BC54:992:DAA5 has been reverted or removed because it was a misuse of a warning or blocking template. Please use the user warnings sandbox for any tests you may want to do, or take a look at our introduction page to learn more about contributing to the encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Do not give an IP a level 4 warning for a single inappropriate edit. If that edit was incorrect all it warranted was a level 1 warning. Meters (talk) 21:36, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Please refrain from abusing warning or blocking templates, as you did to User talk:24.191.211.210. Doing so is a violation of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Please use the user warnings sandbox for any tests you may want to do, or take a look at our introduction page to learn more about contributing to the encyclopedia. What are you doing? An IP adds a line feed (for their first edit in more than 3 months) and you jump to a level 4 vandalism warning? Meters (talk) 21:41, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

You have been warned about this before, and you continue to do it. Not only are you giving inappropriate level 4 warnings to IPs with no previous history, but you are using a customized warning to make it sound even more dire. I see multiple instances of this today alone. Stop doing this. No IP should get a level 4 warning for minor vandalism, particularly when it is their first edit, or their first edit in months, or for an edit that happened months ago. It's even worse when you do it for an edit that is not even vandalism. If I see any more of these inappropriate warnings you will be the one getting the level 4 warning. Meters (talk) 21:55, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Kassym-Jomart Tokayev

Hi. He have left his office of Senate president and in official website, he is called President, not acting president or senate president acting as president. He will end the previous presidential term like US VP. --Panam2014 (talk) 14:40, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

@Panam2014: Please give reliable source(s) to support this. – Flix11 (talk) 14:42, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

See official website. And you could wait to see the first presidential decret. --Panam2014 (talk) 14:48, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Shamsunnahar Jr.

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Re: 2015-16 third kit

In fact, if you look at this page (under both the Change and Third tabs), you'll see that the black shirt was worn seven times during the season; three times with white socks and four times with black socks. But considering that website only records the frequency with which each combination was worn, neither of us should really be citing it when another more official source is available. – PeeJay 10:21, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Scott McTominay

Thank you, next time I will wait! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sireuan18 (talk • contribs) 21:52, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

--Sireuan18 (talk) 18:10, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

April 2019

I noticed that a message you recently left to Mulaneys may have been unduly harsh. Please remember not to bite the newcomers. If you see others making a common mistake, consider politely pointing out what they did wrong and showing them how to correct it. It takes more time, but it helps us retain new editors. Thank you. TheWinRatHere! 16:40, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

If this happens again, I'll take it upon myself to report you at AN/I, Flix11. Cut it out. Robby.is.on (talk) 22:00, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

As the user is now blocked for apparent vandalism, did I get exonerated? – Flix11 (talk) 05:52, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

No. It's a matter of principle: Don't bite the newcomers. Robby.is.on (talk) 06:15, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

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all-time NBA scoring list - Response

I honestly have no clue what you're talking about. Someone else edited the page to get rid of things and replace them with names like Justin Bieber or some troll name, and I changed it back. I just edited the page so it would change back. I always make sure to wait until after a game (like it says to) before editing the page. I hope that we can sort out this confusion.--Egfdagger (talk) 20:30, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

2019 Sri Lanka bombings

Bung, bisa nggak Anda cari & kasih koordinat Cinnamon Grand Hotel & The Tropical Inn Hotel buat gambar "Location of bombings in Colombo" pada artikel 2019 Sri Lanka bombings, kayak yang Anda lakukan buat koordinat Wonocolo pada artikel Surabaya bombings --Glorious Engine (talk) 10:22, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Message on 2018–19 Premier League

I don't understand what I did wrong on this message. I only changed this so it was the right information for the article. I think it is harsh to leave a message like that!

82.16.140.101 (talk) 16:10, 22 April 2019 (BST)

2019 Johan Cruyff Shield moved to draftspace

I have moved this article to draftspace as it is unsourced

Emperor Go-Momozono

I'm not sure why you changed the dates as they are all used in the same style for the article per MOS:DATEUNIFY. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:54, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: 2019 Johan Cruyff Shield (May 6)

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RE: May 2019

You, before adding new kits, have to see official website. The new home kit of Juventus was relieved only yesterday. So, the kit must be fixed now, specially on t-shirt. The scudetto patch is on left, over adidas logo, not in the center of the t-shirt.--87.10.100.152 (talk) 16:02, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

See it first before commenting. The socks you add are wrong, they do not have the pink lines in the middle. – Flix11 (talk) 16:52, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Now is correct. Before the scudetto patch was in the middle, but you fixed it. P.S. I'm not a vandal.--87.10.100.152 (talk) 19:48, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

AFC Cup Match Referees

At the start of the season, during December, before the Asian Cup, all the stats.the-afc.com reports for the AFC competition (AFC Cup & AFC Champions League) had the match referees mentioned in the report, though just before the commencement of the tournament, AFC hid the names, and now reveal all the names after the match has been finished. That is why till now every match referee mentioned on the pages has been on point. We entered the names during December itself.--Anbans 585 (talk) 12:24, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

But in the end there were changes, for example on April 25 vs Tai Po today, the ref listed was Shaqab of Singapore, while in the Live Report now is written Timur Faizulin. So I assume if the names are not listed in either reports, nothing should be filled in. – Flix11 (talk) 13:00, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Asking....

Are you Indonesian?--Jeromi Mikhael (talk) 15:56, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

@Jeromi Mikhael: I am. Do you? Why did you ask? – Flix11 (talk) 15:58, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Just asking. You get those sources for the map so fast...😄--Jeromi Mikhael (talk) 16:02, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Me too.--Jeromi Mikhael (talk) 16:02, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: 2019 Johan Cruyff Shield (May 26)

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May 2019

Hello, I'm Egghead06. I noticed that you recently removed content from 2019 EFL Championship play-off Final without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Please discuss before removing well sourced content and certainly don't do it with an edit summary of "fix"! Egghead06 (talk) 16:34, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

ACCESS trumps FOOTY

Since MOS:ACCESS is a project-wide effort, it applies to all individual projects. Feel free to discus it on that project's talk page. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:13, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Are you finish?

Are you finish talking in my talk page saying that I'm a vandal without reason? Are you ok or what are you doing? Please finish and discuss with Walter Golitz before undo my edits. You have to be quite with people here on Wikipedia. --82.57.44.190 (talk) 00:43, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

AN/I notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Robby.is.on (talk) 08:41, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi - as you may have seen at ANI, I've offered to take you through the CVUA course if you would like to learn more about countering vandalism and using warning templates. If you would like to do this, please indicate on the ANI thread that you would like to take up the offer, and that you agree not to place any more warnings on any user's talk page until we've been through the basics and I've suggested that you start using them. If you do that, I'll set up a training page and ping you from there; if you aren't interested, I'll leave you in peace. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 15:26, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi - just a note to make sure you're aware that I've created your page here - I think I botched my ping to you from ANI with a typo. Please read through the page, take a careful read through WP:VANDALISM and WP:TWINKLE, and ping me from there to confirm that you've got Twinkle enabled and that you're ready to proceed. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 17:07, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Flix11 - just a note to make sure you've seen the CVUA training page, and still want to proceed with the course? Let me know if you have any questions about getting started. Cheer GirthSummit _(blether) 07:35, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

@Girth Summit: I have done the reading. What is next? – Felixbs 07:41, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Adding References

How can I do that? Ozehlawrence (talk) 17:40, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

​ Follow the steps here: Wikipedia:Citing sources and use Template:Cite web – Flix11 (talk) 17:42, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi User:Ozehlawrence - I'm one of Flix11's talk page stalkers - I just wanted to add that citing sources is pretty straightforward if you use the 'cite' tool, just above the editing window - select the right option from the 'Templates' drop-down menu and fill in the relevant fields. Having said that, please note our guidelines on reliable sources, particularly user generated content - this site, which you've been adding to a few different articles, is not going to be a reliable source for anything, and should not be used as a reference or inserted as an external link in any article. Please do read through the links that Flix11 and Deli nk gave you on your own talk page, and you might consider going through the tutorial, or playing the adventure, to find out more about editing. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 19:23, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Amadou Sagna (June 17)

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Sorry

Sorry about that change....I just want to search a newer picture for Try Sutrisno. Jeromi Mikhael (talk) 16:35, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

CVUA

Hi - just checking whether you saw my last message on the CVUA page - do you want to proceed with the course? Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 13:05, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

@Girth Summit: Yes please. I just do not have many time since I am now focusing on my thesis. – Flix11 (talk) 15:17, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

OK cool, I'll put the next section on there shortly. No problem if we go slowly because of your thesis, we can proceed at whatever pace works for you, I just wanted to make sure you were still interested. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 15:26, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

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2019 Copa América

So yeah only ESPN because is "american" or "in english" is a reliable source, but both brazilian ones, just because they are brazilian (where the copa america, actually were!) are not reliable??? terra.com.br in this case in association with the sports newspaper LANCE, and globoesporte from the huge Globo group are not reliable? just because your poor espn doesn't have the information it doesn't mean other local sources are less reliable than the american ones... so is just better to leave it blank? I can find more sources, but yeah... those are just brazilian, not in english, i.e. not reliable, right? And by the way, the numbers "in brazilian" are the same than in english.Hungryspirit (talk) 03:24, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

@Hungryspirit: It is also unavailable in CONMEBOL site, see here for comparison in Argentina vs Chile. The latter has "Espectadores", while the final still does not have. – Flix11 (talk) 03:42, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Amadou Sagna (July 28)

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August 2019

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Oleksandr Zinchenko (footballer), without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:38, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

The kit you are referring to is last years kit that was worn in a friendly and does not belong to this seasons kits. There is a general rule around wikipedia to display only this seasons kits. There have been times in the past when teams decided to wear the next seasons kit in their final home match to promote the new kit and a general decision was taken to not involve those. Hence I will be removing the kit. Also please see the Wikipedia rules on WP:EDITWAR and WP:3RR. Abhisu4 (talk) 18:16, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

September 2019

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Departed players

I am open to new ideas, but just because an idea is new doesn't mean it has to be accepted. It should be pretty obvious from the fact that those players will not accrue any further appearances this season and that they are listed among the "Out" transfers below that they have left the club. It doesn't require any special mention, and just because another page on Wikipedia does it doesn't mean we have to too. – PeeJay 16:43, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

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Live update rule does not apply for goals. Really?

Hi, I have not been in WikiProject Football recently, but have we reached that consensus? Thanks :) Centaur271188 (talk) 18:45, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

@Centaur271188: You can read it in WP:LIVESCORES and the discussion on snooker. As far as I know, it only applies to scores, not goals. For football it should be after the full time whistle. For volleyball/badminton/tennis/basketball it should be only on each quarter/game/set that has/have been finished, not the overall score (eg. straight game/2 sets to nothing on badminton or 3 sets to nothing on volleyball; updates for quarter/set 1 score when the quarter/set had been ended). For me, adding goals is simply to ease updates, especially on matches with goals galore, like the Qatar we just saw, or when USA women won 13–0 vs Thailand. Ask this on WP:FOOTY to clear things, because I am no expert on WP policies. Cheers – Flix11 (talk) 19:13, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick reply, though I am not convinced very much :| Well, we had a long day already and it is quite late now, so I will discuss this thing later. Good night :) Centaur271188 (talk) 19:32, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

As far as I know, it's no live updates at all for WP:FOOTY. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 22:20, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

2019–20 Tottenham Hotspur F.C. season

Are you able to get rid of the Nike logo on the kits? Govvy (talk) 10:42, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Goalscorers inplay

Hello, can you please stop putting goalscorers in the edits and using the keys to hide them. Wait until matches are officially completed and then make the full edit. Thanks --Skyblueshaun (talk) 16:06, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

I understand where you are coming from but at this present time it hasn't been approved on a discussion, so I wouldn't do it as you are just making edit after edit. I suggest you start a discussion before carrying on just to get clarification. --Skyblueshaun (talk) 16:06, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Nigeria U20 women football team

Note: This user OmoYoruba45 (talk · contribs) has been blocked indefinitely.

If you have an edit suggestion Please post what you suggestion is on the pages' talk page and then we and other editors can discuss and have a general census on what we think. You claim to be making the page similar to that of Germany's team but you deleted the African U-20 Women's World Cup Qualifying Tournament section which is the the equivalent to UEFA Women's Under-19 Championship(which is included on the Germany u20 women page) this alone proves to me that your are not African or Nigerian and you lack the necessary knowledge to edit the page. You also deleted the flag of Nigeria on the pages name section and, the flag showing the coach is Nigerian, again this is very unnecessary and can be regarded as vandalism. You also deleted the flag of Nigeria on the pages name section and also the flag showing the coach is Nigerian, again this is very unnecessary and can be regarded as vandalism. You also deleted the write up that gave a detailed explanation on the Nigerian national u-20 Team -"Its primary role is the development of players in preparation for the senior women's national team. The team competes in a variety of competitions, including the biennial FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup and African U-20 Cup of Nations for Women , which is the top competitions for this age group." Deleting this information clearly shows that you have no good intention in editing the page. How is any of the information I mentioned not useful? Please explain you reason for your disruptive editingOmoYoruba45 (talk) 18:56, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Disruptive editing of pages of Nigeria national football teams.

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Hello, I have see you have resulted to disrupting editing the pages of the Nigerian National Football pages. I am giving you a last warning to detest from this behaviors or you will leave me and the Nigerian Wikipedia community no choice but to take proper actions in getting you banned. If you have a suggestion on how the page can be improved please post what you suggestion is on the pages talk page and then we can discuss if the suggestion is laudable or not with the other Wikipedia editors. OmoYoruba45 (talk) 19:43, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Scotland flag

Hi, I noticed you changed the Scotland flags in 1967 European Cup Winners' Cup Final to a different colour. I have had a look at the Flag of Scotland article, and it says the shade of blue to be used is not fixed, and in addition to the Wiki templates, the Scottish Government logo uses a mid blue rather than the lighter shade of centuries ago. I'm not saying what you've done is wrong, but there seems to be no need to change it, any reason why you did it (just out of curiosity)? Crowsus (talk) 10:56, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

@Crowsus: It was the flag in force then, same like you used an old name that was used in one time; e.g. Red Bull Arena (Leipzig) used the name Zentralstadion and Max-Morlock-Stadion used Frankenstadion during the 2006 World Cup. – Flix11 (talk) 13:54, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

OK, but what's your source for that colour blue being official in 1967? None of the many other articles on Scottish football from that era use that light blue flag as far as I am aware; for consistency they should really be kept the same (or all changed...) Crowsus (talk) 14:01, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Read the article, it is said that the color was only standardized in 2003, which means prior to that, including 1967, it was the light blue one. You wanna help change them all? Be my guest. I suggest to ask the editor him/herself here. He/she added it 4 years ago. – Flix11 (talk) 14:06, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

That is absolutely not what the articles says. It says (direct quote with bolding by me):

"Throughout the history of fabric production natural dyes have been used to apply a form of colour,[9] with dyes from plants, including indigo from woad, having dozens of compounds whose proportions may vary according to soil type and climate; therefore giving rise to variations in shade.[10] In the case of the Saltire, variations in shades of blue have resulted in the background of the flag ranging from sky blue to navy blue. When incorporated as part of the Union Flag during the 17th century, the dark blue applied to Union Flags destined for maritime use was possibly selected on the basis of the durability of darker dyes,[11] with this dark blue shade eventually becoming standard on Union Flags both at sea and on land. Some flag manufacturers selected the same navy blue colour trend of the Union Flag for the Saltire itself, leading to a variety of shades of blue being depicted on the flag of Scotland.[12]

These variations in shade eventually led to calls to standardise the colour of Scotland's national flag,[13] and in 2003 a committee of the Scottish Parliament met to examine a petition that the Scottish Executive adopt the Pantone 300 colour as a standard."

So while you're right that the current one is only official from 2003, there was no official colour before then. And if that is what Illegitimate Barrister claimed when they created the icon, I definitely will be taking it up with them. Crowsus (talk) 14:14, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

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User:Beauty320

Hi Flix11. Is there a reason you blanked User:Beauty320? In general you should not edit other user's page, and certainly not blank them - unless they contain obviously inappropriate content. I don't see an obvious problem with that user page. Thanks, The Mirror Cracked (talk) 14:17, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

@The Mirror Cracked: It is a blatant advertisement. It is stated in WP:NOTADVERTISING. Flix11 (talk) 15:00, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Then I suggest you tag it for speedy deletion under criteria G11, rather than blanking it. Your edit summary of fix wasn't helpful in this case: try using edit summaries that explain why you took the action. Thanks, The Mirror Cracked (talk) 15:08, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Central Provident Fund, Singapore

Flix11 is there something you do not understand about the removed material? The contributor is adding inappropriately on a govt agency site. Possibly related to the convicted person, Roy Ngerng. Not only is it inappropriate, it is an exact copy of what appears on Ngerng's page. 2401:7400:6005:2D24:92CE:8FC3:8146:AC8B (talk) 06:13, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

@2401:7400:6005:2D24:92CE:8FC3:8146:AC8B: Discuss in its talk page. Invite anyone understands. Flix11 (talk) 06:27, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

2019–20 Eredivisie

Hi, please don't use ESPN as a source for Eredivisie statistics, they are too often incorrect

ESPN Claim	Comment
Longest Winning Ajax Amsterdam 4	Incorrect, not only Ajax but PSV and AZ as well
Longest Current Winning Ajax Amsterdam 3	Imcorrect, not Ajax but only Vitesse with 3
Longest Unbeaten Feyenoord Rotterdam 6	Incorrect, PSV and Ajax with 9
Longest Current Unbeaten Ajax Amsterdam 9	Not only Ajax but PSV as well (and shows the nonsense of above statement)
Longest Losing RKC Waalwijk 6	Correct
Longest Current Losing RKC Waalwijk 6	Correct
Longest Winless Fortuna Sittard 8	Incorrect, RKC with 9
Longest Current Winless RKC Waalwijk 9	Correct (and shows the nonsense of above statement)
Aggregated Attendance 1408119	Incorrct, should be 1408446
Average Attendance 17384	Incorrect, should be 17388

--Sb008 (talk) 21:13, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

@Sb008: ESPN CAN ONLY have one per line. On attendance, which source back your claim? Please prove it with reliable source. Flix11 (talk) 02:23, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

You can add the numbers together yourself NOS. If ESPN is not able to give more than 1 team, they shouldn't report at all. Besides that they report incorrect teams and even contradict themselves. --Sb008 (talk) 03:33, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

@Sb008: I am still waiting for the source BACKING UP your claim. Flix11 (talk) 03:35, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

NOS --Sb008 (talk) 03:36, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

@Sb008: I mean which tab? First is fixtures, second is standings, and third is players' stats. Flix11 (talk) 03:39, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

@Sb008: Got it. Will count it later. Flix11 (talk) 03:40, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Already been counted (I don't do this manual, but it's generated). Others have same total, see the Dutch page Eredivisie. --Sb008 (talk) 03:47, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

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Akane Yamaguchi

Hello. Help copy edit, the article is translated from [1]. Thanks you. Xuanfgj (talk) 01:04, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Belgian First Division A

Hi Flix11, I agree with your statement on redundancy in some way, but I also feel that there is something "wrong" about putting just one manager next to each team. What if the manager took over just in the final days of the season, gives a wrong view imho. Moreover, if there really can only be one listed, then doesnt it make more sense to put there the manager at the _beginning_ of the season. Having the table with "managerial changes" follow that one would then show the evolution thereafter in a logical manner.

What about the option of integrating both tables into one?

PS: I do realize this discussion probably needs a broader audience since this structure has been used on a lot of season articles, but first I'm just curious for your thoughts first since you seem to have a strong opinion. Pelotas^talk^|^contribs 14:51, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Indonesian articles english project

Hi wherever possible we try to have english references, although not stated clearly anywhere, Indonesian references are not always that helpful this being english wikipedia JarrahTree 07:26, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

it would be appreciated if you acknowledged the comment, as you are adding more Indonesian language refs... :) JarrahTree 07:35, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

​ I would appreciate if you can find just ONE English reliable source which tells the legislative polls. Flix11 (talk) 07:53, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

hahah - lucu sekali - about - probably not, ok fair enough you use detik, but the big problem with the project (Indonesia on english wikipedia) is the amazing amount of lack of effort to find english sources by other editor - not you or I. Fair enough, your reply is valid, but we need to encourage other editors to find the english sources ... hehehe JarrahTree 08:28, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

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Reverted Edit

Why did you reverted the 7 edits Endorsements in the 2019 Indonesian presidential election? I edited the term office, some of these state officials term office were already ended, for example ministers in Working Cabinet, People's Representative Council etc Wikiketik (talk) 03:06, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

@Wikiketik: Years of office shall be accurate ON the election day (17 April 2019), as per List of Donald Trump 2016 presidential campaign endorsements (e.g. Senator Jeff Sessions, Representative Paul Ryan, and Governor Chris Christie) and List of Hillary Clinton 2016 presidential campaign political endorsements (e.g. Governor Alejandro García Padilla, Senator Al Franken, and Representative Beto O'Rourke), who were in office on election day (9 November 2016, thus listed under the "current" section) but had left their respective listed office since. I did not edit any of those names; I just followed what has been the consensus. Flix11 (talk) 04:06, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a live score service

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That is a sound comment from @Stvbastian:, and does not appear to be a case of vandalism on your Talk Page. Very similar response to one that I made, to re-emphasise that Wikipedia is not a live score service. Matilda Maniac (talk) 11:17, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

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Vandalism warnings

Please stop adding final/only warnings to editors whose only edits are apparently good-faith live updates to footballer player stats. An appropriate reaction would to be explain to them why we don't so this. You've been here long enough to know this, and, if I'm not mistaken, came close to sanctions for similarly aggressive and inappropriate actions in the past. Thank you for listening. Struway2 (talk) 16:13, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

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Please refrain from abusing warning or blocking templates. Doing so is a violation of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Please use the user warnings sandbox for any tests you may want to do, or take a look at our introduction page to learn more about contributing to the encyclopedia. Thank you. Struway2 (talk) 16:21, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

@Struway2: For the record, after your warning I gave level 1 warnings for one-timers and level 2 and 3 for those who had been warned before. Flix11 (talk) 16:22, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Issuing warnings at any level for apparently good-faith edits without going with an explanation first isn't appropriate. Trawling through page histories with a view to issuing warnings at any level for minor unconstructive edits made days before really isn't appropriate. Thank you for listening. Struway2 (talk) 16:29, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Flix11, you seem to have a history of incorrectly placing warnings on people who never did any vandalism. I can be wrong but maybe you can enlighten me why I was placed a Level 4-im warning for this? Will wait for your response. Thanks.   Sub |_HMU  16:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

@Subwaymuncher: In Special:Diff/930657616 you reverted a correct vandalism revert; the club goals on infobox only apply if scored in the league, not all competitions. At that time, Greenwood had just scored 1 league goal. The source only used on the stats table. But sorry for the warning. I was quite hesitant to even warn you in the first place but I guess I do not know you enough. Flix11 (talk) 17:02, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

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Please stop it. An "only warning" for a piece of minor vandalism is ridiculous and you know it. You need to get out of the habit, soon. Struway2 (talk) 12:15, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

@Struway2: It was deliberate actions. Go see for yourself first. Flix11 (talk) 12:19, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Of course it was deliberate: no-one's suggesting their hand slipped. But what they did was changed an attendance figure on a football match. See for yourself. That is either a test edit or minor vandalism, already corrected by someone else. I've removed your completely inappropriate immediate warning and replaced it with a level 1 warning, which is the absolute maximum required for a one-off, particularly on a dynamic IP. Struway2 (talk) 12:36, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia. Your pursuit of a Checkuser or admin (Bbb23, ST47, Mz7 & JJMC89) to agree with your accusations after they've already been considered is both disruptive and against policy. STOP IT! Cabayi (talk) 15:33, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

@Cabayi: Already stopped like a century ago, just chill. I did not even know if that light request is considered harassing. What you should know with cool head that this user is already made several completely bias pro-Muhammad Rizieq Shihab view such as in Indonesia–Saudi Arabia relations (1, 2). Rizieq's foul-mouth might not known outside Indonesia but he is known here in Indonesia to have called for non-Muslim persecutions. Flix11 (talk) 16:14, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Edit at Manchester derby

Hi Flix. I wanted to come to you regarding your revert to my change on the infobox of the Manchester derby article. While I can entirely understand your revert - and I hope you'll notice that, at this stage, I have no simply reverted it back, I wanted to ask you to further justify your decision.

While I like the idea of there being some consistency across articles, I find it hard to support the idea that just because something exists in the same format in article X, we should keep it the same in article Y. This is, to my mind, a fairly weak argument based off aesthetic concerns only, and one which fosters stagnation and discourages Wikipedia's main principle: BE BOLD. Wikipedia has always distinguished itself as being a place where new blood can come in and potentially turn things on their heads by trying something new. If you look at the massive changes which have occurred over time from the way Wikipedia's formatting used to look you can see huge changes, but these have only come about because people in the past decided to challenge what had gone before and said "we can do better than this".

I have been on Wikipedia for over 15 years now, and while I am far from the most frequent editor, I have long made a habit of challenging what had gone before and saying "this could be done differently". I fervently believe that the argument "it is done differently elsewhere" is not a particularly strong reason to revert an edit, and what's more I believe that Wikipedia's own internal guidelines support me in this assertion. Please don't get me wrong here - I don't believe there is anything inherently wrong with basing your decisions off another article, but I believe that it should only be done when you have specific reasoning to believe that the other article does it better. So I am asking you: do you have any further reasons to believe that we should copy the other articles you mentioned, or was your revert more about consistency? For my part I will give you my justification: I believe that the current layout of that part of the box is inherently recentist and neglects the wider history of this fixture. The match was not only ever played at CoMS or Old Trafford, so I don't see why this infobox should only show those two grounds. I also believe that the two column approach provides several advantages: it places the two teams on the same level, thus reducing accusations of one being promoted above the other, it reduces the potential size of the infobox if each stadium were placed on a separate line, and it provides a nice contrast which gives an indication of how many different stadia the two teams have played at in the past.

I invite you to consider and defend your revert. I do strongly believe that my change could be a positive enhancement for the article and could potentially even become a new standard in other articles if allowed to stand, but I don't wish for an edit war and therefore would like to hear your own arguments before considering my next course of action. Falastur2 ^Talk 23:37, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

@Falastur2: Sorry first, but in my understanding the stadium listed are only those currently in use, hence my reason. If we listed all the stadiums the matches had been played in, shouldn't we list Wembley Stadium as well due to 2011 FA Cup semi-final and the Shield? But I get your point. Thank you for noticing. Flix11 (talk) 01:04, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

If you can get the infobox template changed from Stadiums to Main Stadiums, then that would remove issues of ambiguity and perceived need for a exhaustive list of venues. Elsewhere in a rivalry article, a table of teams' records at each venue (current and historic, including 'neutral') would be informative and relevant. Matilda Maniac (talk) 03:14, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

I understand your viewpoint Flix, but I'm not sure I agree with it. I would be interested in seeing any discussion where this has previously taken place, if it has, as I would like to go over the arguments for and against. The issue here is that this is very much a massive case of recentism. Why are we placing undue emphasis on the current stadia when this is a historic record article? What exactly makes the current stadia more important than the past ones.

And @Matilda Maniac: - what makes the current stadia "main stadia"? Why are we promoting the current ones above the old ones for the sole virtue of being in use right now? Surely if we were assessing the main stadia the correct thing to go by would be number of derbies contested there, in which case Maine Road would be City's main stadium, not CoMS.

As for the comment about needing to include neutral grounds, I did consider that. Adding the neutral grounds is a possible too, though I would argue they are less significant as neutral grounds were never a primary "home" location, they were incidental only. Perhaps instead of relabelling the template "main stadia" we can label it "home stadia"? Falastur2 ^Talk 08:48, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Do you have any further comments? I still feel fairly strongly that we can do better here, and I still believe my edit has merit. I won't restate my edit if you have further concerns which we can discuss, but otherwise I'd like to try putting them back in. Falastur2 ^Talk 13:28, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

@Falastur2: It might be the best to be discussed at WP:FOOTY because this might as well applies to many articles e.g. Derby d'Italia (add Delle Alpi, Olimpico Torino), Arsenal F.C.–Manchester United F.C. rivalry and Arsenal F.C.–Chelsea F.C. rivalry (add Highbury, at least). Flix11 (talk) 14:51, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Apologies, Wikipedia gave me no notification that you had responded. Your suggestion is reasonable. I'll take it to WP:FOOTY, though at the same time I would like to put it on record that I still disagree with the idea that all articles are supposed to look entirely alike and that we should consider ourselves bound to follow the style other pages use. Yes, it can be aesthetically pleasing to have some similarities, but going for total parity is foolish to my mind and puts unnecessary restraints on forward thinking. Falastur2 ^Talk 17:51, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

So nine days on and there was no response at all to my suggestion. I can only interpret this as an indication that the matter is simply not considered that big of a deal and no-one has any strong opinions on it.

So where do we go from here? My belief is still that there is scope for improvements to be made to articles outside of what is simply the standard style. I have raised this in the public forum and there is no further opinion and no consensus. I would still like to make the change but I would rather not do so without reaching some kind of agreement with you first. Falastur2 ^Talk 23:44, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

I have reopened the discussion with a sentence only. Please kindly wait for responses. Flix11 (talk) 02:39, 17 January 2020 (UTC)